SkyrimLL/DeepBlueFrog mods conversion to SSE

[FireSplitter]

16 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

I'm not sure then. Normally the messages in your crash log are a facegen issue, but if you've regenerated it and it still occurs, and occurs while disabling the only other mod you know that uses those textures, then all i know is to troubleshoot it the hard way.

 

 

it might help to reinstall the mod, but if that doesn't work then keep the sl stories and it's requirements, and see if the crash occurs with just that mod on a new game. If it doesn't, add in your mods one at a time until you find the conflict.

Oh well, after spending quite a lot of time removing mods/creating saves/testing, by accident I found the culprit.

The culprit is the mod that was supposed to fix the facegen, Face Discoloration Fix https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42441 (I have no idea why I did not start with that, guess one does not test the actual fix lol)

 

Removing that solves the issue, but I am wondering why? Does it try to generate during runtime something that is bad, or I am missing some file? I wish the fix would work, since there are quite a few other NPC (from other mods) that can be helped by it.

Could it be that something is wrong with Aela the Nord Bitch? Something that could make the above fix crash.  

 

I had about a 15hour playthrough and testing the new load and I have not seen any problems with other NPCs. Got into this crash after being sold to red wave from simple slavery. After that I use the CCAS to directly alternate start into the Red Wave to test it. 

 

[SquatsAreLife]

From Github it sounds like Family Ties got converted to SE and is in testing?

(https://github.com/SkyrimLL/Skyrim/milestone/20?closed=1)

 

If so, any idea of release time frame?

 

Sorry for asking, but I find Github hard to navigate and understand.

[DeepBlueFrog]

2 hours ago, Eileen1968 said:

From Github it sounds like Family Ties got converted to SE and is in testing?

(https://github.com/SkyrimLL/Skyrim/milestone/20?closed=1)

 

If so, any idea of release time frame?

 

Sorry for asking, but I find Github hard to navigate and understand.

It is still a couple of months away at least. 
 

I still have to set up SE pages for most of my mods. The next ones up are hormones and stories, followed by SD, dialogues and Alicia.

[SquatsAreLife]

1 hour ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

It is still a couple of months away at least. 
 

I still have to set up SE pages for most of my mods. The next ones up are hormones and stories, followed by SD, dialogues and Alicia.

Thank you for the quick replay. Love your mods!

[Megaguardain]

Whenever I install and enable SD+ from Vortex, my game just loads a black screen with some ambient background noise and music. If I uninstall my game is fine. Did I forget some requirement or is there a mod that is fighting SD+ and making my game like this?

loadorder.bak

[Tomfool13]

@DeepBlueFrog A general question if you can recall, do any of your mods listed here effect the arch mages quarters in any way?

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, Tomfool13 said:

@DeepBlueFrog A general question if you can recall, do any of your mods listed here effect the arch mages quarters in any way?

 

Nope.. I never got to do anything with the Archmage quarters.

[FireSplitter]

I am still trying to figure out/fix the crash and there is something that I missed. When I generated the facegen data I only did:

 

Open CK -> Set as active SL Stories -> Find Alea The Nord Bitch -> Crtl + F4 -> close and start game (texture and mesh generated in overwrite folder)

 

But I did not check if the face of the NPC is correct and it is not. It is black. What am I doing wrong?

Also CK shows: 

Does this look bad?

 

 

Edited March 13, 2023 by FireSplitter

[Tomfool13]

On 3/12/2023 at 7:38 PM, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

Nope.. I never got to do anything with the Archmage quarters.

Ok great, thank you!

[flux003]

Either Devious Devices or Sanguine does something weird to Dx Celes Nightingale hood where her hair doesn't show anymore under it.. I had another Daedric hood from I think Book of UNP that did the same thing then totally broke where I couldn't even equip it. Maybe it has something to do with the slot it uses because I could equip that and the circlet horns from DX Demon armor (looked really nice together) 

Also I noticed with those plugins enabled anywhere I saved out in the open world "Skyrim" area turned to "Unknown Location"... not sure what that's all about but when I disabled those 2 mods the saves out in Tamriel all say skyrim again lol..   

