SE to LE backporting - Requests Taken Inside!

[SmedleyDButler]

4 hours ago, sad rabbit said:

[dint999] BDOr Winter Mountain Guardian Spirit v1.01 LE.rar[dint999] BDOr Winter Mountain Guardian Spirit v1.01 LE.rar[dint999] BDOr Winter Mountain Guardian Spirit v1.01 LE.rar[dint999] BDOr Winter Mountain Guardian Spirit v1.01 LE.rar[dint999] BDOr Winter Mountain Guardian Spirit v1.01 LE.rar[dint999] BDOr Winter Mountain Guardian Spirit v1.01 LE.rar[dint999] BDOr Winter Mountain Guardian Spirit v1.01 LE.rar[dint999] BDOr Winter Mountain Guardian Spirit v1.01 LE.rarUnavailable

i mannage 2 of these hope it work let me know

1293023866_dint999BDOrWinterMountainGuardianSpiritv1.01LE.rar 827.79 MB · 1 download Ark_GoatPackHeavy.rar 482.6 kB · 0 downloads

 

Thank you!

 

Just curious... the original outfit is 287 Mb, but the backport is 827 Mb. What causes such a huge expansion for the one outfit?

[sad rabbit]

1 hour ago, SmedleyDButler said:

 

Thank you!

 

Just curious... the original outfit is 287 Mb, but the backport is 827 Mb. What causes such a huge expansion for the one outfit?

good question i have no idea.. i dowload the original again too se if i duplicate anything

 

edit: strangely the esl "inflate"..  i believe .esl files are use only in SE soo maybe you can just delete it

Edited May 13, 2022 by sad rabbit

[roldoi1911]

13 hours ago, Harvald said:

As I told some Posts before: you have to rework the textures, too. So try this

 

[LE] Tier Harribel.7z 17.43 MB · 1 download

 

8 hours ago, sad rabbit said:

i kind of already fixed and goin to post  but..o well

Thank you! Both of you!

[Ma Ri]

On 5/11/2022 at 6:34 AM, BIGJacob said:

Would anyone be interested in converting the following modification? -> Tullius Eyes Pack v6.1

Here is the working LE version...

https://mega.nz/file/dMQVyDLL#x20xjpJC5s72gcWaJwR07y8o9fLq_yyUkNwZVv-6rsw

[BIGJacob]

5 hours ago, Ma Ri said:

Here is the working LE version...

https://mega.nz/file/dMQVyDLL#x20xjpJC5s72gcWaJwR07y8o9fLq_yyUkNwZVv-6rsw

 

Thanks. Is the version provided by you a modified v6.1 or a modified/fixed/cleaned v.6.0 LE [Alt. Link]?

[Ma Ri]

20 minutes ago, BIGJacob said:

 

Thanks. Is the version provided by you a modified v6.1 or a modified/fixed/cleaned v.6.0 LE [Alt. Link]?

I didn't port it. I think that's v6.1 as well, it was ported by Tullius author. I just forgot who did it and I got it from Tullius Channel. There's also a 9damao version but it's just the same with mine.

Edited May 14, 2022 by Ma Ri

[Harvald]

Skyrim backporting NPC Harvald's way 
(some maybe usefull hints)

 

You need  

 

Cathedral Assets Optimizer https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23316

Ordenator https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801

Paint.net https://www.getpaint.net/
NifSkope 2.0 Dev 7 https://github.com/niftools/nifskope/releases

BSA extractor https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/974

LE Construction set (optional) 

 

lot of stuff but every tool does a little step in the backporting process. After installing your tools you have to create a folder as your workspace.

 

 

 

At first you sometimes have to unpack the BSA files.  After unpacking the files you get two main folders Meshes and textures and an esp or esl in your workspace.

Lets beginn with the textures. You have to know  that Skyrim LE only can handle DDS files, that are encoded in BC1 or BC5 format. That's because Skyrim LE has no directx 11 compatibility like Skyrim SE, but only directx 9. Skyrim SE can handle BC7 as well as BC1 and BC5 encoded DDS-Files and uncompressed DDS files. Nobody is able to see the difference by looking on the picture, but ordenator knows which format Skyrim LE can handle. 

