galgat Posted August 1, 2013 Author Posted August 1, 2013 So I am having a rather large amount of difficulty with the quest on the siren island where you have to gather the dog and horse essences. The love grease works on an animal but then trying to go back to the same animal does not cause that animal to initiate sex with my character. As far as I can find there is only one island pony and so I have no choice but to go back to the same animal but I have been playing for 1.5 hours and I have only managed to get the pony to initiate sex with my character 3 times. The animal will eventually rape the character but it is erratic as to when it will actually happen when I approach the animal. That being said if there something that I am missing then if someone could point me the right direction that would be appreciated OR if someone could simply let me know what the base id numbers are for the dog and horse essence then that would save me a lot of time as well. EDIT: I went to Dirty Bay and found some more horses but they would not initialize sex either. I have repeatably washed off the grease and added it again with no effect. it is possible that you have a token stuck, sometimes after animal sex they do not get removed. On the first page I pointed this bug out..Here is the Text from the doc file, and the first page of this thread. "One bug I know of, sometimes there is a token (Grrr. this Bitch is mine)I place on the Player during sex acts that can get stuck there.. if that happens you could just throw it away, but that tends to make a lot of clutter in your game. I set up a fail safe, just go swimming until you see Grrr this bitch is mine removed. this is also the way you will remove some of the pheromone creams you might get from your body as well.But they are intended to be removed this way." Maybe that will help you. That may not be your problem, but it is one that does happen. If that does fix the problem, you will have to re apply the Lust slave to continue with the Laborious task of allowing the animals to use you.
galgat Posted August 1, 2013 Author Posted August 1, 2013 Also I Uploaded a new ver today, just a few fixes, and a minor addition.. Here is the insert to the doc file What's New in Version 1.03.6E (See full changelog)
SirDoom Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Great mod so far,however I have a slight problem.Some female characters seem to have no hair.Is there a specific custom hair pack that I need to use in order to fix his?
galgat Posted August 2, 2013 Author Posted August 2, 2013 Great mod so far,however I have a slight problem.Some female characters seem to have no hair.Is there a specific custom hair pack that I need to use in order to fix his? this is something missing in your MBP installation I would bet. I think this is version I used, May have to translate page, I might have it translated with this link http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://shigure24.blog84.fc2.com/blog-entry-21.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DOblivion%2BMBP1.4a%26start%3D10%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Drox%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D758 That link may not give a good download, but will at least give you information as to what version I am running. But you may have that .98 version installed, It should work but may be missing some of the hair styles that I have with my version. I would post My version, but it is to large, and I have no place to upload it. Be sure you have Chocolate Elves.esp installed they are needed. And also is needed Cute Elves.esp they should have been installed with the full Install MBP, but some MBP are missing them I will post My load order as it is righ now you might see what you are missing, by looking at my load order. Masters for: fishTailTesting.ess 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 x117race.esm 03 Lovers with PK.esm 04 LoversCreature.esm 05 BreakUndies.esm 06 Crowded Bruma.esp 07 Crowded Cheydinhal.esp 08 Crowded Skingrad.esp 09 AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp 0A Crowded Chorrol.esp 0B DLCFrostcrag.esp 0C playble_armors.esp 0D KT_CustomRaceFix.esp >This fix for Dialog missing, Is in unofficial Patch, But I don't use that 0E DLCHorseArmor.esp 0F Tag_Armorseller.esp 10 DLCOrrery.esp 11 DLCThievesDen.esp 12 DLCVileLair.esp 13 DLCSpellTomes.esp 14 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 15 Knights.esp 16 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 17 babehair_EV.esp > this might be something you are missing 18 Finder4.esp 19 ExWearUndies.esp 1A Vampiress Armors For Exnem Body.esp 1B Rosana.esp 1C Seductress Armour.esp 1D ExnemEyeCandy.esp 1E BlackLuster.esp 1F CTAddPose_OTPair.esp 20 Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp 21 Colourwheels Sexy SI Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp 22 Colourwheels Sexy Hentais DarkRose.esp 23 ColourWheelSexyFemaleNPCRealWalk.esp 24 TagsYinYang.esp 25 FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp 26 Chain it!.esp 27 Streamline 3.1.esp 28 LoversLight.esp 29 LoversBed.esp 2A RealWalk.esp 2B LoversSlaveTrader05.esp 2C LoversPayBanditgalgat.esp 2D LoversRaperSgalgat02.esp 2E LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp 2F LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp 