Immersive Daedra Worship: Temple of Molag Bal

[shideduo]

An amazing idea ! Can't wait to see it's further development.

[Guest]

Hey random question: do you plan on ever making mods like this for other daedric princes? Like the a Hircine version could be about bestiality and rather than kidnapping brides, you'd tame beasts. Another could be Mehrunes Dagon and he'd be about S and M (since he's the prince of destruction). You could even do Meridia! like it would revolve around defiling werewolves/undead/dremora instead of human. Maybe you could even do an ironic approach for Meridia and make it so you run like a crusade against the Vigilants of Stendarr because they don't punish evil creatures the way Meridia would like! These are all just cheese-brained ideas I have, just random thoughts.

[The Man in Black]

1 hour ago, klick master said:

Hey random question: do you plan on ever making mods like this for other daedric princes? Like the a Hircine version could be about bestiality and rather than kidnapping brides, you'd tame beasts. Another could be Mehrunes Dagon and he'd be about S and M (since he's the prince of destruction). You could even do Meridia! like it would revolve around defiling werewolves/undead/dremora instead of human. Maybe you could even do an ironic approach for Meridia and make it so you run like a crusade against the Vigilants of Stendarr because they don't punish evil creatures the way Meridia would like! These are all just cheese-brained ideas I have, just random thoughts.

Unlikely. There is still so much to do for Molag Bal. It’ll probably take years to get it where I want it.

[DarkForce_256]

I absolutely love this mod. I hope you are able to continue working on it. If you have a paypal or patreon I would contribute to. This has quickly become one of my favorite sexlab mods.

[APE1333]

2020/1/26の午後11時32分に、Mads3475は次のように述べました。

こんにちは、黒の男

パトレオンはありますか？このプロジェクトをサポートする方法はありますか？
私もVRでプレイし、初めてあなたの寺院に行ったとき、
それはとても怖かったです!! 私はそれが大好きです、あなたはVRでそれを試してみる必要があります!!!

うまく動作しないstufがたくさんありますが、それを間違ってインストールしたのは私だけで
あり、問題を作成する他のmodもpaheを使用しています。

APE1333荷物の注文を確認できますか？

回答が遅すぎてすみません。あなたのリクエストに気がつきませんでした。 

これが私のロード順です。しかし、 まだいくつかの問題があります。

 敗北、私はチョークターゲット。（押して「G」）することはできません（私が代わりにこっそりツールを使用しています） と私が使用することはできません使用UI Extensのことを、いくつかの機能をイオン。（落札 常にSkyrimの CTDを）

私は 攻撃的な側だけを使っています。 私は敗北の受動的な側面を試みませんでした。 

これまでの環境でパラダイスホールが機能していると思います。私は他の人を奴隷にすることができます。Pahe Homeスイートホームのクエストをプレイできました。

ZAZアニメーションパックをインストールできる場合。そして 、MCMメニューで認識されたPaheに敗北 します。Pahe  が動作します。これはあなたを本当の モラグバルのチャンピオンにします！

私はMODの難しい面が得意ではありません。この答えがあなたの期待に沿うかどうかはわかりません。しかし、何か質問があれば、私はそれに答えようとします。

 

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[ToxinEr]

I don't know why but whenever i fuck the prisoners in the ritual. These played animation doesn't count for Molag. I have installed SExlab,Defeat,Tools,Enchantress.Everything for SSE

Sorry about my bad english.

[The Man in Black]

23 hours ago, ToxinEr said:

I don't know why but whenever i fuck the prisoners in the ritual. These played animation doesn't count for Molag. I have installed SExlab,Defeat,Tools,Enchantress.Everything for SSE

Sorry about my bad english.

1) Did you cast the spell to start the ritual?

2) If you did cast the spell, did you talk to the victim and choose the "You have been chosen for a great honor" to register them as a Bride of Molag Bal?

[QuartLove]

This is a GREAT mod and I'm really enjoying it. I just want to add my encouragement to your endeavor. I had a couple/few thoughts:

1. Separate the house and the temple into distinct areas. The sounds for the temple play while one is inside the house, and while from a meta perspective identifying the house as the Temple of Molag Bal makes sense 'hiding' it seems more pleasing for the sake of immersion. Having the house appear as Foreboding Dwelling or some such and then once the secret door is opened that being the Temple.

