Troubles of Heroine

[zhuguannan123]

is there a place where I can check older update logs?

[brewmasterhal]

44 minutes ago, zhuguannan123 said:

is there a place where I can check older update logs?

 

You can search the forum for posts in this topic written by DSHV that have valid release version numbers in them.  You'll get a few false positives but it's not a long list.

[DSHV]

On 3/17/2023 at 5:11 PM, Teryn said:

Could anyone maybe help me understand how to progress with the Companions with the sexist companions on?

Some quests are unlocked by progressing with vanilla Companions. For example, PC need to become a werewolf.

The mod not prevents progress of vanilla quests, it's a bug.

On 3/17/2023 at 5:48 PM, Chocolatnave said:

Is there anything after the part in Spouses Old Friend when you introduce the lover to your spouse?

No. Nothing more.

On 3/18/2023 at 2:24 PM, Кhrysamere said:

There is no subtlety, tact, and you can forget about pacing,

I have to admit that I didn't have the skills to write sexist, brazen, nasty, rude characters for BDSM porn mod like adults with tact and subtlety. 

I post texts before implementation in this topic, but no one really wants to fix or improve the style.

On 3/18/2023 at 4:07 PM, throatdeep said:

Merged SE 2.7.0

Thank you. Added it to the mod's description.

On 3/19/2023 at 4:30 AM, Elias De Lorde said:

Wanted to ask tho, will the other endings be achievable organically?

No. And they are included a PC's spouse who may not be. I fixed endings in POS.

On 3/19/2023 at 5:54 AM, zhuguannan123 said:

I wish to list it here once for answers:

1. Have you spoken to Actor? Try the code setstage AAATOHICD 25.

2. They have global variables that change from training. Use set *global* to X. AAABrotherLevel to 4, AAALiftsSanity to 0-14 (If she has 0 sanity it will be more creepy than sexy), AAATwistedSisters to 7.

3. Vanir should be there. Try to spawn him with the console.

AAATapasveeSouthernGuest.

17 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

Has anyone tested out Gishar the cannibal?,

I tested him. It turns out the transformation into a werewolf is very easy. Just activate the animation and change his race. I'm surprised it's that simple. You can ask him to transform back and forth and even the dialogue does not need to be changed.

3 hours ago, zhuguannan123 said:

is there a place where I can check older update logs?

In the readme.

Edited March 20, 2023 by DSHV
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[gender65]

This is such a cool mod, thanks a lot to the author! Really super mod! And the main thing is that everything works there ! Bravo the author !

[DustyEverman]

How about adding an alternate ending to Farm Slave, where you can convince a few nearby bandits to kill the farmer and his wife and make the farm their new hideout after escaping?

The PC could promise to have sex with them after they do, which would give you the option of going through with it, or killing them after thery're done.

The way it is right now feels a bit weird, because almost everything else in TOH gives you some way to win in the end or turn the tables.

 

[zhuguannan123]

14 hours ago, DSHV said:

1. Have you spoken to Actor? Try the code setstage AAATOHICD 25.

2. They have global variables that change from training. Use set *global* to X. AAABrotherLevel to 4, AAALiftsSanity to 0-14 (If she has 0 sanity it will be more creepy than sexy), AAATwistedSisters to 7.

3. Vanir should be there. Try to spawn him with the console.

AAATapasveeSouthernGuest.

 

thank you very much

[Кhrysamere]

On 3/20/2023 at 3:25 AM, DSHV said:

 

I have to admit that I didn't have the skills to write sexist, brazen, nasty, rude characters for BDSM porn mod like adults with tact and subtlety. 

I post texts before implementation in this topic, but no one really wants to fix or improve the style.

 

It has to be tasteful, that is the absolute most important thing. If you want to have a character be sexist but not completely one-dimensional, you can't whack the player in the head with constant sexism in every piece of dialogue from that character. In order for them to have more nuance, it would have to be subtle. If you approach an NPC, and they immediately start lambasting you with things like "All women are cumdumps that should stay in the kitchen" or "You should shut up and use that mouth for something more useful, wench", that will almost immediately take you out of it, because most people don't talk like that, especially towards someone they just met.

