Passion [Requires patch level 1.63+]

[woyzeck]

Is there any way to turn off the notifications about who's passioning who and what not? 

[TwilightStorm]

7 hours ago, namaradus said:

I was starting to think that maybe UAC was interfering but that shouldn't affect the game folder in Documents at least I don't think it would.

It's probably a case of Murphy's Law "If anything can go wrong it will".

Can you disable EP3 Sims 3 Late Night and EP4 The Sims 3 Generations, with SimGameSelect and see if this continues? No bars will exist, so there might not be any reason for delayed loads, unless it's not the bars.

 

[TwilightStorm]

1 hour ago, woyzeck said:

Is there any way to turn off the notifications about who's passioning who and what not? 

Go to passion settings -> Label. There is a question about notifications. Click no. You won't  notify for sims that passioning but you will be notified fo errors. Error is a message and not notification.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, TwilightStorm said:

Can you disable EP3 Sims 3 Late Night and EP4 The Sims 3 Generations, with SimGameSelect and see if this continues? No bars will exist, so there might not be any reason for delayed loads, unless it's not the bars.

 

I disabled Late Night and Generations still gets stuck at 99%. Then I also disabled Island Paradise (for the Pool Bars) and ITF still got stuck at 99%.

 

Just wondering which service pool are you drawing them from the Maids or Dancers the Maids are Base Game now the Dancers are Generations.

Late Night and Island Paradise are the only 2 EP's that had bars. Pro Bars (Late night) and Pool Bars (Island Paradise EP10).

 

Did you miss flag the Pool Bars as EP4 instead of having them flagged as EP10.

 

Or maybe try removing the Pool Bar requirement as a lot of people don't use IP cause the taxi boats mess up the routing in most worlds. Or maybe have an on/off choice for them.

 

[TwilightStorm]

12 minutes ago, namaradus said:

I disabled Late Night and Generations still gets stuck at 99%. Then I also disabled Island Paradise (for the Pool Bars) and ITF still got stuck at 99%.

 

Just wondering which service pool are you drawing them from the Maids or Dancers the Maids are Base Game now the Dancers are Generations.

Late Night and Island Paradise are the only 2 EP's that had bars. Pro Bars (Late night) and Pool Bars (Island Paradise EP10).

 

Did you miss flag the Pool Bars as EP4 instead of having them flagged as EP10.

 

Or maybe try removing the Pool Bar requirement as a lot of people don't use IP cause the taxi boats mess up the routing in most worlds. Or maybe have an on/off choice for them.

 

I added flags for EP3 and EP4 installed but I forgot the EP10. That'a maybe the reason. I see it when I go back home. I'm at work now.

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, TwilightStorm said:

I added flags for EP3 and EP4 installed but I forgot the EP10. That'a maybe the reason. I see it when I go back home. I'm at work now.

What's needed from EP4 just wondering.

[TwilightStorm]

2 hours ago, namaradus said:

What's needed from EP4 just wondering.

Dance staff!

I had an error with bars that I never saw so many times now that I read the script.

Pool bars are Bar Advanced expansion and even if you have EP10 they need EP3 to appear.

So if EP3 is not installed pool bars will not work.

I saw that in EA pool bar scripts. (and that's not the error. I will tell you what it was if this one is fixed)

Look at this fix and tell me please if the issue is gone or not.

BarMaid_Service_v1.0.0.package

[Guest]

1 hour ago, TwilightStorm said:

Dance staff!

I had an error with bars that I never saw so many times now that I read the script.

Pool bars are Bar Advanced expansion and even if you have EP10 they need EP3 to appear.

So if EP3 is not installed pool bars will not work.

I saw that in EA pool bar scripts. (and that's not the error. I will tell you what it was if this one is fixed)

Look at this fix and tell me please if the issue is gone or not.

BarMaid_Service_v1.0.0.package 221.33 kB · 2 downloads

No that didn't work either still gets stuck at 99%.

 

No the Pool Bars will still show up and work without EP3 they just won't have the advanced animations and sound effects. Like with the Scooter A Glow Glow from the Transport to the Future Store Set it'll work just without the sound effects if World Adventures is not installed.