2. Include a book, sign, or NPC in the temple to explain how to use its various features.

2a. An existing cult, with NPC members, that one can either destroy or join

 

Anyway, again, this is some seriously awesome work. Cheers to your lore-friendly and immersive genius.

[DevilFireSmile]

Do you plan on adding the option of willing bride? I'd prefer not to always get "f***ing pervert!" from the girls, despite it being most likely true

The willing option would add more elegance to the ritual, if so desired.

[blippyp]

This sounds like a pretty neat mod, unfortunately it would rarely fit a playthru for me, but will certainly download it and give it a go some time. However, because I usually play females, I would love to see this mod expanded. With like a death alternative/alternate start type of thing. So that a female character could be forced to go thru whatever your mod has to offer (the slave's point of view) and find a way to free herself before finally being put to death (or even better - have molag bal himself come rape the character to death and turning them into a 100% legit Daughter of Coldharbour just like Serana - that would be awesome). Either way, thx for providing this, it does sound cool, can't wait to check it out some time.

[The Man in Black]

7 hours ago, blippyp said:

This sounds like a pretty neat mod, unfortunately it would rarely fit a playthru for me, but will certainly download it and give it a go some time. However, because I usually play females, I would love to see this mod expanded. With like a death alternative/alternate start type of thing. So that a female character could be forced to go thru whatever your mod has to offer (the slave's point of view) and find a way to free herself before finally being put to death (or even better - have molag bal himself come rape the character to death and turning them into a 100% legit Daughter of Coldharbour just like Serana - that would be awesome). Either way, thx for providing this, it does sound cool, can't wait to check it out some time.

If someone out there wants to make a mod that adds this functionality, I’m all for it. But it’s not my style of play, and not something I’m interested in making. Plus, I only ever play as a dominant male, so I wouldn’t even know what to do to make it fun for people who are into this kind of thing.

[Mister_Discrete]

This mod and the Namira's Goat mod are amazing ideas for a truly evil playthrough. I do have one slight criticism/idea though.

 

Have you considered moving the temple from Falkreath to The Reach? I do appreciate the effort you put into making a custom location, however there seems like there's a wonderful opportunity to integrate this into the game nearly seamlessly by editing the abandoned house in Markarth where you initially meet Molag Bal.

[The Man in Black]

12 hours ago, Mister_Discrete said:

This mod and the Namira's Goat mod are amazing ideas for a truly evil playthrough. I do have one slight criticism/idea though.

 

Have you considered moving the temple from Falkreath to The Reach? I do appreciate the effort you put into making a custom location, however there seems like there's a wonderful opportunity to integrate this into the game nearly seamlessly by editing the abandoned house in Markarth where you initially meet Molag Bal.

I’ve thought about it. I ultimately decided against it since it seemed unlikely that a sprawling ancient daedric temple underground would have gone unnoticed by the Dwemer digging around in that region. 

However, I am looking at ways to incorporate the Markarth quest. Right now, I’m trying to figure out how to use either use the vanilla courier to deliver a letter to initially invite you to the temple after you become Champion of Molag Bal or to come up with a few lines that I can splice together from Molag Bal’s dialogue to direct you there immediately after.

 

Eventually, I want to include the Markarth site in  the questline. But that’s still a long ways off, since I’m focusing on getting the cultist management system working.

[blippyp]

15 hours ago, The Man in Black said:

If someone out there wants to make a mod that adds this functionality, I’m all for it. But it’s not my style of play, and not something I’m interested in making. Plus, I only ever play as a dominant male, so I wouldn’t even know what to do to make it fun for people who are into this kind of thing.

Ya, to be honest, I already assumed that if you wanted to do that you would of done it already. Just thought I'd throw it out there is all - don't ask, you don't get eh? Who knows, maybe I'll get around to it myself some day, until then I look forward to seeing whatever you make of this, it still sounds really cool and although I didn't intend on reading thru your thread I did spend the time to do it yesterday and it sounds like playing as a female is an option already so I'm a little more curious about giving it a go - sure seems like people are liking what's being offered from this mod already as is - looking forward to future updates whatever those may be.

