SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.66b - 01/18/2024

[FauxFurry]

2 hours ago, Sillius_Maximus said:

This is gonna sound weird but...

 

To your knowledge, is there anything  in sexlab. that:

 

as you fuck a creature, your relationship rank changes?  is there a setting i might have missed?

 

The reason for the question, is (TLDR)  after 14 hours of no problems in game play, on hour 15 pretty much "all" dungeon mobs turned passive....    given that i dont have anything that modifies draughr beyond whatever is added or changed by sexlab, all the mobs - vampires, spiders, draugur- turning friendly has got to eiter be a vanilla game bug or beats me... whats weird- is at no point in that 15 hours have i added, removed, or changed mod settings, load order, etc... I use very few overhauls (basically wildcat and morrowloot and better vampires, disabling those did nothing helpful)

 

legit-  according to the console, my relationship rank with draugur in dungeons is "Acquaintance"

 

anyway, as the question pertains to sexlab?

Did someone or something kill a creature just as a sex act started? That can happen when using mods which end combat by turning all combatants passive to begin a sex act. 

[Sillius_Maximus]

1 hour ago, osmelmc said:

Not really but few Mod can do something similar like Defeat, Death Alternative or Sanguines Debauchery.

And usually for those is just for Error and easy fixes with one option on the corresponding MCM.

 

1 hour ago, FauxFurry said:

Did someone or something kill a creature just as a sex act started? That can happen when using mods which end combat by turning all combatants passive to begin a sex act. 

Osmelmc, at present im not using any of those mods and havent on this save.

Faux-  you might be on to something.... while im not using mods that prematurely end combat  I suppose there are scenarios where It might have pacified mobs..  Ill reinstall sexlab and see what happens.

hmm, I did a reinstall (using the mcm stuff), no change...  well idk...

[prinyo]

2 hours ago, Sillius_Maximus said:

hmm, I did a reinstall (using the mcm stuff), no change...  well idk...

Did you try to attack them? Kill one or two of them, that usually helps when something similar happens in my game.

[Fotogen]

NPC aggresion is controlled by many things.

1. Factions. PredatorFaction(wolf) hates PrayFaction(deer). So wolf attacks deer on sight.

PC is by default in PlayerFaction. Some factions by default hate anyone that is in PlayerFaction.

On the other hand, if you become a member on lets say PredatorFaction, wolfs kinda like you.

 

2. NPCs base aggresion level. Its a setting in CK. Some are more passive, some super crazy. Faction and this aggresion level sort of stack, multiply each other.

Even if you are neutral with some faction, a super manic may still go hostile.

And if you hit a neutral with a big stick, they will go super crazy.

Calm and Frenzy spell also control this.

 

I'd start with faction. Maybe you are no longer a member of PlayerFaction or you are mamber of "bad guys faction".

I think ReSaver show this. Open save, scroll down to NPC_, check the first one refid=..000007. faction ranks.

[mc13miks]

Here's a stupid question: is there anything like the original matchmaker from the initial release way back when?  Like, simply 2 spells, one for you, one for your target or targets, and you all just started an animation.  Doesn't need to be exactly that, but anything simple to initiate animation without dialog or quests or nonsense.  I found mass match maker, but it doesn't seem quite right, unless I'm vastly misunderstanding the description.

[Vyxenne]

5 hours ago, mc13miks said:

Here's a stupid question: is there anything like the original matchmaker from the initial release way back when?

Use Oldrim Matchmaker in SSE. All the available info on what works in SSE (and what doesn't) can be found on the SSE Conversion Tracking page.

[memekalka]

I meet a new problem. I installed many anims, and i have aboute 15 FF anims, but with sexlab i can play only 5. It can be randomly after reinstalling sexlab, but no more than 5.

 

P.S. I use Mass Match Maker, maybe this is the problem, so, what you can advice me?

[OsmelMC]

27 minutes ago, memekalka said:

I meet a new problem. I installed many anims, and i have aboute 15 FF anims, but with sexlab i can play only 5. It can be randomly after reinstalling sexlab, but no more than 5.