 

Instead, you would want the sexism to be brought up in natural ways. For example, say you're in a blacksmith's shop. There's another NPC inside that's also shopping, if you were to approach them and ask for recommendations as to what kind of weapon you should purchase, the man could show some hesitation, but would eventually answer. The player may pick up on this and inquire more. After passing a speech check, the NPC would then go into detail about having a female companion that perished whilst out on an expedition, and that traumatic event has led them not wishing to see another female adventurer put their life at risk out in the Wilds, and should instead remain within the walls of the city to be safe. It's sexist, but it's also a real, understandable fear. The relationship between the player and that NPC could then focus on exploring that traumatic event and coming to terms with it. Shift your mindset when creating NPCs, instead of being purely defined by a single thing, in this case -- sexism. Have that be just a single part of who they are. Remember that you need to be simulating real people, and real interactions. Relying on caricatures will result in a paper-thin and unengaging experience that won't hold up to any scrutiny. 

 

In regards to nasty content, whilst I can't say I'm really into it, my advice would be that the setting needs to be thematically appropriate. If I'm walking to Whiterun, I shouldn't see a nude woman working in the fields along the road, nor should I see an Orc like Bruiser at the Sleeping Giant Inn within Riverwood, as Delphine would never allow that kind of behavior at her establishment.  It makes no sense that I should be greeted by a woman in binds offering to give me a tour when I walk into Whiterun, there is no pre-existing Lore that would indicate that Whiterun would be supportive of humiliation and slavery like that. I definitely shouldn't be having my character's clothes get stripped off by an NPC right outside the Blue Palace, the guards would arrest them on the spot. If you want to have a disgusting and nasty NPC, they need to be in a disgusting and nasty place. Otherwise you come upon these very jarring situations, that take you out of the immersion.

 

Same thing goes with rudeness, it has to be contextually appropriate, tasteful, and immersive. But what does that mean? Well, one thing comes to mind, the language has to be befitting of an Era like Skyrim. Looking back at the quote I made before, "All women are cumdumps that should stay in the kitchen". Would someone in Skyrim actually use that word, "cumdump?" I highly doubt it, that's modern slang, and has no place in a game like Skyrim. You need to keep the vocabulary consistent to what the people of Skyrim would actually say.

 

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by Кhrysamere

[Dehabe]

I read your article every time, but I feel that there are so many good ideas. I'm impressed with your farm story idea (especially marriage!) and I'm so grateful to include some of the stories I suggested in your work. If I was good at English, I can talk to your draft, but I am so sad that I can't. I'm always looking at your answer using translation. Thank you always.

[killer905]

On 3/20/2023 at 11:25 AM, DSHV said:

I have to admit that I didn't have the skills to write sexist, brazen, nasty, rude characters for BDSM porn mod like adults with tact and subtlety. 

I post texts before implementation in this topic, but no one really wants to fix or improve the style.

Unfortunately, if someone wants to improve the text, they have to imagine how it will look like in the game. And his corrections may no longer reflect what you came up with.

[Dehabe]

I simply make a suggestion.

This quest will work if you have an adopted child, depending on the location of the house where the child lives The content changes.

I thought you might not be interested in this, so I only wrote about the Lakeview mansion in Falcris.

 

When the player's house is on the outskirts of the city

Dragonborn is often adventurous, so the adopted child is sometimes lonely. Because of this, the child has a hobby of exploring near his house. They follow rabbits, they climb trees, they collect flowers. The occupation of guarding the house while you're away doesn't follow a child because it's basically defending the stronghold. However, I only told my child not to leave the house too far. Skyrim is basically a dangerous environment. There are houses that can adversely affect children or have a bad educational impact. This can also be seen through a spouse's conversation if you move from Vanilla.

