quest Thief

[kakaer]

October.

[nackstar]

Love the mod so far, now I'm stuck at Solitude dungeon. Game freezes when I tried to put my stuff in the chest after the guard told me to do it, can someone help?

[Highborn]

31 minutes ago, nackstar said:

Love the mod so far, now I'm stuck at Solitude dungeon. Game freezes when I tried to put my stuff in the chest after the guard told me to do it, can someone help?

do you have any mod that edits Castle Dour Dungeon cell? Or any prison overhaul?

[evilryusam]

ok so i've gotten to the coin part of solitude, and now that I'm going for all of the scene's, I can't seem to progress with the cheesemonger after asking him for assistance with varg.

 

Edit: Nevermind, i found a post stating it's 9.2. I'm not sure why thats part of the walkthrough listed for 9.1...

[nackstar]

14 hours ago, Highborn said:

do you have any mod that edits Castle Dour Dungeon cell? Or any prison overhaul?

I uninstalled prison overhaul a while ago.

[brewmasterhal]

1 hour ago, evilryusam said:

Edit: Nevermind, i found a post stating it's 9.2. I'm not sure why thats part of the walkthrough listed for 9.1...

 

You make an excellent point.  The walkthrough has been updated to make it clear that Viggi's section is currently exclusive.

[evilryusam]

13 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

 

You make an excellent point.  The walkthrough has been updated to make it clear that Viggi's section is currently exclusive.

Glad i could be of some help to anyone that might've been confused by that lol.

[user9120975435]

This is without a doubt the best quest mod I've ever played, adult or not.

 

The complexity, fun factor, length, minigames, surprising outcomes, etc. have no equal even in Sexlab community. Thank you!

 

I'm only at the Kust part for now, and I've got only a few gripes:

- the minigames are WAAAAAAAY too easy, I actually have to work hard to LOSE them to see the "bad" end - which is honestly more entertaining than the good end - I usually play a rebel that then has to pay heavily - honestly I think minigames should be made harder

- too bad that losing to Kust never ends like it does with the voyeur at the springs where he eventually tires and gives you info, you are forced to win against Kust or you're stuck in never-ending loop of losing

- according to pop-ups, if PC orgasms then it's harder to get Kust to orgasm, which isn't true, usually he was just behind her and never had a problem  - it was actually harder to get my PC to orgasm rather than Kust which is the opposite of what he boasted and some ways RL (nature usually doesn't care if the female orgasms, but the male MUST and they usually have very little time otherwise one of them or both gets eaten)

- PC's arousal goes down too fast when she stops riding Kust - it's at 0 in a matter of seconds, while Kust's takes much too long to go down as it will not go down even by half before the time is up - makes it harder to get more than 1 orgasm from PC before Kust either cums or before the time is up

- oh yeah, too bad that those two farmers in Kust quest or any other NPCs never join in

 

The biggest gripe that I have with Skyrim game itself is that a player's actions, especially immoral ones, simply don't have an impact on gameplay or how NPCs interact with you and this mod is the perfect showcase how Skyrim falls short. In a perfect game PC humiliating herself by selling her body like this would have effect on our gameplay from that point onward, our PC would be shunned as a slut and it would be impossible to interact with some NPCs or even enter towns, she would be run out of some towns or target of further public humiliation like pillory IRL. After all she's done in Falkreath she would probably not want to show her face there for a few weeks or months. Sadly Bethesda wasn't interested in making this game more in-depth.

 

There is a mod Relationship Dialog Overhaul and I've asked author of Sexlab Sexual Fame several times to connect his/her mod with it so that sexual fame would be detected by RDO, but sadly no response. If we had gotten that then events in Thief would actually be damn awesome for gameplay.

 

Lastly I've got two questions:

- what does "elf excitation" mean? PC's excitement in minigames? I set it to 5x and it didn't help my girl get to orgasm any quicker with Kust

- is there any consequence for skipping out on that old man in Bannered Mare? He was threatening with horrible fallout if I didn't show up later that evening and it would've been cool if my girl actually had to pay somehow for running after that thief instead of keeping her word

 

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Also a heads up for players using "The People of Skyrim" mod - it conflicts with Thief heavily: the space near between labourer's house on hill and witch's house in Falkreath causes crash even with Crash Fixes. The only way to get there is to either "coc bd_FWC" or looking at the ground until you get to the witch's house.

 

Can't wait to see what the next update brings.