[TwilightStorm]

28 minutes ago, namaradus said:

No that didn't work either still gets stuck at 99%.

 

No the Pool Bars will still show up and work without EP3 they just won't have the advanced animations and sound effects. Like with the Scooter A Glow Glow from the Transport to the Future Store Set it'll work just without the sound effects if World Adventures is not installed.

OK. now I have removed any bar interactions. I want to see if it's stopped or not now.

If it still stacks, disable ep3 and ep4. If it still stacks it's not bars and bartenders but something else

BarMaid_Service_v1.0.0.package

[Guest]

56 minutes ago, TwilightStorm said:

OK. now I have removed any bar interactions. I want to see if it's stopped or not now.

BarMaid_Service_v1.0.0.package 221.32 kB · 0 downloads

No didn't work either still stuck at 99%.

I did try disabling EP3 and EP4 same result.

 

The thing is with all the ones I've tried one thing is certain that as long as I have placed a new Pro Bar on community lot somewhere in town it will load up from a Save Game just not from a New Game or a Save Game that doesn't have a new Pro Bar placed before installing Bar Maids.

I would just tell people to make sure to have new Pro Bar placed on a community lot do a Save As before installing Bar Maids.

 

It could just be how the North/South American version of the game is. I know the European Version is slightly different from the North/South American Version.

[Guest]

53 minutes ago, namaradus said:

Pool bars are Bar Advanced expansion and even if you have EP10 they need EP3 to appear.

So if EP3 is not installed pool bars will not work.

Double checked and the Pool Bar will work but like a regular juice bar and the Mixologist that gets assigned if one is one a community lot will be useless cause they won't have the Mixology skill and will never tend the bar if Late Night isn't installed. 

[TwilightStorm]

2 hours ago, namaradus said:

Double checked and the Pool Bar will work but like a regular juice bar and the Mixologist that gets assigned if one is one a community lot will be useless cause they won't have the Mixology skill and will never tend the bar if Late Night isn't installed. 

As far what I did was to make 2 Bar Advanced interactions outside of Sims3.Gameplay.Objects.Counters, that this object belongs and add them inside the service.

In this one, I made an expantion of Sims3.Gameplay.Objects.Counters and add them there and the service calls them as a game references.

Maybe this is the answer but since both worked for me, only your computer can tell if the issue is gone or not.

Sorry for this bro but I have no other option.

BarMaid_Service_v1.0.0.package 

[Guest]

11 hours ago, TwilightStorm said:

As far what I did was to make 2 Bar Advanced interactions outside of Sims3.Gameplay.Objects.Counters, that this object belongs and add them inside the service.

In this one, I made an expantion of Sims3.Gameplay.Objects.Counters and add them there and the service calls them as a game references.

Maybe this is the answer but since both worked for me, only your computer can tell if the issue is gone or not.

Sorry for this bro but I have no other option.

BarMaid_Service_v1.0.0.package 221.26 kB · 3 downloads  

No that didn't work either. 

[TwilightStorm]

1 hour ago, namaradus said:

No that didn't work either. 

So there is no other explanation than it is conflict with something. I don't have NR story progression. Can you repeat it without NR mods?

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, TwilightStorm said:

So there is no other explanation than it is conflict with something. I don't have NR story progression. Can you repeat it without NR mods?

I haven't used Nraas SP in a couple of yrs lol. But yeah even with just Bar Maids installed it still gets stuck at 99%.

 

It would have to be something on my computer then what that would be I have no clue.

[TwilightStorm]

11 minutes ago, namaradus said:

I haven't used Nraas SP in a couple of yrs lol. But yeah even with just Bar Maids installed it still gets stuck at 99%.

 

It would have to be something on my computer then what that would be I have no clue.

I just test it with all NR story progression mods and it gets crash all the time!

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, TwilightStorm said:

I just test it with all NR story progression mods and it gets crash all the time!

That's strange wonder way that happens.

Glad I don't use Nraas SP anymore I just use EA's SP easier for me to control what happens in my towns.

