Slaverun Reloaded SE Beta

[belegost]

On 4/17/2024 at 3:47 PM, Gudulba said:

I also encountered this "walking away" issue. Usually the workaround was to constantly use "moveto player".

 

I wonder if AI overhaul mods like AI Overhaul or Immersive Citizens could cause such behaviour?

 

Very late reply, but in short: no.

The issue occurs regardless whether you have or not those two mods installed. How do I know? I use neither.

 

It appears to be problem within Slaverun itself. I have played through a good chunk of the mod since last time I posted, and on multiple characters and it actually gets better after you complete your training and especially those overly long, boring, badly written dialogue sections. In fact, they each run for so long, that any character involved will at some point suffer from this behaviour. I even had to turn off needs mods otherwise my characters would either starve or freeze during some of them. Once you are properly enslaved and trained and Pike unleashes you upon Skyrim, the mod becomes somewhat enjoyable and less prone to bugging out.

 

However I eventually ditched it entirely because the constantly repeating sex scenes got so stale, I just kept spamming "end animation" in SexLab every time it happened, just to progress forward. It could really use a serious re-write and streamlining, especially said dialogue sections and triggers for sex scenes, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.

I can't believe I'm saying that but there is just too much sex in this mod and too little everything else in comparison. The progress is so slow due to that, I never completed the story line before I got so bored and annoyed I gave up.

[Raven 54]

I could never get the MCM to show up, started new game, downloaded Apachii hair, had the rest of the required mods, except my ZAZ is newer than 7 which is what it required.

Any ideas??? 

Skyrim SE 1.5.97  Vortex

[wayandean]

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

I could never get the MCM to show up, started new game, downloaded Apachii hair, had the rest of the required mods, except my ZAZ is newer than 7 which is what it required.

Any ideas??? 

Skyrim SE 1.5.97  Vortex

Use MO2

[Raven 54]

8 minutes ago, wayandean said:

Use MO2

That was Not Helpful, you think I am going to move all my games, all my mods to another Mod Manager for one that isn't working?! Pfft

[pinky6225]

15 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

I could never get the MCM to show up, started new game, downloaded Apachii hair, had the rest of the required mods, except my ZAZ is newer than 7 which is what it required.

Any ideas??? 

Skyrim SE 1.5.97  Vortex

 

Never used Slaverun ver 3 tbh as it was never completed so i still play with Slaverun ver 2 i ported but anyways, the ver 3 foreward says you need

 

- it has new requirements, the Hearthfire DLC, version 4.0 of the Devious Device Integration and Devous Device Expansion Framework, also version 8.0 of ZAZ Animation Framework which will be checked when the mod is starting

 

So when you say you have higher than version 7 how much higher we talking?

 

Just to check as well, did you try the good ole setStage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1 command on the console?

 

 

[Raven 54]

37 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

 

Just to check as well, did you try the good ole setStage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1 command on the console?

Did not know to do the setstsage, zaz 7 rev, zaz anim 8.0, slaverun rel 3. 0 Beta SE

Thank You so much I will try that, I have all the requirements you listed.

If it still won't show up then it has to be something I am doing wrong, or a conflict maybe...don't know as I never had an MCM not show up before.  

[wayandean]

6 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

That was Not Helpful, you think I am going to move all my games, all my mods to another Mod Manager for one that isn't working?! Pfft

Apologies, I wasn't trying to be rude, I've read previously that many MODs don't work with Vortex. I actually run MODs for Baulders Gate 3 with Vortex and the ModManager. Not sure if that's possible for Skyrim.

[pinky6225]

22 minutes ago, Raven 54 said:

Did not know to do the setstsage, zaz 7 rev, zaz anim 8.0, slaverun rel 3. 0 Beta SE

Thank You so much I will try that, I have all the requirements you listed.

If it still won't show up then it has to be something I am doing wrong, or a conflict maybe...don't know as I never had an MCM not show up before.  

 

Might be wrong (long time since i installed all this stuff now) but i believe zaz anim 8 contains the stuff from 7 so you don't need zaz 7 revision (actual file on the download page) just the ones further down in the mod description , doubt its related to you MCM issue though (worth a try if its still not working i suppose)

 

 

From https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5957-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/

 

 

[Raven 54]

6 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

doubt its related to you MCM issue though (worth a try if its still not working i suppose)

I just ran the SS, no luck.

 

I am Old as well as not very knowledgeable so when I originally downloaded ZAZ I got to the page you linked, it looked like I needed 7, then overwrite with ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023 which I have already, so delete 7 ???

Edited November 23, 2024 by Raven 54

[Raven 54]

30 minutes ago, wayandean said:

Apologies, I wasn't trying to be rude, I've read previously that many MODs don't work with Vortex. I actually run MODs for Baulders Gate 3 with Vortex and the ModManager. Not sure if that's possible for Skyrim.

