slso SexLab Separate Orgasm LE

[Monoman1]

On 2/23/2022 at 2:33 PM, DayTri said:

1: I think by default orgasm only reduces 20 exposure

Arousal doesn't seem to decrease at all hardly. 

Actually it seems PC v NPC scenes are the same. Belethor went from 100 arousal to 99 after sex. 

 

Edit: Hmm, ok. After cranking up the arousal loss setting (default -20) I'm seeing better drops, though not the drop specified (set -30, lost 12 arousal). Might be some behind the scenes calculations going on. I know it's optional but the default seems low. Might consider increasing it a bit (friendly suggestion)

 

On 2/23/2022 at 2:33 PM, DayTri said:

NPC can also choose to edge themselves in some cases, IIRC based on their relationship rank w/ PC. (They will wait for you if they like you? IDK). So maybe playing with SLEN or something which increases relationship rank on sex could cause this behavior to appear progressive as well.

Hmm. Not sure. I don't use SLEN but it can seem to happen with any partner. I wonder is it some kind of tag confusion - a scene where the PC can't cum (blowjob/handjob) being held up by this mechanic you mention possibly?

 

I'll try to keep an eye on it going forward. 

 

On 2/23/2022 at 2:33 PM, DayTri said:

3: I think that in some cases enjoyment from a previous animation is carried into the next, for some reason I remember this as having a 1 hour in-game cooldown?

I'll try to keep this in mind. 

Any idea if there's some way to reset this for 'a level playing field' for games and such? It's not ideal for them. 

I suppose masturbation might be one for the PC. But what about her partner...?

 

Edit2:

Also I would love to see an 'import settings' button, pretty please...?

Edited February 25, 2022 by Monoman1

[DayTri]

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Any idea if there's some way to reset this for 'a level playing field' for games and such? It's not ideal for them. 

I suppose masturbation might be one for the PC. But what about her partner...?

 

Edit2:

Also I would love to see an 'import settings' button, pretty please...?

 

I have tried this myself when toying around with making mods, best I found to do was to wait for enjoyment to initialize, catch it, then modify it by directly calling the BonusEnjoyment (I think?) function on ActorAlias to lower it. Doesn't help if the problem is instant orgasm though...probably can't catch in time...

 

re: Settings, in my experience changes to SLSO settings persist between saves somehow, possibly because they are stored in a json file rather than the save itself?

[ldcidos]

Hey, I'm using SLSO with SexLab Utility Plus, and I have a persistent  bug of being unable to orgasm during the last stage of the animation, no matter what sort of sex scene is taking place. 

This happens despite the "AI edging" option in the SLSO menu being turned off.

OsmelMC, the creator of SexLab Utility Plus, suggested the issue might be with SLSO and not with his mod.

 

[DayTri]

On 2/26/2022 at 5:48 PM, ldcidos said:

Hey, I'm using SLSO with SexLab Utility Plus, and I have a persistent  bug of being unable to orgasm during the last stage of the animation, no matter what sort of sex scene is taking place. 

This happens despite the "AI edging" option in the SLSO menu being turned off.

OsmelMC, the creator of SexLab Utility Plus, suggested the issue might be with SLSO and not with his mod.

 

 

That was patched in 1.7.7 for SE: https://github.com/ak86/SexLab-Separate-Orgasm/commits/SE

 

Not sure why it didn't get included in the LE release, maybe Ed forgot or thought it didn't effect this version.

[Ed86]

16 hours ago, DayTri said:

 

That was patched in 1.7.7 for SE: https://github.com/ak86/SexLab-Separate-Orgasm/commits/SE

 

Not sure why it didn't get included in the LE release, maybe Ed forgot or thought it didn't effect this version.

because that code 1.7.7 is SE only and isnt part of le sl 1.62

[Maddac]

dont know what i did wrong but when having sex my PC disappears and I can only see the NPC. when i go to camera mode and zoom back in I am in the ground looking up at the NPC.