[Mister_Discrete]

16 hours ago, The Man in Black said:

I’ve thought about it. I ultimately decided against it since it seemed unlikely that a sprawling ancient daedric temple underground would have gone unnoticed by the Dwemer digging around in that region. 

However, I am looking at ways to incorporate the Markarth quest. Right now, I’m trying to figure out how to use either use the vanilla courier to deliver a letter to initially invite you to the temple after you become Champion of Molag Bal or to come up with a few lines that I can splice together from Molag Bal’s dialogue to direct you there immediately after.

 

Eventually, I want to include the Markarth site in  the questline. But that’s still a long ways off, since I’m focusing on getting the cultist management system working.

I understand your reasoning about the Dwemer.

 

As far as ways of contacting the player....

The courier is a nice idea. I wonder if there may be a way to spawn in a Unique Dremora with a similar script (or whatever) as the courier, and have him deliver the message? As for Molag Himself, there's a mod that implements a sort of connection between the player and the Daedric Princes.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32090?tab=description

 

Might want to dig into that and give it a look over.

[The Man in Black]

8 hours ago, Mister_Discrete said:

I understand your reasoning about the Dwemer.

 

As far as ways of contacting the player....

The courier is a nice idea. I wonder if there may be a way to spawn in a Unique Dremora with a similar script (or whatever) as the courier, and have him deliver the message? As for Molag Himself, there's a mod that implements a sort of connection between the player and the Daedric Princes.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32090?tab=description

 

Might want to dig into that and give it a look over.

Interesting. I’ll have to check it out.

 

I don’t want to use a Dremora for that. Eventually, I want to create a Dremora as a major NPC—and the person who sends you the letter—meeting you at the front gate in the cave. The Dremora will function like your steward for the cult, helping you restore the temple (which will start in a state of disrepair) and as a questgiver and tool for narrative exposition. But that’s all a long way off.

[Mister_Discrete]

8 hours ago, The Man in Black said:

 The Dremora will function like your steward for the cult, helping you restore the temple (which will start in a state of disrepair) and as a questgiver and tool for narrative exposition. But that’s all a long way off.

Much like the Stewards for Hearthfire? Especially with the Hearthfires Extended mod. Nice idea.

As far as the cult framework goes...have you looked into the mod that allows the player to start their own guild?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31516
 

If anything, it sounds like a lot of the functionality you're looking for may be partially structured in that mod. You may benefit from cracking it open and reading its entrails.

[The Man in Black]

5 hours ago, Mister_Discrete said:

Much like the Stewards for Hearthfire? Especially with the Hearthfires Extended mod. Nice idea.

As far as the cult framework goes...have you looked into the mod that allows the player to start their own guild?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31516
 

If anything, it sounds like a lot of the functionality you're looking for may be partially structured in that mod. You may benefit from cracking it open and reading its entrails.

More like Nazir/Devlin with restoring the Dawnstar Sanctuary.

 

The cult framework is more for managing activities around the temple to make it feel more alive: patrolling, guarding (and maybe torturing/raping) prisoners, serving as an audience in the arena or fighting prisoners, sandboxing in the living area. And for managing the ritual itself: standing in position, playing appropriate idles, auto-raping victims until they break. At present, there are no plans to have them engage in actions outside the temple (unless you take them with you as a normal follower).

[Sillius_Maximus]

31 minutes ago, The Man in Black said:

More like Nazir/Devlin with restoring the Dawnstar Sanctuary.

 

The cult framework is more for managing activities around the temple to make it feel more alive: patrolling, guarding (and maybe torturing/raping) prisoners, serving as an audience in the arena or fighting prisoners, sandboxing in the living area. And for managing the ritual itself: standing in position, playing appropriate idles, auto-raping victims until they break. At present, there are no plans to have them engage in actions outside the temple (unless you take them with you as a normal follower).

Ive always wondered- and itll prob show my lack of of scripting knowledge (but then ive never hid that :X)...

 

what would be the downside of use SL Triggers or Scent of sex to manage some things?    I think in scent for example, you can set up a trigger  that has a <Faction> for a source and a <Faction for a target>..  anyway even if you cant, suppose you actually could- would doing that be a good or bad thing?   Like scent

 

Source : FactionGuard

Target: FactionVictim

Location: temple room

If health  or other random condition >=  x

have sex

 

sorry if thats a bit of a Off topic ramble, just curious..  I know you would have to show people where to put the .json files of Scent/Triggers of course..

