Devious Devices Framework Development/Beta

[Derenriche]

The Elbowbinder ArmorAddons are missing the bodypart for rings and they are showing up whenever elbowbinders are equipped.

[Hanshurtig11]

Recently i found, that the petsuit can be equipped, when character is wearing ponyplay boots. Animation stays with ponyplay boots, but speed is cut to petsuit. regards

[zenetx]

Guys, maybe you already know, but a "famous" youtube channel about gaming mods ("MxR Mods") just did a video about Devious Lore. As you might expect, youtube doesn't really help promoting this kind of videos, but his uncensored version on pornhub just went to #1 trending!

 

Besides that, I just want to say thank you to each one and everyone who contributed to make the devious legacy becomes what it is today. ❤️

 

I had the pleasure following this development since Zadil posted his first version many years ago, and to have seen the repercussion across all the internet since then.

 

Also, a very special thanks to Kimy, and her undying dedication to this mod community. ?

 

You guys are the best!

[MadMansGun]

1 hour ago, zenetx said:

Guys, maybe you already know, but a "famous" youtube channel about gaming mods ("MxR Mods") just did a video about Devious Lore.

that's NOT a good thing, a large majority of his fans are not the kind of people we want on this site, being under age and/or judgemental.

Eg: olebronkosrak was forced to hide all of there mods because of the hostile attention they have been receiving thanks to mxr's bullshit.

[Laura]

6 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

that's NOT a good thing, a large majority of his fans are not the kind of people we want on this site, being under age and/or judgemental.

Eg: olebronkosrak was forced to hide all of there mods because of the hostile attention they have been receiving thanks to mxr's bullshit.

I wouldn't say that it's that bad. I think it's a good thing to show what this site had to offer.

The attention also comes with some negative attention, but I'd say that it's a good thing overall.

 

I do agree that he purposefully puts us in a some bad light while maintaining the innocent routine.

I think his first LL video was about him fucking a goat. That wasn't a good start.

But his latest video was pretty good. A lot of the comments on it were from people surprised how good it looks.

This is the 3rd top comment right now: "There's more effort put into these mods than official Bethesda content."

 

The people that want to hate us probably won't make an account here and those that do come to hate will just get ignored.

There is a chance that there'll be more "My body is invisible!" and "My game doesn't work.".

I don't think that MXR's video is that bad for us.

[johan860915]

5 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I do agree that he purposefully puts us in a some bad light while maintaining the innocent routine.

I think his first LL video was about him fucking a goat. That wasn't a good start.

 

Personally, I think he’s trying to avoid touching DD, DCL or most of the big mods from LL for some reasons, maybe not to break YouTube guidelines or coping with his audience.

[YourFriendlyDragonborn]

14 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

that's NOT a good thing, a large majority of his fans are not the kind of people we want on this site, being under age and/or judgemental.

Eg: olebronkosrak was forced to hide all of there mods because of the hostile attention they have been receiving thanks to mxr's bullshit.

I dunno what got into his head. His channel was doing fine earlier, now it is demonetized. There was no point in covering LL mods for him. And he cant cover the best mods offered here. Totally a lose lose situation.  

[MadMansGun]

56 minutes ago, YourFriendlyDragonborn said:

now it is demonetized

but he's not, adds are still playing on his videos + now there are horny teenagers flocking to his patreon page.

the only one whos losing is us (mostly olebronkosrak so far)

[YourFriendlyDragonborn]

7 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

but he's not, adds are still playing on his videos + now there are horny teenagers flocking to his patreon page.

the only one whos losing is us (mostly olebronkosrak so far)

lol i never noticed. he just implied that in his recent video.

[Guest]

47 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

but he's not, adds are still playing on his videos + now there are horny teenagers flocking to his patreon page.

the only one whos losing is us (mostly olebronkosrak so far)

I am a fan of his I think hes funny, I don't know why you're being such a hater.

[MadMansGun]

3 hours ago, Risamei said:

I am a fan of his I think hes funny, I don't know why you're being such a hater.

1. he is a no talent assclown (I DARE HIM TO MAKE A MOD OF HIS OWN) that makes money by showing off other peoples work without there permission.

 

2. does not install mods correctly and therefor misrepresents the mods quality (eg: Ulri Hagraven Replacer requires a UNP body but he was using a CBBP body, causing a mesh gap on the ankle...that he then proceeded to show a close up shot of)

 

3. a large majority of his fans are not the kind of people we want on this site, being under age and/or judgemental.

 

4. his fans attack any mod authors that try to defend themselves from him.

 

5. by forcing olebronkosrak into hiding he has severely hindered progress on Dragoness HDT, therefor potentially damaging the quality of my future dragoness animations.

 

edit: 6. he endorsed moddrop.

[CheddarTrauma]

23 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

1. he is a no talent assclown that makes money by showing off other peoples work. I DARE HIM TO MAKE A MOD OF HIS OWN.

