Buzhidao Posted October 18, 2018 Author Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Canderous89 said: No. Sorry I was asking about the beyond heresy fix Oh, right, sorry. That patch is only for regular Lesbocracy and you can only get it here. It's not compatible with the CK2Plus version.
Donky Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Lesbocracy is the renamed to School of sappho ? so can I uncheck it?
Buzhidao Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Donky said: Lesbocracy is the renamed to School of sappho ? so can I uncheck it? Yes. Read the "Before You Begin" page on Steam Workshop for other important info.
Qzatre Posted October 20, 2018 Posted October 20, 2018 It may be a stupid questions but still. If i want to play with [CK2] Dark World Tweaks 1.9.3 I should play with Sappho or Lesbocrasy ? And what is the difference between Sappho and Lesbocracy ? Is there going to be content for tribal rulers such as in Lesbocracy's planned ones ?
lockeslylcrit Posted October 20, 2018 Posted October 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Quazar said: [CK2] Dark World Tweaks 1.9.3 I should play with Sappho or Lesbocrasy ? Quote For Dark World Beyond Heresy and School of Sappho/Lesbocracy users: Install Dark World Tweaks as normal. Download the DWTW Compatibility Patch Unzip into your My Documents/Paradox Interactive/Crusader Kings II/mod/ folder As far as I can tell, Lesbocracy is the new name for School of Sappho. Use Lesbocracy instead. The DWTW Compatibility Patch only works with the Loverslab version as I haven't yet delved into the code of the Steam version. If there are no major changes from LL and Steam versions (namely, succession_types.txt) then you can unzip the zip file you get with the Steam version into your /mod/ folder and move the succession_types.txt from the compatibility patch over to the proper folder.
HiddenPlayer625 Posted October 20, 2018 Posted October 20, 2018 I'm not getting the option to convert the wife of other rulers nor the option to create a bastard (regular/strong/genius). Has anyone else encountered this issue? What's the fix? I can force induct prisoners though. Since the society doesn't get too powerful, I can't marry lover (I guess that's the reason). I'm using v1.7 on the base game v2.8.1. Can't find the conceive child decision: https://imgur.com/LfBf5KBhttps://imgur.com/edT9dpghttps://imgur.com/xZyb9XK Can't convert: https://imgur.com/QjiKHP0 Can't marry lover from society: https://imgur.com/FzmC9RM P.S. Cash, piety and prestige pumped up so at the beginning so that any condition check for events is met.
lockeslylcrit Posted October 20, 2018 Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, HiddenPlayer625 said: I'm not getting the option to convert the wife of other rulers nor the option to create a bastard (regular/strong/genius). Has anyone else encountered this issue? What's the fix? I can force induct prisoners though. Since the society doesn't get too powerful, I can't marry lover (I guess that's the reason). I'm using v1.7 on the base game v2.8.1. Can't find the conceive child decision: https://imgur.com/LfBf5KBhttps://imgur.com/edT9dpghttps://imgur.com/xZyb9XK Can't convert: https://imgur.com/QjiKHP0 Can't marry lover from society: https://imgur.com/FzmC9RM P.S. Cash, piety and prestige pumped up so at the beginning so that any condition check for events is met. I can tell you that the convert needs has_society_currency_minor_trigger = yes which isn't programmed into the scripted_triggers code
Buzhidao Posted October 20, 2018 Author Posted October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Quazar said: It may be a stupid questions but still. If i want to play with [CK2] Dark World Tweaks 1.9.3 I should play with Sappho or Lesbocrasy ? And what is the difference between Sappho and Lesbocracy ? Is there going to be content for tribal rulers such as in Lesbocracy's planned ones ? School of Sappho will be left in its current state for people with many mods that might have compatibility issues. That means no new content. Lesbocracy will be developed further and updated. 2 hours ago, lockeslylcrit said: I can tell you that the convert needs has_society_currency_minor_trigger = yes which isn't programmed into the scripted_triggers code They have that. It's the 150 Inner Beauty condition. 3 hours ago, HiddenPlayer625 said: I'm not getting the option to convert the wife of other rulers nor the option to create a bastard (regular/strong/genius). Has anyone else encountered this issue? What's the fix? I can force induct prisoners though. Since the society doesn't get too powerful, I can't marry lover (I guess that's the reason). I'm using v1.7 on the base game v2.8.1. Can't find the conceive child decision: https://imgur.com/LfBf5KBhttps://imgur.com/edT9dpghttps://imgur.com/xZyb9XK Can't convert: https://imgur.com/QjiKHP0 Can't marry lover from society: https://imgur.com/FzmC9RM P.S. Cash, piety and prestige pumped up so at the beginning so that any condition check for events is met. I don't know which version of the mod you're using. I can see that it's School of Sappho, but it's either an older version, or you're trying to use it alongside Lesbocracy, which is a bad idea and you shouldn't do that ever. Update to the latest version of School of Sappho (or better yet - replace it with Lesbocracy), and see if the issues persist. Can't conceive child: maybe your character is already pregnant. For other problems check the FAQ on Steam or read the main page of the mod on Loverslab.
