Lykaios Reborn

[Blaze69]

3 hours ago, drzen said:

Got the femfeet model to work, not so much on the texture, the body only seems to have textures for the paws (femfeet was the humanoid feet included in the legacy version)

None of the body texture sets that made it to the final asset pack had human feet textures, they all had the paws instead, so I'm afraid there isn't much to do about it.

2 hours ago, FurgerBurger said:

Yes, I've been waiting for this for so long. Do you still need race compatibility? 

Yes, of course. No RC means no vampirism and lycanthropy, and some quests can bug out or get stuck (most notably one of the last Dark Brotherhood quests). That's why any properly built custom race requires RC.

[Bad Dog]

Added some NPCs, but the followers aren't actually following. Expect an update soon.

[kaldwin]

Hey, any chance you could make a patch for DD - beast race refits?  As far as I can tell, only gags have clipping issues.

 

Not sure how you feel about the bondage content on LL, but I figured it doesn't hurt to ask

 

[Bad Dog]

Meh, we're all pervs here.

 

I've hesitated because the chargen morphs mean that whatever you do is not likely to fit all characters well. But they'd fit better than doing nothing, so what they hey.

 

Tell you what, if you tell me how to get the pillory to show up I'll put this on the list. I have a bandit chained up in front of the Legacy museum (with ZaZ) but I can't figure out where the pillory model should come from.

[Yuni]

Is there no plantigrade feet for CBBE? I didn't download digi, but my CBBE gal has digigrade feet.

[kaldwin]

3 hours ago, Bad Dog said:

Tell you what, if you tell me how to get the pillory to show up I'll put this on the list. I have a bandit chained up in front of the Legacy museum (with ZaZ) but I can't figure out where the pillory model should come from.

I find that mods that use ZaZ are sometimes a little unstable, especially if they haven't been updated for a long time.  Not sure I can fix your problem, but I can at least help you trouble shoot.  Few questions first:

 

1)  What's the legacy museum?  when I googled it, all I found was the "legacy of the dragonborn" mod.  was that what you meant?

2)  What version of ZaZ are you using?  7, 8, 8+, HDT 8+?

3)  How did said bandit get chained up?  Did you manually place the pillory with console commands or a mod like ZaZ helper, or did a mod put it there for you?  Did you              defeat the bandit and put them in the pillory yourself, or did a mod put them there like a kinky decoration?  What mods, in general, that utilize ZaZ are you using?

[Blaze69]

4 hours ago, Bad Dog said:

Tell you what, if you tell me how to get the pillory to show up I'll put this on the list. I have a bandit chained up in front of the Legacy museum (with ZaZ) but I can't figure out where the pillory model should come from.

What mod did you use to chain them up? And what does "chained up" mean here? AFAIK pillories are furniture, so you would need either a plugin that places it where you want it (using the CK) or a mod that can dynamically spawn it on demand (which IIRC there should be some mod like that but I don't know which one it is).

 

EDIT: ninja'd by kaldwin, but their post is more informative, so that's cool.

 

And for the record, I do support that idea as well. Been thinking of doing a DD-related playthrough at some point in the not-so-distant future, but even with the Beast Race Refits mod I would still be restricted to felines only. Wouldn't mind having Lykaios/canine support as well.

1 hour ago, Yuni said:

Is there no plantigrade feet for CBBE? I didn't download digi, but my CBBE gal has digigrade feet.

Both plantigrade and digitigrade options use the exact same meshes, the only difference is the skeleton. If you were talking about something like Grimoa's Plantigrade Feet, i.e. human(ish) feet with claws/pawpads, then nope, there isn't such a thing.

[kaldwin]

50 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

Been thinking of doing a DD-related playthrough at some point in the not-so-distant future.  Wouldn't mind having Lykaios/canine support as well.

 

As Far as I can tell.  All DD stuff (that works with khajiits) works with lykaios, though I haven't tested it with DD for him.  Not sure exactly how race compatibility stuff works, but to my understanding, lykaios use khajiits as kind of a "base" race, which is why I see khajiit helmet models on lykaios.  There's enough similarities between khajiit and lakaios head meshes that blindfolds and most collars look fine, so patching beast race refits would probably be easier than making a new mod. 

 

The problem comes from the fact that Lykaios have longer and wider snouts than khajiits.  Also, their snout length can be adjusted quite a bit using the "chin forward" slider in the mouth section of the race menu.  Restrictive collars clip for long snouts, but not short and medium ones, so that should be an easy fix.  Gags will be kind of tricky.  Unless someone manages to build them in bodyslide, gags aren't going to fit everyone's snout length preference.  Best option is to model them on a character with all sliders set to neutral.  Ball gags will probably work for all snout lengths as long as the ball is the right size.  ring gags will look kind of funny on long and short snouts.  panel gags will defiantly look the worst on long and short snouts.  Pony gags are also do-able, but I can't remember if beast race refits changes them. (I don't use them)

[Blaze69]

2 minutes ago, kaldwin said:

As Far as I can tell.  All DD stuff (that works with khajiits) works with lykaios, though I haven't tested it with DD for him.  Not sure exactly how race compatibility stuff works, but to my understanding, lykaios use khajiits as kind of a "base" race, which is why I see khajiit helmet models on lykaios.

