Pork Type Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 With Windows 7, I can: -Successfully ctrl-alt-delete out of a crashed game .exe and recover to my desktop. (With Windows 10 I have to sign out of my user session entirely in order to recover) With Windows 7, I can: -Browse the contents of a zipped file (mostly) without having to unzip it (text files, image files, etc.) With Windows 7, I can: -Add content to the Library section of Windows Media Player, and therefore render it playable on my Smart TV. With Windows 10, I can: -Do none of the above. And my brother in law had the ironic audacity to defend Windows 10 by not wanting to be "a luddite." Wew.
Zor2k13 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 They just released another borked update for windows 7 that screws up your license saying it is not genuine even though it is.
Ereadur Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Windows Vista was and still is the best operating system the end user ever had.....The main problem was your security settings being too good for the lazy developers...They all bleated about it but no one made the effort..If proof were needed look at the compatibility settings in win 7,..they all say vista!!!!...It was only the security which was to the benefit of all except the developers that everyone with little education whinged about...And so the best secure operating system was consigned to the bin with no one really knowing why,..other than media hype and misinformation.......It reminds me of the old Betamax VHS farce.The superior system lost out because rental companies adopted the latter...and yes the public followed without question,..because someone said so!!!
Celedhring Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Don't forget permissions in Windows 10 are a bitch to deal with especially when you want to delete/add folders like installing Skyrim from a USB stick. It's MUCH easier in Windows 7.
Celedhring Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 58 minutes ago, Alkpaz said: Here I thought the porn industry lead the charge for VHS being a standard over Beta. There were way more VHS players than Betamax, period. That's why VHS became the industry standard until DVD's came along. I think fondly of "Re-Animator" and "Sorority Babes and the Bowl-o-rama from Hell" and "Chainsaw Hookers" that I rented from local video stores in the San Fernando Valley. That's right...the home of the porn industry of the USA. ? Although the titles I cited aren't pornos...but over the top B-movies.
Celedhring Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 On 11/19/2018 at 1:46 PM, Lucion66 said: lol loved 3.11 I could network computers ! I remember putting together a x86 computer and selling it for 300 bucks with a VGA monitor thrown in. That thing wouldn't run anything made today. I did play the shit out of Pool of Radiance on that computer though although I did lose my saves I had on a 5 1/4 floppy drive. I had to learn how to do DOS commands from the c:// prompts. Good times. And the Ultima games were the shit back then. Bard's Tale too.
Pork Type Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Ereadur said: It reminds me of the old Betamax VHS farce.The superior system lost out because rental companies adopted the latter...and yes the public followed without question,..because someone said so!!! No, the "superior" system lost out because Capitalism. VHS was an industry-wide, agreed upon standard while Betamax was proprietary, with all of the attendant license fees, royalties, etc... Sony's stupid ploy to be the king of the whole damn thing and rake in the bux failed. Until... Blu-Ray. --> http://www.one-blue.com/press/2/panasonic-philips-and-sony-to-establish-one-stop-shop-product-license-for-blu-ray-disctm
Celedhring Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Pork Type said: No, the "superior" system lost out because Capitalism. VHS was an industry-wide, agreed upon standard while Betamax was proprietary, with all of the attendant license fees, royalties, etc... Sony's stupid ploy to be the king of the whole damn thing and rake in the bux failed. Until... Blu-Ray. --> http://www.one-blue.com/press/2/panasonic-philips-and-sony-to-establish-one-stop-shop-product-license-for-blu-ray-disctm Not unlike what Microsoft and Apple did respectively... That's why Windows is the dominant OS today because they didn't go the proprietary route like Apple did.
Shiori栞 Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 My friend said Win 7 updates are already done. Can't verify, only know that's what he said. That said, he got a virus so bad he needed to wipe his entire drive. I suspect would not have happened on Win 10. The only thing good about Win 10 is it is so new, so creeps who upload viruses don't yet know the entire code like the back of their hand. Literally the only good thing about Win 10 though, and this seems to apply to the MS devs too, since they don't seem to know how to operate their own OS. Maybe if they got rid of the mountains of useless bloatware on the dam OS it would be easier to use. Even basic stuff doesn't work well anymore. I tried to make a batch to shut my comp down by clicking it, and it simply wouldn't work. Pretty sad. I had Origin installed to a custom folder, but on that drive, it kept trying to add a Program Files (x86) folder regardless, so I deleted it, but it kept coming back, so I locked that folder so nothing could be created, and Windows 10 took full ownership of that entire drive, so nothing could be added to that drive, as I no longer had "permission". My Steam is on that drive. What that means is, no more modding. A mod is an outside file, and I did not have permission to add anything to that drive... So, I went through some hell and took full ownership back the annoying way, which means I had to do this to every folder on the drive, and now I know never to lock a folder on Windows 10 again. I now have a Program Files (x86) folder on my E drive, whether I like it or not. fffff*** you Micro$oft.
