Devious Devices SE

[dan_5858]

I've been having trouble with furniture animations specifically with NPCs. When I first place them into the furniture it's fine. But then after about 30 seconds they will revert back to a standing pose and the furniture will disappear, occasionally appearing again and reverting back to the furniture pose for several seconds before disappearing again...and so forth.

 

Has anyone encountered this?

[Xilir]

Only have 20 mods active, still cant get the arms into the binder. Specifically Devious Devices Assets from QUI just wondering if thats the point of assets and the rest are fine

Edited May 28, 2023 by Xilir

[ck2modfan]

Questions on gags...

 

Is there a heavy bondage version of gags? 

 

I believe in DCL there is a timed lock feature. Does that exist in DD without DD?

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, Xilir said:

Only have 20 mods active, still cant get the arms into the binder. Specifically Devious Devices Assets from QUI just wondering if thats the point of assets and the rest are fine

 

Don't test using devices from assets. They don't have scripts attached. Use devices from expansion if you're testing.

[EpicGamerGame]

On 5/22/2023 at 7:39 PM, zarantha said:

 

Are you trying on a new game?
Is anything overwriting DD?

What do you have for mod install order? Plugin order looks ok, although joy of perspective has caused CTDs in the past with DD.

I did start a new game, and I don't believe anything is overwriting DD. I'll take off JoP and see if that fixes anything.

[EpicGamerGame]

59 minutes ago, EpicGamerGame said:

I did start a new game, and I don't believe anything is overwriting DD. I'll take off JoP and see if that fixes anything.

That fixed it!

[zarantha]

Just an FYI:

 

I am aware of the new CBBE update that adds more sliders. I have no plans to update DD's CBBE bodyslides until Ousinous has finished adding all the new sliders, which they alluded to doing in a future version.

[Tron91]

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

Just an FYI:

 

I am aware of the new CBBE update that adds more sliders. I have no plans to update DD's CBBE bodyslides until Ousinous has finished adding all the new sliders, which they alluded to doing in a future version.

 

Hmm, good to know. For now I will refrain from updating to the new CBBE then.

[zarantha]

52 minutes ago, Tron91 said:

 

Hmm, good to know. For now I will refrain from updating to the new CBBE then.

 

The screenshot below is from his discord. As long as your preset doesn't use the extra sliders, you shouldn't have any issue with morphs and would still get the other goodies. Now if someone makes a preset using the new sliders, that will cause mismatches in shape between the body and outfit. That said, when the next update does release, it will still take me a good amount of time to update all the outfits. Not looking forward to that!  

 

(This does not apply to 3BA users)

 

Edited May 29, 2023 by zarantha

[nerdyguy8]

I've run in to an issue, DD bound animation are not playing instead its just the games default idle. I run in to this issue before and fixed it by letting DD overwrite ZAZ. it did not work this time. I've tried reinstalling DD, ZAZ and FINS, running bodyslide again, double checking requirements. oh and this is running in vr.

[Equien]

is there a mod or a cheat that removes devices without going through all the ordeal? idc about roleplaying, and i'm playing with male characters and sometimes the devices don't look good or glitch and i want to take them out, i just want to equip and unequip like any other, and the chastity key rarely works

 

nvm I just found the restrains key console command, seems to be doing the job

Edited May 30, 2023 by Equien

[kodamant]

hey so its giving me the message of devious devices being outdated and hence disabled? do i ignore that or?

[Miauzi]

Vor 14 Minuten sagte Equien:

Gibt es einen Mod oder einen Cheat, der Geräte entfernt, ohne die ganze Tortur zu durchlaufen? Ich idc über Rollenspiele, und ich spiele mit männlichen Charakteren und manchmal sehen die Geräte nicht gut aus oder haben einen Defekt und ich möchte sie herausnehmen, ich möchte mich einfach wie alle anderen ausrüsten und ausrüsten, und der Keuschheitsschlüssel funktioniert selten

this mod will NOT move you or your game char any devices by itself.

you only get this through mods that BUILDING on this one

So which of these DD based mods are you using?

How do you get the devices?

Have you ever taken a closer look at the MCM - especially the first page!