Well I was trying to be polite, but failed I guess, I thought you might have been one of the Vortex Haters...You have my most sincere Apology as well.

Never had an MCM not show up, at my age and skill level or lack thereof Vortex has been real easy to use once one learns it a bit and I have read that MO2 Takes a fair amount of skill to manage. That is why I started with Vortex.

Never used or owned a computer before the big shutdown of 2020, I am 70 now.

Again Sorry and thanks for trying to help.

Edited November 23, 2024 by Raven 54

[pinky6225]

11 minutes ago, Raven 54 said:

I just ran the SS, no luck.

 

I am Old as well as not very knowledgeable so when I originally downloaded ZAZ I got to the page you linked, it looked like I needed 7, then overwrite with ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023 which I have already, so delete 7 ???

 

I look to have only the Zaz 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023 and then a patch from page 20 called ZAZ 8+ CBBE HDT REV3 Resource Patch v1

 

 

So i'd disable Version 7 and get that patch if you don't have and install that (overwriting if asked)

 

I look to have other zaz related stuff i must have found on LL so ignore the ones you arent using, my rules are...

 

Then load in, scroll up and down the MCM a few times, close it wait about a minute and if still nothing shows up try the setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1 on the console to give it a kick

 

Its worth noting (as i think i recall seeing you in the fallout 4 section of LL) that the skyrim MCM isn't as quick as fallout 4 so can take awhile to show up

[Raven 54]

3 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

(as i think i recall seeing you in the fallout 4 section of LL)

Yes, yes indeed you did.

I thank you very much for the help!

If this does not work, if, I searched for v2 and could not get any results, ideas??

[Raven 54]

4 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

on the console to give it a kick

Well turns out I was at fault...go figure. Anyway I still can't use it as when starting up there is a warning box...Requires Devious Devices Integration 4.1 or 4.2 & I am on 5.2 can't even find any earlier versions so after I hit Ok it said shutting down.

So that is that, I wanted to thank You for assisting me, kind of you. 

[pinky6225]

29 minutes ago, Raven 54 said:

Well turns out I was at fault...go figure. Anyway I still can't use it as when starting up there is a warning box...Requires Devious Devices Integration 4.1 or 4.2 & I am on 5.2 can't even find any earlier versions so after I hit Ok it said shutting down.

So that is that, I wanted to thank You for assisting me, kind of you. 

 

Nymra posted a fix for that

 

 

[Raven 54]

2 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

Nymra posted a fix for that

I saw this fix but did not look to work with my Versions of Skyrim SE & DD.

Thanks.

[Raven 54]

On 11/23/2024 at 11:52 AM, pinky6225 said:

Nymra posted a fix for that

Well it turns out that patch did work...   

I have a question about a setstage...

I am doing this quest  4400 20 Fresh meat (SLV_CatchingBlake)

When the 4 men start whacking the women with canes, they hit each other which rag dolls some of them then they get up and leave Dragonsreach.

prid moveto player brings them back but they walk to the door and leave again, 3 npc's ( not counting Balgruf ) that have to be involved or the scene/quest won't advance.

How do you look up the stage to know how to advance the scene using the quest id??

 

4100 Tasks
4200 18 Premium slave carriage services (SLV_MainquestSpecial05)
4300 19 Training Jane (SLV_CatchingJane2)
4400 20 Fresh meat (SLV_CatchingBlake)
4500 21 Family completion (SLV_CatchingHeike)
4600 22 Bring slavery to Markarth (SLV_MarkarthSlavery)
Make an old orc happy (SLV_MarkarthOrcSmith)
Is Dibella a slave slut (SLV_MarkarthDibellaSlaves)

 

 

EDIT; posted question here as well.  https://www.loverslab.com/topic/241459-how-do-you-get-setstages-from-a-quest-id/

 

Edited November 25, 2024 by Raven 54

[pinky6225]

21 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

Well it turns out that patch did work...   

I have a question about a setstage...

I am doing this quest  4400 20 Fresh meat (SLV_CatchingBlake)

When the 4 men start whacking the women with canes, they hit each other which rag dolls some of them then they get up and leave Dragonsreach.

prid moveto player brings them back but they walk to the door and leave again, 3 npc's ( not counting Balgruf ) that have to be involved or the scene/quest won't advance.

How do you look up the stage to know how to advance the scene using the quest id??