Could be my load order, idk.. it's getting up there with 140 plugins but  I have almost 400 hours on this save with little to no issues till today when I decided I wanted to check out Sanguine... needless to say disabled those 2, loaded into a save before I went on this little adventure and purged all the autos, quick saves, and a couple hard saves I made past that... The few hours I played tonight to see if things were stable ain't a big deal to lose.

Anyone had that happen before?

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, flux003 said:

Either Devious Devices or Sanguine does something weird to Dx Celes Nightingale hood where her hair doesn't show anymore under it.. I had another Daedric hood from I think Book of UNP that did the same thing then totally broke where I couldn't even equip it. Maybe it has something to do with the slot it uses because I could equip that and the circlet horns from DX Demon armor (looked really nice together) 

Also I noticed with those plugins enabled anywhere I saved out in the open world "Skyrim" area turned to "Unknown Location"... not sure what that's all about but when I disabled those 2 mods the saves out in Tamriel all say skyrim again lol..   

Could be my load order, idk.. it's getting up there with 140 plugins but  I have almost 400 hours on this save with little to no issues till today when I decided I wanted to check out Sanguine... needless to say disabled those 2, loaded into a save before I went on this little adventure and purged all the autos, quick saves, and a couple hard saves I made past that... The few hours I played tonight to see if things were stable ain't a big deal to lose.

Anyone had that happen before?

 

The DD device hider uses long hair slot 41. You could try disabling it. As a consequence, devices will no longer be hidden even when it would make sense for them to not show.

 

The unknown location is just a cosmetic issue. some areas are missing the location name. you could try regional save names to see if that fixes it. i don't recall if it does.

if it really bugs you before DBF fixes it and that mod doesn't fix it, it's an easy enough change to do with xedit.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/49698

[DeepBlueFrog]

20 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

The DD device hider uses long hair slot 41. You could try disabling it. As a consequence, devices will no longer be hidden even when it would make sense for them to not show.

 

The unknown location is just a cosmetic issue. some areas are missing the location name. you could try regional save names to see if that fixes it. i don't recall if it does.

if it really bugs you before DBF fixes it and that mod doesn't fix it, it's an easy enough change to do with xedit.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/49698

 

And even then, it will not fix region names for custom mods unless they fix that too.

 

I believe I fixed that issue in the next version of SD+. 

I got delayed releasing it but I am still working on getting all my mods out for SE.

[flux003]

46 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

The DD device hider uses long hair slot 41. You could try disabling it. As a consequence, devices will no longer be hidden even when it would make sense for them to not show.

 

The unknown location is just a cosmetic issue. some areas are missing the location name. you could try regional save names to see if that fixes it. i don't recall if it does.

if it really bugs you before DBF fixes it and that mod doesn't fix it, it's an easy enough change to do with xedit.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/49698

 

Hehe that "some locations" is the Tamriel location lol . Good to know about the armor slot, is that something on the MCM menu I can toggle? I recently did a few keyword edits with SSEEdit but idk if I'm ready to commit to learning more about the modding process.. all that brain power is going toward perfecting animating in Blender lol. 

 I'm still a bit weary because I am also unable to equip a piece of gear with the mod. The Daedric Hood Hair version from I'm guessing Book of UUNP.  It's a hood, looks much like Celes hood but different texture and it goes perfect with DX Demon  Cape.  I  attached a screen of it, maybe it'll ring a bell to someone. The horns and Cape are from DX Demon.

 

 

 

 

24 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

And even then, it will not fix region names for custom mods unless they fix that too.

 

I believe I fixed that issue in the next version of SD+. 

I got delayed releasing it but I am still working on getting all my mods out for SE.

Awesome. I wish Wish SD+ didn't require DD. Bondage is cool and all but I really don't need it everywhere around Tamriel, I like the idea of having a place to visit my favorite Daedric Prince, and it'd make sense to have it where he is.. idk, maybe I'll check it out again when ever that new version comes out.  I've wanted to check it out since Oldrim and just never got to.  Basically like a DD lite version or something that was contained with anything to do with the SD+.  I'm guessing there's way more to that than I think considering my inexperience lol. 