 

P.S. I use Mass Match Maker, maybe this is the problem, so, what you can advice me?

Mass Match Maker use "Lesbian" Tag to filter FF Animations as default. Check if all yours 15 Lesbian Animations have the Tag or change the configuration of Mass Match Maker.

[memekalka]

23 minutes ago, osmelmc said:

Mass Match Maker use "Lesbian" Tag to filter FF Animations as default. Check if all yours 15 Lesbian Animations have the Tag or change the configuration of Mass Match Maker.

i cant to run skyrim yet, but where i can edit mass match maker? i thought that it add only spells to run sexlab

 

Anyway thank you i will check

[OsmelMC]

4 minutes ago, memekalka said:

i cant to run skyrim yet, but where i can edit mass match maker? i thought that it add only spells to run sexlab

 

Anyway thank you i will check

Mass Match Maker have his own MCM with all types of options to add or remove spell's and Animation filters.

 

I prefer use the original MatchMaker from Ashal with my SexLab Utility Plus and SexLab Tools.

[Sillius_Maximus]

10 hours ago, prinyo said:

Did you try to attack them? Kill one or two of them, that usually helps when something similar happens in my game.

 

9 hours ago, Fotogen said:

NPC aggresion is controlled by many things.

1. Factions. PredatorFaction(wolf) hates PrayFaction(deer). So wolf attacks deer on sight.

PC is by default in PlayerFaction. Some factions by default hate anyone that is in PlayerFaction.

On the other hand, if you become a member on lets say PredatorFaction, wolfs kinda like you.

 

2. NPCs base aggresion level. Its a setting in CK. Some are more passive, some super crazy. Faction and this aggresion level sort of stack, multiply each other.

Even if you are neutral with some faction, a super manic may still go hostile.

And if you hit a neutral with a big stick, they will go super crazy.

Calm and Frenzy spell also control this.

 

I'd start with faction. Maybe you are no longer a member of PlayerFaction or you are mamber of "bad guys faction".

I think ReSaver show this. Open save, scroll down to NPC_, check the first one refid=..000007. faction ranks.

@prinyo,   Yea-   In most cases I can walk up to a draugur or a vampire.  Attack it, and it will not attack me back at all.  Once I kill it- nothing else aggros.  The second alternative to that has been- Ill attack it, it aggros.  but NOTHING else does. SO there could be 10 draugur..  I walk in, they are all passive.  I attack D1, it does nothing and i kill it.  D2-D10 are still passive.    Alternatively, I attack D1, D1 fights back.  D2-D10 are still completely passive.


@Fotogen

Here is the information.   I found it under  Save xx---> Changeforms ---> NPC_

 

Spoiler

IF i am reading right, Im gonna 

 

equate the formid with its mod in blue 

 

 

 

 

ANGEFORM

RefID: DEFAULT:00000007

ChangeFlags:

₃₁	₃₀	₂₉	₂₈	₂₇	₂₆	₂₅	₂₄	₂₃	₂₂	₂₁	₂₀	₁₉	₁₈	₁₇	₁₆	₁₅	₁₄	₁₃	₁₂	₁₁	₁₀	₀₉	₀₈	₀₇	₀₆	₀₅	₀₄	₀₃	₀₂	₀₁	₀₀
0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	1	0

DataLength: INT16
Type: NPC_ (9 : 45)
Version: 78
Length: 267 bytes

1 attached instances:

• ScriptInstance - ActorBase: *refid=DEFAULT:00000007 (000001da88377ec0)

ANALYZE RAW DATA: DEFAULT:00000007

---

NPC:

FullName: Morgana

Base stats: 310000003200320011000000640064000000000032000000

20 faction ranks.