[TwilightStorm]

50 minutes ago, namaradus said:

That's strange wonder way that happens.

Glad I don't use Nraas SP anymore I just use EA's SP easier for me to control what happens in my towns.

NRaas_StoryProgressionMoney.package That the one yet that crashes the game. I'll look for more.

Is it possible to show me a list of NR mods you use? I want to compare it with mine. Maybe I'll replicate the issue.

As far with these below and the BarMaids, I have no issues.

 

 

12/04/2013  05:24 §£           190.552 NinjaCareer.package
19/10/2013  07:19 ££            93.357 NRaas_Animator.package
27/10/2013  09:35 ££            56.938 NRaas_AntiMagicScroll.package
21/05/2014  07:57 §£           553.924 NRaas_Career.package
02/06/2014  04:08 §£            29.845 NRaas_CareerDataAcademics.package
20/02/2013  05:37 ££           361.522 NRaas_CareerDataAssassination.package
09/01/2014  10:08 ££           102.306 NRaas_CareerDataHomemaker.package
08/01/2014  01:00 §£           759.694 NRaas_CareerDataMobster.package
09/01/2014  10:06 ££           300.413 NRaas_CareerDataPartTime.package
11/01/2014  01:10 ££           377.331 NRaas_CareerDataSchool.package
08/01/2014  12:23 §£           508.967 NRaas_CareerDataSelfEmployed.package
08/01/2014  12:11 §£            58.346 NRaas_CareerDataTones.package
08/01/2014  12:15 §£            87.523 NRaas_CareerDataUnemployed.package
22/01/2014  12:16 §£           204.158 NRaas_Consigner.package
06/05/2014  05:40 §£           267.015 NRaas_DebugEnabler.package
24/11/2013  09:32 ££            93.209 NRaas_Decensor.package
05/11/2014  04:47 §£           286.890 NRaas_Dresser.package
14/03/2015  06:20 §£           533.354 NRaas_ErrorTrap.package
19/02/2011  06:04 ££               448 NRaas_ErrorTrap_Tuning_DisableDereferencing.package
05/11/2014  04:44 §£           211.793 NRaas_GoHere.package
31/10/2012  04:58 ££            52.766 NRaas_HomeOpener.package
24/10/2013  08:27 ££           149.953 NRaas_Hybrid.package
26/01/2016  06:54 §£         1.088.069 NRaas_MasterController.package
26/01/2016  06:56 §£           308.027 NRaas_MasterControllerCheats.package
25/10/2015  04:23 §£           113.218 NRaas_MasterControllerExpandedTattoo.package
13/07/2014  05:49 §£            55.031 NRaas_MasterControllerIntegration.package
14/09/2009  11:34 ££             5.808 NRaas_NoCD.package
26/01/2014  12:10 §£            64.899 NRaas_OnceRead.package
26/01/2014  12:11 §£             8.997 NRaas_OnceReadTablet.package
25/10/2015  03:55 §£           344.358 NRaas_Overwatch.package
03/09/2012  05:04 ££            45.244 NRaas_PocketProtectorTablet.package
08/01/2014  12:29 §£           196.490 NRaas_Porter.package
21/12/2014  09:47 §£           297.200 NRaas_Register.package
27/01/2014  11:08 ££           159.115 NRaas_RelationshipPanel.package
05/11/2014  04:22 §£           211.890 NRaas_Relativity.package
06/05/2014  05:16 §£           178.332 NRaas_Retuner.package
29/11/2013  08:08 ££           109.100 NRaas_Saver.package
03/03/2013  09:19 ££            57.015 NRaas_SecondImage.package
19/10/2013  07:20 ££           141.945 NRaas_Selector.package
29/01/2014  12:21 §£            78.263 NRaas_Shooless.package
19/10/2013  01:53 ££            15.991 NRaas_ShoolessRoutineMachine.package
19/10/2013  01:53 ££            13.306 NRaas_ShoolessUberToilet.package
23/10/2013  10:58 ££            63.256 NRaas_SleepFreedom.package
05/11/2014  04:38 §£           210.408 NRaas_Tagger.package
21/12/2014  09:20 §£           208.527 NRaas_Tempest.package
19/10/2013  01:54 ££           105.077 NRaas_Traffic.package
05/11/2014  04:55 §£           372.441 NRaas_Traveler.package
09/01/2016  06:25 §£         1.126.928 NRaas_Woohooer.package
20/06/2015  06:30 ££            13.544 NRaas_WoohooerEiffelTower.package
01/11/2013  11:11 ££            21.621 NRaas_WoohooerHotAirBalloon.package
09/01/2016  06:26 §£           631.073 NRaas_WoohooerKamaSimtra.package
01/11/2013  11:11 ££            14.313 NRaas_WoohooerMassageTable.package
08/01/2014  06:26 §£            26.918 NRaas_WoohooerSauna.package
01/11/2013  11:12 ££            11.556 NRaas_WoohooerShowerOutdoor.package
15/10/2014  04:28 §£            12.824 NRaas_WoohooerToiletStall.package
02/11/2013  01:10 §£             9.720 NRaas_Woohooer_Scoring.package
27/06/2013  09:19 ££            56.995 NRaas_WrittenWord.package
 