 

2. does not install mods correctly and therefor misrepresents the mods quality (eg: Ulri Hagraven Replacer requires a UNP body but he was using a CBBP body, causing a mesh gap on the ankle...that he then proceeded to show a close up shot of)

 

3. a large majority of his fans are not the kind of people we want on this site, being under age and/or judgemental.

 

4. his fans attack any mod authors that try to defend themselves from him.

 

5. by forcing olebronkosrak into hiding he has severely hindered progress on Dragoness HDT, therefor potentially damaging the quality of my future dragoness animations.

Never took you as the sort of person to want to die on this hill.

 

I'm genuinely curious what caused olebronkosrak into "hiding" as you say.

From a users perspective all I've seen is him bummed that one of his mods received outside publicity, then he hid them all.

How was he harassed for him to make this decision? I haven't seen any public negativity directed at mods or mod authors since the 'adult mods' series began.

 

Instead, I've seen it directed at MxR with flimsy reasoning such as points 1-3.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

1. he is a no talent assclown (I DARE HIM TO MAKE A MOD OF HIS OWN) that makes money by showing off other peoples work without there permission.

 

2. does not install mods correctly and therefor misrepresents the mods quality (eg: Ulri Hagraven Replacer requires a UNP body but he was using a CBBP body, causing a mesh gap on the ankle...that he then proceeded to show a close up shot of)

 

3. a large majority of his fans are not the kind of people we want on this site, being under age and/or judgemental.

 

4. his fans attack any mod authors that try to defend themselves from him.

 

5. by forcing olebronkosrak into hiding he has severely hindered progress on Dragoness HDT, therefor potentially damaging the quality of my future dragoness animations.

 

edit: 6. he endorsed moddrop.

1.) He isn't a modder his talent is that he makes funny videos, I understand that personal opinion but quiet a few ppl think he is so..

2.) I mean I am sure he didn't mean to install the mod wrong on purpose I think you're being a little to hard on him.

3.) You're generalizing about his fanbase because you're blinded by your hatred for him.

4.) He is also not responsible for his fans.

5.) olebronkosrak chose that himself/herself he didn't target harass them he only does showcases if people can't take mild harassment on the internet anyway they shouldn't have uploaded in the first place. 

[YourFriendlyDragonborn]

2 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

1. he is a no talent assclown (I DARE HIM TO MAKE A MOD OF HIS OWN) that makes money by showing off other peoples work without there permission.

 

2. does not install mods correctly and therefor misrepresents the mods quality (eg: Ulri Hagraven Replacer requires a UNP body but he was using a CBBP body, causing a mesh gap on the ankle...that he then proceeded to show a close up shot of)

 

3. a large majority of his fans are not the kind of people we want on this site, being under age and/or judgemental.

 

4. his fans attack any mod authors that try to defend themselves from him.

 

5. by forcing olebronkosrak into hiding he has severely hindered progress on Dragoness HDT, therefor potentially damaging the quality of my future dragoness animations.

 

edit: 6. he endorsed moddrop.

he was also anti nexus in his earlier days, calling nexus users pirates

[MadMansGun]

5 hours ago, hylysi said:

How was he harassed for him to make this decision?

there has been some unfriendly messages on youtube (of course), but i don't even want to know what messages he has been getting in his pm box or elsewhere.

 

3 hours ago, Risamei said:

1.) He isn't a modder his talent is that he makes funny videos, I understand that personal opinion but quiet a few ppl think he is so..

2.) I mean I am sure he didn't mean to install the mod wrong on purpose I think you're being a little to hard on him.

3.) You're generalizing about his fanbase because you're blinded by your hatred for him.

4.) He is also not responsible for his fans.

5.) olebronkosrak chose that himself/herself he didn't target harass them he only does showcases if people can't take mild harassment on the internet anyway they shouldn't have uploaded in the first place. 

1. Gopher can make & review mods at the same time, so why can't he?

2. no i'm not, he should read the fucking instructions for whatever mod he is trying to review shit on.

3. irrelevant, facts are facts. i only hate him because he insulted/harmed my associates. otherwise i would not have given a flying fuck about him or his fans.

4. yes he is, he is responsible for what he shows them and what he tells them.

5. the risk of harassment was next to nonexistence when the mods got uploaded, there are much larger mods on the site with the same sort of content in them and they have never had harassment problems, therefor olebronkosrak should of had nothing to fear, but mxr changed that when he singled out olebronkosrak twice in a row to the YouTrolls.

[Guest]

47 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

there has been some unfriendly messages on youtube (of course), but i don't even want to know what messages he has been getting in his pm box or elsewhere.

 

1. Gopher can make & review mods at the same time, so why can't he?

2. no i'm not, he should read the fucking instructions for whatever mod he is trying to review shit on.

3. irrelevant, facts are facts. i only hate him because he insulted/harmed my associates. otherwise i would not have given a flying fuck about him or his fans.

4. yes he is, he is responsible for what he shows them and what he tells them.

