Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

23 minutes ago, pandamarie1983 said:

I am trying to use the new lola submission mod which requires this DD and ZAZ animations. If i load DD , i am fine, game loads. If i load DD and ZAZ , i crash. If i load only Zaz , I a ok, and load in. So trying to get this DD and ZAZ is causing me crash  

 

Which zaz are you trying to use? DD 5.2 SE and ZAZ 7.0 or 8.0+ don't have a problem working together. So the DD 5.2 download linked on the first post of this thread, plus the ZAZ found here: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5957-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/

 

If you're crashing with both in your list, make sure you aren't going over the 254 esp + esm limit.

[cavaleirojustica]

Is it possible to disable chastity? I want bondage to make fucking easier, not harder. To me the whole point of bondage is make holes vulnerable. Since starting my playthough there was exactly ONE sex scene despite hours, because DD-related quests, curses, events, etc... keep putting chastity back.

[flim]

hi, this time i am not sure if it is me or a bug.

 

I did rerun bodyslide thrice but the ankle chain or fetter are not appearing after being equipped.

 

I know the ankle chain is there when walking because the chain rattling sound is there and the item is show equipped.

 

Any things that i may have overlooked?

 

[Kimy]

4 hours ago, cavaleirojustica said:

Is it possible to disable chastity? I want bondage to make fucking easier, not harder. To me the whole point of bondage is make holes vulnerable. Since starting my playthough there was exactly ONE sex scene despite hours, because DD-related quests, curses, events, etc... keep putting chastity back.

 

DD does not put anything on you. It's just a library of devices with code to make them work. Devices are dropped/equipped by content mods. For that reason, there is no way to disable devices from the framework end. Some content mods come with toggles to disable certain devices.

[DonQuiWho]

1 hour ago, Kimy said:

 

DD does not put anything on you. It's just a library of devices with code to make them work. Devices are dropped/equipped by content mods. For that reason, there is no way to disable devices from the framework end. Some content mods come with toggles to disable certain devices.

 

Very true

 

But DD does have one built in, major, gameplay function, for those of us that use it, ie the DD crafting option

 

WRT that, is there any chance, PLEASE!, that that could have a quick update patch so it can be extended to add in some of the newer assets/restraints/etc?  Only insofar as it needs to add them to the book's crafting list.  If it's just 'extending a list', It can't be that much effort, surely?   I'd do it myself if I knew how ?

 

Reason for suggesting this is that the existing limited range available to craft now doesn't really provide for accessing the range of DDs in game for playing, eg, Paradise Halls etc based games.  There's ZAZ crafting, but the items available aren't as good, and are more easily 'broken' on NPCs, whereas DDs can be made to 'stick' better, using the like of Kharos mods

 

Sure, there's the ability to buy some of the better stuff, via DCL, at the Whip and Chain Inn, but that being limited to purchase of only one item of any type per visit is SO annoying!  ?

And that's not even takaing account of, nor even thinking about, the pain involved in playing through the Chloe quest for the umpteenth time on each new game just to get into the Inn in the first place  ?

 

And for those reading this now itching to write to say that I can get all these things by using AddItemMenu and the like, I know that, but that's a rubbish way to play the game.  Any fool can cheat. ?

 

Not complaining, @Kimy  just trying to ask nicely ?

 

DQW

 

 

 

 

[Zaflis]

If only key crafting and device crafting had their own books to learn from. I don't like long list of items in forge, it's already long enough from just vanilla items.

[Serenity_XXI]

Hey quick question, so I installed Devious Devices SE, ran FNIS, ran the game, MCM menu registered successfully all appears to have been installed without errors.

The only problem is that my character's default walk animation has been replaced by the bound walk animation.

My character has no bondage devices equipped. Why is this happening, and how to resolve this?

Thanks!

[Serenity_XXI]

1 hour ago, SwissCheeseConnoisseur said:

Hey quick question, so I installed Devious Devices SE, ran FNIS, ran the game, MCM menu registered successfully all appears to have been installed without errors.

The only problem is that my character's default walk animation has been replaced by the bound walk animation.

My character has no bondage devices equipped. Why is this happening, and how to resolve this?

Thanks!

Okay I think it's because I ran Nemesis after FNIS... if I run FNIS without nemesis afterwards this seems to solve the issue. One thing though I don't have FNIS Sexy Move working without running nemesis, isn't that weird? I mean the mod is literally has the word "FNIS" in it and yet is needs nemesis not fnis to work?!

