Lupine00 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 When defeated by SD+ Cages Badass Bandits in Fort Greenwall. Â Everything went dark, then game came back... Â I was in the prison area, downstairs, where the spiders can be found. Not locked in a cell or anything, just in the corridor. There were no bandits around. The spiders were all dead, as I'd killed them earlier. My follower was with me, and acting normally. My health and stamina seemed normal. Â I simply walked out of the prison, looted the bandits and killed the last one. Â Is this supposed to happen like this? Â Â Also, I will repeatedly see "addictions" from DiD showing up, such as "Whore" though I haven't been defeated, and have no trauma. There don't seem to be any debuffs, just inconsequential effects listed in my effects list. Link to comment
Celedhring Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, wtzzty said: I tried to increase the perversions value by different ways,but the sex perversion always in zero, it seems like normal sex cannot increase this value, how to increase it? Have a mob defeat you and stay captive while your captor uses you..if you want to speed up the process, leave the cell or kill him and rinse and repeat because the time between rapes to increase your perversion level can take a while (you can speed through with the wait button)  If you have FMEA, tick on the harvesting thing to 100 percent tentacle attack to contribute towards the tentacle trauma. I'd pick a cell with lots of mushrooms and plants where your captor is and pick them to trigger the tentacle attacks. Link to comment
hyper15 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Kira shadowstep said: Might there be a way to remove the soft dependencies from the mod ourselves? I have sexlab adventures which has a soft dependency for Devious Devices Integration and I really really would rather not install DD mods. Thanks for all the work you're putting into this mod by the way Code Serpent. I've used Sexlab Adventures before without having DD as a soft dependence and it's worked just fine. And having uses this mod before, I can assure you it doesn't need DD either, you just wont get the options to have yourself put into chastity belts or your mouth gagged or arms bound. Link to comment
Kira shadowstep Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, hyper15 said: I've used Sexlab Adventures before without having DD as a soft dependence and it's worked just fine. And having uses this mod before, I can assure you it doesn't need DD either, you just wont get the options to have yourself put into chastity belts or your mouth gagged or arms bound. Thanks Hyper15. I was referencing what Code Serpent had said regarding when two mods with soft dependencies look for a mod that isn't present causing the later mod to crash. Link to comment
hyper15 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 50 minutes ago, Kira shadowstep said: Thanks Hyper15. I was referencing what Code Serpent had said regarding when two mods with soft dependencies look for a mod that isn't present causing the later mod to crash. There are some mods that do require their soft dependancies, its a bug of sorts, for example POP requires DDEquip. But if you ever encounter that bug, all you need is the mod installed but not active and it should solve that issue. Link to comment
Code Serpent Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Lupine00 said: Is this supposed to happen like this? No, it definitely shouldn't. And I really have no idea why all of these really odd scenarios keep happening. Link to comment
Grom424 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Did anyone mix this mod with Devious Mindbreak? Any guess on what would happen? I can't really phantom it they will go really great together or it will just be a mess. Link to comment
rjn Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I, like a few others here, had trouble getting the MCM menu to show up with the mod start. I tried many things including installing alone after all else was setup and working, but no success.  However, I did get it to install after I edited my skyrim.ini file to give papyrus scripts a little more room to execute. Maybe it's a useful bit of info?  <changed or added to skyrim.ini in the [Papyrus] section>  fUpdateBudgetMS=1.6 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.6 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=1000  Link to comment
DonQuiWho Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 12:26 PM, donkeywho said: @Code Serpent  I really like the simplicity of this mod and the potential you have given yourself to expand on it further  I have two queries that could use your help, please  ONE  What is supposed to happen/will happen in a combat with Bounty Hunters?  I had the POP ones set about my PC yesterday, and the combat was interminable... knocked down, bleedout (or so it seemed), and 'zap!', the health bar instantly returned to 100% - even after all health potions/food/etc had been auto used up - at which point combat started again as if from scratch. Only way of stopping it was a 'manual' POP surrender   TWO  Is 'auto surrender' supposed to be selected as a single 'defeat' with only 'Bleedout' option checked, with the other three options 'unchecked'? I thought that those three basics options were supposed to calculate a 'chance' of surrender, but if 'auto surrender' was checked it is just supposed 'to happen' ' 'auto surrender is checked, is it supposed to 'just happen' with the 'bleedout' option only, or all 4 'checkable' defeat options?  I have ticked all 4 options and I find that not all combats will definitely end in surrender on bleedout, ie auto seems to be bypassed sometimes  And if I'm doing it wrong, and 'auto surrender is supposed to be used on its own, will/should it activate an auto surrender to each of the three classes of enemy covered by the other three options, ie the non bleedout ones?  TIA for any help you (or anyone else) can provide Sorry. made a mess of the original Q. Slightly better version above ?  Any help/advice would be appreciated Link to comment
