Nazzzgul666 Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 This has one or two plugs that move in and out, if VirginMarie is intrested and can get permission. Teaser for next release... Got permission, added effects for it, retextured to match, and tied into story. *tries to look innocent*. There's actually 3 new devices if you can spot them. You're awesome!
bicobus Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Hello gents and gals, I'm writing this message to get a bit of feedback about compatibility and playability with other sexing mods. Mainly, with Sanguine debauchery (SD+). Because SD+ usually involve trapping the player in a submissive relationship with a random npc, relationship that usually last until said NPC is dead and can span over a week. It also has unexpected teleportation of the player in the sanguine realm. All of this may eventually be a breaking point for other mods. Which leads to my query: could anybody appraise of the workability between these two mods (SD+ and "shout like a virgin"). Did anybody played both and how was the overall experience? I'm asking before venturing too far into my current playthrough and finding myself needing to restart from scratch. My second query is: if the player is trapped, bound and cannot move for a long period of time (a day?) in the wild. If a dragon attacks occurs, what then? Is such a thing even possible? And then they told me to go shout up there on the hill, to wait for her with a bouquet of wild roses. I picked up flowers and I shouted all I could. I waited, waited, yet she never came. Zaï, zaï, zaï...
mercplatypus Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Hello gents and gals, I'm writing this message to get a bit of feedback about compatibility and playability with other sexing mods. Mainly, with Sanguine debauchery (SD+). Because SD+ usually involve trapping the player in a submissive relationship with a random npc, relationship that usually last until said NPC is dead and can span over a week. It also has unexpected teleportation of the player in the sanguine realm. All of this may eventually be a breaking point for other mods. Extensive work has been put into making Virgin compatible with other DDI related mods. This mod will typically avoid any of its events if it detects that you have devices from another mod attached as long as the other mod author has designed their mod with compatibility in mind. It is possible that there could be a conflict between the 2 that has not been reported yet, especially with known issues related to the recent update to DDI. At the very least you will want to disable the death alternative option in Virgin so that it does not prevent you from becoming enslaved. Which leads to my query: could anybody appraise of the workability between these two mods (SD+ and "shout like a virgin"). Did anybody played both and how was the overall experience? I'm asking before venturing too far into my current playthrough and finding myself needing to restart from scratch. My second query is: if the player is trapped, bound and cannot move for a long period of time (a day?) in the wild. If a dragon attacks occurs, what then? Is such a thing even possible? Virgin does not tie you up to the point where you are unable to play the game, i.e. armbinders and the like. Such a scenario literally cannot happen as a result of Virgin. If whatever mod that does tie you up that extremely did not take that scenario into account then you will likely simply die. If you are still able to shout then Virgin will still give you a way to fight back with the main shout f the mod, Thuum of Love. It will transform the dragon into a maiden, a sexlab scene occurs, and you will inflict damage upon the dragon. It is still possible you will die horribly anyway, but Thuum of Love when fully unlocked does carry a chance to autokill that dragon. And then they told me to go shout up there on the hill, to wait for her with a bouquet of wild roses. I picked up flowers and I shouted all I could. I waited, waited, yet she never came. Zaï, zaï, zaï... There is still a large amount of updating that needs to happen with several DDI mods after the recent update. As far as I'm aware SD+ has not been updated to account for the new changes yet. Virgin has been designed to be as backward compatible as possible but it is still possible for you to have problems related to the update between multiple mods. I can tell you that as of right now we are not aware of any major conflicts with SD+ but would be very interested if you find any. We do have quite a bit of feedback on compatibility with othr mods such as Captured Dreams and DCL and so far neither have been an issue. Maria Eden is simply a flat pain in the neck for any DDI related stuff. Has this answered your question?
Nazzzgul666 Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Maria Eden is simply a flat pain in the neck for any DDI related stuff. Has this answered your question? Short note: the next version of ME will remove DD requirements, and hopefully all conflicts.
mercplatypus Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Maria Eden is simply a flat pain in the neck for any DDI related stuff. Has this answered your question? Short note: the next version of ME will remove DD requirements, and hopefully all conflicts. Fully aware and aware of the reasons why the author would choose to do so. I only really care about ME in terms of how it reacts to Virgin to be honest.