[the.witcher]

On 3/3/2022 at 1:09 PM, Ed86 said:

because that code 1.7.7 is SE only and isnt part of le sl 1.62

 

Hello. So what does this mean for us LE users of SLSO and SUP? Use "as is", or there is some workaround?

[Ed86]

2 hours ago, the.witcher said:

 

Hello. So what does this mean for us LE users of SLSO and SUP? Use "as is", or there is some workaround?

it means that you need to look at sup source code to figure out if its working or not and fix it if its not

[KrisHummings]

Hey, great mod! Has been working flawlessly for a pretty long time!

 

However, recently I installed SLEN and something weird started happening since the first time I triggered a SL scene through SLEN, don't know if/how these events can be related, but anyway..

After 1 min or so into the first animation, the SLSO commands for BonusEnjoyment and Edge stop working completely. Triggering a second SL scene, those controls won't do anything right from the beginning, even though SL hotkeys work fine. I tried to trigger SL animations through various mods and means, and the problem persisted. Tried changing the hotkeys in the MCM, without success.

Tried reverting to a previous save, and the same thing was happening. Reinstalled SLEN and SLSO, no change. Even only having SLSO installed, it persists.

 

The SL Disable victim controls was off, my magicka and stamina don't decrease, neither the NPC's. All the other functionalities of SLSO work flawlessly.

 

Here is my load order, if it's of interest:

Spoiler

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
CreatureFramework.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
SexLab.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
Heels Sound.esm
EFFCore.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
SLSO.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
SL Survival.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
Public Whore.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
submissivelola_est.esp
kal_LolaAddon.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp
[Odd] Hellraiser.esp
FWB_SexLabDisparity.esp
VR_Tannick.esp
dcc-dm2.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
mslDeviousCaptures.esp
DeviousBodyAlteration.esp
Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
iNeed.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
SlaveTats.esp
LootandDegradation.esp
DW.esp
Botox - Skyrim.esp
Botox - Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
12FemaleBrows.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
UIExtensions.esp
SkyUI.esp
SkyTweak.esp
FISS.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
FNIS.esp
Bob's Boots CBBE v8.0.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
ccas_starts.esp
Botox - Alternate Start - Live Another Live.esp

 

Thanks in advance! If anyone could help figure this issue out, would be great

 

Edit: I figured it out. Apparently, the problem was being caused by an undesired effect of a debuff I set on SexLab Disparity. My character was having her max Magicka reduced, and probably still had enough to avoid auto-pilot but not enough to recognize and use through keywords commands. That's my guess...

Even though it still doesn't explain why it wasn't working even on a new save, in the LAL initial cell lol

Edited April 7, 2022 by KrisHummings

[Maddac]

I have SLSO 1.7.8 loaded and what happens is either the NPC or PC appear as invisible. if NPC is invisible I can see PC but looks like they are alone, if PC is invisible then after the act PC doesnt reappear but is stuck in the ground and invisible. see attached. never used to have this problem. I should mention that everything else worked just fine prior to installing SLSO. this issue only happens with it installed.

Edited March 24, 2022 by Maddac
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[KrisHummings]

6 hours ago, Maddac said:

I have SLSO 1.7.8 loaded and what happens is either the NPC or PC appear as invisible. if NPC is invisible I can see PC but looks like they are alone, if PC is invisible then after the act PC doesnt reappear but is stuck in the ground and invisible. see attached. never used to have this problem. I should mention that everything else worked just fine prior to installing SLSO. this issue only happens with it installed.

I'm not sure if this is the issue, but if you have your camera right behind a NPC, it disappears as part of a feature of the vanilla game. If you cause that right before a SL scene, the NPC doesn't come back because the game doesn't refresh the state of the camera during an animation, so try to zoom out before starting a SL animation to avoid this issue.

No idea what could be causing that for the PC, though.. Have you tried the Realign Actors hotkey from SL?