30 CrowningIsleWorkingOn.esp 31 LoversGalgatBlackmail.esp 32 AirOC04 Vat.esp 33 SetBody.esp 34 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp 35 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 36 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 37 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 38 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 39 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp 3A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp 3B Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp 3C Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 3D Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp 3E x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp 3F Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp 40 Real_Mannequin.esp 41 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] 42 LoversCreature.esp 43 LoversMB2.esp 44 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp 45 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 46 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 47 Lovers3dorgasm.esp I hope something I posted helps you
SirDoom Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 @galgat: Well I installed the version of MBP that you indicated but the game crashes to desktop while loading a savegame so i had to revert back to the .98 version.Any ideas? Here is my current load order(by the way I have no idea if this is all right as I know almost nothing about modding and computer programming in general): Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm BreakUndies.esm KT_CustomRaceFix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp babehair_EV.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp Beautiful People.esp Knights.esp IDKRRR_C_race.esp Slof's Boners! v5.esp Ren_Soya_KD's.esp Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Demon Hunter.esp Shrridan.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.69.esp ZazMLPG.esp LoversCrowningIsle.esp CuteElf11.esp CuteElf11 Blue Portal Bug-Fix Patch.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
gregathit Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 No, your load order is not ok. Either rework it to match the one Galgat gave or use the load order in the spoiler here as a guide: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/
SirDoom Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 No, your load order is not ok. Either rework it to match the one Galgat gave or use the load order in the spoiler here as a guide: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ Well after doing a fresh clean install of MBB and MBB++ and rearrangeing my load order I manged to get it to work just fine. I thank both you and Galgat for your advice.
windu190 Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 After I have completed the spider quest, the gag stayed and everytime I try to get it off I get: "You cannot unequip this item". Anyone know how to get it off? I assume you did not use "setstage" anywhere to move ahead fast or anything. Yes I did unfortunately, I assume that might have broken it. The reason I did this is because the quest wouldn't advance, I was 'pregnant' but had been waiting for more than a week but nothing happened. So I used the setstage command to advance. I guess I'll try the quest again, this time without the setstage command.
galgat Posted August 3, 2013 Author Posted August 3, 2013 After I have completed the spider quest, the gag stayed and everytime I try to get it off I get: "You cannot unequip this item". Anyone know how to get it off? I assume you did not use "setstage" anywhere to move ahead fast or anything. Yes I did unfortunately, I assume that might have broken it. The reason I did this is because the quest wouldn't advance, I was 'pregnant' but had been waiting for more than a week but nothing happened. So I used the setstage command to advance. I guess I'll try the quest again, this time without the setstage command. I will try to get that to happen, as I get time to replay that mission, I have trouble fixing problems if i can not myself get them to happen.. So don't think I am not wanting to help.. It is just hard to fix something that ...for me is not breaking. The dean basement problem was one like that, I never could make it happen until recently. Once I saw it I knew what to do to fix it [ Or at least limit the chances of it happening ]. But making it happen for me was the key. The gag will not come off normally until you have the Birth. which I guess is not happening for you. I do not know how often I checked the variable on the spider birth, after it was born, which with out it's natural, [ Or un natural ] Birth...Stage setting might cause problems. Thing is I may set a stage, and that can advance the quest, but I may check something that happened in that Quest, not the stage at other time's, and if they are not there to give the right number. Then things just do not advance. I have used setstage too in mods where I decided I was hung up... and i do not blame you, but this makes for troubles that are very hard for me to help you with. ******************************** and to SirDoom I am sorry for your trouble, MBP is a pain, and load order is critical. But I am very glad you got it straightened Out.
