Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Just curious question: after last DCL 9.0 i found that NPC lost her packages and takes other places. It's rare event at this moment i found that boatsmen into DawnstaR is missing and him place takes Dollmaker.

Also NPC likes fly away: hang in air or move on air.

Also Sasha sometimes fly away in high air. The most funny moment when she try to attack NPC camp as airplane)

 

Any got the same strange experience?)

 

No, I haven't seen anything like that yet.

[Elsidia]

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

No, I haven't seen anything like that yet.

I suggest flying away is because i remove zaz 8+ and start a new fresh game. Also it can be RTX 3070. Nothing more is changes after my first Skyrim walktrought.

[lacie_]

On 3/20/2021 at 9:52 PM, Elsidia said:

Then i need see how this gap looks and full list of armors on you(with correct names because  need it found into my game and check xedit)

 

11 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

We really need to know what outfit you have the gaps on. I'm not seeing gaps at all with the ropes.

Are you on DD 5.0 or 5.1?

DCL 9.0?

Anything overwriting DD or DCL?

 

This is at the end of the rope quest for me, just before heading back to the dollmaker. I think that's where you mentioned seeing an issue?

 

 

Sorry, I should have just posted the picture originally but was usually on here when I wasn't at my pc.

 

Here is the image - it was with the same equipment that you posted zarantha at the same point in the story. Must be one of my other loverslab mods that is creating the gap if it doesn't happen for you. (edit - for the record there was no clipping in the upper arms with that item when I was playing through the quest, might have just screenshotted at a bad time)

 

Spoiler

 

The item name is "Rope Bindings" [c0111a0]. I thought I had kept those items from the end of the quest in a chest somewhere but they disappeared anyway - not sure if they just bugged and I lost them or if they're not meant to stick around, either way I'm not too concerned about it but at this stage I am more curious how I go about finding which listings in SSEEdit correspond to a specific item, because I couldn't find anything that affected rope bindings in the dd/dcl armor addons list.

 

Also, I noticed what I'm assuming is a bug with the Leon quest - you don't lose the piercings at the end of the quest. I think this is already known (and might be carried over from the LE mod), however because the piercings are flagged as quest items or something it interferes with some functions in other devious mods like devious enslavement. Maybe this is just a me problem but would be nice if you didn't have to resort to console commands to remove them to prevent this interference.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

I suggest flying away is because i remove zaz 8+ and start a new fresh game. Also it can be RTX 3070. Nothing more is changes after my first Skyrim walktrought.

 

Maybe, I've still got zaz installed because other mods require it. I've got a GTX 1080, not sure on the RTX. Looks like yours should be the better card, so it's doubtful?

[Elsidia]

47 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

I thought I had kept those items from the end of the quest in a chest somewhere but they disappeared anyway

About items disappearing. It's a new DD 5.1 "feature". I suggest it's because of new DD items database and equip system.

If you want not to disappear those items (most of items disappear if those was equipped on NPC or you by scripts), you must reequip that item by yourself manually and remove after it by key or struggle.

I test it by Queens Sarah's items and not nest with restrained devices.

 

[zarantha]

30 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

The item name is "Rope Bindings" [c0111a0]. I thought I had kept those items from the end of the quest in a chest somewhere but they disappeared anyway - not sure if they just bugged and I lost them or if they're not meant to stick around, either way I'm not too concerned about it but at this stage I am more curious how I go about finding which listings in SSEEdit correspond to a specific item, because I couldn't find anything that affected rope bindings in the dd/dcl armor addons list.

 

Make sure you've got DD 5.1 and DCL 9.0 (not the beta), and batch build again. I'm not seeing a gap with "Rope Bindings", "Tight Rope Bindings", or "Extreme Rope Bindings".

They  both look like this for me.

 

 

You're missing a number I think.

xx1114a0 -> extreme rope bindings (no armbinder, this is body and legbinder)

xx110ebf -> tight rope bindings (armbinder/fingerbinder)

xx110ebe -> rope bindings (armbinder/fingerbinder)

 

Is the mod at 'c0' DCL?

 

40 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

Also, I noticed what I'm assuming is a bug with the Leon quest - you don't lose the piercings at the end of the quest. I think this is already known (and might be carried over from the LE mod), however because the piercings are flagged as quest items or something it interferes with some functions in other devious mods like devious enslavement. Maybe this is just a me problem but would be nice if you didn't have to resort to console commands to remove them to prevent this interference.

 

In DCL 8.x the issue with removal was speed - the way DD 4.3 was written at the time, it didn't work so well. While the mechanics have been improved in DD 5.x, I suspect script load will still be a factor on if everything gets removed. they should be removed by the quest at the end, the quest flag just keeps you from removing it using DCL's other methods of removing items.