HiddenPlayer625 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 20 hours ago, Buzhidao said: I don't know which version of the mod you're using. I can see that it's School of Sappho, but it's either an older version, or you're trying to use it alongside Lesbocracy, which is a bad idea and you shouldn't do that ever. Update to the latest version of School of Sappho (or better yet - replace it with Lesbocracy), and see if the issues persist. Can't conceive child: maybe your character is already pregnant. For other problems check the FAQ on Steam or read the main page of the mod on Loverslab. Well it's Version 1.7 and it is activated along with republic equality https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1363656837. I started facing this issue version 1.6 onwards. On version 1.52, I had really awesome playthroughs which is why I would love to keep playing. As you can see there seems to be some problem with condition check for conversion. The "one of these must be true" does not have any sub-conditions. As for conceive a child option, I haven't seen that the entire playthrough. The character isn't pregnant and has been the head of society for 2 years. Thanks for your help.
lockeslylcrit Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, HiddenPlayer625 said: Well it's Version 1.7 Well there's the problem right there. SoS 1.7 has practical_age < 45 which is what the decision is looking for. That condition is for immortals, otherwise it defaults to age. It was commented out in Lesbocracy (both LL and Steam versions). If you want to continue playing SoS instead of upgrading to Lesbo, just add a # by that condition in the decision file.
Buzhidao Posted October 21, 2018 Author Posted October 21, 2018 7 hours ago, HiddenPlayer625 said: Well it's Version 1.7 and it is activated along with republic equality https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1363656837. I started facing this issue version 1.6 onwards. On version 1.52, I had really awesome playthroughs which is why I would love to keep playing. As you can see there seems to be some problem with condition check for conversion. The "one of these must be true" does not have any sub-conditions. As for conceive a child option, I haven't seen that the entire playthrough. The character isn't pregnant and has been the head of society for 2 years. Thanks for your help. 5 hours ago, lockeslylcrit said: Well there's the problem right there. SoS 1.7 has practical_age < 45 which is what the decision is looking for. That condition is for immortals, otherwise it defaults to age. It was commented out in Lesbocracy (both LL and Steam versions). If you want to continue playing SoS instead of upgrading to Lesbo, just add a # by that condition in the decision file. I think I understand what the problem is. It's not that practical_age was commented out in the later versions, that's not the problem - the problem is that the game does not recognize this trigger at all. It's been added in CK2 v2.8 and the root of all your problems @HiddenPlayer625 is that you are using an earlier version of CK2. You need to update your game. Deleting the condition just in one place won't work - you would have to modify all the files in the entire mod. Update CK2 and that will solve all your problems. EDIT: also, I'm sorry I did not recognize the issue sooner - somehow the SoS files on my hard drive are different from the ones I posted here, which made me think your version was outdated. I saw my mistake when I re-downloaded SoS from the website.
lockeslylcrit Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 I just assumed everyone was on the same patch. 2.8.2 (when practical_age was added) is now four months old
masteruknown Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 So I'm having a TON of trouble figuring out how to actually create the society - I've got everything that needs to be done but for some reason I just CAN'T do ithttps://gyazo.com/bd3c9e98bf0b7cd2e3242dcd8076a2af Is all I get, across multiple games with and without mods other than Lesbocracy Some help would seriously be appreciated cause I'm going mad trying to figure this out.
lockeslylcrit Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 58 minutes ago, masteruknown said: So I'm having a TON of trouble figuring out how to actually create the society - I've got everything that needs to be done but for some reason I just CAN'T do ithttps://gyazo.com/bd3c9e98bf0b7cd2e3242dcd8076a2af Is all I get, across multiple games with and without mods other than Lesbocracy Some help would seriously be appreciated cause I'm going mad trying to figure this out. Are you running CK2 2.8.1 or higher?