EDIT: Okay never mind, I ran nemesis again (after running FNIS) and everything seems working correctly now, including FNIS sexy mone. (Though I'm still not sure why FNIS alone isn't enough for sexy move to work lol).

Edited February 28, 2023 by SwissCheeseConnoisseur

[zarantha]

13 hours ago, flim said:

hi, this time i am not sure if it is me or a bug.

 

I did rerun bodyslide thrice but the ankle chain or fetter are not appearing after being equipped.

 

I know the ankle chain is there when walking because the chain rattling sound is there and the item is show equipped.

 

Any things that i may have overlooked?

 

 

 

Ankle chains aren't a bodyslide issue - they have no bodyslide.

 

Try stripping naked or at least take off your footwear. Some items will cause them not to be visible when equipped, like the restrictive boots iirc. I will probably revisit that at some point. I'm not sure if it can be fixed or not.

[Elsidia]

15 hours ago, flim said:

I know the ankle chain is there when walking because the chain rattling sound is there and the item is show equipped.

Those are from DCL not DD.

You need DCL-ZaZ HDT-SMP and other patches 20201204 from troubleshooting post section DD SE 5.0 / 5.1 (old versions and unsupported) and DCL 9.0

Link: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se/?do=findComment&comment=3077930

 

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

Those are from DCL not DD.

You need DCL-ZaZ HDT-SMP and other patches 20201204 from troubleshooting post section DD SE 5.0 / 5.1 (old versions and unsupported) and DCL 9.0

Link: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se/?do=findComment&comment=3077930

 

 

Ankle chains are in DD, they're called fetters or something like that. Them not showing up is something I verified a few pages back. I expect it's priority, but if i increase the priority, it might cause the boot to show up properly.

 

Priority for the fetters is 10, restrictive boots are 20. I haven't tested, but I'm almost certain if I increase the priority of the chains, the foot part or the calf part of the restrictive boots will disappear. Just checked though and they both have slot 53. Could maybe remove slot 53 from the restrictive boots. hmm, still thinking what to do.
 

Spoiler

 

Edit: Here was the other bug report: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se/?do=findComment&comment=3993355

I confirmed here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se/?do=findComment&comment=3994586

 

Edited February 28, 2023 by zarantha

[Anunya]

7 hours ago, SwissCheeseConnoisseur said:

Okay I think it's because I ran Nemesis after FNIS... if I run FNIS without nemesis afterwards this seems to solve the issue. One thing though I don't have FNIS Sexy Move working without running nemesis, isn't that weird? I mean the mod is literally has the word "FNIS" in it and yet is needs nemesis not fnis to work?!

EDIT: Okay never mind, I ran nemesis again (after running FNIS) and everything seems working correctly now, including FNIS sexy mone. (Though I'm still not sure why FNIS alone isn't enough for sexy move to work lol).

 

I can't tell you why that is the case for you, but I can tell you that Sexy Move works fine with only FNIS on my set-up. I've never even downloaded Nemesis.

[Anunya]

You can craft DD keys in-game?

 

I've been playing with DD for years, and I never realized. What are the pre-requisites to be able to craft them?

[serranna]

37 minutes ago, Anunya said:

What are the pre-requisites to be able to craft them?

 

Go to the college of Winterhold, enter the Arcaneum and find the key to the forbidden bookshelf on the Desk the Orc sits in. Find the forbidden bookcase behind the desk and a bit to the right. In there is a book that if you read will allow you to craft keys using iron ingots.

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

Ankle chains are in DD,

cant confirm this

zadx_ZaZ_IronChainShacklesInventory "Iron Fetters (Chain)" [ARMO:0C02F517]  from DD 5.2

dcur_anklechains "Ankle Chains" [ARMO:1006F30C] from DCL, so iron Fetters work on me with DD 5.2

as for ankle chains i have that fix.

UPD: and yes boots override ankle chains priority

UPD: and boots now will hide any ankle cuffs as those have 53 unnamed slot used and priority is bigger as cuffs

Edited February 28, 2023 by Elsidia

[DonQuiWho]

2 hours ago, Anunya said:

You can craft DD keys in-game?

 

I've been playing with DD for years, and I never realized. What are the pre-requisites to be able to craft them?