Lupine00 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Code Serpent said: 22 hours ago, Lupine00 said: Is this supposed to happen like this? No, it definitely shouldn't. And I really have no idea why all of these really odd scenarios keep happening. I wondered if you were attempting some sort of "find a prison location" type behaviour, and it was locating the cells area. Â Â The ability to use SD Cages with DiD would be ... interesting ... Â The cages have markers, and locks (usually master level), so if you can find a matching marker in the current cell, a cage is available. Â The obvious thing is to put a defeated PC in the cage, and leave them alone, with a chance to escape from it, before an NPC shows up, opens the cage and violates them. Fading back from black, and being inside the cage would be pretty cool, even if it didn't add much gameplay. Â But cages could also be used to imprison defeated followers, which is probably more practical. Reminds me of that mod ... Caged Followers ... which was interesting, but somewhat unfinished. Link to comment
sneakysnake Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Seems to be a slight issue regarding the defeat mechanics and multiple factions. Two instances I encounted was 1) Trying to escape from a troll when a group of bandits aggroed and defeated by character. While the bandits gathered to initiate the scene, the troll was no longer aggressive and just walked off. Bit immersion breaking. 2) Luring a bandit out of a fort where there were Stormcloak in the area. Despite having aggroed the Stormcloaks, the bandit ignored them once I auto-surrendered and proceed to start a scene, and before the scene can even start the Stormcloaks killed the bandit, breaking the scene. Â The only other problem I have is getting defeated by a single enemy can lead them to do multiple scenes. He must have a lot of stamina to keep going~ Â Otherwise, I really like this mod and look forward to any improvements you can make to this mod. 1 Link to comment
Church the Cat Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 A couple issues that I've encountered. First being the priority, is roughly a fifth of the time after a rape scene completes, the game locks up to the point that I have to Ctrl+Alt+Del to close it. The other minor issue is my followers will switch back to the "downed" animation during a sex scene while the aggressor pumps the air. Other than that, I'm enjoying this. Link to comment
Code Serpent Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 hours ago, donkeywho said: Sorry. made a mess of the original Q. Slightly better version above ?  Any help/advice would be appreciated All defeat options work independently. Manual Surrencer, Auto-Surrender, and Bleedout Surrender can all be activate and can all independently trigger given the right scenario. Link to comment
Code Serpent Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 hours ago, Lupine00 said: I wondered if you were attempting some sort of "find a prison location" type behaviour, and it was locating the cells area. That's what happened, the mod tries to find markers with the CaptiveMarker ref type attached. That part I wasn't worried about. I was worried about why neither your character or your follower wasn't in shock, and why the bandit that defeated you wasn't following you. Link to comment
Code Serpent Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Mancubus said: roughly a fifth of the time after a rape scene completes, the game locks up to the point that I have to Ctrl+Alt+Del to close it Send me a papyrus log. Link to comment
Code Serpent Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 9:41 PM, Lupine00 said: I will repeatedly see "addictions" from DiD showing up, such as "Whore" though I haven't been defeated, The 'Whore' effect is determined purely by your Arousal and Time Rate from SexLab Aroused. It's not affected by trauma.  That effect doesn't debuff you constantly, instead it might trigger forced dialogue or forced masturbation. 1 Link to comment
Lupine00 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Code Serpent said: That's what happened, the mod tries to find markers with the CaptiveMarker ref type attached. That part I wasn't worried about. I was worried about why neither your character or your follower wasn't in shock, and why the bandit that defeated you wasn't following you. I'm guessing that if the bandit had been there, and the spiders had been alive, they would not have been friends. Greenwall is probably a bit of a special case for this, but it's also a common spot for early game defeats due to its accessibility, and the frequent use of bandit-buffing mods. Valtheim Towers would fall in the same category, but doesn't have a dungeon infested with hostile-to-bandits spiders. Link to comment