 

4100 Tasks
4200 18 Premium slave carriage services (SLV_MainquestSpecial05)
4300 19 Training Jane (SLV_CatchingJane2)
4400 20 Fresh meat (SLV_CatchingBlake)
4500 21 Family completion (SLV_CatchingHeike)
4600 22 Bring slavery to Markarth (SLV_MarkarthSlavery)
Make an old orc happy (SLV_MarkarthOrcSmith)
Is Dibella a slave slut (SLV_MarkarthDibellaSlaves)

 

 

EDIT; posted question here as well.  https://www.loverslab.com/topic/241459-how-do-you-get-setstages-from-a-quest-id/

 

 

Don't know i'm afraid although i think there is a option in the MCM to skip a scene so you could load a save from before, tick that on for that scene and then go through it and tick off

[Raven 54]

1 hour ago, pinky6225 said:

Don't know i'm afraid although i think there is a option in the MCM to skip a scene so you could load a save from before, tick that on for that scene and then go through it and tick off

I tried that ten times but it kept breaking at the exact same place every time.

Got it figured out, I am quoting @Psalam here.... ( "type in player.sqs QuestID (using the actual QuestID) and hit enter. The list of stages will then be listed (sqs is short for show quest stages)." )    

Then the Console shows all stages for that quest, it also shows which stages are completed so you know the next in line is where you are.

Fairly simple but I have seen too many posts about bugs increasing exponentially using setstage. I have only used them while playing "Nuka Ride" by JB. and only when he said to as he usually provided the fix to type in. I have never used them on Skyrim SE until now. 

If interested in the topic see this link.    https://www.loverslab.com/topic/241459-how-do-you-get-setstages-from-a-quest-id-solved/#comment-6880851

 

 

[Psalam]

Let me go on record about using setstage. First, no one (in their right mind) uses setstage when their Quest is working properly. So, when your game fouls up after using setstage was it because of using setstage or was it because the Quest/Game was already fouling up and your need to use setstage was simply a symptom of the bigger problem?

 

I've used setstage a lot. Mostly I've used it in mods that have glitched (like Slaverun). I have used it in the base game when that glitched. I have found that, for the most part, it works well (with the proviso mentioned in the first paragraph). When I've used it I have made a conscious decision that I am going to use this "cheat" because if I don't I'm going to quit this current game anyway (therefore I have nothing to lose). So, when everything works out I'm quite happy and when it doesn't well, that's life (or perhaps that's Bugthesda might be more appropriate).

 

When using setstage in game here is what I do:

 

1) open the Console (that's the tilde (~) key on an English language keyboard),

2) (optional) type sqt (show quest targets) and hit enter (this provides a list of all currently active quests; you will likely need to use the PgUp and PgDown keys to scroll to find the QuestID that you want; most modmakers make their QuestIDs reasonably obvious),

3) type player.sqs QuestID (typing in the actual QuestID such as MG01) and hit enter (this will give you a list of every stage in the Quest and whether they have already been performed (these are followed by a "1") or not (followed by a "0").

4) advance the stage as desired (be careful with this one, many Quests have multiple options and these show up on the list; you do not necessarily want the next stage listed from sqs (although it's a fairly safe bet with most mods) by typing setstage QuestID XX (QuestID is, as always, the actual QuestID and XX is the stage to which you want to advance - usually the first one with a "0" following it) and hitting enter,

5) close the console by hitting the tilde key.

 

More information on the Console (including how to access it on a non-English keyboard) can be found here:

 

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console

[Raven 54]

@belegost @pinky6225 @Psalam

I am working building the Colosseum, Master Jaha from the gladiators quarters sent me to the college of Winterhold to "Search for a mage Carefully", I have looked everywhere including the area underneath the College, talked to everyone but no dialogue appears. The instructions are to be discreet and don't let the Archmage find out (my words) about this.

I have not found anyone to tell me what comes next or how to find this "Mage".

I am using The Magical College of Winterhold mod  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1539

Could this be a conflict? There is no Quest ID in the list for this part, I would like to find this Mage naturally, do any of you have any advice for me??

Thank You very much for any help.

 

 

The closest I could find in the quest ID is....  9100 Tasks

[belegost]

3 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

@belegost @pinky6225 @Psalam

I am working building the Colosseum, Master Jaha from the gladiators quarters sent me to the college of Winterhold to "Search for a mage Carefully", I have looked everywhere including the area underneath the College, talked to everyone but no dialogue appears. The instructions are to be discreet and don't let the Archmage find out (my words) about this.

I have not found anyone to tell me what comes next or how to find this "Mage".

I am using The Magical College of Winterhold mod  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1539

Could this be a conflict? There is no Quest ID in the list for this part, I would like to find this Mage naturally, do any of you have any advice for me??

Thank You very much for any help.

 

 

The closest I could find in the quest ID is....  9100 Tasks

 

I don't know. Frankly I don't even know what you're talking about, I never got that far in what I assume is some sort of questline after the slave training. The mod has WAY too much sex and relies on it too much to be interesting in the long term. It was fun for a while, but it overstayed its welcome, especially with the issues it had during dialogue scenes. I never met this Master Jaha.