(In the case of Mosal's house, the spouse complains, while Solitude's house is a favorite.)

 

1. Lakeview Mansion in Falkreath is a beautiful place, but danger looms nearby. Siddgeir is a lord who is being bribed by one of the dangers, the bandits. The captain of Pinewatch near the mansion is leading his men here, disguised as an ordinary house. Sidgear doesn't know exactly where they are, but he's taking their actions into account by taking bribes from them. Because of this, the guards in Falkreath also have a lot of corruption, and they are sensitive to changes in the town. Siddgeir also gives convenience to bandits. There's a special space in his prison, where if a member of a band closely related to Siddgeir is caught, even Tahold would use money to put him in this special prison. This is a prison that educates prisoners on the surface, but actually provides for the convenience of bandits, and the prisoners here know that after a certain period of rest, they will return to their den again. Siddgeir made his achievements, claiming that bad people can also be good people, and bandits are bribing such Jarl.

 

Realizing that the village's occupation is a powerful Skyrim hero living in a beautiful mansion, they are greedy because they believe that Dragonborn's powerful equipment will be in the mansion, but they also know that there is a risk of robbing the home of the lord's appointed occupation. I also know that a good guardian is always guarding the house. Because of this, they decide to use Dragonborn's child. The child living in the mansion is very bored because he lives in a place quite far from the village. Because of this, I became interested in Pine Watch near the mansion. He wondered if there was a child his age. The bandits, who noticed this, use the bandit child from the kidnapped women to make friends with him. Also, bandits appear as their father and mother, inviting Dragonborn's child to play. Then I send a letter to the mansion. 'I know that there is a child of Dragonborn. If you don't pay me every week, there could be a risk to your child.' Dragonborn dissuades the child from playing because this is a dangerous area for the child, but the child cannot give up his or her friend. I liked children of my age more than spending time with my parents. Dragonborn also couldn't stop him from going to meet a friend of the nearby Pine Watch, so when he goes out, he will take him to his friend's house with a guardian driver or Dragonborn. Dragonborn tries to find forces that threaten his child, but he doesn't realize that the basement of the house where the child's friend lives is a bandits' den. Eventually, they respond to the demands of the bandits, bribing them every week for the safety of the child, and the bandits become arrogant and eventually show interest in the hero's body. Knowing that he is a very powerful hero, Dragonborn alone meets bandits with bribes in his hands every week, and then moves to the basement of Pine Watch with his eyes covered. The bandit leader threatens that we are a mole organization and it is simple to kill us, but if we kill us, nearby bandit will kidnap the main character's child and sell it to another country.

 

Dragonborn can give in at this time or conform for the child. Conformity often leads to work in speculative fields such as Creg Slane Cave to make money for bandits. If you choose a particular option, you can go out to work, sell alcohol to the evil people who come here, do prostitution, or do a show that serves the wolves of the dogfight. If you volunteer for something like this, you get the same amount as a bribe. Since then, there has been a rumor that there is a woman playing with a wolf in a fighting dog in the inn. It's a kind of business for Jarl and bandits, and it's a paradise for those who live on the back of society.

 

The bandit leader is threatening Dragonborn to rob them of equipment and money, so he's armed them with powerful equipment. The captain is armed with powerful Daderick weapons or Ebony class weapons, and his men are able to equip them with magical weapons and armor. The captain was so clever that he prepared a means to fight back against the adventurers who came to subjugate them. Even an army in a region would have to take its toll to subdue them. Because of this, there is a public undertaking, but it is acquiesced in Skyrim.

 

In the end, Dragonborn is the only one who can solve this situation.

Edited March 21, 2023 by Dehabe

[furel]

I'm playing the SE version
I checked the mod in xEdit and a ton of errors saying "Can't read string: [EEncodingError] No mapping for the Unicode character exists in the target multi-byte code page" I know what is causing it, I wondering if could cause a problem in game.