[Highborn]

42 minutes ago, user9120975435 said:

I'm only at the Kust part for now, and I've got only a few gripes:

- the minigames are WAAAAAAAY too easy, I actually have to work hard to LOSE them to see the "bad" end - which is honestly more entertaining than the good end - I usually play a rebel that then has to pay heavily - honestly I think minigames should be made harder

There is an option at the MCM Menu to change the difficulty of the minigames. However, there seems to be quiet a difference how these games play for each user. We had many reports of players saying the minigames were too hard or even impossible to win. Somehow I believe the different load order and configs each one of us have installed may interfere with the minigames. I experienced opposite difficulties in different gameplays for some reason.

42 minutes ago, user9120975435 said:

- too bad that losing to Kust never ends like it does with the voyeur at the springs where he eventually tires and gives you info, you are forced to win against Kust or you're stuck in never-ending loop of losing

Actually, you can keep losing for an in-game week, until he spend all his money. You're not forced to win to advance. But of course, it will take a lot of time and it's not recommended. You can also steal his purse by using some distraction or drug him with poison. 

42 minutes ago, user9120975435 said:

- according to pop-ups, if PC orgasms then it's harder to get Kust to orgasm, which isn't true, usually he was just behind her and never had a problem  - it was actually harder to get my PC to orgasm rather than Kust which is the opposite of what he boasted and some ways RL (nature usually doesn't care if the female orgasms, but the male MUST and they usually have very little time otherwise one of them or both gets eaten)

Like I said above, people have experienced different outcomes regarding minigames. For me, it always plays like it is supposed to. The PC is always easier to get an orgasm, in fact, she always orgasms before Kust, so his comments make sense.

42 minutes ago, user9120975435 said:

- PC's arousal goes down too fast when she stops riding Kust - it's at 0 in a matter of seconds, while Kust's takes much too long to go down as it will not go down even by half before the time is up - makes it harder to get more than 1 orgasm from PC before Kust either cums or before the time is up

Yeah, something is going weird on your end. PC's arousal isn't supposed to go down that fast, like it never reaches 0 to me, but like 30% and it stops going down.

42 minutes ago, user9120975435 said:

- oh yeah, too bad that those two farmers in Kust quest or any other NPCs never join in

Oh, but they do. You can check a FAQ and walktrough on page 76 for hidden content, but you might get spoiled. To get the farmers scene, you need to have given the beggar some money for helping with the corpse, encounter Kust in the way to the burial (he will be at the front of Arkay's house), give his purse back and agree to meet him at the inn at night. You'll have to steal his shovel that is at the sonewall in front of Akay's house before he starts working. Then, he will skip work and go to the tavern. Then, you need to give the beggar a Black Briar Reserve bottle (or sell one to Valga) before talking with Kust. When you start sex with Kust again, the two farmers should appear again.

 

42 minutes ago, user9120975435 said:

Lastly I've got two questions:

- what does "elf excitation" mean? PC's excitement in minigames? I set it to 5x and it didn't help my girl get to orgasm any quicker with Kust

- is there any consequence for skipping out on that old man in Bannered Mare? He was threatening with horrible fallout if I didn't show up later that evening and it would've been cool if my girl actually had to pay somehow for running after that thief instead of keeping her word

 

 

The elf excitation means Liorel's fatigue for his sex encounters in Windhelm. If you agreed to let him practice oral sex with you in order to let you enter the New Gnisis, you'll eventually unlock the option to become his sex teacher. Depending on that value he can endure more sex before tiring out.

 

At the moment, there is no consequence for skipping out the old man late encounter, but if you decide to show up, it will increase your karma value. And as you might know already, the bigger the karma, more options you'll unlock.

[user9120975435]

1 hour ago, Highborn said:

There is an option at the MCM Menu to change the difficulty of the minigames. However, there seems to be quiet a difference how these games play for each user. We had many reports of players saying the minigames were too hard or even impossible to win. Somehow I believe the different load order and configs each one of us have installed may interfere with the minigames. I experienced opposite difficulties in different gameplays for some reason.

 

Strange, hm.

 

Well, in MCM I have two options: normal and easy. It's incredibly easy for me to win, even the rock-paper thing with peeping Tom that I've never in my life played I got right on first try.

 

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 You can also steal his purse by using some distraction or drug him with poison. 

