No worries @Bluegunk That's what we are here for. For the Love of Ivy!

We're all just Gamers helping other gamers enjoy their game.

Hey, @Reginald_001 I can easily report that  AWKR / Keyword mods have ZERO incompatibilities with Ivy. I've had AWKR installed since day zero and Ivy 4 and all during my testing. I use and give her things from that mod all the time. I've never noticed an issue

8 hours ago, kchurchjr said:

No worries @Bluegunk That's what we are here for. For the Love of Ivy!

We're all just Gamers helping other gamers enjoy their game.

 

Hey, @Reginald_001 I can easily report that  AWKR / Keyword mods have ZERO incompatibilities with Ivy. I've had AWKR installed since day zero and Ivy 4 and all during my testing. I use and give her things from that mod all the time. I've never noticed an issue

I am removing the overrides in 5.2. and will use script to add the keywords, so it should be 100% compatible with any AWKR/Keyword mods from there on in. It's just there for a little easter egg anyway, e.g. 1 line of dialogue.

I've found a slight issue with the system for preventing Ivy from being re-scaled. After reading about it I changed her scale deliberately to see what comments she made but then, rather than returning to her original size, she shot up to about twice her original size and the smaller I tried making her, the large she got when trying to scale back up again.

Also, I'm not sure if this has already been addressed, but would it be possible to add some sort of cool-down or limiter to Ivy's random comments and stories? They're all great but it did get a bit annoying and immersion breaking when I got the story about Debby and Jack getting kidnapped by the neighbour three times in a row while trying listen to all of Dr.Stein's logs.

So I just re-discovered this little gem of a mod (still running Ivy 4.0) and I'm considering doing another Fallout 4 replay just for the sake of Ivy 5.0 (because that's a long list of new stuff compared to 4.0).

If anyone can answer them, I got a few questions before I start;

1. first, should I wait for 5.2? It sounds pretty close, but is there a rough ETA?

2. will there be a major gameplay difference between Ivy 5.0 and 6.0? 6.0 sounds like polishing of the engine below, but if any big quests and gameplay changes are considered it could be a reason to replay her later in the year.

3. does anyone know if Ivy 5.1 behaves with Unlimited Companion Framework? I read the issues with Multiple Companion mods, but those mentioned seem to work differently and break the game in various different ways compared to UCF (not a modder, just basing this on complaints and buglists). I know UCF is an older mod, but it has worked flawlessly for me for over a couple of hundred hours now (in fact it works so well I'm very reluctant to use other MC-mods at all). 

4. how important is it to start on a clean (mod free) save? Over time I compiled a very stable mod list (296 mods working in harmony), but quite a few of those are dependent on being installed from the very startup of the game. Starting a new clean save and loading all of them on top of that is finicky business at best and downright sketchy at its worst. 

Other than that I just want to say that Ivy is an awesome mod which I enjoyed immensely. Although I once installed her as a bit of a joke (to much 'sex-bot' for anything serious) I find that over time she showed a lot more depth and character than any of the vanilla companions (and most of the modded companions out there). Thanks for all the hard work you put into this mod to bring her to life!

13 hours ago, Skadedyr said:

So I just re-discovered this little gem of a mod (still running Ivy 4.0) and I'm considering doing another Fallout 4 replay just for the sake of Ivy 5.0 (because that's a long list of new stuff compared to 4.0).

 

If anyone can answer them, I got a few questions before I start;

 

1. first, should I wait for 5.2? It sounds pretty close, but is there a rough ETA?

2. will there be a major gameplay difference between Ivy 5.0 and 6.0? 6.0 sounds like polishing of the engine below, but if any big quests and gameplay changes are considered it could be a reason to replay her later in the year.

3. does anyone know if Ivy 5.1 behaves with Unlimited Companion Framework? I read the issues with Multiple Companion mods, but those mentioned seem to work differently and break the game in various different ways compared to UCF (not a modder, just basing this on complaints and buglists). I know UCF is an older mod, but it has worked flawlessly for me for over a couple of hundred hours now (in fact it works so well I'm very reluctant to use other MC-mods at all). 

4. how important is it to start on a clean (mod free) save? Over time I compiled a very stable mod list (296 mods working in harmony), but quite a few of those are dependent on being installed from the very startup of the game. Starting a new clean save and loading all of them on top of that is finicky business at best and downright sketchy at its worst. 