Also xEdit found other kind of errors

Spoiler

[00:00] AAASanguineBoobed "Sanguine" [NPC_:0709BC8B]
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 1 not found in WoodElfRace "Elfo del bosque" [RACE:00013749]>
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 3 not found in WoodElfRace "Elfo del bosque" [RACE:00013749]>
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 58 not found in WoodElfRace "Elfo del bosque" [RACE:00013749]>
[00:00] AAAThalmorPrisoner "Con suerte masoquista voluntaria " [NPC_:0709BEBF]
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 3 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 8 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 19 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:00] AAASBSqueezableTits "Tetas comprimibles" [NPC_:070A233E]
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 2 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 3 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 8 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:00] AAAJordDaughter "Woman" [NPC_:070A9125]
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 2 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 3 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:00]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 19 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01] AAADeadWalker "Walker" [NPC_:070B5D2E]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 1 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 62 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01] AAACumsLikeThunder "Cums-Like-Thunder" [NPC_:070B6A47]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 6 not found in ArgonianRace "Argoniano" [RACE:00013740]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 7 not found in ArgonianRace "Argoniano" [RACE:00013740]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 38 not found in ArgonianRace "Argoniano" [RACE:00013740]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 39 not found in ArgonianRace "Argoniano" [RACE:00013740]>
[00:01] AAAGuiltyWarWhore "Guilty War Whore" [NPC_:070D49B5]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 1 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 3 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01] AAAFarmWhoreAA "Woman B" [NPC_:070D52EA]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 1 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01] AAASSSWoman "Woman" [NPC_:070D7B77]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 2 not found in BretonRace "Bretón" [RACE:00013741]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 73 not found in BretonRace "Bretón" [RACE:00013741]>
[00:01] AAABettyWhore "Puta " [NPC_:070EB5D1]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 2 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 3 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 19 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01] AAAStromcloakSolderFemale "Stromcloak Solder" [NPC_:070EF1EA]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 63 not found in NordRace "Nórdico" [RACE:00013746]>
[00:01] AAAPartyMalign "Whore Malign" [NPC_:071002BD]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 1 not found in DarkElfRace "Elfo oscuro" [RACE:00013742]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 3 not found in DarkElfRace "Elfo oscuro" [RACE:00013742]>
[00:01] AAAPartySupine "Whore Supine" [NPC_:071002C1]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 1 not found in HighElfRace "Alto elfo" [RACE:00013743]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 3 not found in HighElfRace "Alto elfo" [RACE:00013743]>
[00:01] AAASuperSeducer "Lusty Seducer" [NPC_:07023A92]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 8 not found in DremoraRace "Dremora" [RACE:000131F0]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 15 not found in DremoraRace "Dremora" [RACE:000131F0]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 61 not found in DremoraRace "Dremora" [RACE:000131F0]>
[00:01] AAAMHidelion "Hidelion" [NPC_:07000D84]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 24 not found in HighElfRace "Alto elfo" [RACE:00013743]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 25 not found in HighElfRace "Alto elfo" [RACE:00013743]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 26 not found in HighElfRace "Alto elfo" [RACE:00013743]>
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 30 not found in HighElfRace "Alto elfo" [RACE:00013743]>
[00:01] AAAMDarkir "Dar'kir" [NPC_:07000D90]
[00:01]     NPC_ \ Tint Layers \ Layer \ TINI - Tint Index -> <Tint layer index 33 not found in KhajiitRace "Khajiita" [RACE:00013745]>
[00:03] ArenaDoor [REFR:07084735] (places ImpJailDoor01 "Puerta" [DOOR:00040BB2] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of AAAFightClub "Arena" [CELL:070846FB])
[00:03]     REFR \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [0408470C] < Error: Could not be resolved >
[00:03]     REFR \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [0408470D] < Error: Could not be resolved >
[00:04] [INFO:070266BB] ('You eat a lot, I don't get anything. You are as fat as a whale. Now, this should hold back your irrepressible gluttony.' in GRUP Topic Children of AAACharityOrdersTopic "Do you need anything?" [DIAL:070266B6])
[00:04]     INFO \ Conditions \ Condition \ CTDA - CTDA \ Parameter #1 -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ALCH,AMMO,ARMO,BOOK,COBJ,FLST,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLI,MISC,SCRL,SLGM,WEAP