Jendic Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 Playing Lesbocracy on the latest CK2 patch, and I'd like to report a bug. My queen got excommunicated after refusing to divorce her wife, so naturally she set up an anti-pope to nullify the excommunication and keep it from happening again. Several years later, His Holiness in Rome excommunicated her again, forcing her to go to His Holiness in Wales to get it lifted the hard way. Secondly, there is a serious issue with staying in a committed relationship: It blocks straight marriages even before the gay marriage event fires. My queen's daughter and sole surviving child stayed faithful and true to her lover for over 20 years after coming of age, never bore any children during that time, and was almost menopausal when her mother finally died. She was neither chaste nor celibate, nor was the decision to breed with a man available. I could not marry her off during that time, nor could she wed a man after becoming queen, which I assume was due to a bug with remaining faithful and true. The lesbian marriage event fired when the daughter was in her early 50s, after I gave up and console-commanded her a daughter of her own. Thirdly, either the Spartan training event should be massively nerfed, or this mod needs an abdication button. My current queen has gotten over 5 bonus health from 3 separate rounds of training. She could easily make it into her 70s or even early 80s now. Her eldest daughter could very well be infertile by then, and her eldest won't be a spring chicken either. How the frak am I supposed to plan out a succession that far in advance?
Buzhidao Posted October 29, 2018 Author Posted October 29, 2018 10 hours ago, Jendic said: Playing Lesbocracy on the latest CK2 patch, and I'd like to report a bug. My queen got excommunicated after refusing to divorce her wife, so naturally she set up an anti-pope to nullify the excommunication and keep it from happening again. Several years later, His Holiness in Rome excommunicated her again, forcing her to go to His Holiness in Wales to get it lifted the hard way. I was playing as a Russian Orthodox Queen yesterday and had almost the same thing happen to me, except I used my patriarch to remove the excommunication. I don't know if that's really a problem, but I'll think about it. 10 hours ago, Jendic said: Secondly, there is a serious issue with staying in a committed relationship: It blocks straight marriages even before the gay marriage event fires. My queen's daughter and sole surviving child stayed faithful and true to her lover for over 20 years after coming of age, never bore any children during that time, and was almost menopausal when her mother finally died. She was neither chaste nor celibate, nor was the decision to breed with a man available. I could not marry her off during that time, nor could she wed a man after becoming queen, which I assume was due to a bug with remaining faithful and true. The lesbian marriage event fired when the daughter was in her early 50s, after I gave up and console-commanded her a daughter of her own. You should have still had the "Conceive a child" option to knock her up. Are you saying it wasn't available? It should have only been unavailable in one case - if the character has a rare "Androphobe" modifier, which prevents any conception (it can disappear after a decade or so, so it doesn't necessarily mean a game over). If you're certain you didn't have the decision, I will need to see your save to find the problem. 10 hours ago, Jendic said: Thirdly, either the Spartan training event should be massively nerfed, or this mod needs an abdication button. My current queen has gotten over 5 bonus health from 3 separate rounds of training. She could easily make it into her 70s or even early 80s now. Her eldest daughter could very well be infertile by then, and her eldest won't be a spring chicken either. How the frak am I supposed to plan out a succession that far in advance? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1531706318 Use this. Lesbocracy is meant to be used with these two decisions, but I made a separate mod in case someone already has an abdication mod installed.
Buzhidao Posted October 30, 2018 Author Posted October 30, 2018 A bit of news. I've decided to discontinue support for SoS when Holy Fury comes out. I will start creating a fully working compatibility version of Lesbocracy for CK2Plus when CK2Plus is updated. I may think about doing one for HIP if I feel masochistic enough. On 10/28/2018 at 11:21 PM, Jendic said: Secondly, there is a serious issue with staying in a committed relationship: It blocks straight marriages even before the gay marriage event fires. My queen's daughter and sole surviving child stayed faithful and true to her lover for over 20 years after coming of age, never bore any children during that time, and was almost menopausal when her mother finally died. I've taken your complaints into account, now it will be possible to marry lesbian women in a relationship off to men if the gay marriage event hasn't fired yet. You will see the changes when I release the beta version of Lesbocracy sometime after November 13. I am still waiting for your save file to see what the problem was with that "Conceive a child" decision.
lockeslylcrit Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 On 10/28/2018 at 4:21 PM, Jendic said: She was neither chaste nor celibate, nor was the decision to breed with a man available. Conceive a child has some pretty extreme requirements for the potentials. It could be anything that is blocking the decision from showing up. Sadly, since it's a potential, a simple screenshot of the decision won't help when figuring out what's wrong. Just to reiterate: You need to be an adult female. You need to be a member of a Lesbocracy society, but NOT Golden Orchid. You cant already be pregnant. You must either be unmarried or be married to a woman. You must not be a prisoner. You must not have ALL of the following: Groom an heir/son/daughter ambition. Five or more children already. One of those children is a female, of your dynasty, your primary heir, and is a child or is an adult with female children. You must either be unmarried, have an AI spouse, or be an AI with an AI spouse. (I'm guessing this can easily be merged with the above marriage requirement for less clutter) You must not have ALL of the following: Have the modifier Androphobe. Your spouse has the modifier Androphobe. Your current heir has the modifier Androphobe. You must not be inaccessable. You must have at least one of the following: Have a practical age of less than 45 and not be infertile. Be married and your spouse is female, unlanded, not pregnant, not infertile, and practical age less than 45. Your current heir is female, unlanded, at least 16, not useless, your child and dynasty, homosexual, not have a disease, is not pregnant, and either be unmarried or married to a female.