[Maddac]

8 hours ago, KrisHummings said:

I'm not sure if this is the issue, but if you have your camera right behind a NPC, it disappears as part of a feature of the vanilla game. If you cause that right before a SL scene, the NPC doesn't come back because the game doesn't refresh the state of the camera during an animation, so try to zoom out before starting a SL animation to avoid this issue.

No idea what could be causing that for the PC, though.. Have you tried the Realign Actors hotkey from SL?

I always set camera in SL so i can pan around while the act is on. I never had a problem until i installed SLSO on this build. never ever used realign actor hotkey in SL for the PC. I played with SLSO a couple of times over the years, but this is the first time I have had either PC or NPC disappear while in sex act.

[KrisHummings]

36 minutes ago, Maddac said:

never ever used realign actor hotkey in SL for the PC

That's what I'd suggest you to try, it'll try to place the actors in the right positions again

[laskyYu]

When I using this mod, I came across a problem. After installed this mod, my character's first sex with NPC was normal but start from second sex, my character was somehow stucked underground (as shown in this image) and I can't see my character even in third person view. i tried tcl, it didn't work, fast travel didn't work, restart game also didn't work.

 

I have no idea why this problem happens, is it because mod confliction? Or just because I didn't get the load order right.

 

 

 

 

 

[the.witcher]

2 hours ago, laskyYu said:

When I using this mod, I came across a problem. After installed this mod, my character's first sex with NPC was normal but start from second sex, my character was somehow stucked underground (as shown in this image) and I can't see my character even in third person view. i tried tcl, it didn't work, fast travel didn't work, restart game also didn't work.

 

I have no idea why this problem happens, is it because mod confliction? Or just because I didn't get the load order right.

 

 

 

 

 

Try load order:

 

SLAX must be after SLSO. SUP should be before SLAX.

In SexLab disable something called like `idle animations before sex` or something like that.

My working load order for sexlab is something like this:

 

Quote

[- - - - - - SexLab - - - - - -]
Hearthfire multiple Adoptions V2_0_15
Fertility Mode
Fertility Adventures LE
SexLabFramework_v162_FULL
SexLab CumTextures Remake v1.2
SexLab_Extra_Voices_1_5
SexLab Compatible Noble Bed Double
Common and UpperClass beds meshes replacer LE
SexLab Tools v3.0
ZaZ Animation Pack+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+
SexLab Animation Loader
Cumshot
Dripping when aroused
SexLab Separate Orgasm
Sexlab - Cum Overlays
[# Devious Devices]
[# SlaveTats]
[# SLAL Animations]
[# VoicePacks]
[# SexLab functionalities]
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patched
Prison Overhaul Patched
SLSFFameComments v3.31 SE
Sex Lab - Sexual Fame 0.99
Radiant Prostitution-Gigolo SE v7.0.4
SkoomaWhore
SLSW Addicted 3.64 LE
SexLab Solutions v5.0.7
SexLab Confabulation V1.7.4
SexLabWorkingGirl
SL Defeat LE.5.3.6 Bane 08022022
SexLab_PaySexCrime
Skyrim - Utility Mod
SL Adventures 0.74.0
SexLab Eager NPCs_20161127_English
Corruption
Wintersun - SexLab Integration 1.3.3
Apropos2.1.0.0.10
SexLab Utility Plus
AhegaoTonguesHDT1.31
SLAX - 29 - 2019

 

If you are using

[laskyYu]

17 minutes ago, the.witcher said:

Try load order:

 

SLAX must be after SLSO. SUP should be before SLAX.

In SexLab disable something called like `idle animations before sex` or something like that.

My working load order for sexlab is something like this:

 

 

If you are using

Thanks for the help:D

[KrisHummings]

On 4/6/2022 at 2:31 AM, laskyYu said:

When I using this mod, I came across a problem. After installed this mod, my character's first sex with NPC was normal but start from second sex, my character was somehow stucked underground (as shown in this image) and I can't see my character even in third person view. i tried tcl, it didn't work, fast travel didn't work, restart game also didn't work.

