Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[YojimboRatchet]

4 hours ago, Yeved said:

Anyway, thanks again for the answer. If you have a few more tips I will gladly read them

 

try this link to start, very good thread about the basics.

 

 

[YojimboRatchet]

@Elsidia

 

moved my zaz 8 down after DD first, then DCL, then started down the list of big named mods, until i had it at the bottom before the LAL stuff. (yeah sorry, my QA OCD kicked in, so did one step at a time lol),

 

i didn't see a difference on the jacket issue at all.

 

i am going to try and turn off the DD animation override though in the MCM, and leave sexlab / zaz on, then alternate them, to see if it would work that way.. maybe ? lol

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, YojimboRatchet said:

i didn't see a difference on the jacket issue at all.

You didn't see a difference because there not - if i read scripts right there is error in dd animation filter. I hope it will be fixed in DCL 9.0 You can turn it off - but DCL filter depending on this script ignores that filter.

That means in that version no sex in straitjackets unless you put on jacket armbinder keyword - then filter uses armbinder animations - but why knows what can be broke if game thinks that straitjacket is armbinder too.

 

[YojimboRatchet]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

You didn't see a difference because there not - if i read scripts right there is error in dd animation filter. I hope it will be fixed in DCL 9.0 You can turn it off - but DCL filter depending on this script ignores that filter.

That means in that version no sex in straitjackets unless you put on jacket armbinder keyword - then filter uses armbinder animations - but why knows what can be broke if game thinks that straitjacket is armbinder too.

 

well, i tried anyway to help by testing the zaz as you suggested. a shame it didn't help anything. i'll let you know if i find anything with the AO's, but i somehow doubt it.

 

thing is, is that filter exists.. then why am i still able to have sex "inside" a location, like the tavern for the "working girl", or even the cidhna vampire / pirates via simple slavery (and believe me they rape me like every 2 minutes...)

 

anyway. if there is anything else i can help with, let m eknow.

[Elsidia]

6 minutes ago, YojimboRatchet said:

working girl

Wait wait on working girl you not wear a straitjacket - no sex if you wear a straitjacket, But other cases sex is.

Edit: you can start this quest then put on straitjacket - and no more sex - easy money)

 

 

6 minutes ago, YojimboRatchet said:

e cidhna vampire / pirates via simple slavery

This not DCL and DCL have own sex filter in DCL library - but those mods use zaz filters.

 

[YojimboRatchet]

8 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Edit: you can start this quest then put on straitjacket - and no more sex

 

that's what i said earlier, yes. in working girl i add the jacket and solicit, and i end up having sex with it on.

9 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

his not DCL and DCL have own sex filter in DCL library - but those mods use zaz filters.

i know it isn't DCL, was just trying to give an example of being able to have sex with the jacket on. maybe it's helpful in some way ? see why you can have sex there ?

 

 

like i said, just trying to help.

[Elsidia]

15 minutes ago, YojimboRatchet said:

like the tavern for the "working girl"

I do the test with working girl - with inkeeper Hulda,

The funny thing was she was my first client - i work for her and she first going use me) She pay me own money and i return later back)) But not story about it) Yes i have sex with her.

Later i put on straitjacket and do with Hulda solicitation - no more sex)

And more later i test trigger working girl script when some men goes to me and ask for sex. Of course in straitjacket no sex and i got free money)

[Elsidia]

19 minutes ago, YojimboRatchet said:

in working girl i add the jacket and solicit,

No way. I just test it - got money without sex.

Edited: Seems sex started by trigger some other your mod - naked DCL can't start sex with straitjacket

Edited2: Do further test - remove all available filters from DD and zaz 8+ mod- still without sex)

[WhatRules]

I'm not seeing the dialogue to get help from traders, and I've tried with a full bondage set equipped. I have better dialogue controls, so that's not the issue. It only appeared at one time when I misclicked something, but I don't even know what it was.

[Elsidia]

19 minutes ago, saltshade said:

to get help from traders

Not sure what you mean but all NPC, not traders have dialogue [Restraints] when you have restraints on. After one time use: failed or success this menu disappear for time.

in [Solicitation] are sex for keys if you not in chastity gear. Also sometimes by time triggered dialogue when you press on npc and they can decide take some restraint off give some key.

Also all those dialogues can failed and you got more restraints on or got in dagonvar prison. More chance to get negative result as positive)

[WhatRules]

17 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Not sure what you mean but all NPC, not traders have dialogue [Restraints] when you have restraints on. After one time use: failed or success this menu disappear for time.

in [Solicitation] are sex for keys if you not in chastity gear. Also sometimes by time triggered dialogue when you press on npc and they can decide take some restraint off give some key.

Also all those dialogues can failed and you got more restraints on or got in dagonvar prison. More chance to get negative result as positive)

I mean the dialogue called "I have been locked in restraints. Can you help me?". That was there in LE but not SE. You can set the chances for good or bad outcomes in the Bondage Adventure tab in MCM, and I have that enabled. That's where it says you can ask traders for help.

 

I don't even know what [Restraints] dialogue you're talking about since I don't have it. Is that from some other mod or do you mean the "Device Comments" feature?

 

What do you mean by sometimes it triggers when press on npc? You mean it's random if you can ask them? So if I wait awhile I might be able to ask them?