It's actually unrelated to the RaceCompatibility mod (if that's what you meant). Races just have a field in their data where you can set which (vanilla) race they "inherit" meshes from; in this case, that field is set to "Khajiit", so Lykaios always use the same meshes as Khajiit do.

 

Incidentally, this also means Khajiit and Lykaios will always use the same meshes, so there will always be one race that won't have fitting DD gear. Guess if such a patch is made you would still have to decide whether to install Lykaios-fitted meshes or Khajiit-fitted ones depending on your mod setup and intentions (e.g. if you play a Lykaios she-wolf and expect her to end up locked tight, it will make more sense to go for Lykaios meshes, and so on).

 

The alternative would be to use Yiffy Age, of course, in which case "Lykaios" are actually vanilla Nords as far as the game code knows, so you can change the device meshes used by Nords/humans to Lykaios-compatible ones while leaving Khajiits untouched. Something which I definitely will update the YA DD patch for if/when the meshes are done.

2 minutes ago, kaldwin said:

[...] patching beast race refits would probably be easier than making a new mod. 

Yep, that's the most feasible approach IMO. In fact the DD patch for YA is actually an edited version of the Beast Race Refits plugin that uses the Khajiit meshes for all races instead of only for Khajiits, there was no mesh work involved at all (from our end, I mean; it was all Skullered's work).

2 minutes ago, kaldwin said:

Best option is to model them on a character with have all sliders set to neutral. 

Agreed. You simply can't account for all the chargen sliders, so it's better to fit it to the base/all-sliders-at-0 head and just warn people about it. Maybe make it a bit loose (as loose as restraints can be, I mean) so there's a bit of room for non-extreme slider values, but that's it.

2 minutes ago, kaldwin said:

Pony gags are also do-able, but I can't remember if beast race refits changes them. (I don't use them)

AFAIK Beast Race Refits hasn't been updated in a while and it's missing some devices, either because they were missing when the mod was posted or because they were added in new versions of DD ever since. I dunno, Bad Dog may be willing to go the extra mile and edit all available DD headgear meshes, but it would take quite some time and work (even using the Beast Race Refits as a base to save some time), so I wouldn't keep my hopes up.

[Yuni]

I just meant human feet. o_o The last version of lykaios had non-digitgrade feet, and he said digitgrade feet were an option. Mine have digitgrade feet, and I didn't download the digitgrade feet option, just CBBE.

[Bad Dog]

54 minutes ago, Yuni said:

Mine have digitgrade feet, and I didn't download the digitgrade feet option, just CBBE.

I don't know how that could have happened. I did adjust the feet to the CBBE body which seems to be fractionally off from vanilla. I might have mucked something up, but dunno what.

 

2 hours ago, kaldwin said:

1)  What's the legacy museum?  when I googled it, all I found was the "legacy of the dragonborn" mod.  was that what you meant?

2)  What version of ZaZ are you using?  7, 8, 8+, HDT 8+?

3)  How did said bandit get chained up?  Did you manually place the pillory with console commands or a mod like ZaZ helper, or did a mod put it there for you?  Did you              defeat the bandit and put them in the pillory yourself, or did a mod put them there like a kinky decoration?  What mods, in general, that utilize ZaZ are you using?

Yeah, Legacy of the DB. I put a bandit in a sack using Defeat, dragged him home, and chained him up on the green in front of the museum to scare away potential thieves. (Note: Didn't work.) The various Defeat tying options seem to work and some devices show up--if I chain him from the ceiling I get a chain--but the pillory and armbinder doesn't.

[Blaze69]

30 minutes ago, Bad Dog said:

I put a bandit in a sack using Defeat, dragged him home, and chained him up on the green in front of the museum to scare away potential thieves. (Note: Didn't work.) The various Defeat tying options seem to work and some devices show up--if I chain him from the ceiling I get a chain--but the pillory and armbinder doesn't.

The ZaZ pack has gone through some updates since the last version of Defeat was released, and a lot of stuff has changed with the mod being taken up by someone else and the DD team deciding to remove it as a hard dependency and so on, so that may be why it's borked. I would look for a more up-to-date mod that can spawn a pillory (maybe that ZaZ Helper one?) and see if it works then.

[kaldwin]

2 hours ago, Bad Dog said:

I don't know how that could have happened. I did adjust the feet to the CBBE body which seems to be fractionally off from vanilla. I might have mucked something up, but dunno what.