 

[Elsidia]

21 minutes ago, zarantha said:

I've got a GTX 1080, not sure on the RTX

I hope so, that this is better, because RTX 3070 (8 gb Ram and have new ray technology) was released a last year November. But as i heard RTX technology is "fresh" and some old games have problems. As for Skyrim i hear that even RTX 2070 have some problems. But strange is that those performance issues not on GPU. But overload a CPU at max performance (6 core CPU) And it's happens with DCL timed event (dcur_clocktick script what happens at 30 seconds of RL) and mostly overload happens at Dawnstar or places where are many tied NPC (at end of rope quest in Makkart where was 4 tied up NPC (wife's) and Chloe and me) Also seems it happen not after update a RTX 3070, but after update to DD 5.1. I'm not test RTX 3070 with DD 4.3, because can't say clearly what is guilty.  Also first time when i play DCL 8.4 and was rookie in Skyrim modding i experience the same bug when with hit by enemy or start a sex scene i was throw very big in air. later this problem gone. I install some mods and probably one of it was zaz 7. unfortunately i decide to remove zaz 8+ and  can't add it back (i end all DCL main line quest and don;t want start game again), because i suspect this mod removing Rubber doll quest items when start a sex scene and (100% verified) it catastrophically slows down DCL solicitation menu [SEX for keys] - most times dialogue ends by timeout. Now without zaz 8+ i have chance to select next option, but still this part not very fast by comparing with other solicitation menus. At end i with pain in heart remove Simple slavery, zaz 8+. I remove deviously followers continued  too, but there was other things: i don't use it and last version don't allow suppress this mod for follower (you always need her pay or remove this function for her forever (what is equal to disable this mod).

 

Because i can't clearly say what can fix NPC and me from fly (zaz8+ or devious follower continued). Or it's bug with RTX 3070)

[Elsidia]

3 minutes ago, zarantha said:

I suspect script load will still be a factor on if everything gets removed. they should be removed by the quest at the end, the quest flag just keeps you from removing it using DCL's other methods of removing items

I'm not test Leon's quest still in DCL 9.0 (but will do it, i just forgot about this quest)

But with DCL 8.5 and DD 5.0 still removing speed is not enough.

Still to remove all items at time you need listen all Leon's dialogue without skip and even then you need a little slow down (about 10 sec) dialogue by enter in console. Maybe in DCL 9.0 Kimy hear me and add not generics item removing but by specific name (what is 2 times faster) Will test it. Maybe today as i left only Leon quest and test new randoms event what is added.

Also i have tested Dagonwar prison but still not found any new events in there. Still old and annoying prison. Good to made it for first time. But second time and more is still bad. Also i was so unlucky that in first run i don't get the most liked event (showcase for guards) and because was more unhappy with new prison. And yes in prison mine i watch 3 flying NPC - prisoners what work on mine.

[Kimy]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

I'm not test Leon's quest still in DCL 9.0 (but will do it, i just forgot about this quest)

But with DCL 8.5 and DD 5.0 still removing speed is not enough.

 

 

DCL 8.5 was based on DD4, which means it does NOT make use of DD's improved device handling code in many places. It should be much, much faster in DCL 9.

[zarantha]

27 minutes ago, Kimy said:

 

DCL 8.5 was based on DD4, which means it does NOT make use of DD's improved device handling code in many places. It should be much, much faster in DCL 9.

 

Will script load still be an issue at times (I know you made it better with DD 5)? There's still one or two reports of things not getting completely removed, no logs though.

Could a fallback cleanup be done for quest items if it is?

 

This is the report on this page:

 

3 hours ago, asdj1239 said:

Also, I noticed what I'm assuming is a bug with the Leon quest - you don't lose the piercings at the end of the quest. I think this is already known (and might be carried over from the LE mod), however because the piercings are flagged as quest items or something it interferes with some functions in other devious mods like devious enslavement. Maybe this is just a me problem but would be nice if you didn't have to resort to console commands to remove them to prevent this interference.

 

[lacie_]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Make sure you've got DD 5.1 and DCL 9.0 (not the beta), and batch build again. I'm not seeing a gap with "Rope Bindings", "Tight Rope Bindings", or "Extreme Rope Bindings".

They  both look like this for me.

 

You're missing a number I think.

xx1114a0 -> extreme rope bindings (no armbinder, this is body and legbinder)

xx110ebf -> tight rope bindings (armbinder/fingerbinder)

xx110ebe -> rope bindings (armbinder/fingerbinder)

 

Is the mod at 'c0' DCL?

 

 

In DCL 8.x the issue with removal was speed - the way DD 4.3 was written at the time, it didn't work so well. While the mechanics have been improved in DD 5.x, I suspect script load will still be a factor on if everything gets removed. they should be removed by the quest at the end, the quest flag just keeps you from removing it using DCL's other methods of removing items.