 

But that's not so much fun. ? My girl is kinda ryona as I always try to make her life as hard as possible lol to make her come out on top but battered. Too bad there is no real mindbreak mod in Sexlab, like NPCs demanding sex from PC and her having only option to give in (there is something like that in Fallout 4 AAF). There is Dragonborn in distress and that is excellent, but I think it could go even further.

 

I'm now 60 hours into this installation gameplay and with different mods my girl is still level 1 with only 30 magicka, 20 stamina and about 50 health and the first two are pretty much empty most of the time due to all the debuff spells that are affecting her. so, she's basically useless in a fight and depends heavily on her follower. It's definitely a more interesting gameplay than the ones I played when the game came out: get the PC's stats buffed as much as possible and then just nuke any enemy that you come across - which is booooooooooring.

 

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Yeah, something is going weird on your end. PC's arousal isn't supposed to go down that fast, like it never reaches 0 to me, but like 30% and it stops going down.

 

I have no idea what it could be, MCM doesn't have many options. Yes, PC's goes down quickly if I stop pressing left mouse button and it goes to 0 after orgasm, after which it's almost impossible to get her to orgasm again.

 

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Oh, but they do. You can check a FAQ and walktrough on page 76 for hidden content, but you might get spoiled. To get the farmers scene, you need to have given the beggar some money for helping with the corpse, encounter Kust in the way to the burial (he will be at the front of Arkay's house), give his purse back and agree to meet him at the inn at night. You'll have to steal his shovel that is at the sonewall in front of Akay's house before he starts working. Then, he will skip work and go to the tavern. Then, you need to give the beggar a Black Briar Reserve bottle (or sell one to Valga) before talking with Kust. When you start sex with Kust again, the two farmers should appear again.

 

Thanks!

Okay, so the thing is I can initiate the stealing option with beggar, but then the only option is I don't have a job for him. I do give him food (or rather alcohol) and that's it.

 

Oh wait, you mean I can only talk to him after the sex with Kust scene?

 

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At the moment, there is no consequence for skipping out the old man late encounter, but if you decide to show up, it will increase your karma value. And as you might know already, the bigger the karma, more options you'll unlock.

 

Does that mean he will still be there even if I show up after days of game time? Excellent!

 

Thanks for your help!

 

EDIT: is there a console command to show how much Karma I have and maybe raise it? Looking at page 76 I see I missed over half of the stuff in Riften. :(

[Highborn]

1 hour ago, user9120975435 said:

 

Thanks!

Okay, so the thing is I can initiate the stealing option with beggar, but then the only option is I don't have a job for him. I do give him food (or rather alcohol) and that's it.

 

Oh wait, you mean I can only talk to him after the sex with Kust scene?

 

You're welcome! The option to give him a job (help bury the witch's corpse) only appears after the Kust scene. Then you should pay him after he carries it.

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Does that mean he will still be there even if I show up after days of game time? Excellent!

 

Thanks for your help!

 

EDIT: is there a console command to show how much Karma I have and maybe raise it? Looking at page 76 I see I missed over half of the stuff in Riften.

Yes, the elf should be always available. When you discover the torn pages, you can practice the positions with him.

 

You can check your karma with console by typing "sqv bd_mq" and then scrolling up with page page up until you get the Lust_var value. You can artificially alter the value by typing on console "setpqv bd_mq lust_var xxx" xxx for the value you want.

[user9120975435]

1 hour ago, Highborn said:

You're welcome! The option to give him a job (help bury the witch's corpse) only appears after the Kust scene. Then you should pay him after he carries it.

Yes, the elf should be always available. When you discover the torn pages, you can practice the positions with him.

 

You can check your karma with console by typing "sqv bd_mq" and then scrolling up with page page up until you get the Lust_var value. You can artificially alter the value by typing on console "setpqv bd_mq lust_var xxx" xxx for the value you want.

 

Major thanks! :D

 

Btw., how do I get Lod to sleep at his house? He always replies with that just because we fucked once doesn't mean he'll let me sleep over.

[Highborn]

8 minutes ago, user9120975435 said:

 

Major thanks!

 

Btw., how do I get Lod to sleep at his house? He always replies with that just because we fucked once doesn't mean he'll let me sleep over.

When you have sex with him, you need to select the option "tell me everything first", then he will say that you're just gonna walk away, then you have to select "you'll have to trust me". After he tells the story and demands for you to continue, you have to select "I'll keep my word." Then after the scene he will reward you with a weapon and says that he can trust you. When you look for a place to sleep, he will agree to let you in.