galgat Posted August 3, 2013 Author Posted August 3, 2013 On another note, I finally came up with a way I liked to get sitting people to stand up, so you can have sex with them, and posted it today, on the download page, It is just the Updated ESP. I never liked the normal way people do it, I knew how, I just never liked it, I studied the Oblivion functions until I found a new way to do it. I feel pretty good about it. Here is the doc, from the download page. ******************************************************************************************************** LoversCrowningIsle.esp Patch 1.06F Version [ This is only the ESP You still need The tail update, and 1.6E full download ] ******************************************************************************************************** 1. Tweaked a few things, Minor Stuff 2. I always ment to give you the ability to ask sitting Patrons if they wanted sex, and then have them stand up, and ask you what you wanted. I know how to do it, but I refused to do the Make a token, make a follow package, get everything in order, and hope the package changed right, and the token was not left on the NPC, and then hope the Package got removed. That is the standard bullshit way most people do it. I wanted to do it simpler, and smoother. I think I have managed that, I am still tweaking it, but it seems solid, and I wanted to send it your way. This is not a needed, or have to have Patch if you are okay like it is, but I think it will make some event's seem more natural. Now if you ask a sitting NPC if they want sex, they of course say, wait a moment, they stand up, but unlike most where you click them again, these go right ahead, and ask you "what is it you wanted". then you tell them your request. I know simular things have been done, but My way does not need a package, nor does it need a token. and so far in all my tests It has been very smooth. I will stream line it more latter, but for now it is ready to test some. It will be no problem to have them know once they stand up what you wanted and you won't have to tell them a second time, but I wanted some more testing first, before I devote a lot of coding time to it I have found some AI with Bad AI routines that do not want to stand, but only once, and it was from someone Else's Mod, not standard Oblivion AI's so far It has done very well for me, and I wanted to share it, for your testing, and see how it goes. Sorry to have to use you all as sometime's beta testers, but I am only one very small person, and It is hard to catch everything. I have not tested it with Horse riders, and I doubt it will work with them, at this time, but so far sitting NPC have worked very well. Installing :: Install the 1.6E which has all textures, Meshes, Sound, and what not in it, and the "SirenTailUpdate", and then Just replace the existing LoversCrowningIsle.esp with this one. ****************Edited******************* I can confirm Horse riders do not work, but when I get time it will be a simple fix. I was not concerned about horse riders when did it.
SirDoom Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 I think I run into a bug. When I go to id's plane a second time the speaker chick that is supposed to give me my next mission has the I have no greeting error but she worked fine the first time..Is there any way that I can fix this so I can advance the story? Later Edit: Never mind ignore my first statement I figured it out and was able to finish the quest but I can't figure out what to do next.I can't seem to find the gypsy dremora mentioned in other posts.Is she supposed to appear near that goblin mine?Also I still have the gluttonny bay quest in y journal after escaping the slaver's dungeon,is this normal or it's my own stupidity at fault for not being able to figure out the quest?
galgat Posted August 3, 2013 Author Posted August 3, 2013 It is in this thread, some where, But You don't even need to go back to {id} domain a second time, at least not at this time, Only the first time, after Johnny, and Reginas Dad are no more, there is no point in going back. { Nicky is the only thing I left up in the air, for some thing more latter on, if I get time.} I may add something to that in the furure, but Not at this time. I assume you have done the farmer, mission, so Love armor No.9 is mostly all that is left for you. If you have done the morbious Mission also. And the little starter mission in gluttony bay with the slavers, the GodChild you picked up there is something I had in mind to lead you back to {id} domain, maybe... I have optional Idea's on all of that, and have not made up my mind yet.
