Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[zarantha]

8 hours ago, noctred said:

Question - I have a variety of mods which allow NPCs to initiate noncon encounters with the PC (including this one I guess). Seems like a lot of these encounters occur while the PC is "inaccessible", so to speak... which obviously makes the animations look super awkward. Also makes high arousal forced masturbation awkward since the PC magically breaks out of her armbinders for a few seconds to do her thing through a solid hobble dress.

 

Is this expected and just something that we have to live with or is there some way to make mods more respecting of various devices? I'm not sure if there are some configuration options that I'm glossing over or if this is just a thing.

That would be up to those other mods to configure. Not much you can do in DCL, and DCL already makes use of the bound animation filter to prevent the wrong animations. If you find an example where it's DCL's fault, a detailed explanation of what happened and papyrus log would be needed.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, cerebus300 said:

I remember when I first started using these mods a while ago and the Chloe quest was crashing my game when Nazzir gives us the packages that puts the pink catsuit and premium line restraints on. I eventually figured that out and this hasn't been a problem every since... until a few minutes ago. It is doing the same thing all over again. the pink catsuits go on and then crash to desktop. 

 

The one thing that I have done is to install DD5 for SE. I'm still using DCL 8.4 because it is the latest SE version. This problem didn't appear again until after I added DD5. Is there something that is now incompatible with the DCL 8.4 restraints in the Chloe quest and DD5?

 

I reran bodyslide again, but that didn't fix the problem. I really hope there is a solution or else I will have to go waaaay back to a save before Chloe Quest started. I hate that it locks out fast travel, otherwise I would just ignore it and let Chloe run off to Dawnstar, but this ruins my game if I can't complete the quest.

Build the non hdt version of the prisoner chains at minimum, and for the other devices too if you have trouble with them too. If you don't see it, check the "DD Framework HDT or NoHDT chains" group - this is DDHotFix now.

 

 

What's in the group:

 

I put the 8.5 link for SE out a while back, but you might as well wait for the beta to finish. I'll get the conversion done and hand off to kimy this time so it's official.

[cerebus300]

Thanks for the attempt @zarantha. I found all of the things that you mentioned. They were both built before. I unchecked the HDT and kept the NOHDT, but that didn't work either. Still CTD. 

 

I think I'll go back to an older save and just wait until 9 is ready for SE. Hopefully the issue won't be there then. 

[YojimboRatchet]

23 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Sexlab SE is old and not updated

apparently the LE version had a recent update, but i don't see any notes as to what was updated.

[natybs]

On 12/11/2020 at 9:52 AM, Elsidia said:

There is: mod simple slavery -> DCL trigger simple slavery -> you are sold -> trigger some random DCL quest without slavery.

As slavery is Leon's quest ->Dominated. (Both are bugged)

You can buy Sasha from Dollmaker -> She can be your Domina in some conditions.

 

So Leon's quest can't be completed now? I was going to try it and Leah has no dialog for anything but I think you have to do the thing Leon talks about with Claudius first. Is his quest bugged or just the dominant follower. 

I just checked them and they both have dialog to be a follower but only Leon had something for a quest. To be enslaved by them do I just make then follower or must do quest first? Sorry if stupid question I have never done anything with them before. 

[Elsidia]

51 minutes ago, natybs said:

So Leon's quest can't be completed now?

Leon's quest works fine. You need speak with Leon, complete the party and then you can choose Leash as object of next quest Dominated. When you complete it and free from Leash no more Leash as Domina only as follower.

 

Bugged only some quest variables and quest items (restraint items)

 

After complete Leon's and (or) Dominated you need reset Leon's quest variable by console or no more cursed events happen

[natybs]

22 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Leon's quest works fine. You need speak with Leon, complete the party and then you can choose Leash as object of next quest Dominated. When you complete it and free from Leash no more Leash as Domina only as follower.