 

 

I'll try batch build again tomorrow and see if that fixes it, but I have tried it once. I am using 5.1 and 9.0 so should be no problems there.

 

You're right I was missing a number, its xx1114a0 (that is rope bindings for me? not extreme rope bindings).

 

And I did notice it was very slow to remove all of the devices at the end of the Leon quest, I did reload that save several times right before I completed it because the enslavement seems to get stuck for me a lot and they never got removed though.

[Elsidia]

39 minutes ago, Kimy said:

DD's improved device handling code in many places. It should be much, much faster in DCL 9.

Ok i still not check unequip script but for Leon's quest is still slow enough.

I test it with skip dialogue (no chance) - items still unequipng when next Dominated quest start and if Leash decide to put on some items it's block removal process. Ok fine that's can be good to skip.

I test with no skipping dialogue - speed have enough to unequipped most of devices and put on new collar when start next quest. Good! But... no... Obsidian nipple piercings, Obsidian vaginal piercing still stand on. i check papyrus log and seems bra and belt goes off as last and seems function is no call on piercings or it call before remove a bra or belt and failed.

I test with start unequipped process and open a console to slows down a dialogue. Still all devices will be unequiped but piercings left on you. Plugs still are left inside, but at lest those can removed.

 

 

I add papyrus log.

Also in log i found that there is problem with devices from Whip and Chain inn:

 

[ (101135DF)].zadcFurnitureScript.StruggleScene() - "zadcFurnitureScript.psc" Line 920
    [ (101135DF)].zadcFurnitureScript.OnUpdate() - "zadcFurnitureScript.psc" Line 785
[03/22/2021 - 05:55:39PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp194"
stack:

 

It's spamming all log files and made it hard to read.

 

PS: Later when i found Leon's quest unequip script and check it maybe i have more to say.

Papyrus.0.log

[zarantha]

21 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

its xx1114a0 (that is rope bindings for me?

 

I may have transposed them when looking between inventory and where I added in the cli - sorry.

either way, "rope bindings" from inventory was good in my game.

 

If you're able to go back to the save just before they're removed, can you get a papyrus log where they're unequipped?

It will be needed to see why the device wasn't removed as it should be.

[Elsidia]

18 minutes ago, zarantha said:

It will be needed to see why the device wasn't removed as it should be.

I put papyrus log about non remove obsidian piercings a post above.

I test it 3 times with different timing and use a console to slow down dialogue.

 

[lacie_]

25 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

I may have transposed them when looking between inventory and where I added in the cli - sorry.

either way, "rope bindings" from inventory was good in my game.

 

If you're able to go back to the save just before they're removed, can you get a papyrus log where they're unequipped?

It will be needed to see why the device wasn't removed as it should be.

 

are you talking about for the leon quest piercings? I think I have a save right before they *should* be unequipped, I have probably reloaded that save more than 10 times and never actually had them unequip though so I can't do that. Unless you meant to get a log where they aren't unequipped? in which case I can do that tomorrow

[Kimy]

48 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

 

are you talking about for the leon quest piercings? I think I have a save right before they *should* be unequipped, I have probably reloaded that save more than 10 times and never actually had them unequip though so I can't do that. Unless you meant to get a log where they aren't unequipped? in which case I can do that tomorrow

 

I will check if I maybe forgot to add them to the code removing these items. Not that I'd ever do such a thing...

[Elsidia]

@Kimy, @zarantha@asdj1239 if found a problem.

 

dcur_leon_npiercingsRendered [ARMO:XX076C31] have missing keyword zad_Lockable [KYWD:XX003894]

 

dcur_leon_vpiercingsRendered [ARMO:XX076C33] have missing keyword zad_Lockable [KYWD:XX003894]

 

Add that keyword to that devices and items are removed. I test it

 

This keyword is need to return rendered device from inventory device in function

 

Armor Function GetWornRenderedDeviceByKeyword(Actor a, Keyword kw)
    Int i = GetSlotMaskForDeviceType(kw)
    if i == -1
        return None
    EndIf
    Armor x = a.GetWornForm(i) As Armor
    if x && x.HasKeyWord(zad_Lockable)
        return x
    EndIf
    return none
EndFunction

 

 

[Elsidia]

6 minutes ago, Kimy said:

I will check if I maybe forgot to add them to the code removing these items. Not that I'd ever do such a thing...

To be sure i made a answer too if you not check mentioned post. See above. I check the scripts and found error.

[Kimy]

55 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

To be sure i made a answer too if you not check mentioned post. See above. I check the scripts and found error.

 

Nice! Will add these keywords!

[crococat]

Have some visual problems with last rope set from Markarth Dollmaker quest. Black hands and some missing parts from arms and legs. Last version using CBBE.