[Gh0sTG0]

On 7/22/2020 at 1:30 AM, zarantha said:

Using DD 5.0 / 5.1 with DCL or Zaz?

1. If using DCL 8.5/8.4 and/or Zaz with DD 5.0: DCL-ZaZ HDT-SMP and other patches 20201204.7z
2. If using DCL 9.0 and Zaz: DCL 9.0 or higher overwrites "DCL-Zaz HDT-SMP and other patches 20201204.7z

Hi. Is this still needed with what named "ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023"?

[Icanlookatstuff]

I seem to be having an issue with all of the rope armbinders. They are all the same color (regular rope is black, red is black, white is black, etc.). My searches haven't brought up any similar issues to find a fix. All of the other rope items seem to be the correct colors as far as I've seen so far. I've tried rebuilding just the rope items in bodyslide but that didn't change anything. What can I do to get the armbinders to be their correct respective colors?

[serranna]

I'm hoping someone could help an idiot who can never keep a stable installation.

 

So I went ahead and officially upgraded to the newest DD. I somehow managed to create a few problems when doing so but I solved all (I think) but one.

 

Ebonite armbinders and elbowbinders are causing my game to go haywire. Only the ebonite ones. Leather ones are fine and other ebonite gear is fine. When I put one on, the screen starts a light show of white light and I can't see anything while the item is supposed to be on screen. Every other item I have tried (so far at least) looks just fine.

 

Spoiler

 

The item looks fine in the menu, and it looks fine when I look at it in outfit studio, just not when worn by a character. I have rerun bodyslide to no effect. Does anyone know what could be causing this? @zarantha? Sorry to ping you but you know everything. I'm assuming it's something dumb I'm doing.

 

I really dont want to have to reinstall DD. The uninstall/reinstall process takes a good 40-45 minutes on my PC.

 

Edit: maybe some other insight/clue as to what might be the problem? I was wrong about leather armbinders. They don't cause the visual glitch, but all the leather armbinders look like black armbinders. The screenshot below won't show it but the leather texture also looks slightly different than it normally does. Either way you can see white armbinder equipped but black showing on the character.

 

Spoiler

 

Edited May 31, 2023 by serranna
Added more info

[Equien]

18 hours ago, Miauzi said:

this mod will NOT move you or your game char any devices by itself.

you only get this through mods that BUILDING on this one

So which of these DD based mods are you using?

How do you get the devices?

Have you ever taken a closer look at the MCM - especially the first page!

 

i use devious interests, but mostly I just use console commands to give me the devices, so the restrain key work to get rid of them so far. so it's all good

[zarantha]

On 5/29/2023 at 8:45 PM, nerdyguy8 said:

I've run in to an issue, DD bound animation are not playing instead its just the games default idle. I run in to this issue before and fixed it by letting DD overwrite ZAZ. it did not work this time. I've tried reinstalling DD, ZAZ and FINS, running bodyslide again, double checking requirements. oh and this is running in vr.

 

If you are using nemesis too, you can use the unsupported DAR conversion on the troubleshooting post. otherwise, remove nemesis, reinstall DD and FNIS and rerun FNIS.

 

If you don't have nemesis, delete your fnis output folder, make sure your skyrim data folder is clean (delete data and reverify if you have to) and rerun fnis.

If it's still a problem remove all your mods except DD and it's requirements and test on a new game.

Edited May 31, 2023 by zarantha

[zarantha]

21 hours ago, kodamant said:

hey so its giving me the message of devious devices being outdated and hence disabled? do i ignore that or?

 

Make sure you did not install the old LE mods on top of this one. DD SE 5.2 contains DDa, DDi, DDx, DDc, DD for Him, DD BRRF. If ANY of those are installed separately, remove them.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, Gh0sTG0 said:

Hi. Is this still needed with what named "ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023"?

 

Are you on DD 5.0 or 5.1?

It's not needed with DD 5.2.

 

If you're asking about the chains in ZAZ, I don't know if ZAZ has been updated with the SMP fixes in that patch. Go ask on that page.

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, Icanlookatstuff said:

I seem to be having an issue with all of the rope armbinders. They are all the same color (regular rope is black, red is black, white is black, etc.). My searches haven't brought up any similar issues to find a fix. All of the other rope items seem to be the correct colors as far as I've seen so far. I've tried rebuilding just the rope items in bodyslide but that didn't change anything. What can I do to get the armbinders to be their correct respective colors?