• Rank 0 with DEFAULT:0009e0c9  Skyrim  --- >Faction ---> MagicAllegienceFaction
• Rank 0 with DEFAULT:0008f3e8 Skyrim  --- >Faction ---> MagicCharmFaction
• Rank 0 with DEFAULT:000f2073 Skyrim --- >Faction ---> PlayerBedOwndership
• Rank 0 with DEFAULT:00000db1 Skyrim --- >Faction ---> PlayerFaction
• Rank 0 with FORMIDX:04017ebd Dragonborn --- >Faction ---> TameDragonFaction
• Rank 0 with FORMIDX:04031846 Dragonborn --- >Faction ---> DLc2 Wyrmfaction
• Rank 0 with FORMIDX:3800d045 SOS-Smurf avg addon
• Rank -1 with DEFAULT:0004e1e1 Skyrim --- >Faction ---> Mq101PlayerFriendFaction
• Rank 0 with FORMIDX:0c07c025 sexlab aroused ---> Faction --> sla_Timerate
• Rank 7 with FORMIDX:0c025837 sexlab aroused ---> Faction --> sla_Exposure
• Rank 8 with FORMIDX:0c03fc36 sexlab aroused ---> Faction --> sla_arousal
• Rank -2 with FORMIDX:0c077f87 sexlab aroused  ---> Faction --> sla_naked
• Rank 0 with FORMIDX:482bbab6 Hunterborn cant find
• Rank 1 with FORMIDX:482bbab7 Hunterborn cant find
• Rank 0 with FORMIDX:482cfefd Hunterborn cant find
• Rank 0 with FORMIDX:482caddd Hunterborn cant find
• Rank -1 with DEFAULT:000b80fe Skyrim --- >Faction ---> WEPrisonerFreedCombatPrisonerFaction
• Rank 0 with DEFAULT:0002997f Skyrim  --- >Faction ---> SpiderFaction
• Rank -1 with DEFAULT:0006f8f3 Skyrim --- >Faction ---> WICrowdSpectator
• Rank -1 with FORMIDX:2601c3d1 ZZestrusMimic  cant find

1 spells.

• DEFAULT:001031d3  Skyrim

0 levelled spells.

4 shouts.

• FORMIDX:260171bb   ZZestrusMimic
• FORMIDX:2600c52d ZZestrusMimic
• FORMIDX:26004889  ZZestrusMimic
• FORMIDX:26013bbf  ZZestrusMimic

 

[memekalka]

44 minutes ago, osmelmc said:

Mass Match Maker have his own MCM with all types of options to add or remove spell's and Animation filters.

 

I prefer use the original MatchMaker from Ashal with my SexLab Utility Plus and SexLab Tools.

thank you, its worked, but should i add some tags, for example, for FM, FMF etc. anims? Or they will work with this filter normally?

[Fotogen]

2 hours ago, Sillius_Maximus said:

Rank 0 with DEFAULT:0002997f Skyrim  --- >Faction ---> SpiderFaction

You are member of SpiderFaction and so friend or ally with many other monster factions.

[Sillius_Maximus]

8 hours ago, Fotogen said:

You are member of SpiderFaction and so friend or ally with many other monster factions.

So, I "think" I might know what caused that- im trying to figure out how to create a script to change into a spider.  I coppied over from what i could see all the "beast form" stuff, scripts, etc  and subbed out keywords, factions, etc  and subbed in spider..  and- this gets even more off topic,, but My understanding is it shouldnt activate unless i try out the spell.. unless by simply adding the spell, i added myself to said faction...  anyway- ive removed my mod- all the scripts, etc from all folders- gonna see if that removes it..  Ill edit this post accordingly.

 

Other than that- there are no other spider mods- beyond what is added with "vanila sexlab /aroused /mnc"  stuff.  which to my knowledge has never presented with this kind of issue.....

@Fotogen  Thanks for the help, I never knew one could dig into resaver quite that deep. (honestly havent ever had a known reason to use it, so never did)

 

[ParadoxRegiment]

Okay, so new issue. I've gotten everything to run properly but when I load the game it seems that all non-human NPCs are stuck in a T-Pose (or whatever the equivalent for animals is) position and are unable to move. When looking in the SexLab MCM it's giving me question marks for SexLab Framework Idles and SexLab Framework Creature Idles. Does anyone know how to fix this or able to link me to the files needed?

 

Edit: I think I figured it out (somehow). Dunno what exactly I did but everything with SL seem to be working now.