Quote

enb2021_3_22_22_20_43.bmp

 

[Elsidia]

53 minutes ago, crococat said:

Have some visual problems with last rope set from Markarth Dollmaker quest. Black hands and some missing parts from arms and legs. Last version using CBBE.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/100032-deviously-cursed-loot-se-90-2021-03-09/?do=findComment&comment=3314878

[eicosa]

Just updated to DCL 9.0 and keep getting the Children/Tag warning, causing DCL to disable itself. However i am not running any of the mods known to modify children tags. I am running SL Sexual Fame but have Children Removal disabled.

I thought it might be Devious Carriages (also recently installed) but have removed it and still have the issue. Any tips?

 

edit: also had updated Sex;ab Utility Plus, do you think that could be doing it?

 

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, eicosa said:

Just updated to DCL 9.0 and keep getting the Children/Tag warning, causing DCL to disable itself. However i am not running any of the mods known to modify children tags. I am running SL Sexual Fame but have Children Removal disabled.

I thought it might be Devious Carriages (also recently installed) but have removed it and still have the issue. Any tips?

 

edit: also had updated Sex;ab Utility Plus, do you think that could be doing it?

 

 

No, it's not likely to be that. Things to make children killable, things to allow you to play as a kid/teen, those could do it.

You'll either need to start from just DCL and it's requirements and slowly add mods in until you find it, or post your load order and hope someone recognizes a mod.

[lacie_]

10 hours ago, Kimy said:

 

I will check if I maybe forgot to add them to the code removing these items. Not that I'd ever do such a thing...

 

 

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

dcur_leon_npiercingsRendered [ARMO:XX076C31] have missing keyword zad_Lockable [KYWD:XX003894]

 

dcur_leon_vpiercingsRendered [ARMO:XX076C33] have missing keyword zad_Lockable [KYWD:XX003894]

 

Add that keyword to that devices and items are removed. I test it

 

Love your work ?

 

 

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

This keyword is need to return rendered device from inventory device in function

 

Armor Function GetWornRenderedDeviceByKeyword(Actor a, Keyword kw)
    Int i = GetSlotMaskForDeviceType(kw)
    if i == -1
        return None
    EndIf
    Armor x = a.GetWornForm(i) As Armor
    if x && x.HasKeyWord(zad_Lockable)
        return x
    EndIf
    return none
EndFunction

 

Ok now back to my normal noob questions - where do I go to view scripts? Are they accessible through SSEEdit? Now that I've had a glimpse at how to sausage is made I realized I could have just figured this out myself if I dug a little deeper...

 

Also, I think I asked this earlier but I didn't get an answer. Say I wanted to look up the leon piercings in SSEEdit, is the only way to find them to just scroll through the armor / armor addons list until I find an entry that seems to match the items? Or is there a way to get the list entry name (e.g. "dcur_leon_npiercingsRendered") or at least something that would make searching for it easier from in-game?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, asdj1239 said:

 

 

 

Love your work ?

 

 

 

Ok now back to my normal noob questions - where do I go to view scripts? Are they accessible through SSEEdit? Now that I've had a glimpse at how to sausage is made I realized I could have just figured this out myself if I dug a little deeper...

 

Also, I think I asked this earlier but I didn't get an answer. Say I wanted to look up the leon piercings in SSEEdit, is the only way to find them to just scroll through the armor / armor addons list until I find an entry that seems to match the items? Or is there a way to get the list entry name (e.g. "dcur_leon_npiercingsRendered") or at least something that would make searching for it easier from in-game?

 

For scripts, just go to \Scripts\Source or \Source|\Scripts folder and open the .psc files in a text editor like notepad++ (NPP).  Plain old notepad or wordpad will work too, but it's a lot more readable in NPP, and the find all in document or in all documents search feature is a godsend at times.

No, they aren't readable in xedit.

 

For finding it, you could do "help piercing" or whatever the actual in game inventory name is and get the ID that way, it's usually faster. If the name has spaces, put it in quotes (help "i have spaces").

You can do a real search in xedit with only the form id or the editor id. 'dcur_leon_npiercings' would be part of an editor id you could search. If it can't find it, it will be red instead of green.

 

Without either id, you'd need to do something like this:

you can go to the section you want to start with.

Where it says filter by name or value, put the keyword you want to search on

Click on the left side on the first item

Now you can arrow down quickly. when you see something pop up on the right, you can check it to see if it's what you wanted.

If there's a better way to search without knowing the formid or editor id, i don't know.

 

No piercing here:

 

Here it is. Every line with piercing in it will show and nothing else. To see the object in it's entirety, just remove your keyword  from the 'by value' field now. This is how I search xedit when I ask for what the in game name is. You can see the in game name here is "Obsidian Nipple Piercings" in the formID field on the right. (Not to be confused with the formID on the left. the left can only use the alphanumeric ID, and the in game name is not searchable from the editorID).