[00:12] AAAPriceofFame "Price of Fame" [QUST:07003F98]
[00:12]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAAPriceofFame "Price of Fame" [QUST:07003F98]">
[00:12] AAAGaronaQuest "Bookbarian" [QUST:0700E93D]
[00:12]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAAGaronaQuest "Bookbarian" [QUST:0700E93D]">
[00:12] AAACarvainQuest "Corruption" [QUST:0701155C]
[00:12]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAACarvainQuest "Corruption" [QUST:0701155C]">
[00:12] AAABadBitchQuest "Estrous Cycle" [QUST:07014CC9]
[00:12]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAABadBitchQuest "Estrous Cycle" [QUST:07014CC9]">
[00:12] AAAFalskVennQuest "Friendship Bonds" [QUST:070165AB]
[00:12]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "AAAFalskVennQuest "Friendship Bonds" [QUST:070165AB]">
[00:12] AAATOHEndingGood "Breaking Chains" [QUST:0706A164]
[00:13] AAAWhoringNaviresPrisonCrimes [DLBR:0710B34F]
[00:13]     DLBR \ SNAM - Starting Topic -> Found a NULL reference, expected: DIAL

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by furel

[E_Nigma]

On 3/20/2023 at 7:26 PM, Кhrysamere said:

 

It has to be tasteful, that is the absolute most important thing. If you want to have a character be sexist but not completely one-dimensional, you can't whack the player in the head with constant sexism in every piece of dialogue from that character. In order for them to have more nuance, it would have to be subtle. If you approach an NPC, and they immediately start lambasting you with things like "All women are cumdumps that should stay in the kitchen" or "You should shut up and use that mouth for something more useful, wench", that will almost immediately take you out of it, because most people don't talk like that, especially towards someone they just met.

 

Instead, you would want the sexism to be brought up in natural ways. For example, say you're in a blacksmith's shop. There's another NPC inside that's also shopping, if you were to approach them and ask for recommendations as to what kind of weapon you should purchase, the man could show some hesitation, but would eventually answer. The player may pick up on this and inquire more. After passing a speech check, the NPC would then go into detail about having a female companion that perished whilst out on an expedition, and that traumatic event has led them not wishing to see another female adventurer put their life at risk out in the Wilds, and should instead remain within the walls of the city to be safe. It's sexist, but it's also a real, understandable fear. The relationship between the player and that NPC could then focus on exploring that traumatic event and coming to terms with it. Shift your mindset when creating NPCs, instead of being purely defined by a single thing, in this case -- sexism. Have that be just a single part of who they are. Remember that you need to be simulating real people, and real interactions. Relying on caricatures will result in a paper-thin and unengaging experience that won't hold up to any scrutiny. 

 

In regards to nasty content, whilst I can't say I'm really into it, my advice would be that the setting needs to be thematically appropriate. If I'm walking to Whiterun, I shouldn't see a nude woman working in the fields along the road, nor should I see an Orc like Bruiser at the Sleeping Giant Inn within Riverwood, as Delphine would never allow that kind of behavior at her establishment.  It makes no sense that I should be greeted by a woman in binds offering to give me a tour when I walk into Whiterun, there is no pre-existing Lore that would indicate that Whiterun would be supportive of humiliation and slavery like that. I definitely shouldn't be having my character's clothes get stripped off by an NPC right outside the Blue Palace, the guards would arrest them on the spot. If you want to have a disgusting and nasty NPC, they need to be in a disgusting and nasty place. Otherwise you come upon these very jarring situations, that take you out of the immersion.