 

You do the 'Forbidden Bookshelf' Quest ...except it doesn't show up as a quest (at least not that I've found), but, Hey! ....?‍♂️

 

Here's what you do.  I try to start off every playthrough with this, but, dependent on the mods loaded,  it can sometimes be fairly tricky to do

 

1 - Go to the College of Winterhold.  Somehow.  Then go through ...

 

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:First_Lessons

 

FWIW, I normally go to the entrance and meet Faralda, the mage gatekeeper, first making sure I have the magic level needed to do the entry test, and money needed to buy the Spell tome needed to pass it, which Faralda should offer to sell to you if you don't have it already. 

 

(NB  If you use a mod like Sexlab Survival, you may not actually start off with enough magika to cast the spell. nor the speech skill to talk her into letting you past, so make sure you can boost these when needed, should that be necessary)

 

Then I do whatever parts of the College intro I want, just so as to get them over and done wirth ?

 

2 - Then go to the Arcaneum.  Turn Right once inside the main entrance, and take the entry up to the first floor. 

 

Your aim is to get the contents of the Forbidden Bookshelf.  On the desk of the librarian, Urag gro-Shub ,IIRC, there is a note and a key.  You have to STEAL these.  Then, from facing his desk, go to the 3rd or 4th cupboard behind it, to your right.  It's called the Forbidden Bookshelf.  Again you have to to unlock it BY STEALTH and STEAL the contents.  Dont get caught doing either of those!

 

3 - 'Read' the contents (can't remember exactly which books actually matter but just open them all in the inventory)

 

4 - Go to a forge and, if in posession of the correct raw materials, you should now be able to craft Restraint Keys, Chastity Keys, Piercing Removal Tools and a bunch of DD Restraints.  As usual, if not immediately craftable, you can see what you will beed to have to craft each item

 

Then, if it's your thing, you can use these to go out, enslave people, and have them wear DDs .... ?

 

Hope that helps

 

DQW

[DonQuiWho]

2 hours ago, serranna said:

 

Go to the college of Winterhold, enter the Arcaneum and find the key to the forbidden bookshelf on the Desk the Orc sits in. Find the forbidden bookcase behind the desk and a bit to the right. In there is a book that if you read will allow you to craft keys using iron ingots.

 

I could have saved myself the time  ?

 

Go and craft yourself a DD gag and do some penance ?

 

?

 

DQW

[flim]

7 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Those are from DCL not DD.

You need DCL-ZaZ HDT-SMP and other patches 20201204 from troubleshooting post section DD SE 5.0 / 5.1 (old versions and unsupported) and DCL 9.0

Link: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se/?do=findComment&comment=3077930

 

ok, thank for the link. will try it out.

[flim]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

 

Ankle chains aren't a bodyslide issue - they have no bodyslide.

 

Try stripping naked or at least take off your footwear. Some items will cause them not to be visible when equipped, like the restrictive boots iirc. I will probably revisit that at some point. I'm not sure if it can be fixed or not.

You are right. when i took off the restrictive boot, the chain is there.

[Anunya]

18 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

 

You do the 'Forbidden Bookshelf' Quest ...except it doesn't show up as a quest (at least not that I've found), but, Hey! ....?‍♂️

 

Here's what you do.  I try to start off every playthrough with this, but, dependent on the mods loaded,  it can sometimes be fairly tricky to do

 

1 - Go to the College of Winterhold.  Somehow.  Then go through ...

 

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:First_Lessons

 

FWIW, I normally go to the entrance and meet Faralda, the mage gatekeeper, first making sure I have the magic level needed to do the entry test, and money needed to buy the Spell tome needed to pass it, which Faralda should offer to sell to you if you don't have it already. 

 

(NB  If you use a mod like Sexlab Survival, you may not actually start off with enough magika to cast the spell. nor the speech skill to talk her into letting you past, so make sure you can boost these when needed, should that be necessary)

 

Then I do whatever parts of the College intro I want, just so as to get them over and done wirth ?

 

2 - Then go to the Arcaneum.  Turn Right once inside the main entrance, and take the entry up to the first floor. 

 

Your aim is to get the contents of the Forbidden Bookshelf.  On the desk of the librarian, Urag gro-Shub ,IIRC, there is a note and a key.  You have to STEAL these.  Then, from facing his desk, go to the 3rd or 4th cupboard behind it, to your right.  It's called the Forbidden Bookshelf.  Again you have to to unlock it BY STEALTH and STEAL the contents.  Dont get caught doing either of those!