VirginMarie Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 Hello gents and gals, I'm writing this message to get a bit of feedback about compatibility and playability with other sexing mods. Mainly, with Sanguine debauchery (SD+). Because SD+ usually involve trapping the player in a submissive relationship with a random npc, relationship that usually last until said NPC is dead and can span over a week. It also has unexpected teleportation of the player in the sanguine realm. All of this may eventually be a breaking point for other mods. Which leads to my query: could anybody appraise of the workability between these two mods (SD+ and "shout like a virgin"). Did anybody played both and how was the overall experience? I'm asking before venturing too far into my current playthrough and finding myself needing to restart from scratch. My second query is: if the player is trapped, bound and cannot move for a long period of time (a day?) in the wild. If a dragon attacks occurs, what then? Is such a thing even possible? And then they told me to go shout up there on the hill, to wait for her with a bouquet of wild roses. I picked up flowers and I shouted all I could. I waited, waited, yet she never came. Zaï, zaï, zaï... If I can add a bit to the conversation... When I think of SD+, there's these categories of compatibility to consider: shared equipping/unequipping of devices potential to interrupt each other's scenes being detained by SD+ for long periods I've not personally tested each of these. But generally speaking... Virgin plays nice with other mod's equipped items. If they are marked as quest items, they will never be removed by virgin. I don't know if SD+ will do the same in return. Even if it does it would not break Virgin, only your roleplay Virgin will not interrupt any sexlab scene. It has no way to detect non-sexlab SD+ scenes. So this is where I'd be most concerned about compatibility. There's been zero reports of problems though. If you find something, most anything can be turned off in Virgin MCM There's only one Virgin feature where this would matter... Reporting In to Nocturnal, which, eventually in the story, something you need to do every 5 days by default. This can be increased as high as 20 days. If you do not report in Virgin will try to put a punishing collar on you. My bet is that with SD it will not be able to equip it, due to a quest marked SD collar, thus this will be handled gracefully. Its designed to deal with that. Again... no reports of problems so far Some points of clarification: especially with known issues related to the recent update to DDI. The known issues (which may now be all fixed), have been all new device related. Stuff like bodyslide support... cosmetic or related animations. None of this impacts Virgin as it does not use those new assets. There's been just one known issue that effects Virgin... Anal and Nipple devices changed a bit. But this only impacts mods that had custom Anal and/or Nipple devices. The Virgin 3.01 release made it compatible again (backwards compatible too). There is still a large amount of updating that needs to happen with several DDI mods after the recent update. Only if mods have custom Anal/Nipple devices, or use the new assets. Thus many mods would need no updating. Maria Eden is simply a flat pain in the neck for any DDI related stuff Maria Eden will prevent gag talk, not just for it's own gags, but ALL gags. So while annoying and breaking roleplay, the workaround for Virgin is just disable the virgin gags. No problem then That's the only Maria thing that's known to impact Virgin. I've always expected to hear there's more though, but maybe nothing breaking as we've had no reports beyond the gag thing.
VirginMarie Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 Short note: the next version of ME will remove DD requirements, and hopefully all conflicts. Removing DD would make it very hard for Maria to avoid conflicts. For example, with no DD awareness, how will it play nice with other mod's devices? Then there's the inverse... how can Virgin be expected to play nice with Maria? There must be a shared framework, otherwise Maria is off on it's own and you would never play it will other DD mods at the same time. Not the place to get into deep conversation on such an exciting topic though
bicobus Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Ah yes, I forgot to highlight the fact that Noctural seems to wants to keep the dragonborn pure and fresh while Sanguine is yelling at her "You lunatic, sex is the best thing!". There must be ways to detect when the player is handled by SD+, if a more intricate cooperation war between sanguine and noctural should occur. Short note: the next version of ME will remove DD requirements, and hopefully all conflicts. Removing DD would make it very hard for Maria to avoid conflicts. For example, with no DD awareness, how will it play nice with other mod's devices? Then there's the inverse... how can Virgin be expected to play nice with Maria? There must be a shared framework, otherwise Maria is off on it's own and you would never play it will other DD mods at the same time. Not the place to get into deep conversation on such an exciting topic though Maria doesn't seem to care about other mods. The author seems to aim to do one thing, and do that thing in a peculiar way.
VirginMarie Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 Ah yes, I forgot to highlight the fact that Noctural seems to wants to keep the dragonborn pure and fresh while Sanguine is yelling at her "You lunatic, sex is the best thing!". Lol. Sometimes people figure Shout Like a Virgin is all about keeping virginity. But don't forget, Dibella is in the story too and she feels the same as Sanguine. I'd argue that Shout Like a Virgin is more about losing your virginity. But gives you plenty of reasons to want to go back to being pure, which makes it all the more interesting as you can lose it again... and again ... There must be ways to detect when the player is handled by SD+, if a more intricate cooperation war between sanguine and noctural should occur. Ya instead of saying "has no way to detect SD+ scenes"... would be more accurate to say "has no generic, through common framework, way to detect SD+ scenes". So I'd have to build SD+ specific code to do so. I've already done that for DD events and for Cursed Loot. I've not considered doing this for SD+, primarily because Death Alternative is banned from my load order. But I'm not yet up-to-date with the latest SD and it's relationship with DA.. maybe it will soon be time to look harder at SD.
