Troubles of Heroine

[PippinTom]

1 hour ago, jperrins66 said:

So which of the new esp's are for the SE version ?

 

It's easy - all of them.

"header 1.70" are for SE 1.5.97 while "header 1.71" are for SE 1.6.1170+

Edited August 20, 2025 by PippinTom

[Guest]

Should a girl try this mod?  Seems very popular.  I'm concerned how "real" the demeaning attitudes are when you play and would like an opinion.  If its just fun fantasy, fine.  If its sick, creepy,maniac fantasy, not so much.  I'm looking for mods to add smallish sexy things to an otherwise normal game.  Tried DD things (no thanks) so I'm still looking around.  If recommended, I read you need the voice files (of course) and maybe replacers for the NPCs.  If there is something else needed, please let me know.  Thank you.  

 

[DSHV]

57 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

Should a girl try this mod?

It's hard for me to grasp all the content like that off the top of my head. I will say, I generally like to write more humor than non-humor, and try to avoid feces theme, death (but sometimes includes standard Skyrim gameplay), and hopeless sadism, but who knows what mood I was in when I created some content. There is violence, but hypertrophied and I would say cartoonish. I mean that the player is Dovahkiin or future Dovahkiin, who can withstand much more than ordinary people. Probably most of all somebody can say that the mod is disgusting, but I tried to put the most disgusting things at low levels of the player dignity parameter and when the player purposefully goes in this direction. And also added the global variable AAAimsqueamish, which can be activated. But I will not lie, I think that my protection from disgust is not very successful. Also in the mod there is a lot of racism and sexism in the form of dirty talk.
In general, the warning: "Disgusting, sexist, humiliating and violent content!" is not for nothing.

Edited August 20, 2025 by DSHV

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, DSHV said:

It's hard for me to grasp all the content like that off the top of my head. I will say, I generally like to write more humor than non-humor, and try to avoid feces theme, death (but sometimes includes standard Skyrim gameplay), and hopeless sadism, but who knows what mood I was in when I created some content. There is violence, but hypertrophied and I would say cartoonish. I mean that the player is Dovahkiin or future Dovahkiin, who can withstand much more than ordinary people. Probably most of all somebody can say that the mod is disgusting, but I tried to put the most disgusting things at low levels of the player dignity parameter and when the player purposefully goes in this direction. And also added the global variable AAAimsqueamish, which can be activated. But I will not lie, I think that my protection from disgust is not very successful. Also in the mod there is a lot of racism and sexism in the form of dirty talk.
In general, the warning: "Disgusting, sexist, humiliating and violent content!" is not for nothing.

Very kind of you to respond personally.  I posted this comment after reading a lengthy dialogue branch that was posted.  Not sure what portion of your mod it was from.  There were some of the comments that seemed somewhat concerning for me to experience without some serious thought.  Add to this that when I do play, I love with my heart, feel yearnings, experience fear, smile when I see my special friends, feel pain when they are hurt, and cry if they die.  And yes, I enjoy the times that we touch.  Basically, I'm all in emotionally when I play.

 

I have read your comments carefully and I truly appreciate you being direct and honest with  your opinion.  Your description was very informative.   

 

"Disgusting" - I think this is my area to think about seriously.  I think you knew or suspected this.  How I will feel the first time someone tells me to eat or lick something you described above, is something I need to consider.  "why is it anal then oral" comment branch for example.  For those of use that prefer the taste of honey, male domination/being "broken" to a man's desires can be fun fantasy or result in a trip to the bathroom.   Regardless, you have given me the information I need to help me with my decision.  Thank you and wish you a wonderful day. 💖    

   

[fred200]

Take note: @PippinTom file is not directly installable. The .rar file contains two .7z archives. Choose the one that matches your system - and install that one.

[friendlygaint]

Sorry Pippin but what does DB, DG and HF mean? i'm a little slow :*(

[brewmasterhal]

1 hour ago, friendlygaint said:

Sorry Pippin but what does DB, DG and HF mean? i'm a little slow :*(

 

DragonBorn, DawnGuard, and HearthFires.  The three big DLCs for Skyrim.