SirDoom Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 It is in this thread, some where, But You don't even need to go back to {id} domain a second time, at least not at this time, Only the first time, after Johnny, and Reginas Dad are no more, there is no point in going back. { Nicky is the only thing I left up in the air, for some thing more latter on, if I get time.} I may add something to that in the furure, but Not at this time. I assume you have done the farmer, mission, so Love armor No.9 is mostly all that is left for you. If you have done the morbious Mission also. And the little starter mission in gluttony bay with the slavers, the GodChild you picked up there is something I had in mind to lead you back to {id} domain, maybe... I have optional Idea's on all of that, and have not made up my mind yet. Yes the farmer(the one that enslaves you and sells you to the pimp girl's father) and mobious missions are done but I just can't seem to find the Love Armor quest giver.I have looked near the Carloft home as you instructed in an earlier post but I can't find her.Is she supposed to appear near the goblin infested mine(carloft mine)?If so she didn't spawn for me and i have waited about 5 ingame days/
galgat Posted August 3, 2013 Author Posted August 3, 2013 Don't know why galgat didn't upload it here. I just recently realized that Ashal had increased the file size to 100 Meg. Why I was using UPloadMB is because when I started this mod well over 3 years ago, his Upload area was only like 12 meg, and I could not Upload it here because it was much larger than that. Only like 2 or 3 days ago I uploaded to Ashals sight Three of my LoversPK mods, I just do not have time right now to hunt them all down the others and move them. This has been translated into many languages, but with my updating I am sure those translations are a bit behind. Here are some post Numbers from this thread to common problems some people have. #510 is explain where to change chance of sell or pimp player in script when using "a Make Me a Slave Spell" #446 Is about number of tricks needed to start school. #428 posts Is about No dialog, after Shivering Isle Teleport to Main OB area. #388 posts is about Some NPC not able to have sex.early in game like school mates, and such #354 Has a Spoiler that explains {id} domain and how only one visit needed. At this time.. I do intend to expand, but will be awhile. #207 a little more spoiler about the {id} domain #229 for people having trouble finding the Howling #335 About the long Laborious Goblin shake Ordeal, Remember F1 brings up the Faction Menu This was I think the first fully English made RPG for LoverPK, Most everything else was translated from Russian, or Japanese [ In fact I translated many of the Early one's myself, and much of my Translations are still seen in many of the modified one's you may be playing ], but this one, I made. It has been an on going project of mine for quite awhile. I hope to continue it, if not taunted to much for my fat finger mistakes. I do the best I can, and much of that is with trial, and error.
galgat Posted August 5, 2013 Author Posted August 5, 2013 It is in this thread, some where, But You don't even need to go back to {id} domain a second time, at least not at this time, Only the first time, after Johnny, and Reginas Dad are no more, there is no point in going back. { Nicky is the only thing I left up in the air, for some thing more latter on, if I get time.} I may add something to that in the furure, but Not at this time. I assume you have done the farmer, mission, so Love armor No.9 is mostly all that is left for you. If you have done the morbious Mission also. And the little starter mission in gluttony bay with the slavers, the GodChild you picked up there is something I had in mind to lead you back to {id} domain, maybe... I have optional Idea's on all of that, and have not made up my mind yet. Yes the farmer(the one that enslaves you and sells you to the pimp girl's father) and mobious missions are done but I just can't seem to find the Love Armor quest giver.I have looked near the Carloft home as you instructed in an earlier post but I can't find her.Is she supposed to appear near the goblin infested mine(carloft mine)?If so she didn't spawn for me and i have waited about 5 ingame days/ make sure you have completely finished the Pimp mission quest, have you returned to booty to see if Regina made it there okay, and talked to regine, while you were at bootys place ? your last Quest update should have finished "A whore to be pimped" Quest. it should no longer be and active quest. you should have to go to the finished missions area to find it. Here is the last entry in "A Whore to be Pimped" Well, I was wondering why a daughter would strip her father's corpse..LOL.. Regina truely does have kind heart.. selling it all, and giving it to the poor. She seems some what better, I am sure hanging around ditzy booty probably helped with that.. I Hope she continues to look out for the Ladies here at S.O.A.P. I am sure they can use her assistance. THIS IS AS FAR AS THE PIMP QUEST LINE GOES AT THIS TIME>>GALGAT. Talking to Regina the final time at Bootys alchemical Lab is where this quest is finished, and she must be in the Alchemical lab for you to get the finishing dialog from her. The reason I ask this is that if it is not your last entry then you have not finished the "A Whore to be Pimped" Quest, and the gypsy Lady will not appear. She will be in a little Pit area where you may have noticed a locked door while roaming around the island. Just be for you get to Carloft's place. on the left side of the road. She is not able to avoid appearing [ That quest entry I put in spoiler is stage 122 ] provided that you have completed the "A Whore to be Pimped" Quest you should have that entry, and the Gypsy has to appear. the very first few line's of her script [ The script is on her ] is really not possible for it to fail. if getstage xloversggbondagesex < 122 ; keep Gypsy hidden till ready return else if doonce == 0 enable set doonce to 1 endif endif So unless somehow some thing is conflicting, I do not see how she can not appear, unless you have something in your quest line some where that has made you unable to finish the "A Whore to be Pimped" Quest. There are Variables, and things that are set along the way that must also add up for this event to happen. Please I know I ask this a lot, but I hope you did not use setstage, or I am wasting time trying to help.