[lurar]

On 3/21/2020 at 6:47 AM, Ashal said:

 

FYI, in a fit of productivity the other day; I've edited my dev build so it detects whether or not MfgFix is installed. So this won't be needed next update.

 

If the plugin is detected, expressions and voice stuff will use the more reliable mfgfix commands instead of the ones from SKSE.

Sooo... When can we expect the next update?

[Ashal]

I'm getting  serious about development again so I can finally get this damn build out of beta.  Just spent a good 6 hours getting my skryim se back into testing and development state again with everything up to date and another few hours actually playing with the mod for once to get a feel for things again.

 

So once again, I must ask, what are the current longstanding bugs or api requests people have? I really don't want to go over 30+ pages of posts here to piece it together. So, if there is something that you feel really needs to be addressed in the next update, TELL ME NOW.

 

The major things on my current TODO list are as follows:

• Finish the new hook system
• Increase max animation registry limit again
• A targeted npc spell for editing their sexlab related settings easily

[FauxFurry]

2 minutes ago, Ashal said:

I'm getting  serious about development again so I can finally get this damn build out of beta.  Just spent a good 6 hours getting my skryim se back into testing and development state again with everything up to date.

 

So once again, I must ask, what are the current longstanding bugs or api requests people have? I really don't want to go over 30+ pages of posts here to piece it together. So, if there is something that you feel really needs to be addressed in the next update, TELL ME NOW.

Is it possible to use this address library to make at least the plug-in portion version independent?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32444

[Ashal]

3 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

Is it possible to use this address library to make at least the plug-in portion version independent?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32444

At this stage in SexLab's late life, I have no interest in altering the mods dependency requirements. Would just be a support nightmare. Besides, version updates (For skse and such) usually aren't more than a week behind anyways. Absolutely no interest in supporting people on older versions in any case.

[prometheusx]

I wish for faster animation start times. 

[LewdZenn]

3 hours ago, Ashal said:

I'm getting  serious about development again so I can finally get this damn build out of beta.  Just spent a good 6 hours getting my skryim se back into testing and development state again with everything up to date and another few hours actually playing with the mod for once to get a feel for things again.

 

So once again, I must ask, what are the current longstanding bugs or api requests people have? I really don't want to go over 30+ pages of posts here to piece it together. So, if there is something that you feel really needs to be addressed in the next update, TELL ME NOW.

 

The major things on my current TODO list are as follows:

• Finish the new hook system
• Increase max animation registry limit again
• A targeted npc spell for editing their sexlab related settings easily

If possible, remove all the older animations and maybe do a FOMOD so users can choose whether they want to install the default animations or not? That precious animation space could go towards some of the newer animations being released nowadays.

[Fotogen]

Faster scene start. Less, how to say, clonky, mechanical, ugly will also do.

 

 

[4nk8r]

What Fotogen is saying.  Reduce the time it takes to align actors/setup scenes/start animations.  Things seem much slower to start in the SSE version than I remember them being in the LE version.  If nothing else were ever added to or changed with the SSE vesion of Sexlab, this would be the one thing I want.

[4nk8r]

4 hours ago, Ashal said:

At this stage in SexLab's late life, I have no interest in altering the mods dependency requirements. Would just be a support nightmare. Besides, version updates (For skse and such) usually aren't more than a week behind anyways. Absolutely no interest in supporting people on older versions in any case.

That version library, assuming meh321 maintains it in a timely manner, would mean you'd only ever have to make that 1 DLL for it (and 1 for PapyrusUtil).  Should meh321 drop the ball, you'd simply be back to providing the update as you've indicated.  Seems to be 2 fewer things you have to worry about going forward should it all work out.

[shardoom]

5 hours ago, Ashal said:

At this stage in SexLab's late life, I have no interest in altering the mods dependency requirements. Would just be a support nightmare. Besides, version updates (For skse and such) usually aren't more than a week behind anyways. Absolutely no interest in supporting people on older versions in any case.

 

Can we get a new animation toggle so we can choose which animations can play on scenes that go to a bed?

 

There are some animations I really like but I choose to have them toggled off simply because when they get chosen for a bed scene they dont fit on, or just end up clipping through headboards and footboards because the actors move around.