I went down this rabbit hole because I wanted to see the full extent of BaboDialogue, SLAP and SLHH In a quest to find some really great "seedy" location that those mods could sandbox in and so far all of them have had some issues or just straight broken. 

For example; Skoomatologist offers some really awesome locations but none of the NPCS that roam around the dens  have name tags and for some reason that breaks the dialogue/interaction. They approach but you can't progress any additional dialogue after the initial interaction.. also the visual effects of the Skooma variants doesn't work.. not sure what that's about, maybe conflict with CACO.. a forced drugging from it caused the effect but just drinking them doesn't, I'm assuming that's because it was a script injecting the effect rather than the effect being gained from using an item. idk. 

Then I came across  Dark Arena which also looked like it was going to be very promising but after digging through some of the posts on the support page it just looks like it's going to FUBAR something with the save corruption that spreads to older saves....  Not only that but The door for it is behind a Ratway Skooma den mod and CTDs every time I tried to go through it so I just took it as the gods protecting my saves and slowly backed away lol. I'd be fine with ditching Ratway Skooma Den but it's been in my game for about 100 hours and I've been very good about keeping the save clean of mods I tried and didn't want up until now, always hard saving before experimenting with new mods. 

Lastly thank you for the effort you're putting in DeepBlueFrog with converting and servicing all these gems. You as well zarantha with the support you offer. 


 

[zarantha]

10 minutes ago, flux003 said:

 Good to know about the armor slot, is that something on the MCM menu I can toggle? I recently did a few keyword edits with SSEEdit but idk if I'm ready to commit to learning more about the modding process.. all that brain power is going toward perfecting animating in Blender lol. 

 I'm still a bit weary because I am also unable to equip a piece of gear with the mod. The Daedric Hood Hair version from I'm guessing Book of UUNP.  It's a hood, looks much like Celes hood but different texture and it goes perfect with DX Demon  Cape.  I  attached a screen of it, maybe it'll ring a bell to someone. The horns and Cape are from DX Demon.

 

yes, the device hider option is in DD's MCM

 

I don't know that armor, but do you know if it uses slot 50? if so, change 3ba/bhunp's mcm to use DD compatible slot 60. Or check what devices you're wearing. it may be using a slot occupied by a DD. only one item can occupy a slot.

[flux003]

21 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

yes, the device hider option is in DD's MCM

 

I don't know that armor, but do you know if it uses slot 50? if so, change 3ba/bhunp's mcm to use DD compatible slot 60. Or check what devices you're wearing. it may be using a slot occupied by a DD. only one item can occupy a slot.

That's just it though..  no devices were being worn. I could equip the Daedric Hood for a moment, the character had a bald head, no hood visible, then when I unequipped it I could no longer equip it. 
 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Thanks for the comments.

 

I have been thinking about what to do with SD+ for a while, but all the solutions seem daunting at the moment and I am too distracted with the move to SE for now.

 

Options for the future include:

- A deep clean up and trimming of broken functionalities

- A complete rewrite and fresh start

- A separation of the core slavery mechanics, Sanguine's main quest + Dreamworld and DD mechanics into 3 mods working together

- A focus on fewer, better scripted slavery hubs in well defined places and a slavery lite for roaming

 

I am not saying I will do any of that... and I am not saying I won't either

[flux003]

34 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

yes, the device hider option is in DD's MCM

 

I don't know that armor, but do you know if it uses slot 50? if so, change 3ba/bhunp's mcm to use DD compatible slot 60. Or check what devices you're wearing. it may be using a slot occupied by a DD. only one item can occupy a slot.

Ok i got in game and looked, according to Sexlabs timers and stripping menu that Daedric Hood  Hair is equipped to Long Hair slot 41. Celes Nightingale Hood (Dragon's Tongue) is Slot 31.

I've attached a screen of the SSEEdit properties of the 2 items. 
 

[zarantha]

41 minutes ago, flux003 said:

Ok i got in game and looked, according to Sexlabs timers and stripping menu that Daedric Hood  Hair is equipped to Long Hair slot 41. Celes Nightingale Hood (Dragon's Tongue) is Slot 31.