 

So I use the tool like this

 

On the lower part of the pic you see the result: one Error after the other. In this case not even one texture will work in Skyrim LE. That's not so good because it means, we have to work on them. Sometimes you get only one or two errors so check the log completely. Some modders do a wild mix of textures from different bases.

 

Now you have to open all textures causing errors in Paint.net, Rightclick on the preview in the line on the top and choose save. A window will open that looks like on the picture below. Make your decisions BC1 linear for DDS without a mask and BC5 linear for DDS with a mask (Recognizable by one or more  gray dashed line on the image) and save with ok. 

At last run ordenator again  to see if you missed a thing. Thats all. Now the textures are done and we can start with the meshes.

 

At first start CAO on the meshes in your workspace.

 

 

CAO is able to backport everything in the right way but headparts. They need aditional work. So navigate to facegendata/facegeom/ ....esp ind open the headmesh in nifskope.

 

Now you have to control every line by hand. In the lines "FemaleMouthHumanoidDefault", "FemalebrowsHuman.." and "FemaleEyesHuman..." or corresponding names for elves. We will sometimes find "packed tangent" flag enabled.

 

You have to uncheck it.

 

(the face will not look like in the pictures. It will look white and pink. It only will look like this, if you install the texture folder in your game before, like I do.)

 

On "femaleHead....", Hair" and every "Hairline" NiTriShape do the same.

 

Now we hve to add vertex colors on "femaleHead....", Hair" and every "Hairline" NiTriShape.

Do it this way: 

 

Change to "yes" and click on the line below (a Rainbow circle will appear)

now go to BSLightingShaderProperty

 

and activate Vertex colors.

 

Now you can install meshes textures and esp to LE.  If it is named esl just rename it. Some guys load it to construction set before using the esp ingame, but I found it is not necessary. Only one number is changed by this procedure and it had no negative effects.

 

So have fun 

happy backporting

 

Harvald

Edited May 14, 2022 by Harvald

[O_O]

On 5/14/2022 at 1:31 AM, sad rabbit said:

good question i have no idea.. i dowload the original again too se if i duplicate anything

 

edit: strangely the esl "inflate"..  i believe .esl files are use only in SE soo maybe you can just delete it

Thanks for your conversions.

Some silly questions from noob:
- did the .esl inflated after being converted / modified?
- is the .esp in your port a conversion of the original .esl?
Tip for all: I've noticed that mods pack better with 7zip rather than winrar, can anyone confirm?

Edited May 15, 2022 by O_O

[sad rabbit]

On 5/15/2022 at 5:45 AM, O_O said:

Thanks for your conversions.

Some silly questions from noob:
- did the .esl inflated after being converted / modified?
- is the .esp in your port a conversion of the original .esl?
Tip for all: I've noticed that mods pack better with 7zip rather than winrar, can anyone confirm?

- did the .esl inflated after being converted / modified?

yes

is the .esp in your port a conversion of the original .esl?

if you talking about the winter outfit no. there a hidden esp in a folder there

Tip for all: I've noticed that mods pack better with 7zip rather than winrar, can anyone confirm?

no idea never used 7zip

sorry for not bee much of a help

[ChingChongWong]

(Harvald's Guide Works :D)

 

Decided to Post this for anyone else who wanted it, its the Samsung Follower

Sam.rar

[サマエル]

On 5/14/2022 at 8:48 AM, Harvald said:

Skyrim backporting NPC Harvald's way 
(some maybe usefull hints)

 

You need  

 

Cathedral Assets Optimizer https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23316

Ordenator https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801

Paint.net https://www.getpaint.net/
NifSkope 2.0 Dev 7 https://github.com/niftools/nifskope/releases

BSA extractor https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/974

LE Construction set (optional) 

 

lot of stuff but every tool does a little step in the backporting process. After installing your tools you have to create a folder as your workspace.

 

 

 

At first you sometimes have to unpack the BSA files.  After unpacking the files you get two main folders Meshes and textures and an esp or esl in your workspace.

Lets beginn with the textures. You have to know  that Skyrim LE only can handle DDS files, that are encoded in BC1 or BC5 format. That's because Skyrim LE has no directx 11 compatibility like Skyrim SE, but only directx 9. Skyrim SE can handle BC7 as well as BC1 and BC5 encoded DDS-Files and uncompressed DDS files. Nobody is able to see the difference by looking on the picture, but ordenator knows which format Skyrim LE can handle. 