Apparently I need to re-evaluate my previous statement of having played through a good chunk of it. Probably felt like that because of having to constantly stare at SL animations every 5 minutes or so. Farthest I got was completing slave training and starting enslaving Skyrim questline, before I dropped it.

 

I'm sorry, I can't help you here.

 

EDIT after having scrolled up and reading a bit:

Get ZAZ 8+ and only this, you don't need anything else. If a mod, especially old mod says something about ZAP 7/8 or something, ignore this, just use ZAZ8+. Install it once, and keep it. It'll set you up for anything that might have ZAZ/ZAP as requirement. Nothing else is required.

Same with Devious Devices. If it says Assets, Expansion, Integration, ignore it, get latest full download of DD, which is currently 5.2. It already has everything you need.

This is something that you have to get a feel for after you've modded your games a bit. You just need to get to know the environment a bit. It takes time and there are no shortcuts, despite what some Mod List "authors" would let you believe.

 

Oh yeah, and that comment about Vortex by that person up there is pure bullshit, but let's not turn it into yet another MO2 vs. Vortex discussion. There is nothing in Vortex that makes a mod, any mod, not work or work worse or work less. It's a mod manager and it does exactly what is says on the tin.

Edited November 29, 2024 by belegost

[Raven 54]

5 hours ago, belegost said:

WAY too much sex and relies on it too much to be interesting in the long term.

 

5 hours ago, belegost said:

having to constantly stare at SL animations every 5 minutes or so

Thanks for your reply, I agree with you, one cannot have a dialogue without sex, a few times even after the dialogue/sex event the player gets raped trying to get out the freaking door.

I am too far in to turn back, just trying to finish it.

I plan on posting my stats when completed but right now Bambi has been raped over 525 times in this playthrough, with me cheat/skipping gathering animals through the MCM.

There is a Necromancer at the college I am supposed to find, "Quietly" with no marker for location, I backed up three times to make sure the quest started, still no marker.

5 hours ago, belegost said:

Get ZAZ 8+ and only this, you don't need anything else.

@pinky6225 got me squared away on ZAZ and the patch for DD so a big thumbs there.  

[Raven 54]

Fist off let me thank the mod author for allowing the use of this work, thanks as well for writing it.

 

Technical

I had lots of technical issues with this mod, mainly the whippings during sex breaks the event half the time, I had to end up turning it off in the MCM.

Npc's that you have to travel to, return with just leave after arrival and sometimes the dialogue continues sometimes not.

the doors to the dungeon and colosseum is where all npc's got stuck, go through then CC prid to get them through, this got really old really fast!

The mod picks you at level two, so I was enslaved prior to meeting all the important players in Skyrim but this mod sent me to all those places where their opening dialogue interfered with the dialogue that I was supposed to have with them.

 

Gameplay

Having to watch another three Npc's get whipped and raped three times each, while being stuck to the floor got real monotonous, after being enslaved for a time they ship her off to fight in an arena...how stupid, she has not been allowed to have weapons or clothes but is supposed to know how to fight all of a sudden?!

After constantly taking all her gold/septums she has to mine/buy/make building materials for the Colosseum, the only way forward is to cheat CC gold, materials to her.

Having to meet/play/work in the entrance to Dragonsreach where everyone just walks through, the amount of traffic there, why not build a building like the Companions hall to do all that in instead of using existing areas, the author clearly had the talent to do this.

 

Stats

In fifty five hours of play my Bambi was Raped 579 times, this does not count the sex acts that were not flagged as rape, talk to x, get raped, walk through a hall, get raped, go to a quest, get raped, sometimes multiple separate events, which depending on your settings can take a lot of time. I had to adjust timers for sex in SL MCM just to cut down the time involved. I really hate adjusting MCM's mid game.

I was doing ok for the first half but things seem to snowball into the real monotonous zone and I started skipping/cancelling sex events.

Too much focus on sex, too much focus on anal/boob jobs, too much focus on whippings, not enough on the story and how it progressed the Player through being a slave.

 

I have been looking for a slavery mod where the PC is the slave not the slaver, too many mods have made one a slave but then the pc still has to do the pathfinding the killing, the quest to get/be there. Thought I had found the one here, started good, ended bad.

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2024 by Raven 54

[johnhamm]

Is there a way for NPCs to get enslaved without doing it yourself? Everyone but the added NPCs from this mod are free so it feels a bit pointless. And can followers be enslaved by others, or only if you enslave them? Female followers dont strip in the slave areas either. I'm playing a male slaver btw

[Partel]

On 11/25/2024 at 8:20 PM, Raven 54 said:

Well it turns out that patch did work...   

 

How did you ran it?
It still does show me this error about versions

Or I should just ignore it?