toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved LE

[Ratajks]

Hi there,

I have a problem after the torch is in the animation stops and nocturnal says nothing do you know how to fix it?

 

[grundor67]

Missing MCM problem. I'm using version 3.2 on a brand new game with all requirements installed yet the MCM never shows up nor does the courier initiate after the initial shout. I checked the Interface folder and it only has the Virgin logo file in it....is that right?

 

I have used this mod in the past (pre 3.0) and never had any issues. I have since got a new high end computer and don't have access to the earlier version to check against. I tried all the steps in the Help section....(setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1) etc.but to no avail. Any ideas on what I should try? Love this mod and am hating not being able to load it.

 

Thanks,

Grundor.

 

PS: the esp shows up in the Data files list but never executes.

[VirginMarie]

Hi there,

I have a problem after the torch is in the animation stops and nocturnal says nothing do you know how to fix it?

 

Most likely Zaz Animations is not installed correctly

 

See Troubleshooting #3

 

[VirginMarie]

Missing MCM problem. I'm using version 3.2 on a brand new game with all requirements installed yet the MCM never shows up nor does the courier initiate after the initial shout. I checked the Interface folder and it only has the Virgin logo file in it....is that right? yes this is normal

 

I have used this mod in the past (pre 3.0) and never had any issues. I have since got a new high end computer and don't have access to the earlier version to check against. I tried all the steps in the Help section....(setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1) etc.but to no avail. Any ideas on what I should try? Love this mod and am hating not being able to load it.

 

Thanks,

Grundor.

 

PS: the esp shows up in the Data files list but never executes.

1. Have you used Loot or something to get your load order right?
2. In game, check that Sexlab is happy... in it's MCM, last tab, look under System Requirements. If anything is not listed as OK, you need to sort out why
3. In game, is the Device Devices MCM available? And is Zaz Animations available?

 

If those things are fine, what happens if you disable this mod, start a new game, make a save, then enable this mod. Does that allow the MCM to show up?

 

Can get me your payrus log? Just a log that covers from start skyrim, then start new game, wait for notifications to finish, then another 30 seconds. Exit to desktop. Grab the log. If you need info on how to get your papyrus log, see FAQ #12.

[grundor67]

 

Missing MCM problem. I'm using version 3.2 on a brand new game with all requirements installed yet the MCM never shows up nor does the courier initiate after the initial shout. I checked the Interface folder and it only has the Virgin logo file in it....is that right? yes this is normal

 

I have used this mod in the past (pre 3.0) and never had any issues. I have since got a new high end computer and don't have access to the earlier version to check against. I tried all the steps in the Help section....(setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1) etc.but to no avail. Any ideas on what I should try? Love this mod and am hating not being able to load it.

 

Thanks,

Grundor.

 

PS: the esp shows up in the Data files list but never executes.

1. Have you used Loot or something to get your load order right? Yes, using latest version of LOOT.
2. In game, check that Sexlab is happy... in it's MCM, last tab, look under System Requirements. If anything is not listed as OK, you need to sort out why All good there as well.
3. In game, is the Device Devices MCM available? And is Zaz Animations available? Yes to both MCM's.

 

If those things are fine, what happens if you disable this mod, start a new game, make a save, then enable this mod. Does that allow the MCM to show up?

 

Can get me your payrus log? Just a log that covers from start skyrim, then start new game, wait for notifications to finish, then another 30 seconds. Exit to desktop. Grab the log. If you need info on how to get your papyrus log, see FAQ #12.

 

Looked at the log file and did a search for "Virgin". It shows the Virgin mcm initiating but still doesn't appear in my game MCM list. Also shows that shout detection is not enabled and to reload game to retry. 

 

Overall the log looks like a hot mess, hope you can make more sense of it than me

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

Thanks for the quick reply btw...it is much appreciated.

 

Gonna try the last option now. (disable mod, new game, save..enable) Will let you know the results.

[grundor67]

Holy mackerel in a tube top! lol. I did the last option and it WORKED!! SuhWeet! I have literally worked for hours on trying to figure this thing out and for something so simple to actually work....lol....there are no words.

 

Thanks VirginMarie for the help and keep up the excellent work on this mod.

 

Now I'm off to decide on halo versus horns

[VirginMarie]

Holy mackerel in a tube top! lol. I did the last option and it WORKED!! SuhWeet! I have literally worked for hours on trying to figure this thing out and for something so simple to actually work....lol....there are no words.

 

Thanks VirginMarie for the help and keep up the excellent work on this mod.

 

Now I'm off to decide on halo versus horns

 

All it takes is one mod to have troubles initializing (which includes but is not limited to showing up in MCM), and then other mods are stuck waiting to have their turn. The last option can sometimes work because the culprit mod may not be able to try again.

 

You may find some of your mods are having trouble as you get in deeper. There's hundreds of errors and warnings in your log. Some I recognize as just normal. Some will have no impact. The ones that stood out for me as trouble:

This one is Devious Devices...
[12/13/2016 - 03:23:46PM] Cannot open store for class "zad_EffInflateableVaginalPlugScript", missing file?
[12/13/2016 - 03:23:46PM] Cannot open store for class "zad_EffInflatablePlugsAnalScript", missing file?



[12/13/2016 - 03:24:32PM] Error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdateGameTime - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
	[None].fwabilitybeeingmale.UnregisterForUpdateGameTime() - "<native>" Line ?