 

Other than that I just want to say that Ivy is an awesome mod which I enjoyed immensely. Although I once installed her as a bit of a joke (to much 'sex-bot' for anything serious) I find that over time she showed a lot more depth and character than any of the vanilla companions (and most of the modded companions out there). Thanks for all the hard work you put into this mod to bring her to life!

 

1 Nah, just play and enjoy 5.1. 5.2 is still with reg and not even given to testing

2. ... OK, 5.2 MAY have more quests, Bugs fixes and polish for sure. 6 is the new VA, That's for @Reginald_001 to announce 

3 two part answer. A no multi follower mod is supported at this time. Same with Ivy 4. B) I've used Unlimited Companion Framework many many times with Ivy 4 with small dialogue drops. NOT supported but you do you

4.  VERY does your save have Ivy 4? if no then rock on... ish maybe I honestly don't know, but think you're good, we just cant have old Ivy 4 Scripts there. I'll leave it to those who know better to correct me If I'm wrong. if yes then sorry a MUST

End point, TBH me too, I was like fuck yea, sexbot and was blown away by her depth and character. She quickly became my reason to keep up with FO4 and even start talking on forums. Ivy is a God tier waifu and Mod

Feel free to ask any more questions I appreciate the list format 

13 hours ago, kchurchjr said:

1 Nah, just play and enjoy 5.1. 5.2 is still with reg and not even given to testing

2. ... OK, 5.2 MAY have more quests, Bugs fixes and polish for sure. 6 is the new VA, That's for @Reginald_001 to announce 

3 two part answer. A no multi follower mod is supported at this time. Same with Ivy 4. B) I've used Unlimited Companion Framework many many times with Ivy 4 with small dialogue drops. NOT supported but you do you

4.  VERY does your save have Ivy 4? if no then rock on... ish maybe I honestly don't know, but think you're good, we just cant have old Ivy 4 Scripts there. I'll leave it to those who know better to correct me If I'm wrong. if yes then sorry a MUST

 

End point, TBH me too, I was like fuck yea, sexbot and was blown away by her depth and character. She quickly became my reason to keep up with FO4 and even start talking on forums. Ivy is a God tier waifu and Mod

 

Feel free to ask any more questions I appreciate the list format 

Thanks for the answers. ?

Ivy 4.0 worked seemingly without a loss of function with Unlimited Companion Framework. I think because UCF treats every companion as the main companion (and yes, that sometimes means multiple companions commenting on something simultaneously). But I'll just disable it for the time being and just go for an Ivy only run until Ivy 5.2 becomes available.

As for the clean save; I do understand the problems with an Ivy 4.0 save (so the necessity for a new game restart), but somewhere in the instructions it is mentioned you need to install her on a total fresh newly started game save (without ANY mods on it) for her to work properly. If that last part is a necessity I have quite a few mods I wouldn't be able to run safely as they require to be present from the very start of the game for optimum stability. 

Other than that, no more questions. I guess I'll boot up a Ivy 5.1 run than. ?  

5 hours ago, Skadedyr said:

As for the clean save; I do understand the problems with an Ivy 4.0 save (so the necessity for a new game restart), but somewhere in the instructions it is mentioned you need to install her on a total fresh newly started game save (without ANY mods on it) for her to work properly. If that last part is a necessity I have quite a few mods I wouldn't be able to run safely as they require to be present from the very start of the game for optimum stability. 

So start clean with those mods. SAVE and exit that install Ivy 5 and have fun

reginald_001  Thank your for answer over on ivys page, my 3rd new game i noticed that the only magazine which spawned in same spot was at thicket. and on this 3rd new game i did not take ivy with me when i did the arcjet quest with danse and she stopped using hypercombat still. but until that point it works perfect when we get into combat shes all over the place. i might start a new again and avoid the bos,  and see what happens.

2 hours ago, galaxy66 said:

reginald_001  Thank your for answer over on ivys page, my 3rd new game i noticed that the only magazine which spawned in same spot was at thicket. and on this 3rd new game i did not take ivy with me when i did the arcjet quest with danse and she stopped using hypercombat still. but until that point it works perfect when we get into combat shes all over the place. i might start a new again and avoid the bos,  and see what happens.