 

Not sure if the lines are exactly like that, but you should be able to figure it out.

 

 

[user9120975435]

1 hour ago, Highborn said:

When you have sex with him, you need to select the option "tell me everything first", then he will say that you're just gonna walk away, then you have to select "you'll have to trust me". After he tells the story and demands for you to continue, you have to select "I'll keep my word." Then after the scene he will reward you with a weapon and says that he can trust you. When you look for a place to sleep, he will agree to let you in.

 

Not sure if the lines are exactly like that, but you should be able to figure it out.

 

 

 

Thanks for reply! Sadly that means I won't sleep at his place since I chose differently. :(

 

I notified Zoe that the body is ready for burial and she tells me to find somewhere to spend the night. Was Lod the only option? I looked at page 76 walkthrough and can't see anything else.

[brewmasterhal]

7 hours ago, user9120975435 said:

the minigames are WAAAAAAAY too easy, I actually have to work hard to LOSE them to see the "bad" end - which is honestly more entertaining than the good end - I usually play a rebel that then has to pay heavily - honestly I think minigames should be made harder

6 hours ago, Highborn said:

There is an option at the MCM Menu to change the difficulty of the minigames. However, there seems to be quiet a difference how these games play for each user. We had many reports of players saying the minigames were too hard or even impossible to win. Somehow I believe the different load order and configs each one of us have installed may interfere with the minigames. I experienced opposite difficulties in different gameplays for some reason.

As some others have pointed out - and I have now tested thoroughly - the normal/easy toggle is actually reversed and "normal" difficulty is the one that implements Dogma's easy-mode settings.  As @Highborn mentions, minigame difficulty is also related to your frame rate.  Since the scripts use real time for the minigame timers but the games update on every frame, getting more frames per second will make the skill-based tasks more difficult due to them being literally faster, but will make everything else easier because there are more game updates within the time allotted.

 

 

6 hours ago, Highborn said:

The elf excitation means Liorel's fatigue for his sex encounters in Windhelm. If you agreed to let him practice oral sex with you in order to let you enter the New Gnisis, you'll eventually unlock the option to become his sex teacher. Depending on that value he can endure more sex before tiring out.

I'm pretty sure it's actually the rate at which Liorel's orgasm bar fills when "training" with him, so if you set it to 0.5 the training scene lasts twice as long.

 

5 hours ago, user9120975435 said:

is there a console command to show how much Karma I have and maybe raise it? Looking at page 76 I see I missed over half of the stuff in Riften.

The sqv bd_mq command can be used to see your current Karma value, but in practice the quest has so many references and vars that the console can't actually display them all and the Karma value gets pushed off the screen.  In a recent update Dogma implemented a simple icon that will tell you at least what range your Karma is currently in.  The table looks like this:

 

Below 25:   Hands behind back

25-49:        Hand on hip

50-99:        Whistling

100-149:    Heart

150-200:    Thinking about sex

 

The setpqv bd_mq lust_var command does work though.

[Highborn]

31 minutes ago, brewmasterhal said:

I'm pretty sure it's actually the rate at which Liorel's orgasm bar fills when "training" with him, so if you set it to 0.5 the training scene lasts twice as long.

 

Ah, okay. I never tried it. But I remember some people had problems in previous versions with the elf being constantly tired and not allowing training, so I thought this came out as some sort of solution.

[user9120975435]

Thanks, guys! :)

[sophiextime]

Ok i am getting REALLY REALLY frustrated with the mission where i have to use the slow time scroll to catch the assassin . The damn scroll lasts a mere 10 seconds and no matter where i look in that time i dont find her. Yet the very second it expires she instantly darts me with that annoying giggle and then i black screen infinitely until i reboot skyrim. Someone please help?!

[Highborn]

1 hour ago, sophiextime said:

Ok i am getting REALLY REALLY frustrated with the mission where i have to use the slow time scroll to catch the assassin . The damn scroll lasts a mere 10 seconds and no matter where i look in that time i dont find her. Yet the very second it expires she instantly darts me with that annoying giggle and then i black screen infinitely until i reboot skyrim. Someone please help?!

The easiest way is to exploit an incompatibility with interesting NPCs, where that mod will add an NPC to that tower that will make the phantom assassin immediately hostile to them, that she will ignore you and shoot arrows at the (essential) NPC. Since the NPC is essential, she will keep shooting arrows forever, while you can just move at her and knock her down while she is distracted.

