Troubles of Heroine

[DSHV]

21 hours ago, PippinTom said:

I don't mean any really fancy nor time consuming shit - just re-saving LE esp with CK and using it instead of esp provided in SE package available here, on LL.

This is what I do. Well, I actually change some word in a dialogue before saving.

[mcnv]

On 8/18/2025 at 2:45 AM, brewmasterhal said:

 

Let me ask a counter question: how do you feel about eating poo?

 

MCM checkboxes are connected to boolean-type global records in the mod data.  Open up the mod in xEdit and look through the set of globals until you find one that has a name that matches, then look at the list of references to that global and sort by record type to find which INFO records check for the value of the global in their condition data.

 

Edit: I just checked.  There are in practice 6 references to the global.  For all real purposes, the MCM setting does nothing.

 

23 hours ago, DSHV said:

A couple of dialogue lines are replaced or disabled, but there is no shit eating either way. There is some rubbing of shit on the face as a reference to BG3.

So, no quests are outright disabled. good to know. Just regular rape for me thanks.

[PippinTom]

1 hour ago, DSHV said:

This is what I do. Well, I actually change some word in a dialogue before saving.

 

Then - any ideas why are we getting so different results? Maybe we use different versions of (or differently set up) CK?

Since obviously having ~9kb log of errors is better for end-user than having it at ~23kb, especially if that 9kb does not contain any new and meaningful errors comparing to base LE (I completely ignore meaningless issues like Tint errors, that anyone can patch easily for themselves or ignore).

 

Anyway - If for any reason you can't/don't wish to switch/reconfigure and/or update your CK - I can give you mine exports to see for yourself - or just use them in release package as they are (As a general rule, I refrain from posting anything of this nature in thread where the author remains active without his permission).

[DSHV]

57 minutes ago, PippinTom said:

Anyway - If for any reason you can't/don't wish to switch/reconfigure and/or update your CK

Yes, I think it would be better if I took someone else's ported esp, it's easier and faster.

Fallout 4 Forgotten Art:
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/255359-fallout-4-forgotten-art

[PippinTom]

4 hours ago, DSHV said:

Yes, I think it would be better if I took someone else's ported esp, it's easier and faster.

 

Done, sent via PM.

[Dehabe]

Your Mom Follower

 

NTR Mother-Bully:

 

I've always wanted to expand the content that features the family of these players. Dragonborn's family (whether it's your husband, parents or children) could be a weakness.
It's full of really good content.

If you're targeting Dragonborn's mom, why don't the blackmailers threaten both her and her? For example, you threaten your mom by telling her about her deviant or criminal history, and you threaten her with a little bit of injustice during her career, or something like that. I think Dragonborn's hometown friends can be linked again. I've always liked him.
Serpent may be interested in Dragonborn's mother.

[DSHV]

Added PippinTom's more stable esps.

[jperrins66]

So which of the new esp's are for the SE version ?

[PippinTom]

1 hour ago, jperrins66 said:

So which of the new esp's are for the SE version ?

 

It's easy - all of them.

"header 1.70" are for SE 1.5.97 while "header 1.71" are for SE 1.6.1170+

Edited August 20, 2025 by PippinTom

[Guest]

Should a girl try this mod?  Seems very popular.  I'm concerned how "real" the demeaning attitudes are when you play and would like an opinion.  If its just fun fantasy, fine.  If its sick, creepy,maniac fantasy, not so much.  I'm looking for mods to add smallish sexy things to an otherwise normal game.  Tried DD things (no thanks) so I'm still looking around.  If recommended, I read you need the voice files (of course) and maybe replacers for the NPCs.  If there is something else needed, please let me know.  Thank you.  

 

[DSHV]

57 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

Should a girl try this mod?

It's hard for me to grasp all the content like that off the top of my head. I will say, I generally like to write more humor than non-humor, and try to avoid feces theme, death (but sometimes includes standard Skyrim gameplay), and hopeless sadism, but who knows what mood I was in when I created some content. There is violence, but hypertrophied and I would say cartoonish. I mean that the player is Dovahkiin or future Dovahkiin, who can withstand much more than ordinary people. Probably most of all somebody can say that the mod is disgusting, but I tried to put the most disgusting things at low levels of the player dignity parameter and when the player purposefully goes in this direction. And also added the global variable AAAimsqueamish, which can be activated. But I will not lie, I think that my protection from disgust is not very successful. Also in the mod there is a lot of racism and sexism in the form of dirty talk.
In general, the warning: "Disgusting, sexist, humiliating and violent content!" is not for nothing.