SirDoom Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 @galgat: Thank you very much for your help,but I managed to finish the gypsy quest a short time after I posted the message asking for your help.The whore to be pimped quest was properly finish in my journal without the use of setstage.It seems I just had to wait a few more ingame days and she appeared.Perhaps it was a matter of the script firing a little late for me,I dunno exactly what happened but it sorted itself out.I appolagize for the late reply but I was a little busy these past 2 days. Anyway this was an amazing mod and I will definitely follow any further development on this.Now I'm off to play your LoversBlackmail mod
Havick1988 Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 This seems like a decent mod for the most part, though I feel that I should add a bit of criticism towards the part of the Dialogue. I don't know if its a problem for anyone else but to me most of the dialogue in this mod just seems rather for lack of a better word silly. Silly to the point one would want to cringe, while it uses proper structure for communication, there's just allot of slang thrown into it. While not inherently a bad thing it just doesn't flow well with the rest of things. Its like for example you take a stereotypical american and throw them into a foreign country and they don't try to assimilate to that countries procedures (This was just an example) The Dialogue just doesn't seem to mesh well with the environment of the game, It comes off as Alien and as mentioned before cringe inducing Silly. Its not wrong in the sense of you cant do that wrong, just wrong in the sense that it just doesn't fit right. much like putting a shoe on the wrong foot. It will work but it wont be comfortable. If that was intentional then by all means disregard this, I am not one wishing to step on toes just wished to provide some constructive criticism to the mod as i see it has potential when complete. (realized I had posted this in the wrong forum so I moved it here and deleted the other post in the wrong place)
JSmith20142 Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 Havick, you may wish to bear in mind that not all contributors are native English speakers (in fact, with the Lovers mods, very few of the original contributors are). Are you 'silly' because your German isn't that great?
galgat Posted August 5, 2013 Author Posted August 5, 2013 @galgat: Thank you very much for your help,but I managed to finish the gypsy quest a short time after I posted the message asking for your help.The whore to be pimped quest was properly finish in my journal without the use of setstage.It seems I just had to wait a few more ingame days and she appeared.Perhaps it was a matter of the script firing a little late for me,I dunno exactly what happened but it sorted itself out.I appolagize for the late reply but I was a little busy these past 2 days. Anyway this was an amazing mod and I will definitely follow any further development on this.Now I'm off to play your LoversBlackmail mod Glad you finished it, I was actually a little late with a response.. But am happy you got it done. This seems like a decent mod for the most part, though I feel that I should add a bit of criticism towards the part of the Dialogue. I don't know if its a problem for anyone else but to me most of the dialogue in this mod just seems rather for lack of a better word silly. Silly to the point one would want to cringe, while it uses proper structure for communication, there's just allot of slang thrown into it. While not inherently a bad thing it just doesn't flow well with the rest of things. Its like for example you take a stereotypical american and throw them into a foreign country and they don't try to assimilate to that countries procedures (This was just an example) The Dialogue just doesn't seem to mesh well with the environment of the game, It comes off as Alien and as mentioned before cringe inducing Silly. Its not wrong in the sense of you cant do that wrong, just wrong in the sense that it just doesn't fit right. much like putting a shoe on the wrong foot. It will work but it wont be comfortable. If that was intentional then by all means disregard this, I am not one wishing to step on toes just wished to provide some constructive criticism to the mod as i see it has potential when complete. (realized I had posted this in the wrong forum so I moved it here and deleted the other post in the wrong place) Oh I am Eglish speaking, How be it very bad English, I am sorry if you do not like any dialog I placed in My Mod. It is free, and I guess I probably do take many liberties, as I do not and never intended to keep it totally Lore friendly. But I understand your, Desire that everything should always be as you like it. I just have to mod how I feel at the time.