 

Without interesting NPCS, that scene is one of the hardest of this mod. Some people who managed to do it gave this advice:

 

"I find this one doable but tight without any console commands. (I suppose some mods might affect this, though.) But it should be possible to do something like go up to the tower, stand just outside of her instant kill range, cast the slow time scroll while sprinting around the right side of the tower towards the phantom, and hit her once you get to her. If you get to her before the spell ends she shouldn't shoot you. This method works for me every time once I learned how to do it. That section is pretty frustrating, though. Can't see there being very high odds of doing it right the first time with no prior knowledge of what happens, though... pretty much the only way I could have done it is plan it out extensively, scout out where the phantom stays, does she move, time how long the slow time spell lasts, measure how far PC can run in that time, cast the spell from that distance etc... 

 

You can also cheat by giving you more scrolls with console or pausing the scene with console each second you move, look at the environment to localize the arrow if she already shot, if it's the case, you can select the arrow and disable it with console.

[brewmasterhal]

4 minutes ago, Highborn said:

The easiest way is to exploit an incompatibility with interesting NPCs, where that mod will add an NPC to that tower that will make the phantom assassin immediately hostile to them, that she will ignore you and shoot arrows at the (essential) NPC. Since the NPC is essential, she will keep shooting arrows forever, while you can just move at her and knock her down while she is distracted.

 

Without interesting NPCS, that scene is one of the hardest of this mod. Some people who managed to do it gave this advice:

 

"I find this one doable but tight without any console commands. (I suppose some mods might affect this, though.) But it should be possible to do something like go up to the tower, stand just outside of her instant kill range, cast the slow time scroll while sprinting around the right side of the tower towards the phantom, and hit her once you get to her. If you get to her before the spell ends she shouldn't shoot you. This method works for me every time once I learned how to do it. That section is pretty frustrating, though. Can't see there being very high odds of doing it right the first time with no prior knowledge of what happens, though... pretty much the only way I could have done it is plan it out extensively, scout out where the phantom stays, does she move, time how long the slow time spell lasts, measure how far PC can run in that time, cast the spell from that distance etc... 

 

You can also cheat by giving you more scrolls with console or pausing the scene with console each second you move, look at the environment to localize the arrow if she already shot, if it's the case, you can select the arrow and disable it with console.

 

If you're going to use the console, you can also just pull out your weapons, issue the command XX06f2e6.moveto player, then stab her until she dies - you don't even need to be outside to do it.  Or you can turn off all ai using the tai command...

[fan8512]

How to  complete "Brawl" achievement?I always die.

[poblivion]

What is now the latest version available on Patreon? There is a lot of new things, or not much different from the version here.

[Highborn]

4 hours ago, fan8512 said:

How to  complete "Brawl" achievement?I always die.

The brawl with the two rapists should stop after a few punches and never kill you. Not sure if the brawl fix mod that many people have can interfere with that.

20 minutes ago, poblivion said:

What is now the latest version available on Patreon? There is a lot of new things, or not much different from the version here.

9.2.2. 

 

There are 5 to 6 new sex scenes (including secret ones and scenes that happen immediately one after the other, depending on your choice), with two to three NPCs (some of the scenes are pretty long, other are short - one scene is a minigame with several new sex original animations). At the end, you can unlock a repeatable encounter, like Lod or Kust.

 

The scenes happen all at the same place, btw.

 

 

[poblivion]

50 minutes ago, Highborn said:

The brawl with the two rapists should stop after a few punches and never kill you. Not sure if the brawl fix mod that many people have can interfere with that.

9.2.2. 

 

There are 5 to 6 new sex scenes (including secret ones and scenes that happen immediately one after the other, depending on your choice), with two to three NPCs (some of the scenes are pretty long, other are short - one scene is a minigame with several new sex original animations). At the end, you can unlock a repeatable encounter, like Lod or Kust.

 

The scenes happen all at the same place, btw.

 

 

Thanks for the information.

How much extra time does the game story have here?  ( in last version )

 

 

[Highborn]

35 minutes ago, poblivion said:

Thanks for the information.

How much extra time does the game story have here?  ( in last version )

 

 

If you play it normally, without rushing it, I think it could be something between 1h and 1h 30. But you'd have to reload saves to see all the branches. It's a really worthy addition. But it should be added in the next release for everyone, so it won't be exclusive anymore. But, of course, there will be a new additional scene for the top patreons in this next release as well.