Buzhidao Posted October 30, 2018 Author Posted October 30, 2018 I think you're confusing things a bit. Let me fix that. 1 hour ago, lockeslylcrit said: You need to be an adult female. You need to be a member of a Lesbocracy SoS society [EDIT: or a ruler of a gynarchy], but NOT Golden Orchid You cant already be pregnant. You must either be unmarried or be married to a woman. You must not be a prisoner. You must either: Have fewer than 5 children Have an ambition to groom an heir/have a daughter/have a son Have 5 or more children, none of which are female NOT have a daughter of your dynasty that is your primary heir Have an adult daughter that is your primary heir, but doesn't have a daughter of her own 1 hour ago, lockeslylcrit said: You must either be unmarried, have an AI spouse, or be an AI with an AI spouse. (I'm guessing this can easily be merged with the above marriage requirement for less clutter) [EDIT: if it works, it's not broken] You must not have ALL of the following: Have the modifier Androphobe. Your spouse has the modifier Androphobe. Your current heir has the modifier Androphobe. You must not be inaccessable. You must have at least one of the following: Have a practical age of less than 45 and not be infertile (or have an illness) Be married and your spouse is female, unlanded, not pregnant, not infertile, not ill, and practical age less than 45. Your current heir is female, unlanded, at least 16, not useless, your child and dynasty, homosexual, not have a disease, is not pregnant, and either be unmarried or married to a female.
lockeslylcrit Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, Buzhidao said: You must either: Have fewer than 5 children Have an ambition to groom an heir/have a daughter/have a son Have 5 or more children, none of which are female NOT have a daughter of your dynasty that is your primary heir Have an adult daughter that is your primary heir, but doesn't have a daughter of her own Using the Steam version of the code. NAND means all conditions must be false to satisfy the NAND condition (NOT + AND). NOT by itself defaults to NOT + OR. It's what tripped me up in my House Irae mod when making an event to replace Lolth temple holders to be the proper gender/culture/trait. trigger = { is_theocracy = yes religion = lolth is_ruler = yes NAND = { is_female = yes culture = drow trait = houseirae_drow } } If even one of those NAND conditions is false, the event is triggered. If all of them are true, the event wont trigger. In your code... NAND = { NOR = { has_ambition = obj_groom_an_heir has_ambition = obj_have_a_daughter has_ambition = obj_have_a_son } num_of_children = 5 #any_child = { is_female = yes } any_child = { is_female = yes is_primary_heir = yes dynasty = ROOT OR = { NOT = { age = 16 } AND = { has_children = yes any_child = { is_female = yes } } } } } It's a very real possibility that a character could have all true at the same time. Changing the NAND to a NOR might fix things.
lockeslylcrit Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 I put the potential to always = yes, commented out the allow, and replaced the old potentials as the new allow to see what is going on, and it seems to work fine for me (a fresh character) Spoiler It could just be that the above poster had all the conditions of either the NANDs be true. Or it could be something else. I honestly don't know without seeing a save file.
Buzhidao Posted October 30, 2018 Author Posted October 30, 2018 2 hours ago, lockeslylcrit said: It's a very real possibility that a character could have all true at the same time. Changing the NAND to a NOR might fix things. That would break the purpose of the block, not fix anything.
AlexWyrmin Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 I've very recently installed the latest version of CK2Plus, the 4.07.8, and had to uninstall every sub-mod that depended on it I had in my folder to keep the new version from making the game crash on save, any kind of save, so what I'd like to know is whether the main version of Lesbocracy could be made to work with CK2Plus just by adding a "dependencies=" to the .mod file or if I should just revert to an older version of CK2Plus that didn't have that problem. Thank you in advance.
Buzhidao Posted October 30, 2018 Author Posted October 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, AlexWyrmin said: I've very recently installed the latest version of CK2Plus, the 4.07.8, and had to uninstall every sub-mod that depended on it I had in my folder to keep the new version from making the game crash on save, any kind of save, so what I'd like to know is whether the main version of Lesbocracy could be made to work with CK2Plus just by adding a "dependencies=" to the .mod file or if I should just revert to an older version of CK2Plus that didn't have that problem. Thank you in advance. If you've installed the dedicated CK2Plus version of Lesbocracy and it keeps crashing, then I'd suggest you revert to an older version of CK2Plus and wait for the post-Holy Fury update. Don't try using the non-CK2Plus version, because it is not compatible.
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