 

3 - 'Read' the contents (can't remember exactly which books actually matter but just open them all in the inventory)

 

4 - Go to a forge and, if in posession of the correct raw materials, you should now be able to craft Restraint Keys, Chastity Keys, Piercing Removal Tools and a bunch of DD Restraints.  As usual, if not immediately craftable, you can see what you will beed to have to craft each item

 

Then, if it's your thing, you can use these to go out, enslave people, and have them wear DDs .... ?

 

Hope that helps

 

DQW

 

That helps, yes! I think I've done the quest in a play through a long time ago, or at least part of it, but never realized what it as about. I'll definitely follow through with it on my next mage guild game... not sure how it fits in some of my others though.

 

Thanks for the help

[DonQuiWho]

6 hours ago, Anunya said:

 

That helps, yes! I think I've done the quest in a play through a long time ago, or at least part of it, but never realized what it as about. I'll definitely follow through with it on my next mage guild game... not sure how it fits in some of my others though.

 

Thanks for the help

 

I use it alongside the 'Devious Helpers' mod, and equip my Followers with sets of keys

 

There is then a chance that the PC & Followers don't get absolutely stuck somewhere down a dungeon trapped in Kimy's Cursed Loot, or have been wrapped up in DDs following an encounter with bad people in the Bane Master/AndrewLRGs version of Defeat or even after a Devious Carraiges incident.   And with Kharos mod, it also guarantees that Followers DD's do 'stick' visually, and practically

 

If you limit the number of keys availablle, (I normally give everyone 5 restraint keys, 3 Piercing Removal Tools and 1 Chastity Key - and leave some spares in the horse's saddle)) assuming that you haven't had the keys nicked by the bad ppl/DCL event, your exploring party can normally survive at least a couple of bad encounters, but you may still find that you have to then ration the key use, ie after encounters events that have left the PC and NPCs in multiple DDs, as it may not be wise to free all the party from every DD after each event before you complete the dungeon/quest etc.  Because if you then have another restricting encounter, you can be really stuck.  So you therefore have to make a strategic choice as to which Follower(s) you might 'protect', and which might just be along for the rest of their, totally trussed up, ride

 

Of course, when you have eventually run out of keys, next losing encounter might well see you trying to shuffle your butt all the way to a blacksmith etc somewhere to release the PC and all the Follower Party, so the risk is still there

 

Anyway, that's FWIW.  Everyone has their own gameplay style.  I just like to play the base game, whilst setting myself up with a proper challenge in doing so, and just not not cheat. 

 

So, hopefully, this little diversionary spiel int 'DD crafting' might help some others by providing them with a new style of gameplay, to add to their own repertoire ?

 

DQW

[Naraku02]

It's official, i'm cursed...

 

Just to make sure : Chloe and the dollmaker are part or this mod ? Or are they from devious lore/adventures ?

 

I was able to find and correct the problem with the non appearing ropes (somehow, the models weren't uploaded when I installed the mod...). Then, I did Chloe's mission, followed by courrier in chains, after wich, I was enslaved by the dollmaker who send me to the ropemaster in Markarth... and it was after getting free from the first rope bondage that everything went utterly wrong.

 

The game started to slow down to a crawl, until litteraly freezing (with the sounds of the wind and the music still behind). Going back to the save I did after getting chained by Nazeem helped, but trying to go back to other saves that were made right after the first moment with the ropemaster created the damn glitch again. even using fast travel to move away from markarth (wich works in Fallout 4 when that glitch appears) didn't help

 

Going back to Nazeem save is... well, not something I would like to do (it would make me lose two hours of gameplay T.T), but before making the decision, I would like to understand what went wrong since... Well, I put everything where it was needed... So I REALLY don't understand what went wrong this time.

 

(Oh, and Using ropes doesn't make any animation appears : it's like my dragonborn is just dressed with the damn things : she's walking and moving like always)

[Herowynne]

2 hours ago, Naraku02 said:

Just to make sure : Chloe and the dollmaker are part or this mod ? Or are they from devious lore/adventures ?

 

Chloe and the Dollmaker are part of Deviously Cursed Loot.

 

 

[Naraku02]

15 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

 

Chloe and the Dollmaker are part of Deviously Cursed Loot.

 

 thank you

 

[killthesun]

I didn't touch any sliders, and the 3BA version looks like this (the regular cbbe version looks fine)

What am I supposed to do?

Or was this intended for nip slip fetishists