Around BoS she disables her Teleporter (and HC) as they'd want to kill her or study her. That is normal. she only uses HC when hostile to the Brotherhood

@kchurchjr I understand that. the issue for me anyway is she never turns it back on again after the  quest to arc jet. this is my 3rd game first 2 she was with me, the 3rd she wasn't  when i did that quest 

@Reginald_001  another quick question about the magazines, so  I know now only the one at thicket spawns in same place, but i have noticed that trash cans safes , metal boxes I've checked that had none in them, do now later in the game  and getting some duplicates  is that normal.  i enjoy looking for these magazines . i am just curious

Just now, galaxy66 said:

@Reginald_001  another quick question about the magazines, so  I know now only the one at thicket spawns in same place, but i have noticed that trash cans safes , metal boxes I've checked that had none in them, do now later in the game  and getting some duplicates  is that normal.  i enjoy looking for these magazines . i am just curious

Yes, they spawn randomly in such containers and if the containers are set to 'respawn' then they might refill.

20 hours ago, kchurchjr said:

Around BoS she disables her Teleporter (and HC) as they'd want to kill her or study her. That is normal. she only uses HC when hostile to the Brotherhood

after re reading your response, your saying since i'm friendly with bos she keeps it off?  I was under the impression that she turns it off  when in the LOS of any BOS . and back on again when we leave, she did that for me during the first play through one time. turned it off near camebridge, and when i got close to beantown brewery she turned it back on. but only did that once.

thank you

6 minutes ago, Reginald_001 said:

Yes, they spawn randomly in such containers and if the containers are set to 'respawn' then they might refill.

sorry , thanks

1 hour ago, galaxy66 said:

after re reading your response, your saying since i'm friendly with bos she keeps it off?  I was under the impression that she turns it off  when in the LOS of any BOS . and back on again when we leave, she did that for me during the first play through one time. turned it off near camebridge, and when i got close to beantown brewery she turned it back on. but only did that once.

If your Friendly it stays off Near the BoS, If not it's time to Rip n Tear

A) If I'm reading this correctly (All on me. I've a LONG day Few weeks at work.)

You go to cambridge, Teleport and HC are off, Leave Cambridge, Back on? off all during Fire Support? With Pali Danse. AFTER he's gone. Teleport and HC turn back on. If all this is correct then that's Ivy being normal.

B) IF you are simply passing by Cambridge, During Danse's intro Quest, or later the Pridwen She turns them off and DOESN'T turn Teleport and HC back on we got problems. I've play tested her no less than 5 times quests 10 each (reloaded saves)d have never had an issue with her not turning those features back on.

If A. all is good and normal, Bae doesn't want the BoS to know who and what she is

If B. All is NOT Good. Drop your LO maybe you papyrus script log (if enabled*) and we'll look it over. 

*if you don't know how to do so just say so and we gotcha

I hope that answer was alot more in depth then my last answer. Sorry, Like I said. Been real busy at work

EDIT* you can also Join Ivy's Domain and chat with the lot of us in real time https://discord.gg/vyTvJYd

On 2/4/2020 at 7:21 PM, kchurchjr said:

If your Friendly it stays off Near the BoS, If not it's time to Rip n Tear

 

A) If I'm reading this correctly (All on me. I've a LONG day Few weeks at work.)

You go to cambridge, Teleport and HC are off, Leave Cambridge, Back on? off all during Fire Support? With Pali Danse. AFTER he's gone. Teleport and HC turn back on. If all this is correct then that's Ivy being normal.

 

B) IF you are simply passing by Cambridge, During Danse's intro Quest, or later the Pridwen She turns them off and DOESN'T turn Teleport and HC back on we got problems. I've play tested her no less than 5 times quests 10 each (reloaded saves)d have never had an issue with her not turning those features back on.

 

If A. all is good and normal, Bae doesn't want the BoS to know who and what she is

If B. All is NOT Good. Drop your LO maybe you papyrus script log (if enabled*) and we'll look it over. 

*if you don't know how to do so just say so and we gotcha

 

I hope that answer was alot more in depth then my last answer. Sorry, Like I said. Been real busy at work

EDIT* you can also Join Ivy's Domain and chat with the lot of us in real time https://discord.gg/vyTvJYd

Sorry. Just got around to reading all this. 

I had the same problem with Ivy's HC and teleport. I understood that she would shut it off in the presence of the BoS if I became friendly with them. But when not in their vicinity she still wouldn't use HC or teleport. Even after I became an enemy of the BoS she still wouldn't engage HC or teleport. I would have to manually teleport her to me.