 

I can ask for help via Sanguine's Debauchery but then you need speechcraft success and gold, plus it levels you to become so good in the skill that you won't be a "vulnerable person" anymore.

[Elsidia]

49 minutes ago, saltshade said:

I have been locked in restraints. Can you help me?

Ok i'm wrong this dialogue is only for traders and see:

 

Spoiler

 

You install papyrus util mod? It's necessary for dialogue appears.

[WhatRules]

26 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Ok i'm wrong this dialogue is only for traders and see:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

You install papyrus util mod? It's necessary for dialogue appears.

Yes, but I noticed something. I can get that dialogue to appear only after they comment on devices, and only if they don't do anything else. I don't get it.

[Elsidia]

24 minutes ago, saltshade said:

I can get that dialogue to appear

When you are locked in restraints.

 

 

[YojimboRatchet]

started noticing this lately, never really paid much attention before as there is so much going on. but there is an option in the mcm that if you're wearing rubber gloves / cuffs and you speak to someone, there is a chance they're tie them together. this actually happened for the first time a few days ago. which was cool.

 

thing is, it was the first and only time. i have tried to have this happen again, and nothing. is this broken or is there a special trigger or a mod conflict that could prevent this from happening ? i have tried all cuff variants with locks, all glove variants with lock, and nothing. just that one time i had cuffs on.

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, YojimboRatchet said:

i have tried all cuff variants with locks

Ok i can answer of that question.

For that i check scripts to got fully answer.

And this:

You need allow device comments. Also you must not be on active quest. (Can check in DCL MCM config menu - debug - need active quest running false)

Then when you wear Rubber Gloves with D-links and those not locked when are next active device comment when you speak with NPC there is 25% chance (default MCM value), that this NPC in devices comments lock your gloves.

 

I test it by setting 100% chance and when next bondage dialogue appear NPC locks my gloves.

 

If you want this more set percentage higher. Or set 100% value. Next time when you wear a Rubber Gloves with D-links and bondage dialogue appear you sure got locked rubber gloves.

 

[woodie99]

is this mod and devious devises in general designed not to play any part of the vanilla game ?  because i managed to get high holthar and started the dialog with angier and when wolfgan gives me the power for the second word in unrelenting force my game crashes update managed to past that bit it was the the slik dress from the dollmaker shop was causing the problem 

[Greethings]

Incomplete labels?

In the case of DD, I almost always stumble upon missing names and / or labels ...

 

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Hiányos címkék?

A DD esetében szinte állandóan a hiányzó nevek és vagy címkézésekbe botlok...

 

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, woodie99 said:

is this mod and devious devises in general designed not to play any part of the vanilla game ?  because i managed to get high holthar and started the dialog with angier and when wolfgan gives me the power for the second word in unrelenting force my game crashes update managed to past that bit it was the the slik dress from the dollmaker shop was causing the problem 

I haven't had any issues with using DD and playing the  main quest nor have i heard of an issue with any of the dresses. There  was an issue with CTDs in high hrothgar a while back because of the skeleton, so make sure xpmsse is up to date. 

 

If you still have an issue with the dress, you can do a full optimization and resave the mesh for that one dress in cathedral assets optimizer, or us nif optmizer on the dress. rerunning bodyslide might also help.

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, Greethings said:

Incomplete labels?

In the case of DD, I almost always stumble upon missing names and / or labels ...

 

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Hiányos címkék?

A DD esetében szinte állandóan a hiányzó nevek és vagy címkézésekbe botlok...

 

Oh, you mean the source. I haven't cared enough to track that down, it  happens with multiple mods for me. DCL is a straight conversion though, I didn't edit the esp at all.  So either missing in both, or something SE specific. I will check.

[daveedmee]

I could need some help with the Leon quest.

I stumbled across some posts about the Leon quest mentioning that the slave boots didn't show up which is the same problem as mine. So I followed their advice and got the Add Item Menu Mod so I could add the slave boots to my inventory manually using that mod and equip them. I also got the message saying I completed that objective. I went and gathered all the other things needed (piercings, etc) but after that I couldn't continue the quest. There was no one I could talk to, I couldn't get Kayleigh's chastity key and so on. I tried to save and reload, reload older savestates and started the quest multiple times, with the same char and with creating a new character. Still the same issue. I get no errors, nothing.
Is there any way to let the quest continue manually, like a console command or something like that? 

 

Help would be appreciated, thanks in advance 

[Elsidia]

6 minutes ago, 0feed0me0 said:

So I followed their advice and got the Add Item Menu Mod

Some devices is hidden into pot hard to find but i find all. Also when you find all get it on you need return to ... Kayleg ... i suppose? To NPC what ask you put those devices on - then you got a key.

 

Edited:Also always is chance to continue a quest by console need only study quest script. but that not a solution.

[daveedmee]

8 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Some devices is hidden into pot hard to find but i find all

Where did you get the slave boots? Because I checked every chest, closet, barrel and stuff, but couldn't find them


Edit:

 

How to continue the quest via console?
 

[Elsidia]

28 minutes ago, 0feed0me0 said:

Where did you get the slave boots?

 

28 minutes ago, 0feed0me0 said:

How to continue the quest via console?

Ok after 3 hours i be home and check a scripts and quest to remember where. But about script not so much hope - DCL quests have high conditions and sometimes hard find to next step without break a whole quest.

[daveedmee]

Alright, have to do some errands, will come back later to check if you've answered