 

Same thing goes with rudeness, it has to be contextually appropriate, tasteful, and immersive. But what does that mean? Well, one thing comes to mind, the language has to be befitting of an Era like Skyrim. Looking back at the quote I made before, "All women are cumdumps that should stay in the kitchen". Would someone in Skyrim actually use that word, "cumdump?" I highly doubt it, that's modern slang, and has no place in a game like Skyrim. You need to keep the vocabulary consistent to what the people of Skyrim would actually say.

 

 

Yeah I've tried making this kind of point but a lot less tactfully tbh. Almost every dialogue and convo is the same and it makes both problem and trouble very predictable. Every once in a while there is a quest or a premise that's actually very promising or could be fleshed out into something great but never quite gets where it could be, though like I said a few quests here and there escape the mold and surprise. Like the strange room quest while it was pretty obv where it was going to go it felt like a little more thought went into it than the normal u woman woman bad woman cumdump drink vile stuff rape fest.

 

The effort is appreciated despite my complaints but there are very few making quests and if what you wrote were taken into account for another project there could be an all time great mod out of it.

Edited March 22, 2023 by E_Nigma

[killer905]

7 hours ago, E_Nigma said:

Yeah I've tried making this kind of point but a lot less tactfully tbh. Almost every dialogue and convo is the same and it makes both problem and trouble very predictable. Every once in a while there is a quest or a premise that's actually very promising or could be fleshed out into something great but never quite gets where it could be, though like I said a few quests here and there escape the mold and surprise. Like the strange room quest while it was pretty obv where it was going to go it felt like a little more thought went into it than the normal u woman woman bad woman cumdump drink vile stuff rape fest.

 

The effort is appreciated despite my complaints but there are very few making quests and if what you wrote were taken into account for another project there could be an all time great mod out of it.

Strange Room? You mean Mysterious Room Quest in Markarth added by ToH?

[jc321]

On 3/21/2023 at 12:09 PM, killer905 said:

On 3/20/2023 at 10:25 AM, DSHV said:

I have to admit that I didn't have the skills to write sexist, brazen, nasty, rude characters for BDSM porn mod like adults with tact and subtlety. 

I post texts before implementation in this topic, but no one really wants to fix or improve the style.

Unfortunately, if someone wants to improve the text, they have to imagine how it will look like in the game. And his corrections may no longer reflect what you came up with.

 

For what it's worth, I actually quite like incoherent dialogue primarily because it helps me instantly know which mod the NPC I've just encountered has come from and secondly when interacting with some of these degenerate NPC's it seems befitting that not only are they talking obscenely but that they struggle to put a coherent sentence together in the fist place. Makes perfect sense to me. 

 

OK there are some interactions such as Lydia - who I still can't work out if I'm asking her to stop training me or start it based on the dialogue so one minute she's talking perfect English the next I've no idea what she's going on about but again with multiple mods loaded I can work out which mod I'm engaging with when interacting with her.

 

Whenever I have this mod loaded it's like I'm walking around Skyrim meeting meeting a load of nutjobs coming out with sentences I'm never quite sure what I just heard and if I even understood it fully and always a surprise who, or what, I'm going to meet next. It's fantastic! 

 

My only gripe with this mod is the lack of interaction with DD/Zap devices so some of the descriptions (eg: where you're told to wear only punishing items .. but you're never forced to or have to) but I know @DSHV had challenges with this in the early versions. Whether that's patchable or a work in progress for the future, who knows, but this is still a fun mod to have in my loadorder.

 

  

 

 

 

[xyzxyz]

How do I get the key for night mammoth nest? And is the entire area designed only for a fem player?

Edited March 22, 2023 by xyzxyz

[xyzxyz]

Where is that super horny argonian? he was in some cave near the sea.

[E_Nigma]

16 hours ago, killer905 said:

Strange Room? You mean Mysterious Room Quest in Markarth added by ToH?