 

Bugged only some quest variables and quest items (restraint items)

 

After complete Leon's and (or) Dominated you need reset Leon's quest variable by console or no more cursed events happen

How do I reset this in console? Also is the rubber arrest quest still a thing the dollmaker doesn't have any dialog for it and I just did the rubber commercial or do I have to wait a while for that one to appear. Sorry to ask so many questions I am trying out everything in the mod quest wise I have not done yet. So I never found a way to equip Sasha's shackles there doesn't seam to be a dialog for it and I read past par h notes apparently enemies that surrender should not be attacked by gaurds but they allways are for me if I take them to town. JW if the enemies thing is because I sometimes catch them with the dollmaker sword or the control spell instead of a combat surrender. 

[Elsidia]

15 minutes ago, natybs said:

Also is the rubber arrest quest still a thing the dollmaker doesn't have any dialog for it and I just did the rubber commercial or do I have to wait a while for that one to appear.

Rubber arrest? - i don't heard about this quest. With this name it's not from DCL.

 

Rubber doll quest - trigger by cursed loot event

Spoiler

1) Fight with your arousal and rubber collar after long time goes to ground.

2) Don't fight with your arousal and you get completely wrapped into it: when you got arm-binder on - quest marks dollmaker as quest continue.

 

Rubber commercial - trigger by dollmaker dialogue

Spoiler

Instant pay for quest. Then Dollmaker puts on commercial rubber suit what can be removed after time (menu says when you can do it). No need more Dollmaker.

 

Damsel in Distress - different triggers (cursed loot, raped, combat surrender, simple slavery)

 

Complex and hard quest what not depend on Dollmaker. Need another big story how to play it.

 

15 minutes ago, natybs said:

How do I reset this in console?

Spoiler

setpqv dcur_leon_enslave leon_questrunning false

 

[noctred]

On 12/15/2020 at 9:21 AM, Elsidia said:

Sexlab SE is old and not updated because it's have bug: when start a sex animation - it's not started. You need enter into menu or console to activate sex scene activation. But no game freezes. Only long start of sex scene.

 

Could I get some more info on this? I think I'm getting that sometimes - actors stand around like they're preparing for a sex scene but it takes forever for them to actually start. Doesn't happen often, but it does happen.

 

What console command are you referring to?

 

14 hours ago, zarantha said:

That would be up to those other mods to configure. Not much you can do in DCL, and DCL already makes use of the bound animation filter to prevent the wrong animations. If you find an example where it's DCL's fault, a detailed explanation of what happened and papyrus log would be needed.

 

Gotcha, thanks. I wasn't implying that it's DCL's fault - just wasn't sure if there was maybe something obvious that I was overlooking as I'm not sure how all this stuff is (or isn't) integrated through SexLab. I'll just live with it as it's not a huge deal at the end of the day.

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, noctred said:

What console command are you referring to?

There no console command need. If scene freezes, enter into console and see info about scene start, also it's makes scene start faster if you are in console. When you see in left upper corner name of animation, you can exit a console and sex scene starts:

Spoiler

Also there you can check status: sex scene start lags, actor wrong positions etc:

 

Spoiler

 

[natybs]

4 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Rubber arrest? - i don't heard about this quest. With this name it's not from DCL.

 

Rubber doll quest - trigger by cursed loot event

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1) Fight with your arousal and rubber collar after long time goes to ground.

2) Don't fight with your arousal and you get completely wrapped into it: when you got arm-binder on - quest marks dollmaker as quest continue.

 

Rubber commercial - trigger by dollmaker dialogue

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Instant pay for quest. Then Dollmaker puts on commercial rubber suit what can be removed after time (menu says when you can do it). No need more Dollmaker.

 

Damsel in Distress - different triggers (cursed loot, raped, combat surrender, simple slavery)

 

Complex and hard quest what not depend on Dollmaker. Need another big story how to play it.

 

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setpqv dcur_leon_enslave leon_questrunning false

 

OK thank you for the help. The quest I was thinking about was the one where the dollmaker sends you to catch someone who didn't pay her. Forget what it's called but she has no dialog to start it and I have don't her other quests tie people up and the rubber commercial and waited a while

[noctred]

Another question...

 

Mods like SLHH and BadoDialog (and probably others) rely on armor keywords to trigger their events. There's a toggle in the SexLab Aroused MCM which sets your current armor to "naked" for the purposes of these mods but I noticed that whenever I'm wearing DCL devices (hobble dresses, straitjackets, etc), that toggle indicates that I'm not wearing anything toggle-able, as it otherwise would indicate the opposite for any normal outfit.