 

So I use the tool like this

 

On the lower part of the pic you see the result: one Error after the other. In this case not even one texture will work in Skyrim LE. That's not so good because it means, we have to work on them. Sometimes you get only one or two errors so check the log completely. Some modders do a wild mix of textures from different bases.

 

Now you have to open all textures causing errors in Paint.net, Rightclick on the preview in the line on the top and choose save. A window will open that looks like on the picture below. Make your decisions BC1 linear for DDS without a mask and BC5 linear for DDS with a mask (Recognizable by one or more  gray dashed line on the image) and save with ok. 

At last run ordenator again  to see if you missed a thing. Thats all. Now the textures are done and we can start with the meshes.

 

At first start CAO on the meshes in your workspace.

 

 

CAO is able to backport everything in the right way but headparts. They need aditional work. So navigate to facegendata/facegeom/ ....esp ind open the headmesh in nifskope.

 

Now you have to control every line by hand. In the lines "FemaleMouthHumanoidDefault", "FemalebrowsHuman.." and "FemaleEyesHuman..." or corresponding names for elves. We will sometimes find "packed tangent" flag enabled.

 

You have to uncheck it.

 

(the face will not look like in the pictures. It will look white and pink. It only will look like this, if you install the texture folder in your game before, like I do.)

 

On "femaleHead....", Hair" and every "Hairline" NiTriShape do the same.

 

Now we hve to add vertex colors on "femaleHead....", Hair" and every "Hairline" NiTriShape.

Do it this way: 

 

Change to "yes" and click on the line below (a Rainbow circle will appear)

now go to BSLightingShaderProperty

 

and activate Vertex colors.

 

Now you can install meshes textures and esp to LE.  If it is named esl just rename it. Some guys load it to construction set before using the esp ingame, but I found it is not necessary. Only one number is changed by this procedure and it had no negative effects.

 

So have fun 

happy backporting

 

Harvald

 

 

Hi, very useful tutorial, manny thanks @Harvald

 

However, I almost succeed in my 1st try but I have some problem with the eyes, the eye socket looks empty, why is that? Can you help me please?

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by サマエル

[Harvald]

25 minutes ago, サマエル said:

 

 

Hi, very useful tutorial, manny thanks @Harvald

 

However, I almost succeed in my 1st try but I have some problem with the eyes, the eye socket looks empty, why is that? Can you help me please?

 

Hi there

 

Two possible reasons:
1.) You missed a "packed tangent" flag on the eyes.
2.) one of the rare cases that the eyes also need a "Vertex color" flag.

 

Do as described for the face and hairpieces.

I didn't suggest it in general, because on many faces the eyes start to lighten in the dark, if you turn on the "Vertex colors" flag on the eyes.

[サマエル]

7 hours ago, Harvald said:

Hi there

 

Two possible reasons:
1.) You missed a "packed tangent" flag on the eyes.
2.) one of the rare cases that the eyes also need a "Vertex color" flag.

 

Do as described for the face and hairpieces.

I didn't suggest it in general, because on many faces the eyes start to lighten in the dark, if you turn on the "Vertex colors" flag on the eyes.

 

Hi, I did as you said but the eyes are still missing, can you take a look at the file and help me with this, pretty please? Snow.7z

I really wanna learn about this ❤️

 

 

 

[27X]

You probably need to put the eyes where they're originally supposed to go.

[Harvald]

On 5/21/2022 at 12:30 AM, サマエル said:

 

Hi, I did as you said but the eyes are still missing, can you take a look at the file and help me with this, pretty please? Snow.7z

I really wanna learn about this ❤️

 

I do not know what happened during your porting process, but something went wrong. I had to port the head back to Skyrim SE and then port the headmesh back to skyrim LE. The mesh is a little bigger than yours after the porting process. Now it works perfect in my Skyrim LE.

 

so take this Headmesh and try again

 

00000D64.NIF

 

Edited May 23, 2022 by Harvald

[Lyman the Lunatic]

I'd like to know, is it possible to backport script mods? Elden Ring Step Dodge mod caught my interest & I don't know how to go about with it. Link in the spoilers.
 