Havick1988 Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 I do understand that many of this community are not individuals whom having English as their first or possibly second language. I do understand as well that English itself is a difficult language. but that wasn't my point on my post. As i critiqued the sentence structures worked, and had the proper use of words. that wasn't the problem as with many translations are missing something to make it flow right but as I said this wasn't the case. I was referring to how the dialog used was alien in nature to the game. It worked but it was silly not in the silly sense of a translation silly, in the sense of its correct but doesn't fit the environment surrounding it silly. That's why I made mention that it was a cringe inducing kind of silly. German -> English (will use that example because its the language sample you offered) would result in something being translated to the likes of: In Gesprächen haben solche Wendungen durchaus Sinn -to- In Discussions have such applications thoroughly sense (for the more literal translations) or what i see more often than naught -> In such Discussions applications thoroughly have sense. Both of those work but can be viewed as someone who is not a native speaker making the translation which more correctly for american English (as its the English i'm most familiar with) It would be most correct as translated to -> In discussions such applications make sense all of those are correct and work some are more correct than others though. that's not the case of what I'm bringing up here though. When i said the dialog was alien in nature to the environment it was in the case that It did not fit, and came off like the kind of sexual humor i see from young teens. while not entirely wrong for what is going on here It just doesn't seem to be quite right to be coming from a "view able" adults mouth in the game. That was the point I was trying to get across, and anyone can feel free to tell me to shut up about this If it was intended to be that way for the mod (this is after all only my opinion on the fact), I only wish to provide some positive criticism to help better this mod. Oh I am Eglish speaking, How be it very bad English, I am sorry if you do not like any dialog I placed in My Mod. It is free, and I guess I probably do take many liberties, as I do not and never intended to keep it totally Lore friendly. But I understand your, Desire that everything should always be as you like it. I just have to mod how I feel at the time. I don't know if that's completely correct on the desire bit. but that's immaterial, I do understand your view for not keeping it cannon and that doesn't bother me. as I said on wished to provide friendly constructive criticism to help you make the best thing you can. I was merely stating my opinion on how the character dialogue just doesn't quite fit the mouths of the NPC's and the PC speaking it. but as I had said above i'm not wishing to step on any toes or be argumentative and have no problem being "this is how I meant it to be so SFTU" (maybe not quite like that but i think you get the point) I respect your views on your work and while I may not agree with everything there Its allot better than I can do as I cant even figure out how to rotate something on the render screen of the CSE to begin making one of the mods I would like to make.