Yeah

[killer905]

9 hours ago, E_Nigma said:

Yeah

The intention of this quest was precisely that it should be the circumstances that compel sexual activity, not because Housecarl gave us a seduction potion to drink or something like that. In the course of this quest, we have the choice of being not very smart or showing our intelligence. At the end anyway, we have the choice to make our Housecarl as lover or recognise that it was just a dream which closes the possibility of sexual activity with him. 

[Electric Aether]

On 3/22/2023 at 8:05 AM, xyzxyz said:

How do I get the key for night mammoth nest?

You need to speak to the guard outside. Follow the main quest to get the dialog with him.

 

On 3/22/2023 at 8:05 AM, xyzxyz said:

And is the entire area designed only for a fem player?

yes. Specifically any of the human races.

Nord,Breton,Imperial, and Redguard. 

 

If you want, you can write the quests for the male pc too! @xyzxyz

[xyzxyz]

10 minutes ago, Electric Aether said:

On 3/22/2023 at 4:05 PM, xyzxyz said:

 

You need to speak to the guard outside. Follow the main quest to get the dialog with him.

I completly avoid the mainquest. Too dirty for my taste^^ I thought it would be part of the womens torment quest row.

[Electric Aether]

@DSHV In a future update, Can you remove Wreckers and Big Bollys dialog? 

Since you have no plans for them. I was thinking of Re writing them if that's okay.

 

Spoilers include Character changes

 

Spoiler

Wrecker is the son of Knife and Legsspreader. However he hates both his parents. 

Big Bolly is the oldest son of Knife and an unknown Woman.  Half brother of Wrecker.

 

His mother, for her abuse at a young age, which caused him to be short. 

His Father, for being weak. Wrecker believes that his mother shouldn't be shared with the whole gang. As well as Knifes Favoritism with Big Bolly.

His Relationship with Big Bolly is Indifferent. He is jealous of his Height.

 

Big Bolly is the oldest son of Knife and an unknown Woman.  Half brother of Wrecker.

You can say that Big Bolly is Daddy's boy. 

He never knew his mother.  His mother died giving birth to him.

I have the dialog written, Just want your permission. 

[Electric Aether]

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

Too dirty for my taste

You might want to stay away from the Night Mammoths! @xyzxyz

[DSHV]

 

On 3/20/2023 at 8:40 PM, DustyEverman said:

The way it is right now feels a bit weird, because almost everything else in TOH

Well, after completing the quests, farmers become non-essential.

On 3/21/2023 at 3:38 PM, Dehabe said:

I read your article every time, but I feel that there are so many good ideas.

Farm content is almost ready. I'm still not sure about using practically the same text from POS, but I know some users would like to see it in TOH too.

On 3/22/2023 at 12:09 AM, furel said:

I wondering if could cause a problem in game.

I don't know what those errors are. Looks like about the appearance of some NPCs and aliases in quests. I've been playing with these bugs for ages and haven't noticed any bugs with these particular ones.

On 3/22/2023 at 7:05 PM, xyzxyz said:

And is the entire area designed only for a fem player?

Yes. An entrance guard should appear for her.

On 3/22/2023 at 7:57 PM, xyzxyz said:

Where is that super horny argonian?

He neither returned to the cave or stayed at the location you told him to stop following.

15 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

Specifically any of the human races.

Elven races and beastfolks will work too. By the way, female Argonian PCs have more unique phrases in the mod.

13 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

In a future update, Can you remove Wreckers and Big Bollys dialog? 

Yes, sure.

On 3/21/2023 at 6:26 AM, Кhrysamere said:

It has to be tasteful

But if it's tasteful, how can it be distasteful, which what I want?

Edited March 24, 2023 by DSHV
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[xyzxyz]

28 minutes ago, DSHV said:

On 3/22/2023 at 4:57 PM, xyzxyz said:

 

He neither returned to the cave or stayed at the location you told him to stop following.

What cave was it?

[JustJuice]

I'm stuck getting the blackmail on the vampires for Tardo. I have the key and trophy but I don't know what to do after. Tardo doesn't have any additional dialogue.