 

Are these devices already considered to be "naked" in the context of mods like SLHH or what's the interaction there?

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, natybs said:

dollmaker

Rubber arrears 

Spoiler

When dollmaker give a quest you need downwrite 3 cities what she says. Check and search those cities for strange women NPC - when you talk with her - you must beat her up in fight. After put on restraint if you take it from dollmaker when quest start and you are teleported near to Dawnstar. Now you need spank her while she follow you and go to dollmakers house. If you enter in dolmaker's home when your victim is near you - dollmaker have new quest menu to end quest.

She can be randomly walking in any of 3 cities what give a dollmaker in quest description. Not in house but on city streets.

 

[natybs]

38 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Rubber arrears 

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When dollmaker give a quest you need downwrite 3 cities what she says. Check and search those cities for strange women NPC - when you talk with her - you must beat her up in fight. After put on restraint if you take it from dollmaker when quest start and you are teleported near to Dawnstar. Now you need spank her while she follow you and go to dollmakers house. If you enter in dolmaker's home when your victim is near you - dollmaker have new quest menu to end quest.

She can be randomly walking in any of 3 cities what give a dollmaker in quest description. Not in house but on city streets.

 

OK but I do not see a dialog from the dollmaker to start this. She just has the key holder option and the buy/sell and fix jammed locks and the getting keys ones. Tie me up. 

[Elsidia]

9 hours ago, natybs said:

OK but I do not see a dialog from the dollmaker to start this.

If you have locked restraints on like rubber suit it's blocked. Also some menus not appear if you don't have installed papyrus util SE mod:

Spoiler

 

[natybs]

well it seams i ahve to reinstall everything now becaus loading one fo the bropken autosaves in the prison from main menu broke my mods. nps have disapeared from the game and can not eb found in the save funclist 1

anything i can do to avoid rull reinstall? i ahve truyed going back dozens of hours in hard save, long before the prision issue and it is still broken. leon leah  from DLCand laurs and katrina from tha laurans bondage shop mod have all vanished from my game. console commands can not find any refid or even baseid. they are simply gone. what the hell?

 

managed to find a save that fixeds it but it is a long way back....not sure why the prison would do this but i will disabl;e it in future if it is this buggy. i cant load autosaves in the prison except from main menu and when i did that...this happened...

[Elsidia]

54 minutes ago, natybs said:

not sure why the prison would do this

I never found that type of error. Prison can be loaded from your game inside, if you check - show all saves. As someone says here - prison have unique name, what force to Skyrim think that it's from another character.

As my experience says - as more prison repeats as harder it is. This quest overload a save... maybe. In DCL 9.0 beta 1 prison is overworked but still have a bugs depend on LE DCL 9.0 thread.

[natybs]

19 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

I never found that type of error. Prison can be loaded from your game inside, if you check - show all saves. As someone says here - prison have unique name, what force to Skyrim think that it's from another character.

As my experience says - as more prison repeats as harder it is. This quest overload a save... maybe. In DCL 9.0 beta 1 prison is overworked but still have a bugs depend on LE DCL 9.0 thread.

well at lkeast this explanes how i failed the escape twice. but the last time i did the prison i did not load a save from inside it. seeing as it get harder i guess it is not a good way to get more gear from the escape quest. i di it allready twice this playthrought

also one of the random gaurds (the blonde haired one who rapes you at night sometimes with another gaurd) get teliported out of the prison and just stand wherever i get sent to durring escape or relese. (haoen eather way i get out of prison). not sure if it was a problem but i did disable him second time and it seamed to work fine when i was at prison (the dame guy spawned one night i got attacked). only had problems after i loaded a autosave in prison. i also could not find any save made after this point listed as under my character they were only found under all saves. this included the hardsave i made.

 

[Elsidia]

33 minutes ago, natybs said:

well at lkeast this explanes how i failed the escape twice.

I don't mean that prison difficulty is increased. It stands on level what you set. About fail escapes - it's another story) later in this post.