Wait, I don't have digitgrade feet and my puppy's feet look like the screen shot.  I thought digitgrade just made her walk on tip-toe.  Was it supposed to change the foot model as well?

 

2 hours ago, Bad Dog said:

Yeah, Legacy of the DB. I put a bandit in a sack using Defeat, dragged him home, and chained him up on the green in front of the museum to scare away potential thieves. (Note: Didn't work.) The various Defeat tying options seem to work and some devices show up--if I chain him from the ceiling I get a chain--but the pillory and armbinder doesn't.

I'm not familiar with sexlab defeat, (I use deviously cursed loot) but according to it's page, it hasn't been updated in almost 3 years.  ZaZ 6 is still available on ZaZ 7's page.  You could try installing one of them and see if it makes a difference, but I'd recommend finding a more up to date mod.  Here's a few suggestions.  None of these will let you capture defeated enemies, but you might be able to chain them up using one of these mods instead of using defeat's built in mechanics. 

 

ZaZ helper is a little tedious, but let's you place and use every piece of furniture ZaZ has to offer.  Puppet master gives you a lot of control over NPCs, but is older than defeat and doesn't have many ZAZ poses.  Personalty, I use I'll take the display model.  It's the easiest to use, it adds some furniture that you can't get anywhere else, It lets you tie up any non-hostile NPC, it lets you tie up yourself, and it lets you craft furniture at the forge to place and pick up again.  Hell, half the time, I lock an NPC in something because they mover around too much and I'm tired of tracking them down

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[Sutsiua]

In what order do I install each and do I overwrite anything? Ty for your hard work!

[kaldwin]

2 minutes ago, Sutsiua said:

In what order do I install each and do I overwrite anything? Ty for your hard work!

a direct quote form the download page:

 

 

"Installation

 

Just download the files and install the ones you want in this order:

1. Lykaios_Reborn - Base mod, requires RaceCompatibility. SFW: Bodies are vanilla with underwear unless you have a replacer loaded. Works with the UNP female body. 
2. Lykaios_Digi - Digitigrade feet, if you like that better. (I do.) These feet don't fit into boots so don't try--the wolfies will just take them off again.
3. Lykaios_Schlongs - Hoodie schlongs. Requires SOS and RCAE if you want spells and potions to work. 
4. Lykaios_HDT_Tails - Requires an HDT setup. Tails are subject to stretching and the occasional invisible character. Try them and keep them if you like them.
5. Lykaios_NPCs - If you want furry followers. Find them just east of the Alchemist's Shack or at the Vilemyr Inn in the evenings.
6. Lykaios_CBBE - If you use that body."

[Sutsiua]

Well it all works for me except for the physics, I'd rather not overwrite my personal xml if I can help it

[kaldwin]

11 hours ago, Sutsiua said:

Well it all works for me except for the physics, I'd rather not overwrite my personal xml if I can help it

Yeah, I never bother with HDT tails.  The only way to reduce stretching, clipping, and general wonky physics to acceptable levels is to find a version of HDT physics that uses really low force values.  That's fine for male characters, but it gives female characters a disappointingly modest level of butt jiggle.  Overall, not worth it in my opinion

[Bad Dog]

Uploaded new files with fixes to the NPCs so they'll actually be followers. They show up in clothes but have armor in their inventory--swap something with them and they'll put it on.

 

I tried out CBBE with and without digi feet and it seems to be working properly. Anyone else having trouble with them? I think it's cruft in your install. (Like something, maybe one of my mods, overwrote your beast skeleton with the digi version.)

[RedGhost55]

Quick question, will you adding the anthro schlong to females or only keep it for males?

[lonelywm]

Add vagina textures to cbbe body.

\textures\actors\character\00lykaiosracetextures\lykaios female textures

Cosio_Body.7z

[Blaze69]

On 4/11/2019 at 9:27 PM, Yuni said:

I just meant human feet. o_o The last version of lykaios had non-digitgrade feet, and he said digitgrade feet were an option. Mine have digitgrade feet, and I didn't download the digitgrade feet option, just CBBE.

Forgot to get back to this, sorry for the late reply.

 

Nope, there's no human feet option for CBBE, just the paws. The UNP version of the mod does have some placeholder textures that fit human feet meshes, but the feet UV is different between CBBE and UUNP, so those won't work.

[Bad Dog]

On 4/12/2019 at 12:31 PM, RedGhost55 said:

Quick question, will you adding the anthro schlong to females or only keep it for males?

Hoodies has a full set for all (human, khajiit, argonian) races but I've never done the textures for the beast races. On my list but not a high priority.

[werewolfshadows]

Would there be any known reason why the schlong addon would cause major issues with female chest havok? With the addon active armor function is dead and non-armor is really bugged out. Thanks

[rb888]

Thankyou Bad Dog your pawsome

[J4nek]

Oh wow, i never thought i would see this released. Thanks so much.