You have played Skyrim before, yes?

[jfraser]

6 hours ago, TFor2 said:

Should a girl try this mod?  Seems very popular.  I'm concerned how "real" the demeaning attitudes are when you play and would like an opinion.  If its just fun fantasy, fine.  If its sick, creepy,maniac fantasy, not so much.  I'm looking for mods to add smallish sexy things to an otherwise normal game.  Tried DD things (no thanks) so I'm still looking around.  If recommended, I read you need the voice files (of course) and maybe replacers for the NPCs.  If there is something else needed, please let me know.  Thank you.  

 

 

All the bits and pieces of the mod can be turned off or just ignored. For instance, the civil war part does not block you from proceeding without doing the parts this mod adds if you choose not to do them.

 

Example of the minor types of happenings:

Spoiler

the dirty beggar behind the inn in whiterun will demand you to show your boobs then your ass then give him a bj before agreeing to leave the area. He will also be a possible follower at that point but you are not required to use him that way. 

 

If that kind of interaction is too much, this mod is probably not for you.

 

You likely will not like the main Pirve questline but you can just ignore him or turn him off in the MCM.

Edited August 20, 2025 by jfraser

[Guest]

1 hour ago, jfraser said:

 

All the bits and pieces of the mod can be turned off or just ignored. For instance, the civil war part does not block you from proceeding without doing the parts this mod adds if you choose not to do them.

 

Example of the minor types of happenings:

  Reveal hidden contents

the dirty beggar behind the inn in whiterun will demand you to show your boobs then your ass then give him a bj before agreeing to leave the area. He will also be a possible follower at that point but you are not required to use him that way. 

 

If that kind of interaction is too much, this mod is probably not for you.

 

You likely will not like the main Pirve questline but you can just ignore him or turn him off in the MCM.

Thank you.  Having flexibility is what I look for with mods along with the option to engage or not in a "quest".  Your final example is what I would like to add to my game.  Some flavor and realism.  Since you responded and don't mind, do you have any suggestions for add-ons other than the voice files?  I'm thinking NPC replacers but I didn't see one.  Later...

Edited August 20, 2025 by TFor2

[jfraser]

1 hour ago, TFor2 said:

Thank you.  Having flexibility is what I look for with mods along with the option to engage or not in a "quest".  Your final example is what I would like to add to my game.  Some flavor and realism.  Since you responded and don't mind, do you have any suggestions for add-ons other than the voice files?  I'm thinking NPC replacers but I didn't see one.  Later...

With apologies, I'm not sure what you mean. Add-ons or replacers for this mod or just in general?

[raidenlunar]

I love all of the dark marriage content in this mod. The recent additions with Sigmund are absolute gold, and the marriages to Scratcher and Wart are even better, especially the ceremonies themselves where you can give them a cock ring instead. It would be great to see another one where we marry a horse in a similar way, either in a forced or consensual scenario, or even fall in love with their cock itself through hypnosis like with Scratcher. The Scape She-Goat quest with Carrotmuncher was a great, but unfortunately very short, tidbit that could be explored more.

[moeboom]

LMAO, gotta say everyone's got different tastes when it comes to kinks 😂 I saw people criticizing your mod for being too extreme, but honestly? Your stuff feels almost tame to me. We could totally go way wilder! But regardless, your mod remains my absolute favorite quest mod ever — hands down. Can't wait for the next update!

[Guest]

2 hours ago, jfraser said:

With apologies, I'm not sure what you mean. Add-ons or replacers for this mod or just in general?

I'm sorry.  I should have written that better.  It was character replacers.  I assume the ones built into the mod are old and I like having a pretty world and beautiful characters.  thank you.