galgat Posted August 5, 2013 Author Posted August 5, 2013 I do understand that many of this community are not individuals whom having English as their first or possibly second language. I do understand as well that English itself is a difficult language. but that wasn't my point on my post. As i critiqued the sentence structures worked, and had the proper use of words. that wasn't the problem as with many translations are missing something to make it flow right but as I said this wasn't the case. I was referring to how the dialog used was alien in nature to the game. It worked but it was silly not in the silly sense of a translation silly, in the sense of its correct but doesn't fit the environment surrounding it silly. That's why I made mention that it was a cringe inducing kind of silly. German -> English (will use that example because its the language sample you offered) would result in something being translated to the likes of: In Gesprächen haben solche Wendungen durchaus Sinn -to- In Discussions have such applications thoroughly sense (for the more literal translations) or what i see more often than naught -> In such Discussions applications thoroughly have sense. Both of those work but can be viewed as someone who is not a native speaker making the translation which more correctly for american English (as its the English i'm most familiar with) It would be most correct as translated to -> In discussions such applications make sense all of those are correct and work some are more correct than others though. that's not the case of what I'm bringing up here though. When i said the dialog was alien in nature to the environment it was in the case that It did not fit, and came off like the kind of sexual humor i see from young teens. while not entirely wrong for what is going on here It just doesn't seem to be quite right to be coming from a "view able" adults mouth in the game. That was the point I was trying to get across, and anyone can feel free to tell me to shut up about this If it was intended to be that way for the mod (this is after all only my opinion on the fact), I only wish to provide some positive criticism to help better this mod. Oh I am Eglish speaking, How be it very bad English, I am sorry if you do not like any dialog I placed in My Mod. It is free, and I guess I probably do take many liberties, as I do not and never intended to keep it totally Lore friendly. But I understand your, Desire that everything should always be as you like it. I just have to mod how I feel at the time. I don't know if that's completely correct on the desire bit. but that's immaterial, I do understand your view for not keeping it cannon and that doesn't bother me. as I said on wished to provide friendly constructive criticism to help you make the best thing you can. I was merely stating my opinion on how the character dialogue just doesn't quite fit the mouths of the NPC's and the PC speaking it. but as I had said above i'm not wishing to step on any toes or be argumentative and have no problem being "this is how I meant it to be so SFTU" (maybe not quite like that but i think you get the point) I respect your views on your work and while I may not agree with everything there Its allot better than I can do as I cant even figure out how to rotate something on the render screen of the CSE to begin making one of the mods I would like to make. Just so you know everything in this mod was made by me, there is no translation. It is all mine. I have no problem with your desire for the perfect mod, I just make what Feels right to me. I encourage every one here to try there hand at making there own mod. Then they can produce exactly what they want. And I do know there are many typo's in my dialog, when one swaps from scripting to animation or Photoshop, and then to blender then back to the game, and types in a little dialog to move the Quest forward, and then goes back to photoshop, or Blender, or scripting, then add's another item needed for the game, and goes back to dialog, and adds something more to move the quest foward. It is hard to keep everything perfect. I am only one very small person, and I do the best I can, to share what I make, with those that actually wish to spend some time playing with it. I charge nothing, and want nothing, but maybe once in a while some one might say thank you, or that they enjoyed it.
squarehippo Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Both Crowning Isle and Blackmail were awesome. Enjoyed finishing both. Thanks for sharing your work, galgat .
4rchy12 Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 First of all: thanks for continuing/improving this mod, its one of my favorites. Can someone please help me in one thing... I didnt play this mod for a long time (old version) and it seems that i cant trigger the goblin quest. Now i wonder if it was removed with the update (?). If not, please help me how to trigger it. Thanks ... and keep up the good work
galgat Posted August 6, 2013 Author Posted August 6, 2013 First of all: thanks for continuing/improving this mod, its one of my favorites. Can someone please help me in one thing... I didnt play this mod for a long time (old version) and it seems that i cant trigger the goblin quest. Now i wonder if it was removed with the update (?). If not, please help me how to trigger it. Thanks ... and keep up the good work 1. Have you gotten the Goblin shake quest from the siren Queen yet ? 2. This would be gotten after you did her first quest about the dog's and horses. 3. And of course after you have made it to the Siren Island. which would be after you had gotten the infromation from the pirates, for booty, and that would not be do-able until you have made the trip to sea with the pirates. Both Crowning Isle and Blackmail were awesome. Enjoyed finishing both. Thanks for sharing your work, galgat . I am glad you managed to finish them, and Hope you had fun with them.
4rchy12 Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Thanks, Galgat. I thought the goblin quest is from booty, too.
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