Spoiler

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64248/?tab=files

 

[Harvald]

39 minutes ago, Lyman the Lunatic said:

I'd like to know, is it possible to backport script mods? Elden Ring Step Dodge mod caught my interest & I don't know how to go about with it. Link in the spoilers.
 

  Hide contents

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64248/?tab=files

 

normal skripts don' need any backport, only skse using mods and that means a recreation of the skript. What your mod needs is an animation file backport. I've never done it, but there is a tutorial and a  .bat file on tesnexus https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/104459. 

[Lyman the Lunatic]

9 hours ago, Harvald said:

normal skripts don' need any backport, only skse using mods and that means a recreation of the skript. What your mod needs is an animation file backport. I've never done it, but there is a tutorial and a  .bat file on tesnexus https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/104459. 

Seems like I ran into the exact same problem with everyone else, the bat deleted everything despite correct instructions.

I got the skyrimrefrence.hko. I got the havok for x64, remove space from the file location, still doesn't work.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Lyman the Lunatic

[SmedleyDButler]

How would we go about trying to backport something like EasyNPC? Or rather, expand/alter it to work with Skyrim LE?

 

It's such a desperately-needed tool.

[roldoi1911]

There is so much good cosplay here. didn't download until i found it had bodyslide support. shame its only for SE.

[サマエル]

On 5/21/2022 at 6:49 PM, Harvald said:

 

I do not know what happened during your porting process, but something went wrong. I had to port the head back to Skyrim SE and then port the headmesh back to skyrim LE. The mesh is a little bigger than yours after the porting process. Now it works perfect in my Skyrim LE.

 

so take this Headmesh and try again

 

00000D64.NIF 2.74 MB · 1 download

 

 

Hi, I'm so sorry for the late reply, real life stuff ?

I tried with your mesh file but I got the same result, very odd. By the way I did try the revert back and backport again unsuccessfully, same result. Could the version of the application be related or something? I don't know. What's weirder is that it works with other followers mods:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/66108

 

Some backports works perfect while others don't, and it is always the same problem: no eyeballs

 

 

Anyway, thanks a lot for the effort and patience. I'm going to use the ones that works

Edited May 26, 2022 by サマエル

[Harvald]

I need anyone as a backport tester cause in my system this port works right

 

[LE]Snow UUNP.7z

 

20 hours ago, サマエル said:

I tried with your mesh file but I got the same result, very odd.

 

0n others not. I'm very sorry for that, and I need a poof.  An other user of an other port had a collision problem with an other mod and got a vanilla shaped head.

[サマエル]

4 hours ago, Harvald said:

I need anyone as a backport tester cause in my system this port works right

 

[LE]Snow UUNP.7z 15.63 MB · 4 downloads

 

 

0n others not. I'm very sorry for that, and I need a poof.  An other user of an other port had a collision problem with an other mod and got a vanilla shaped head.

 

Oh boy... I install the facegen mesh from your mod convertion in my Snow mod alredy installed and Voilà!

 

 

What am I doing wrong? Is the problem in the CAO app version that I am using (Cathedral Assets Optimizer 64 5.3.12v)? Is in the settings? I'm going crazy with this haha!

 

 

I alredy tried RESAVE MESHES TICKED /UNTICKED

 

 

 

[Harvald]

 

Thats the way she looks in my game.

 

 

1 hour ago, サマエル said:

What am I doing wrong? Is the problem in the CAO app version that I am using (Cathedral Assets Optimizer 64 5.3.12v)? Is in the settings? I'm going crazy with this haha!

 

don't tnow,  I also use the 5.1.13 Version. The settings appear to be the same.

The only thing is; I used this tool for backporting the headmesh to SSE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4089

 

perhaps that is the reason:

(Citation: A tool for mod authors to optimize NIF files between the SSE and LE format.
Fixes several issues along the way and can also scan textures for compatibility.)

 

and: I'm the godfather of Backporting ? har har har .........

 

no I have no idea

 

[BIGJacob]

Hello. Which of the following options would be closer to success?
1. Direct back-port v3.1 + BHUNP.
2. Editing this companion pack with back-ported files from v.BHUNP & / or v3.1?