Edited August 20, 2025 by DSHV

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, DSHV said:

It's hard for me to grasp all the content like that off the top of my head. I will say, I generally like to write more humor than non-humor, and try to avoid feces theme, death (but sometimes includes standard Skyrim gameplay), and hopeless sadism, but who knows what mood I was in when I created some content. There is violence, but hypertrophied and I would say cartoonish. I mean that the player is Dovahkiin or future Dovahkiin, who can withstand much more than ordinary people. Probably most of all somebody can say that the mod is disgusting, but I tried to put the most disgusting things at low levels of the player dignity parameter and when the player purposefully goes in this direction. And also added the global variable AAAimsqueamish, which can be activated. But I will not lie, I think that my protection from disgust is not very successful. Also in the mod there is a lot of racism and sexism in the form of dirty talk.
In general, the warning: "Disgusting, sexist, humiliating and violent content!" is not for nothing.

Very kind of you to respond personally.  I posted this comment after reading a lengthy dialogue branch that was posted.  Not sure what portion of your mod it was from.  There were some of the comments that seemed somewhat concerning for me to experience without some serious thought.  Add to this that when I do play, I love with my heart, feel yearnings, experience fear, smile when I see my special friends, feel pain when they are hurt, and cry if they die.  And yes, I enjoy the times that we touch.  Basically, I'm all in emotionally when I play.

 

I have read your comments carefully and I truly appreciate you being direct and honest with  your opinion.  Your description was very informative.   

 

"Disgusting" - I think this is my area to think about seriously.  I think you knew or suspected this.  How I will feel the first time someone tells me to eat or lick something you described above, is something I need to consider.  "why is it anal then oral" comment branch for example.  For those of use that prefer the taste of honey, male domination/being "broken" to a man's desires can be fun fantasy or result in a trip to the bathroom.   Regardless, you have given me the information I need to help me with my decision.  Thank you and wish you a wonderful day. 💖    

   

[fred200]

Take note: @PippinTom file is not directly installable. The .rar file contains two .7z archives. Choose the one that matches your system - and install that one.

[friendlygaint]

Sorry Pippin but what does DB, DG and HF mean? i'm a little slow :*(

[brewmasterhal]

1 hour ago, friendlygaint said:

Sorry Pippin but what does DB, DG and HF mean? i'm a little slow :*(

 

DragonBorn, DawnGuard, and HearthFires.  The three big DLCs for Skyrim.

You have played Skyrim before, yes?

[jfraser]

6 hours ago, TFor2 said:

Should a girl try this mod?  Seems very popular.  I'm concerned how "real" the demeaning attitudes are when you play and would like an opinion.  If its just fun fantasy, fine.  If its sick, creepy,maniac fantasy, not so much.  I'm looking for mods to add smallish sexy things to an otherwise normal game.  Tried DD things (no thanks) so I'm still looking around.  If recommended, I read you need the voice files (of course) and maybe replacers for the NPCs.  If there is something else needed, please let me know.  Thank you.  

 

 

All the bits and pieces of the mod can be turned off or just ignored. For instance, the civil war part does not block you from proceeding without doing the parts this mod adds if you choose not to do them.

 

Example of the minor types of happenings:

Spoiler

the dirty beggar behind the inn in whiterun will demand you to show your boobs then your ass then give him a bj before agreeing to leave the area. He will also be a possible follower at that point but you are not required to use him that way. 

 

If that kind of interaction is too much, this mod is probably not for you.

 

You likely will not like the main Pirve questline but you can just ignore him or turn him off in the MCM.

Edited August 20, 2025 by jfraser

[Guest]

1 hour ago, jfraser said:

 

All the bits and pieces of the mod can be turned off or just ignored. For instance, the civil war part does not block you from proceeding without doing the parts this mod adds if you choose not to do them.

 

Example of the minor types of happenings:

  Reveal hidden contents

the dirty beggar behind the inn in whiterun will demand you to show your boobs then your ass then give him a bj before agreeing to leave the area. He will also be a possible follower at that point but you are not required to use him that way. 