 

Are you on 3ba? There's a bodyslide patch on the troubleshooting post. 

Beyond that, make sure you have engine fixes installed and working. it fixes some issues with texture swapping iirc.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, serranna said:

I'm hoping someone could help an idiot who can never keep a stable installation.

 

So I went ahead and officially upgraded to the newest DD. I somehow managed to create a few problems when doing so but I solved all (I think) but one.

 

Ebonite armbinders and elbowbinders are causing my game to go haywire. Only the ebonite ones. Leather ones are fine and other ebonite gear is fine. When I put one on, the screen starts a light show of white light and I can't see anything while the item is supposed to be on screen. Every other item I have tried (so far at least) looks just fine.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

The item looks fine in the menu, and it looks fine when I look at it in outfit studio, just not when worn by a character. I have rerun bodyslide to no effect. Does anyone know what could be causing this? @zarantha? Sorry to ping you but you know everything. I'm assuming it's something dumb I'm doing.

 

I really dont want to have to reinstall DD. The uninstall/reinstall process takes a good 40-45 minutes on my PC.

 

Edit: maybe some other insight/clue as to what might be the problem? I was wrong about leather armbinders. They don't cause the visual glitch, but all the leather armbinders look like black armbinders. The screenshot below won't show it but the leather texture also looks slightly different than it normally does. Either way you can see white armbinder equipped but black showing on the character.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

I vaugely remember something similar during the beta, but i couldn't reproduce or fixed it. Make sure your racemenu is as up to date as your skyrim version will allow, and bodyslide and outfit studio are up to date. Probably need to make sure FSMP isn't a really old version too. 

 

Try going in and out of first person.

 

If you're on 3ba, make sure you grab the bodyslide patch on the troubleshooting post. 

 

If it's still a problem, you could try pulling the bodyslide folder out of the old 5.1 archive or early 5.2 beta, install them as a new mod, build the armbinders and elbowbinders, then remove the old bodyslide files from your install once they're built. What changed is there are now zaps for the lacings, and some other oddness from someone redoing the meshes in blender or whereever. But for me, it was just doing some stretching between the hands until the pose was applied, and i don't even see that anymore.

[krzp]

After getting a permission from the author himself @iivanvv, here's a little add-on to the DD to DAR conversion with some new shiny petsuit animations.

 

You still need the main file!

Load the add-on after DD to DAR, or you won't get the updated walking ... ehm, crawling animations, only the new jumping ones.

(or you can just merge the two, it's totally up to you)

 

Here's the version converted to OAR

 

 

DD_DAR_more_petsuit_animations_by_iivanvv.7z

Edited August 16, 2023 by krzp

[Elsidia]

8 hours ago, Icanlookatstuff said:

They are all the same color (regular rope is black, red is black, white is black, etc.).

 

3 hours ago, serranna said:

Ebonite armbinders and elbowbinders are causing my game to go haywire.

 

31 minutes ago, zarantha said:

I vaugely remember something similar during the beta, but i couldn't reproduce or fixed it. M

Only theoretical fix is: install latest bodyslide mod. I'm not tested it, but seems this is only solution. I can't install latest bodyslide as i will lost all my work. Or if not latest bodyslide, then like as bodyslide, what zarantha have. I don't have know what number of bodyslide have zarantha.

[serranna]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

What changed is there are now zaps for the lacings,

 

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

Only theoretical fix is: install latest bodyslide mod.

 

So yeah, this was it. I was using a very old version of bodyslide, one that didnt support the zaps. Upgraded to newest version of bodyslide and the ebonite armbinders work fine. Safe to say if anyone else mentions this problem, this should be the recommended fix.

 

It did not fix the issue of all leather armbinder color variations showing up as black armbinders though. Things showing up as the wrong color crops up in a few other places too, like in the straitjacket catsuits, the straitjacket part is the right color but the catsuit part will always be black. As long as everything works now I'm happy, but if there is any insight as to what I could do about that I'm game.

 

Thanks, the game is back to being playable!