I've attached a screen of the SSEEdit properties of the 2 items. 
 

 

The only slot DD uses out of those is 41/long hair. You'll need to look elsewhere for why you can't equip the hood.

https://github.com/DeviousDevices/Docs/wiki/Slot-Usage-Reference

 

But if it's making you bald, odds are it's equipped, but invisible. that could be a broken/missing mesh, or it could be a mod like equipment toggle hiding those slots.

[flux003]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

The only slot DD uses out of those is 41/long hair. You'll need to look elsewhere for why you can't equip the hood.

https://github.com/DeviousDevices/Docs/wiki/Slot-Usage-Reference

 

But if it's making you bald, odds are it's equipped, but invisible. that could be a broken/missing mesh, or it could be a mod like equipment toggle hiding those slots.

Yea idk, sure seems like it's related to one of them considering there's 400 hours on this save and I've been wearing this armor for about 300 of that without ever having any issues till DD and SD were added to the load, when I  removed them and loaded the save prior to adding them the issue went away.. .

Thing is it wouldn't even let me equip it with those mods running. 

 

 

Edited March 19, 2023 by flux003

[slave4life97]

Anyone had problems with SSE crashing when trying to enter the dream realm? Every time my game does, it crashes. I am using Nexus because I am a modding newb. I did it all in april of last year until I ran in to that snag and could never get it worked out. trying again to get it fixed and running

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, slave4life97 said:

Anyone had problems with SSE crashing when trying to enter the dream realm? Every time my game does, it crashes. I am using Nexus because I am a modding newb. I did it all in april of last year until I ran in to that snag and could never get it worked out. trying again to get it fixed and running

 

It was working in my tests for SD on SSE.

 

Things you can check:

- Install Zaz Animation Pack version 7 at least

- Devious Devices 5.1 or above

- Make sure to install the SE version from the SE conversion discussion thread (the main download is LE only)

[slave4life97]

22 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

It was working in my tests for SD on SSE.

 

Things you can check:

- Install Zaz Animation Pack version 7 at least

- Devious Devices 5.1 or above

- Make sure to install the SE version from the SE conversion discussion thread (the main download is LE only)

I've got the Zaz pack and DD, and I am fairly certain I have the right SD+ file. My current save game is in front of the shrine of sanguine, but anytime I sleep there or it tries to enter the realm, it still crashes. The file I have downloaded is the one from 01/31/2022. Am I just missing something?

 

Update: I download the SD resources pack and now its working. a minor bug though is now my mouse wheel wont register. It wants to go from the top to the bottom but there is no in between.

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by slave4life97

[logon121121]

hi i recently swiched to SE version and i dont know what im doing and hormones mod keep restarting like every time i turn it on it keeps being off and if i hold mcm menu open it turns on but the changes i make dont stay.

does anybady have a fix for this ?

im sorry for every mistakes english isn't my first language

[Omnishade]

Enslavement doesn't seem to work correctly. When I'm enslaved my gear isn't stolen. Only a few items after the owner has "inspected" my character. So I'm allowed to have weapons, armor and lockpicks that will make it easier to escape. Not sure if that's intended, and it wasn't like that in previous versions.

[DeepBlueFrog]

3 hours ago, RoninDog said:

Enslavement doesn't seem to work correctly. When I'm enslaved my gear isn't stolen. Only a few items after the owner has "inspected" my character. So I'm allowed to have weapons, armor and lockpicks that will make it easier to escape. Not sure if that's intended, and it wasn't like that in previous versions.

 

Your inventory should remain but your gold and weapons should go away.

I changer the system from removing everything because taking everything away was causing performance issues on large inventories.

Also because your master would want to use you as a pack mule and not carry all your stuff themselves.

 

The transformation of the mod is not complete yet but I am moving away from crippling constraints were you cannot do anything while enslaved to an enslavement where you receive constraints (chains, blindfold) only as punishment. The rest of the time your master would want you to remain productive for them.

If that means you can pick up a weapon, so be it.