1 hour ago, Rampdog said:

Sorry. Just got around to reading all this. 

 

I had the same problem with Ivy's HC and teleport. I understood that she would shut it off in the presence of the BoS if I became friendly with them. But when not in their vicinity she still wouldn't use HC or teleport. Even after I became an enemy of the BoS she still wouldn't engage HC or teleport. I would have to manually teleport her to me.

Yes, currently, the conditionals in the scene check for 2 conditions, Danse should be less than 14k units away or the BosJoined global is set to 1 (eg. Player accepted to join the Bos after the ArcJet quest). This will be fixed in the 5.2 update. The problem is; you can't override it in the console, because it's checked quite often.

Here, try this patch and let me know if Ivy now uses HyperCombat.

CompanionIvy5_1_HC_Patch.esp.esp

Hi

Not sure if this is the right place for this question, but here goes. 

Firstly, really enjoying the mod! I started a new runthrough just for this and it is so worth it. 

Unfortunately it feels like I am stuck. I have been through the sub-conscious section, "Into the Deep" worked through all the memory tapes and got to the point where I have to 'Talk to Mercy'. I start the conversation, and she makes her first speech, ending ...until you came along. Then it just stops. I guess I am supposed to respond with some dialogue? But I don't get that option. It just leaves them both staring at each other.

Any thoughts?

I do have a few other mods loaded, but nothing that affects dialogue etc. I have Def-UI 1.5.1 running, but I haven't had any other problems. 

Your ideas would be welcome, or even a console tweak to make the quest move forward?

Thanks,

K

5 hours ago, K.Cham said:

Hi

Not sure if this is the right place for this question, but here goes. 

Firstly, really enjoying the mod! I started a new runthrough just for this and it is so worth it. 

Unfortunately it feels like I am stuck. I have been through the sub-conscious section, "Into the Deep" worked through all the memory tapes and got to the point where I have to 'Talk to Mercy'. I start the conversation, and she makes her first speech, ending ...until you came along. Then it just stops. I guess I am supposed to respond with some dialogue? But I don't get that option. It just leaves them both staring at each other.

Any thoughts?

I do have a few other mods loaded, but nothing that affects dialogue etc. I have Def-UI 1.5.1 running, but I haven't had any other problems. 

Your ideas would be welcome, or even a console tweak to make the quest move forward?

Thanks,

K

Is Little Debby with you? She has to be present before it will continue.

23 hours ago, Reginald_001 said:

Yes, currently, the conditionals in the scene check for 2 conditions, Danse should be less than 14k units away or the BosJoined global is set to 1 (eg. Player accepted to join the Bos after the ArcJet quest). This will be fixed in the 5.2 update. The problem is; you can't override it in the console, because it's checked quite often.

 

 

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Here, try this patch and let me know if Ivy now uses HyperCombat.

 

CompanionIvy5_1_HC_Patch.esp.esp 8.55 kB · 1 download

 

 

 

Unfortunately, I'm way beyond that now, having become an enemy of the BoS. I'll try it on my next playthrough.

36 minutes ago, Rampdog said:

Unfortunately, I'm way beyond that now, having become an enemy of the BoS. I'll try it on my next playthrough.

In todays dev round I have removed the check for the BOS completely for 5.2. In 6.0 it will be implemented properly. With all of the development going on and the type of testing done, it was a bit of an oversight to implement it this way. I distinctly remember setting up a control quest for it so she checks for Bos distances properly, but I guess I did that during one of the dev-cycles where the CK crashed on me and the work was lost. That, OR the Mandela effect..

4 minutes ago, Reginald_001 said:

In todays dev round I have removed the check for the BOS completely for 5.2. In 6.0 it will be implemented properly. With all of the development going on and the type of testing done, it was a bit of an oversight to implement it this way. I distinctly remember setting up a control quest for it so she checks for Bos distances properly, but I guess I did that during one of the dev-cycles where the CK crashed on me and the work was lost. That, OR the Mandela effect..

 

 

LOL! No worries. I usually just begin the BoS quests to "check the box" before slaughtering the nazi bastards.

13 hours ago, Rampdog said:

Is Little Debby with you? She has to be present before it will continue.

Thanks, I worked out the lifts and that sorted it out. 

Brilliant modding! 

Thanks.

K