 

I have no idea why this problem happens, is it because mod confliction? Or just because I didn't get the load order right.

 

 

 

 

 

Try the realign actors hotkey from Sexlab during the animation

[PolskiHusarz20]

Hello I would like to suggest a new functionality - asking partner for more commitment.

This option would provide player to ask NPC which their PC is fkng at the moment to speed up if they have stamina available. Pretty simple but can expanded:
1. enabling NPCs to use this ability
2.  different ways of asking like: begging (being forced or being a sex addict), casual asking (like in consesual sex), being rude (trying to humiliate partner, especially attacker)

3.  every character should receive a debuff if one of them can't keep up (so it will be a bit risky to ask) but if they can keep up and decide to speed up, both characters should receive a buff (in consesual sex) 
4. when forced to beg for more, victim should receive some deviancy points in the sexlab
5. when asking rudely (to humiliate partner), the partner should receive a strong debuff if can't keep up but if they are taunted and they can respond to such affront they will make the sexual intercourse more unpleasant for the partner (propably with a STA, Skooma Whore or DD integration)
6. purposefuly edging partner whe he/she asked for more might provide a buff for character who edged 

As you can see there is plenty of possibilities which this feature might provide in the future, many of them will most likely require a third party mod but I think that adding it is worth considering.

[Ed86]

17 hours ago, PolskiHusarz20 said:

Hello I would like to suggest a new functionality - asking partner for more commitment.

This option would provide player to ask NPC which their PC is fkng at the moment to speed up if they have stamina available. Pretty simple but can expanded:
1. enabling NPCs to use this ability
2.  different ways of asking like: begging (being forced or being a sex addict), casual asking (like in consesual sex), being rude (trying to humiliate partner, especially attacker)

3.  every character should receive a debuff if one of them can't keep up (so it will be a bit risky to ask) but if they can keep up and decide to speed up, both characters should receive a buff (in consesual sex) 
4. when forced to beg for more, victim should receive some deviancy points in the sexlab
5. when asking rudely (to humiliate partner), the partner should receive a strong debuff if can't keep up but if they are taunted and they can respond to such affront they will make the sexual intercourse more unpleasant for the partner (propably with a STA, Skooma Whore or DD integration)
6. purposefuly edging partner whe he/she asked for more might provide a buff for character who edged 

As you can see there is plenty of possibilities which this feature might provide in the future, many of them will most likely require a third party mod but I think that adding it is worth considering.

99% not going to happen, idk c++ to write animation plugins and dont really want to bother with writing dialogues and stuff, and then  balancin all, that stuff

[PolskiHusarz20]

1 hour ago, Ed86 said:

99% not going to happen, idk c++ to write animation plugins and dont really want to bother with writing dialogues and stuff, and then  balancin all, that stuff

Understandable, have a nice day

[ptmc2112]

the patch for Estrus Chaurus+ is for version 4.346, will it still work with Estrus Chaurus+ version 4.390 (current version)?

Edited April 20, 2022 by ptmc2112

[Xiaron]

On 4/20/2022 at 10:41 AM, ptmc2112 said:

the patch for Estrus Chaurus+ is for version 4.346, will it still work with Estrus Chaurus+ version 4.390 (current version)?

EC+ now has native SLSO support, no patch needed. Using the patch here will actually break things.

[Ed86]

17 hours ago, Xiaron said:

EC+ now has native SLSO support, no patch needed. Using the patch here will actually break things.

hm.....? i guess i can remove EC patch?

[Dojo_dude]

Are there any potions you can use to best mindbreak/resist in SLSO?

Like the Stallion Potion that old man wants in Markarth! XD My mouse clicking doesn't really do much.

[Ed86]

1 hour ago, Dojo_dude said:

Are there any potions you can use to best mindbreak/resist in SLSO?

Like the Stallion Potion that old man wants in Markarth! XD My mouse clicking doesn't really do much.

any sp/mp potion + key bashing?