5. the risk of harassment was next to nonexistence when the mods got uploaded, there are much larger mods on the site with the same sort of content in them and they have never had harassment problems, therefor olebronkosrak should of had nothing to fear, but mxr changed that when he singled out olebronkosrak twice in a row to the YouTrolls.

I honestly think you're getting a little too heated to have a discussion honestly its okay to have an opinion but you're being unreasonably mean about this whole thing.

 

Hes a reviewer not a modder just because he doesn't make his own mods doesn't mean anything. He's a comedian he makes jokes if you seen his vlogs you would know hes not a bad guy. He didn't directly insult or harm anyone unless you have some actually evidence of him inciting violence or harasment other then "oh the texture is messed up here" if that is considered harming someone then we have two very different definitions. Hes only responsible for his own actions and I am pretty sure he never said "hey everyone troll this modder" he never incited anything I know that for a fact he would never, just because someone is your fan doesn't mean you're responsible for them. When things are put in the public sphere you have an increased chances of running into rude people but in no way does that reflect him or his fanbase. 

 

Sorry you think he directly hurt your friend but your friend needs to grow a thicker skin, not trying to be mean but its internet 101 I have had my fair share of harassers, so all I am saying is unless he straight out incited harassment on your friend then I would say its not really his problem.

[Darkpig]

People should just take the MXR talk outside unless you want to be bound and gagged in which case you are free to try. This is a thread about bondage after all.

[MadMansGun]

41 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

This is a thread about bondage after all.

#winning

Spoiler

 

[Darkpig]

20 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

#winning

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We don't give the ancient nords enough shit for making dragon traps out of wood... whatever

[MadMansGun]

6 hours ago, Darkpig said:

We don't give the ancient nords enough shit for making dragon traps out of wood... whatever

wood works fine for frost/snow/ice dragons, besides that its probably enchanted with resist fire.

[Laura]

18 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

Now that this discussion is about MxR Mods, I am now going to check that guy out... I don't pay much attention to youtubers since most are egomaniacs and get far more patreon donations than people who actually create things. Oh look at me I buy some high tech equipment and can make videos of myself. It's like praising someone's selfie, yeah, no. 

 

Edit: 1700 patrons? Seriously? Don't give this guy more air to breathe, for the love of all that is holy. That is more than Gopher at 900 or so, way to many. Meanwhile people like MMG. Ashal (LL), Kimy, Komotor, DarkConsole, Ed86, Arthmoor, Elminster (xEdit creator), etc don't get anywhere near quadruple digit donations. Screw youtubers. 

 

Oh, here is another excellent example of the community caring about youtubers more than the people who actually make mods: https://www.patreon.com/nexusmods 398 patrons. Yeah.. "the community", pfft. 

 

If you want to throw money at someone, throw it at those who actually MAKE content for games. After all, who do you think is more creative, a youtuber or a mod maker?

I completely agree about the Patreon part. The people that make mods should get more recognition than the ones that just show them.

[El_Duderino]

2 hours ago, Alkpaz said:

If you want to throw money at someone, throw it at those who actually MAKE content for games. After all, who do you think is more creative, a youtuber or a mod maker?

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I completely agree about the Patreon part. The people that make mods should get more recognition than the ones that just show them.

 

I couldn't agree more! At least send a few bucks to Ashal if you can afford the $ 36 a year / $ 3 per month for providing this fantastic and cozy place here which we all enjoy so much. Currently, https://www.patreon.com/loverslab/overview is at 367 patrons and I'm pretty sure that's less than it was when I signed up.

 

Also, I think this is a good point to stop talking about Youtubers or whatnot. This is the DD Beta thread after all and even though there currently aren't any urgent things to test, filling the thread with off-topic stuff will make it more difficult to find relevant information in it.

[Kimy]

2 hours ago, Alkpaz said:

Edit: 1700 patrons? Seriously? Don't give this guy more air to breathe, for the love of all that is holy. That is more than Gopher at 900 or so, way to many. Meanwhile people like MMG. Ashal (LL), Kimy, Komotor, DarkConsole, Ed86, Arthmoor, Elminster (xEdit creator), etc don't get anywhere near quadruple digit donations.

Mine has actually been going down lately. Haha! I guess I need to learn how to make funny videos...

[MadMansGun]

3 hours ago, Alkpaz said:

Meanwhile people like MMG. Ashal (LL), Kimy, Komotor, DarkConsole, Ed86, Arthmoor, Elminster (xEdit creator), etc don't get anywhere near quadruple digit donations.

SirNibbles is in much more need than i am, he only has 2 hours a day to himself due to being overworked.

 

1 hour ago, Kimy said:

Mine has actually been going down lately. Haha! I guess I need to learn how to make funny videos...

1. get a pet.

2. get a small rc car.

3. do some half assed video editing.

4. add click bate thumbnail.

5. profit.

[YourFriendlyDragonborn]

1 hour ago, Kimy said:

Mine has actually been going down lately. Haha! I guess I need to learn how to make funny videos...

well funny tutorials to install LL mods are real necessity here. first half for free, other half patreon exclusive