 

If that kind of interaction is too much, this mod is probably not for you.

 

You likely will not like the main Pirve questline but you can just ignore him or turn him off in the MCM.

Thank you.  Having flexibility is what I look for with mods along with the option to engage or not in a "quest".  Your final example is what I would like to add to my game.  Some flavor and realism.  Since you responded and don't mind, do you have any suggestions for add-ons other than the voice files?  I'm thinking NPC replacers but I didn't see one.  Later...

Edited August 20, 2025 by TFor2

[jfraser]

1 hour ago, TFor2 said:

Thank you.  Having flexibility is what I look for with mods along with the option to engage or not in a "quest".  Your final example is what I would like to add to my game.  Some flavor and realism.  Since you responded and don't mind, do you have any suggestions for add-ons other than the voice files?  I'm thinking NPC replacers but I didn't see one.  Later...

With apologies, I'm not sure what you mean. Add-ons or replacers for this mod or just in general?

[raidenlunar]

I love all of the dark marriage content in this mod. The recent additions with Sigmund are absolute gold, and the marriages to Scratcher and Wart are even better, especially the ceremonies themselves where you can give them a cock ring instead. It would be great to see another one where we marry a horse in a similar way, either in a forced or consensual scenario, or even fall in love with their cock itself through hypnosis like with Scratcher. The Scape She-Goat quest with Carrotmuncher was a great, but unfortunately very short, tidbit that could be explored more.

[moeboom]

LMAO, gotta say everyone's got different tastes when it comes to kinks 😂 I saw people criticizing your mod for being too extreme, but honestly? Your stuff feels almost tame to me. We could totally go way wilder! But regardless, your mod remains my absolute favorite quest mod ever — hands down. Can't wait for the next update!

[Guest]

2 hours ago, jfraser said:

With apologies, I'm not sure what you mean. Add-ons or replacers for this mod or just in general?

I'm sorry.  I should have written that better.  It was character replacers.  I assume the ones built into the mod are old and I like having a pretty world and beautiful characters.  thank you.

Edited August 21, 2025 by TFor2

[jfraser]

20 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

I'm sorry.  I should have written that better.  It was character replacers.  I assume the ones built into the mod are old and I like having a pretty world and beautiful characters.  thank you.

they will have whatever body you are using in your game, same as any NPCs. i don't know of any that edit the NDCs made for this mod, specifically, if that's what you're asking

[danna233]

On 8/20/2025 at 11:54 PM, TFor2 said:

Should a girl try this mod?  Seems very popular.  I'm concerned how "real" the demeaning attitudes are when you play and would like an opinion.  If its just fun fantasy, fine.  If its sick, creepy,maniac fantasy, not so much.  I'm looking for mods to add smallish sexy things to an otherwise normal game.  Tried DD things (no thanks) so I'm still looking around.  If recommended, I read you need the voice files (of course) and maybe replacers for the NPCs.  If there is something else needed, please let me know.  Thank you

The main theme of the mod is eating different types of feces. Well, yes, the mod is made for these perverts. There is more disgusting and humiliating content than in all DD mods combined. If you just want a sexual experience without humiliation and violence and with a good story, then perhaps the Ancient Profession mod will suit you.

[jariabila]

I played ToH years ago and it was fantastic. Now I'm going to try it again, but now I have a huge mod list. After checking, I saw ToH touches pretty much everything in my load order. So I have a couple of questions.

Where should I place ToH in my load order? Should i put high as possible and let other mods overwrite it?

What does PippinTomsTOHMoreStableESP do?

Should i esl plugins, or would it be extremely painful for such a big mod?

[DSHV]

On 8/21/2025 at 2:04 AM, TFor2 said:

do you have any suggestions for add-ons other than the voice files?

You can see them on the main page of the mod under Patches:

2 hours ago, danna233 said:

The main theme of the mod is eating different.

Specify five moments where the PC forced to eat feces or apologize.

15 minutes ago, jariabila said:

Should i put high as possible and let other mods overwrite it?

I think other mods know better what they are doing. PippinTomsTOHMoreStableESP just has fewer bugs.
This is not such a big mod, by the way, it is light on scripts and mainly adds NPCs and simple quests.