Lupine00 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Code Serpent said: That effect doesn't debuff you constantly, instead it might trigger forced dialogue or forced masturbation. Ah, that's where those masturbations were coming from. 1 Link to comment
DonQuiWho Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 42 minutes ago, Code Serpent said: All defeat options work independently. Manual Surrencer, Auto-Surrender, and Bleedout Surrender can all be activate and can all independently trigger given the right scenario. Thanks for that. I'll see how things go. So far, it's been fun ?  And I appreciate your taking time to answer what was certainly not my best ever attempt at setting out a question ?  On a slight tangent, when defeated, is there any specific order/rules inherent to your mod as to how/which restraints are applied, and from which mods they get taken?  I'm asking because on one defeat, the console screen info shows that PC's equipped items included DD restraints from both DDi and also the, now taken down, Whiterun Brothel Revamped mods. I struggled to work out how the item from the WB mod got legitimately removed, as the thread has completely vanished - solved it OK eventually - but it would be good to know what assets might potentially get lifted from where.  I also have my suspicions that a DD Asset from Inte's DDEquip mod got applied at an earlier point in this, fairly newish, game, but I can't be absolutely certain that this mod was responsible ?  Any info on this would be helpful, so as to know what to look out for Link to comment
Code Serpent Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, donkeywho said: On a slight tangent, when defeated, is there any specific order/rules inherent to your mod as to how/which restraints are applied, and from which mods they get taken? I use DDi's tag system. So, the mod tries to look up devices with appropriate tags. If none are present, then it chooses random ones. Installing Devious Devices Expansion should provide all the devices that this mod needs, and stop it from equipping random devices from other mods. Link to comment
DonQuiWho Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Code Serpent said: I use DDi's tag system. So, the mod tries to look up devices with appropriate tags. If none are present, then it chooses random ones. Installing Devious Devices Expansion should provide all the devices that this mod needs, and stop it from equipping random devices from other mods. Thanks for that  FWIW, I do have DDe loaded (as in always and forever!) and DD assets from other mods still appeared even then, so DinDistress may actually be boldly going where it has not been thought to go before ?  Hope that's of some help, anyway  EDIT: Just played through Embershard again and before I reached the baddies, I got hit by one of Whiterun Brothel's pesky 'invisible Slooty Ninjas', which added a whole heap of stuff on to my PC, incl the WB assets that I had encountered before, seemingly after a DinDistress encounter. I now think the two mods were activating at about the same time, and the applied assets were probably coming from an 'unseen' WB encounter and not the DinDistress event/actors ? So apologies for any possibly misleading comments  And thanks for the mod. It seems to work just fine. Getting out of Embershard while togged up in a catsuit, rubber mask, blindfoldm armbinder and chained ankle shackles really tested my inventiveness. You have got some really evil captors. And the one following me sneaking out even managed to jump the gap when I raised the drawbridge, to see if that would stop her ...  ? Link to comment
CynicalCore Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Is there a NON DD soft denpendency version planned? i know it would be a lot of work but... yeah dont wanna install DD, its just not my Kink (to each his own, right?) and i have already ZAZ wich use 1000 fnis slots. dont wanna go higher with my fnisload and risk a unstable skyrim Link to comment
hyper15 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Â Is there a NON DD soft denpendency version planned? i know it would be a lot of work but... yeah dont wanna install DD, its just not my Kink (to each his own, right?) and i have already ZAZ wich use 1000 fnis slots. dont wanna go higher with my fnisload and risk a unstable skyrim You shouldnt have to worry about the soft dependancy for DD, I had this kod all working purrfectly fine without having any DD installed at all. Link to comment
CynicalCore Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 well i solved the problem with the not showing MCM/not starting... simply installed DD and all the stuff start a game, DiD starts and shows up in the MCM. Saved, removed DD and load the save again, DiD still shows up and works fine. 1 Link to comment
LoveEternally Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I'm having a weird issue. Whenever I've got my arms restrained (tested with manacles, shackles and armbinder) and get defeated, this mod only plays solo animations (masturbation, dwemer machine or tentacle). I can't really figure out what's causing it. I've tested initiating sex encounters with other mods like TDF prostitution, and it's able to play all animations even when arms are bound. Link to comment
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