bicobus Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 SkyrimLL dropped the hard requirement for DA in the latest version. It is still available for those who want to use it, but the mod will do fine without. I don't understand why people do not like death alternative though. It does provide with a really convenient and centralized way to deal with the player being beaten.
cecik Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Ah yes, I forgot to highlight the fact that Noctural seems to wants to keep the dragonborn pure and fresh while Sanguine is yelling at her "You lunatic, sex is the best thing!". There must be ways to detect when the player is handled by SD+, if a more intricate cooperation war between sanguine and noctural should occur. Short note: the next version of ME will remove DD requirements, and hopefully all conflicts. Removing DD would make it very hard for Maria to avoid conflicts. For example, with no DD awareness, how will it play nice with other mod's devices? Then there's the inverse... how can Virgin be expected to play nice with Maria? There must be a shared framework, otherwise Maria is off on it's own and you would never play it will other DD mods at the same time. Not the place to get into deep conversation on such an exciting topic though Maria doesn't seem to care about other mods. The author seems to aim to do one thing, and do that thing in a peculiar way. @VirginMarie You're right that this isn't the place to have conversation about his topic, however, taking the risk of being a 'smartass' I would like to remind you of rule no. 1 of this site, especially this line: quote Meaning if you don't like the way a mod is going, don't be a jerk about it, they can take the mod in whatever direction they want. Unquote
VirginMarie Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 @VirginMarie You're right that this isn't the place to have conversation about his topic, however, taking the risk of being a 'smartass' I would like to remind you of rule no. 1 of this site, especially this line: quote Meaning if you don't like the way a mod is going, don't be a jerk about it, they can take the mod in whatever direction they want. Unquote You are right. Which is why I was trying to shut the topic (which I did not start) down. I don't think I was being a jerk about it.
VirginMarie Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 SkyrimLL dropped the hard requirement for DA in the latest version. It is still available for those who want to use it, but the mod will do fine without. Yes I'm aware which is why the comment I made about not being up-to-date. Have not tried it. out yet. I don't understand why people do not like death alternative though. It does provide with a really convenient and centralized way to deal with the player being beaten. I don't dislike what it intends to do. Before I started modding, SD was in my top 3 most loved mods. I was of course using DA for a long time therefor. I was just never able to get it to work correctly. I'd try it alone to see if it was SD, but still no success. When you need a very stable environment to test your own mod, so that if there's errors, you know they can only be coming from your own mod, or at least pin point the source, having DA cannot fit my requirement. Before I had much higher tolerance for living with issues present
DonQuiWho Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 My PC thought that she'd just leap in to say 'Thanks' for her own special waterfall
VirginMarie Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 My PC thought that she'd just leap in to say 'Thanks' for her own special waterfall TESV 2016-11-29 12-11-45-95.jpg TESV 2016-11-29 12-12-21-85.jpg Beautiful view! Did your PC get wet?
DonQuiWho Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 My PC thought that she'd just leap in to say 'Thanks' for her own special waterfall TESV 2016-11-29 12-11-45-95.jpg TESV 2016-11-29 12-12-21-85.jpg Beautiful view! Did your PC get wet? So much so, that she even ended up aquaplaning over the water!
zmultimedia Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Error con el mod, cuando empieza al parecer la primera misión, el juego crashea. Uso NMM
mercplatypus Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Error con el mod, cuando empieza al parecer la primera misión, el juego crashea. Uso NMM El autor de mod y yo solo hablamos inglés. Estoy corriendo esto a través de google translate. Vamos a necesitar más información. ¿Se refiere al mejor amigo de Daedra? ¿Qué hacías exactamente? ¿Estabas hablando con alguien, actualización de revistas, etc.
zmultimedia Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Error con el mod, cuando empieza al parecer la primera misión, el juego crashea. Uso NMM El autor de mod y yo solo hablamos inglés. Estoy corriendo esto a través de google translate. Vamos a necesitar más información. ¿Se refiere al mejor amigo de Daedra? ¿Qué hacías exactamente? ¿Estabas hablando con alguien, actualización de revistas, etc. Hago el grito, aparece Cassia y ocurre una conversación, al elegir SI, inicia una escena amorosa, unos segundos en la escena, Cassia cambia de ropa y es ahí cuando el juego Crashea.