[Mister_Discrete]

51 minutes ago, The Man in Black said:

More like Nazir/Devlin with restoring the Dawnstar Sanctuary.

 

The cult framework is more for managing activities around the temple to make it feel more alive: patrolling, guarding (and maybe torturing/raping) prisoners, serving as an audience in the arena or fighting prisoners, sandboxing in the living area. And for managing the ritual itself: standing in position, playing appropriate idles, auto-raping victims until they break. At present, there are no plans to have them engage in actions outside the temple (unless you take them with you as a normal follower).

That sounds a lot like sort of what Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home kind of does with the function of having slaves train and manage each other. If nothing else, it might be something to look into as a starting point. I know nothing at all about scripting, so I'm basing my suggestions entirely off of mods I've already tested out as I build a new game in this plague infested world we're currently living in to pass the time.

[The Man in Black]

5 hours ago, Sillius_Maximus said:

Ive always wondered- and itll prob show my lack of of scripting knowledge (but then ive never hid that :X)...

 

what would be the downside of use SL Triggers or Scent of sex to manage some things?    I think in scent for example, you can set up a trigger  that has a <Faction> for a source and a <Faction for a target>..  anyway even if you cant, suppose you actually could- would doing that be a good or bad thing?   Like scent

 

Source : FactionGuard

Target: FactionVictim

Location: temple room

If health  or other random condition >=  x

have sex

 

sorry if thats a bit of a Off topic ramble, just curious..  I know you would have to show people where to put the .json files of Scent/Triggers of course..

I haven’t tried SL Triggers. Personally, I don’t use Scent of Sex because it adds a lot of script load and I already have an extreme script-heavy load order.

 

If I do implement sex with prisoners, it will be much simpler in terms of processing. I still haven’t decided whether I want to even do it outside of the ritual.

[The Man in Black]

5 hours ago, Mister_Discrete said:

That sounds a lot like sort of what Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home kind of does with the function of having slaves train and manage each other. If nothing else, it might be something to look into as a starting point. I know nothing at all about scripting, so I'm basing my suggestions entirely off of mods I've already tested out as I build a new game in this plague infested world we're currently living in to pass the time.

LOL. I feel you.
 

I already have a framework figured out and mostly coded. Right now, I’m doing the drudge work of creating all of the factions, markers, and AI packages to plug into the framework.

[Mister_Discrete]

5 hours ago, The Man in Black said:

LOL. I feel you.
 

I already have a framework figured out and mostly coded. Right now, I’m doing the drudge work of creating all of the factions, markers, and AI packages to plug into the framework.

Ahh. Well I'm pretty sure there's a saying about there being nobility in the mundane.

Good luck, and godspeed.

 

Edit:

 

I just realized that came off as flippant and dismissive. I meant to say that there's nobility in doing all the tedious stuff in order to achieve the grander goal.

[Jaye_Storm]

So I am doing my yearly play-through of Skyrim during quarantine (insert appropriate joke here.)  Of course before that I have to spend a few days preparing my mod list.  I tried your mod out the last time I played through Skyrim (around November) and was immensely excited about the possibilities this mod offers.  I am not overly familiar with Lovers Labs setup so I was unable to answer the question myself.  Have there been any changes or updates since November 2019?  The cultist system is something I was especially looking forward to.  I really hope you are still developing this mod, it is such an unique mod with so many possibilities.  

[The Man in Black]

4 hours ago, Jaye_Storm said:

So I am doing my yearly play-through of Skyrim during quarantine (insert appropriate joke here.)  Of course before that I have to spend a few days preparing my mod list.  I tried your mod out the last time I played through Skyrim (around November) and was immensely excited about the possibilities this mod offers.  I am not overly familiar with Lovers Labs setup so I was unable to answer the question myself.  Have there been any changes or updates since November 2019?  The cultist system is something I was especially looking forward to.  I really hope you are still developing this mod, it is such an unique mod with so many possibilities.  

I haven’t updated it yet. I think I have a decent script framework created to handle cultist AI package management, but I still need to implement it—creating dialogue topics and script fragments for them, creating the AI packages, placing markers for the packages to use, etc. Maybe by the end of the summer.