Edited August 21, 2025 by TFor2

[jfraser]

20 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

I'm sorry.  I should have written that better.  It was character replacers.  I assume the ones built into the mod are old and I like having a pretty world and beautiful characters.  thank you.

they will have whatever body you are using in your game, same as any NPCs. i don't know of any that edit the NDCs made for this mod, specifically, if that's what you're asking

[danna233]

On 8/20/2025 at 11:54 PM, TFor2 said:

Should a girl try this mod?  Seems very popular.  I'm concerned how "real" the demeaning attitudes are when you play and would like an opinion.  If its just fun fantasy, fine.  If its sick, creepy,maniac fantasy, not so much.  I'm looking for mods to add smallish sexy things to an otherwise normal game.  Tried DD things (no thanks) so I'm still looking around.  If recommended, I read you need the voice files (of course) and maybe replacers for the NPCs.  If there is something else needed, please let me know.  Thank you

The main theme of the mod is eating different types of feces. Well, yes, the mod is made for these perverts. There is more disgusting and humiliating content than in all DD mods combined. If you just want a sexual experience without humiliation and violence and with a good story, then perhaps the Ancient Profession mod will suit you.

[jariabila]

I played ToH years ago and it was fantastic. Now I'm going to try it again, but now I have a huge mod list. After checking, I saw ToH touches pretty much everything in my load order. So I have a couple of questions.

Where should I place ToH in my load order? Should i put high as possible and let other mods overwrite it?

What does PippinTomsTOHMoreStableESP do?

Should i esl plugins, or would it be extremely painful for such a big mod?

[DSHV]

On 8/21/2025 at 2:04 AM, TFor2 said:

do you have any suggestions for add-ons other than the voice files?

You can see them on the main page of the mod under Patches:

2 hours ago, danna233 said:

The main theme of the mod is eating different.

Specify five moments where the PC forced to eat feces or apologize.

15 minutes ago, jariabila said:

Should i put high as possible and let other mods overwrite it?

I think other mods know better what they are doing. PippinTomsTOHMoreStableESP just has fewer bugs.
This is not such a big mod, by the way, it is light on scripts and mainly adds NPCs and simple quests.

[danna233]

44 minutes ago, DSHV said:

Specify five moments where the PC forced to eat feces or apologize.

Licking someone's ass is all over the place there. You don't have to delve deep into the mod to understand that someone has a thing about it. One shit-stained bum who is forced to lick is in the Rift. Then you made Lydia a pervert who loves to watch how the character licks the guards' anus. But why are you so worried? You wanted to make a sickening mod, and you did it.

Edited August 22, 2025 by danna233

[DSHV]

57 minutes ago, danna233 said:

Licking someone's ass is all over the place there.

So rimming for you equal coprophilia? Well then I can't argue with that definition. But I will say that in my headcanon, every NPC and PC has the cleanest ass possible. 

[Algene]

8 hours ago, danna233 said:

Licking someone's ass is all over the place there. You don't have to delve deep into the mod to understand that someone has a thing about it. One shit-stained bum who is forced to lick is in the Rift. Then you made Lydia a pervert who loves to watch how the character licks the guards' anus. But why are you so worried? You wanted to make a sickening mod, and you did it.

That's like saying sucking dick is drinking piss, ain't making sense man

[jfraser]

2 hours ago, Algene said:

That's like saying sucking dick is drinking piss, ain't making sense man

To be as fair as possible, licking someone's ass if they have not cleaned and prepared for the occasion would likely involve licking shit. 

Edited August 22, 2025 by jfraser

[Guest]

I have the information I need and thanks to everyone for their kind assistance.   There is no further need for additional mod descriptions and I hope each of you have a great day.  Blessings of Mara to all of you.

 

 

Edited August 23, 2025 by TFor2

[DSHV]

13 hours ago, jfraser said:

To be as fair as possible, licking someone's ass if they have not cleaned and prepared for the occasion would likely involve licking shit. 

Well, "licking ass" can also mean just innocent licking ass cheeks.
But let's end this stupidest definitional dispute.

[InKal]

I dismissed that Orc follower Grummz or smth that dude from Riverwood and now he is nowhere to be found. Not in that initial inn, not in my house in Whiterun, not in Jarl Balgfruf flat. Where is he? He is awesome, funny and great fighter.

[DSHV]

9 hours ago, InKal said:

I dismissed that Orc follower Grummz or smth that dude from Riverwood and now he is nowhere to be found.

If the mod's main quest is started, Bruiser will live in Forgotten Regret, or go to it. Try loading an earlier save, mark him in the console and load a current save and use moveto player.