mercplatypus Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Error con el mod, cuando empieza al parecer la primera misión, el juego crashea. Uso NMM El autor de mod y yo solo hablamos inglés. Estoy corriendo esto a través de google translate. Vamos a necesitar más información. ¿Se refiere al mejor amigo de Daedra? ¿Qué hacías exactamente? ¿Estabas hablando con alguien, actualización de revistas, etc. Hago el grito, aparece Cassia y ocurre una conversación, al elegir SI, inicia una escena amorosa, unos segundos en la escena, Cassia cambia de ropa y es ahí cuando el juego Crashea. ¿Así que ocurre durante una escena de animación de SexLab? ŻCómo que cambia de ropa? La única ropa que usa la Cassia son los dispositivos virginales que deben permanecer equipados y una capucha. Cualquier otra cosa no está relacionada con este mod. ¿También habilitaste la opción "incluso actores de altura" en sexlab? Esta opción es conocida por causar accidentes. Por último, ¿está ejecutando las versiones actuales de este mod y sus dependencias?
zmultimedia Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Error con el mod, cuando empieza al parecer la primera misión, el juego crashea. Uso NMM El autor de mod y yo solo hablamos inglés. Estoy corriendo esto a través de google translate. Vamos a necesitar más información. ¿Se refiere al mejor amigo de Daedra? ¿Qué hacías exactamente? ¿Estabas hablando con alguien, actualización de revistas, etc. Hago el grito, aparece Cassia y ocurre una conversación, al elegir SI, inicia una escena amorosa, unos segundos en la escena, Cassia cambia de ropa y es ahí cuando el juego Crashea. ¿Así que ocurre durante una escena de animación de SexLab? ŻCómo que cambia de ropa? La única ropa que usa la Cassia son los dispositivos virginales que deben permanecer equipados y una capucha. Cualquier otra cosa no está relacionada con este mod. ¿También habilitaste la opción "incluso actores de altura" en sexlab? Esta opción es conocida por causar accidentes. Por último, ¿está ejecutando las versiones actuales de este mod y sus dependencias? Esa es la ropa que causa el error. Cuando aparece por primera vez, está totalmente desnuda, en la escena de amor es cuando le aparecen los dispositivos y la capucha. Las versiones del mod y sus dependencias son las mas actuales. Gracias por mencionar la opción de SexLab, no se me había ocurrido. Lamentablemente he tenido que reinstalar el juego ya que metí otros mods pero los había desactivado con el NMM y pensé que quedaron residuos que estaban causando problemas. Por cierto, ¿en qué parte se encuentra la opción que mencionas?
mercplatypus Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 ¿Así que ocurre durante una escena de animación de SexLab? ŻCómo que cambia de ropa? La única ropa que usa la Cassia son los dispositivos virginales que deben permanecer equipados y una capucha. Cualquier otra cosa no está relacionada con este mod. ¿También habilitaste la opción "incluso actores de altura" en sexlab? Esta opción es conocida por causar accidentes. Por último, ¿está ejecutando las versiones actuales de este mod y sus dependencias? Esa es la ropa que causa el error. Cuando aparece por primera vez, está totalmente desnuda, en la escena de amor es cuando le aparecen los dispositivos y la capucha. Las versiones del mod y sus dependencias son las mas actuales. Gracias por mencionar la opción de SexLab, no se me había ocurrido. Lamentablemente he tenido que reinstalar el juego ya que metí otros mods pero los había desactivado con el NMM y pensé que quedaron residuos que estaban causando problemas. Por cierto, ¿en qué parte se encuentra la opción que mencionas? Suena como los dispositivos están tardando un minuto para cargar en entonces. Las únicas veces que he visto que toman tanto tiempo fue con la extensa física de HDT en el trabajo. Usted declaró que tenía que hacer una reinstalación. ¿Cambió alrededor de su orden de carga después de iniciar este playthrough o ha permanecido constante? Si ha cambiado su orden de carga podría haber dañado el archivo de guardar. También es posible que tenga un problema de descarga o instalación incorrecto. Si selecciona la opción misc. Ficha en Virgen la opción "omitir parte inicial de la historia" ¿te da un accidente? Si es así, probablemente los activos no se descargaron correctamente y deben reinstalarse. La opción "incluso actores" en sexlab viene deshabilitada por defecto. Si usted no sabía que existía entonces probablemente no lo han habilitado. Se encuentra en la página de configuración de animaciones. Podemos necesitar un registro de papiro para averiguar mejor lo que está pasando.
ヴィヴ・ラ・フランス！ Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 how to "loving" shrines ? I tried to shout the thu'um to the dibella shrine in the temple of dibella but no effct, it only affect the npc in the temple, i'm not in the virgin training and with no chastity devices.
mercplatypus Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 how to "loving" shrines ? I tried to shout the thu'um to the dibella shrine in the temple of dibella but no effct, it only affect the npc in the temple, i'm not in the virgin training and with no chastity devices. Activate them the exact same way you would in vanilla game.
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