I mean that in next prison will higher chance to something bugged out (NPC not appear, restraints not applied, not goes out, some doors not open or some quest items missing or some quest not end or start)

 

About escape difficulty: it's depend on random number: most percent from 1 to 100 (95% if number is less as 95) If number is integer is most bad. There is chance that number in line can be more than 95 - and in reality chance is lower that 95% better use is real type of number but there can be screw up chance too.  Also some events use random nummbe r+ or * some modifiers like a dcl trap trigger fasten if you have high arousal.

 

if you fail a escape - that not means you have bigger difficulty - that means at this moment you are unlucky - random number spawn in area 96 - 100 very often. That's a personal computer randomize number problem....

[natybs]

3 hours ago, Elsidia said:

I don't mean that prison difficulty is increased. It stands on level what you set. About fail escapes - it's another story) later in this post.

I mean that in next prison will higher chance to something bugged out (NPC not appear, restraints not applied, not goes out, some doors not open or some quest items missing or some quest not end or start)

 

About escape difficulty: it's depend on random number: most percent from 1 to 100 (95% if number is less as 95) If number is integer is most bad. There is chance that number in line can be more than 95 - and in reality chance is lower that 95% better use is real type of number but there can be screw up chance too.  Also some events use random nummbe r+ or * some modifiers like a dcl trap trigger fasten if you have high arousal.

 

if you fail a escape - that not means you have bigger difficulty - that means at this moment you are unlucky - random number spawn in area 96 - 100 very often. That's a personal computer randomize number problem....

ok thank you for telling me. since you know a lot abouth this mod do you know where the slave trader travels around to? the guy you seel the captured bandit women to. i found him in the riverwood taven but he is not there anymore i assume he travels around?

 

[Elsidia]

19 minutes ago, natybs said:

where the slave trader travels around to?

Not see it in another place as Riverwood. I think he are in inn in defined hours. If time is when he not here - he sleeps "somewhere". Need wait a time before he shows up. Also as you see normal NPC have own packages (skyrim programming terminology) and walk around a place: go sleep in night and etc. i think the same is Slaver - he disappears in some hours of daylight cycle.

Edit: Also always when you use a Slaver's book - you always teleported to Riwerwood inn even if Slaver at this moment not here.

[natybs]

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Not see it in another place as Riverwood. I think he are in inn in defined hours. If time is when he not here - he sleeps "somewhere". Need wait a time before he shows up. Also as you see normal NPC have own packages (skyrim programming terminology) and walk around a place: go sleep in night and etc. i think the same is Slaver - he disappears in some hours of daylight cycle.

Edit: Also always when you use a Slaver's book - you always teleported to Riwerwood inn even if Slaver at this moment not here.

ok thank you also some bopund girls wont despawn is this a bug and should i use resetai or recycleactor to fix them or just leave them. i mean after i free them there outfit changes and they just stand around. if i come back days later they are still there. there are two in riverwood in n i am just noticing this. i can reset them in console jw if they would eventually respawn somewhere else as newly bound girl. 

[natybs]

17 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Not see it in another place as Riverwood. I think he are in inn in defined hours. If time is when he not here - he sleeps "somewhere". Need wait a time before he shows up. Also as you see normal NPC have own packages (skyrim programming terminology) and walk around a place: go sleep in night and etc. i think the same is Slaver - he disappears in some hours of daylight cycle.

Edit: Also always when you use a Slaver's book - you always teleported to Riwerwood inn even if Slaver at this moment not here.

is the slavers. book sold by anyone i ahve never found one? mabey high level spell?

 

[Elsidia]

15 minutes ago, natybs said:

book sold by anyone

When you speak with this Slaver and agree to be Slave trader it gives this book to you. Then when you capture a slave you read this book and teleports to riwerwood in with slave to sell it to Slaver. Later after sell if you read it again it teleports back to place where you read book first time.

 

7 hours ago, natybs said:

wont despawn is this a bug and should

Its' despawn and the respawn back. You can interact with this slave girl again. Only bug is that not change main outfit back to bound girl - she is in restraints but have outfit too.

[natybs]

also sometimes the gaurds or npcs attack my bandit slaves other times they dont i dont egt it