 

I used the CMD command,  dir *.package > list.txt  on the folder that contains them.

NRaas_ErrorTrap_Tuning_DisableDereferencing.package  is disabled in my mods.

 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, TwilightStorm said:

Is it possible to show me a list of NR mods you use? I want to compare it with mine.

As you can see I don't use too many

 

Consigner

DebugEnabler

Master Controller

Master Controller Cheats

Master Controller Integration

PocketProtectorPotionCase

PocketProtectorTablet (sometimes but not using it at the moment)

ErrorTrap

Mover

NoCD

OverWatch

Register

Tagger

Traffic

Traveler (sometimes but not at the moment)

Woohooer

WooHooer KamaSimtra

[TwilightStorm]

10 minutes ago, namaradus said:

Register

I had this disabled in my playing long time game and when I enabled it again the game stacks (frezees) when I click MC reset lot.

I have BarMaids on lot and Register use them as maid services.

I'm getting in to issues, at last!?

So, I'll be back with more!

This is the only mod that affects services.

Maybe I'm wrong but I have something to start, at last!

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, TwilightStorm said:

I had this disabled in my playing long time game and when I enabled it again the game stacks (frezees) when I click MC reset lot.

I have BarMaids on lot and Register use them as maid services.

I'm getting in to issues, at last!?

So, I'll be back with more!

This is the only mod that affects services.

Maybe I'm wrong but I have something to start, at last!

All the ones I use are the Newest Versions a few of yours looked like they might not have been updated in awhile

Woohooer is the only Testing Version I have version 130a for both Woohooer and KS

Don't know if you know about the New Site they have as Wikispaces shut down https://www.nraas.net/community/

The new site does have some issues that they are working on fixing.

[TwilightStorm]

51 minutes ago, namaradus said:

All the ones I use are the Newest Versions a few of yours looked like they might not have been updated in awhile

Woohooer is the only Testing Version I have version 130a for both Woohooer and KS

Don't know if you know about the New Site they have as Wikispaces shut down https://www.nraas.net/community/

The new site does have some issues that they are working on fixing.

This is not new, I mean about Register.

This mod works only with vanilla services and makes problems to custom and new services.

I saw that many times with Douglas Veiga custom gardener and other services of this kind.

I succeed to reset the active lot but the reset was crawling!

I never saw it so slow before.

After that, when I clicked on lot's walls Nraas -> Register -> Service, the barmaids where almost on every service, even if they were already in lot.

They were burglars, bartenders, dancers, maids and some more that I don't remember but the strange thing it that all of them, were in the lot as services, at that time.

Max service pool for Register is 4 and that's the dancers, 2 for bartenders, 2 for maids, 2 for butlers etc and each and any of them has only one role.

BarMaids pool is 10 max!, with 3 roles! (Maid, Bartender and dancer)

 

One thing I can say for sure now, is that DON'T USE REGISTER WITH CUSTOM SERVICES!   