Elsalovescocaine Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 thanks for this xd I were thinking in to revamp old SSD with a new 1tb version, But were planning to Install Win10 x64, Now guess going to install win 8 X64 UEFI or better or old Win 7 x64 UEFI
Reginald_001 Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 1:05 AM, Grey Cloud said: Oh those nasty Microsoft people. It's not like banks, credit companies, mobile phone companies or any other capitalist organisation would do anything like that is it? What data are MS supposed to be stealing anyway? From the windows 10 privacy settings thread: Quote By default, through several services, Microsoft sends data about how you use your computer to their servers. Your OS creates a unique ID tailored to your machine. This telemetry is sent via the ID of your machine, not coupled with your IP. That makes VPN's useless, sites visited while using a VPN will still be known by MS. Regardless of what you do, MS's services such as the Network Inspection Monitor, the SmartScreen service, Windows Defender, Windows Firewall and the Windows Search Service will collect data on: What you type in any program and which websites you visit. A detailed log of your location is kept and maintained for later analysis. Biometric data about you and the people using your device is stored and analyzed. Any file or application that Windows Defender deems 'dangerous' is sent in it's ENTIRETY to Windows Cloud services for further analysis, in fact many virus applications (including those for other OS'es) do this as well. What MS has confirmed to be mining: Biometric data Samples of voice and pronunciation of certain words; samples of handwriting (via handwriting input); text samples (typed in any application). Geolocation data Current location; locations history including temporary location marks. Technical data Information on equipment including ID numbers of the devices; information on networks joined both wireless and by cable; telemetric data; data from any built-in sensors. Behavioral analysis Web search history; visited websites log; Windows startup and shut down time; startup and shutdown time of every application. Purchasing activity Applications downloaded from Windows Store; clicking on contextual ads; clicking on personalized ads. The list can go on although the above is quite enough for our research. Running ahead, I should mention that not all the accusations against Windows 10 were proven true. For example, Czech news portal AE News claimed that OS sends images from the webcam to the Microsoft servers. Whereas during our test once we connected the webcam, the system only installed the drivers. We have detected no irrelevant or unauthorized actions with the camera at all. Here you can find the complete list of what Microsoft collects, and the chilling technical proof and background.https://hackmag.com/security/what-data-windows-10-sends-to-microsoft-and-how-to-make-it-stop/
Grey Cloud Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Reginald_001 said: From the windows 10 privacy settings thread: So what's new? Microsoft has been accused of this since day 1 of dial-up Internet connections. And my point that this sort of activity is not restricted to Microsoft stands. If it bothers you that much then don't use Microsoft products.
Reginald_001 Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: So what's new? Microsoft has been accused of this since day 1 of dial-up Internet connections. And my point that this sort of activity is not restricted to Microsoft stands. If it bothers you that much then don't use Microsoft products. Nothing is new, you asked a question, I gave an answer. This is what you wrote: Quote What data are MS supposed to be stealing anyway? I gave you the answer. I did the homework for you. I found sources, links, data and information. How nice is that? You're welcome.
Grey Cloud Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Reginald_001 said: I did the homework for you. I found sources, links, data and information. No you didn't, as I said all that has been common knowledge for years. It is common practise for all capitalist enterprises.
Reginald_001 Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: No you didn't, as I said all that has been common knowledge for years. It is common practise for all capitalist enterprises. You're just being indecent and combative, have fun and good luck with that. Don't bother to reply. I put all such posters on my ignore list as I'm very, very tired, and way too old to spend time on people that can't even find a proper way to conduct themselves online.
Grey Cloud Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 Sorry for daring to contradict you. So you are old; so am I.
bigBoi4U Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 This thread seems to have so many people bitching about Microsoft not supporting a decade old system even though they have the longest support life of any OS. Windows 10 is fine, you babies.
tejano2828 Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 Running Windows 7 Ultimate here on all my machines do not wish to even go near Windows 10...thank you
Pork Type Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 4:36 PM, bigBoi4U said: This thread seems to have so many people bitching about Microsoft not supporting a decade old system even though they have the longest support life of any OS. Windows 10 is fine, you babies. What's this about a "decade old system?" You do realize that windows 10 is Windows 7 with a shit ton of dumbing down and datamining, Yes? There's been no real overhaul of the core OS since Vista. Am I a pissbaby because I want things to not arbitrarily stop working? I think not
saviliana Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 16 hours ago, Pork Type said: What's this about a "decade old system?" You do realize that windows 10 is Windows 7 with a shit ton of dumbing down and datamining, Yes? There's been no real overhaul of the core OS since Vista. Am I a pissbaby because I want things to not arbitrarily stop working? I think not Well, to be fair, Win8 and 8.1 was a mobile convert OS, form CE, which is NT-server based. But 10, is just an ME with mobile skin coverup.
t.ara Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 Some "new drivers" are conflicting with Creation-Kit and Skyrim-which is indeed no surprise-old software is of course made on an older system with different older other drivers....blindly updating a system is causing troubles-at least has every software their suiting OS recommendations. Newer versions but do not take care of older software. It´s indeed not possible to keep software of the past and new made stuff working on one system, specially in future. If even win 10 is working with Skyrim (if!), you may get into troubles, if it comes to the graphic-card drivers, specially for the Creation Kit. You may not find out any differences at once, but the change from the older GPU drivers to the win 10 compatible-ones is causing simply crashes within the Creation-Kit. This is only one point of disaster, which is caused ONLY by bravely updating the GPU-driver.
Zonixa Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 I would prefer that MS would dump everything and go back to 98SE..
MadMansGun Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Zonixa said: I would prefer that MS would dump everything and go back to 98SE.. well maybe not that far, but at least Win2000 or Server 2003.
BlueShinobi Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Windows 7 is basically Vista SP2. Microsoft just decided that Vista's brand image was completely FUBAR, so they made a "new OS" which was literally the exact thing people were already using with a few modifications like removing the charms. Vista started out horrible, and MS slowly fixed it. Windows 7 really is just Vista. Windows 10 started out a lot better than Vista. And much like Vista, it improved over time. I used Win 10 in beta - and went back to Windows 7. Windows 10 was decent, but I wasn't loving it. By the time 2020 has rolled around Windows 10 will be a completely adequate replacement for Windows 7. I'd say it already is, but there's no strong reason to upgrade just yet. Lots of people stuck with XP for ages as well. Then they moved on to Vista(by another name) without much issue. The same will happen here. There's some pain for being an early OS adopter. Those problems aren't really there in 2020. Everyone will be just fine.
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