Both Custom Services and Register are referenced to Sims 3 service manager from Sims3GameplaySystems Core and both, together existence, makes the service manager bouncing!

[Guest]

22 hours ago, TwilightStorm said:

This is not new, I mean about Register.

This mod works only with vanilla services and makes problems to custom and new services.

I saw that many times with Douglas Veiga custom gardener and other services of this kind.

I succeed to reset the active lot but the reset was crawling!

I never saw it so slow before.

After that, when I clicked on lot's walls Nraas -> Register -> Service, the barmaids where almost on every service, even if they were already in lot.

They were burglars, bartenders, dancers, maids and some more that I don't remember but the strange thing it that all of them, were in the lot as services, at that time.

Max service pool for Register is 4 and that's the dancers, 2 for bartenders, 2 for maids, 2 for butlers etc and each and any of them has only one role.

BarMaids pool is 10 max!, with 3 roles! (Maid, Bartender and dancer)

 

One thing I can say for sure now, is that DON'T USE REGISTER WITH CUSTOM SERVICES!   

Both Custom Services and Register are referenced to Sims 3 service manager from Sims3GameplaySystems Core and both, together existence, makes the service manager bouncing!

Yes but that doesn't explain why it won't load for me unless it's from a Save Game without a pre-existing Pro Bar on a community lot when it's the only mod installed.

But humor me which version of Visual Studio are you running I think I know what maybe causing it.

[TwilightStorm]

1 hour ago, namaradus said:

Yes but that doesn't explain why it won't load for me unless it's from a Save Game without a pre-existing Pro Bar on a community lot when it's the only mod installed.

But humor me which version of Visual Studio are you running I think I know what maybe causing it.

The VS that I run is 2015 pro but still the game is on .Netframework 2. VS 2015 is on .NetFrameWork 4.5.

As about (Yes but that doesn't explain why it won't load for me unless it's from a Save Game without a pre-existing Pro Bar on a community lot when it's the only mod installed.)

I run the service on base game with nothing from Pro Bars and worked, Then I installed EP3 and EP4 and in worked.

I first played it with all EP/XP installed and it worked.

I run it from a CMD that always deletes any game cache file before the TS3W starts.

The common thing was that NR Register was not installed.

When I installed it on a saved game that the service was pre-installed I got issues!

 

I don't know what more issues might have if I choose to save it in a game but I went the opposite of what you say.

I had no issues with BarMaids with or with not Pro Bars, until I installed Register.

 

I don't know if you start the game with not BarMaid service and Register installed,

Reset the Town,

save it to a new name and

start the new name game with BarMaid service installed.

Would it stop???

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, TwilightStorm said:

The VS that I run is 2015 pro but still the game is on .Netframework 2. VS 2015 is on .NetFrameWork 4.5.

As about (Yes but that doesn't explain why it won't load for me unless it's from a Save Game without a pre-existing Pro Bar on a community lot when it's the only mod installed.)

I run the service on base game with nothing from Pro Bars and worked, Then I installed EP3 and EP4 and in worked.

I first played it with all EP/XP installed and it worked.

I run it from a CMD that always deletes any game cache file before the TS3W starts.

The common thing was that NR Register was not installed.

When I installed it on a saved game that the service was pre-installed I got issues!

 

I don't know what more issues might have if I choose to save it in a game but I went the opposite of what you say.

I had no issues with BarMaids with or with not Pro Bars, until I installed Register.

 

I don't know if you start the game with not BarMaid service and Register installed,

Reset the Town,

save it to a new name and

start the new name game with BarMaid service installed.

Would it stop???

With that last version I tested I was able to load the game from a Save without any Pro Bars placed but not from a New Game but I also changed the game to run in Windowed mode so I could watch Task Manager the OS is literally taking away the CPU power the game needs when trying from a New Game.

It has to be the OS turning on some background process killing the CPU power to the game. But strangely the OS doesn't do that when loading up a Save.

 

If people have problems from getting the game to load they should just have new Pro Bar placed on a community lot (probably not needed but wouldn't hurt) do a Save As before installing Bar Maids.