[12/13/2016 - 03:24:37PM] Error: File "SkyRe_Main.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
	<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
	[_DS_Hunterborn (7B003367)]._ds_hb_main.CheckForSkyRe() - "_DS_HB_MAIN.psc" Line 203

So you might play for a bit and see if you have any obvious issues, or CTDs. And if you do, look at trying to clean up the install.

 

 

Oh and Halo versus Horns? Let me know if you get the horns. I'm so sweet and innocent, I've never been able to see them. Maybe you can get me a pic?

[Beef Cheeks]

Can I ask why this update forcefully added a new light source for the player? Can't we use another mod for such a thing? Now even with the light source seemingly "turned off" with the hotkey, Skyrim still loads the light source, and I hit the maximum of 4 light sources and my light sources flicker ingame with certain camera angles.

 

I personally think it's a bit absurd to add this kind of feature. I understand it's the author's choice, and I will respect the outcome of my post, but now I am thinking of uninstalling the mod because of this. At least provide the option for two separate ESP's, one with and one without the feature. A FOMOD installation could ease the choice.

[DrVec]

I just want to say something. I Love your mod and you are doing a great great Job.

And I know that you will the mod better and better!

[FuzzyWonder]

Ok, so - ran into a reoccurring problem here.

 

I can't regain control of my character using the thum of love in movarths lair in front of nocturnals statue.

 

Nocturnal appears, my toon go into the helpless position and she does the invisible whip thing then boom no control after its done.

 

The reset player option does not work. I did this 3 times so far all ending the same deal.

 

I have only 2 parts of the thum of love if makes any differnce.

 

I seem to running into not being able to attack or change from 1st and 3rd person every now and then I'm noticing with this mod.

[VirginMarie]

Can I ask why this update forcefully added a new light source for the player?

It's not forced on you. You have two ways to not use it.

 

Can't we use another mod for such a thing?

You still can.

 

Now even with the light source seemingly "turned off" with the hotkey,

It's not seemingly turned off. It's 100% turned off.

 

Skyrim still loads the light source

Not possible. Look more closely. If you want to compare remove the halo or horns (in mcm). Since the enchant effect is on those devices, there's no way the light source could be active if you do that. But I'm telling you it's 100% off with the hotkey too.

 

, and I hit the maximum of 4 light sources and my light sources flicker ingame with certain camera angles.

 

I personally think it's a bit absurd to add this kind of feature. I understand it's the author's choice, and I will respect the outcome of my post, but now I am thinking of uninstalling the mod because of this. At least provide the option for two separate ESP's, one with and one without the feature. A FOMOD installation could ease the choice.

I've already provided two ways to turn the light source off. I won't be providing more ways. If there's a legitimate problem with turning it off, I will fix that.

 

​What about the light sources on the Anal Torch, or on the Anal Lantern? Are these also absurd? Should I provide another set of different ESP's for those too?

 

[VirginMarie]

Ok, so - ran into a reoccurring problem here.

 

I can't regain control of my character using the thum of love in movarths lair in front of nocturnals statue.

 

Nocturnal appears, my toon go into the helpless position and she does the invisible whip thing then boom no control after its done.

 

The reset player option does not work. I did this 3 times so far all ending the same deal.

 

I have only 2 parts of the thum of love if makes any differnce.

 

I seem to running into not being able to attack or change from 1st and 3rd person every now and then I'm noticing with this mod.

 

While the Thu'um of Love Triggers the scene, the problem would be unrelated to the shout. It's the scene itself. Two possibilities:

1. Are you using the freecam feature of sexlab? It's F11 by default. This will break or pause many Virgin Scenes. Usually you can just toggle it off again and its fine, but it can also cause what you have described
2. This mod is automatically turning on freecam mode for the scene (its own, not the sexlab one). Maybe your setup is susceptible to problems with freecam. Try turning it off in MCM Misc Tab

Also if you are retrying any of this, don't try once already stuck. You need to load a prior save in order to retry.

[FuzzyWonder]

 

Ok, so - ran into a reoccurring problem here.

 

I can't regain control of my character using the thum of love in movarths lair in front of nocturnals statue.

 

Nocturnal appears, my toon go into the helpless position and she does the invisible whip thing then boom no control after its done.

 

The reset player option does not work. I did this 3 times so far all ending the same deal.

 

I have only 2 parts of the thum of love if makes any differnce.

 

I seem to running into not being able to attack or change from 1st and 3rd person every now and then I'm noticing with this mod.

 

While the Thu'um of Love Triggers the scene, the problem would be unrelated to the shout. It's the scene itself. Two possibilities:

1. Are you using the freecam feature of sexlab? It's F11 by default. This will break or pause many Virgin Scenes. Usually you can just toggle it off again and its fine, but it can also cause what you have described
2. This mod is automatically turning on freecam mode for the scene (its own, not the sexlab one). Maybe your setup is susceptible to problems with freecam. Try turning it off in MCM Misc Tab

Also if you are retrying any of this, don't try once already stuck. You need to load a prior save in order to retry.

 

 

I didn't know about freecam option in sexlab I'll try to toggle it off.

 

I'm using customizable camera might be the culprit here. I toggled the camera back to vanilla and got through the scene with control again with drawing a weapon but not 3rd or 1st person changing this time.

 

So at least I got threw the scene with some control back.

 

[VirginMarie]

 

 

Ok, so - ran into a reoccurring problem here.

 

I can't regain control of my character using the thum of love in movarths lair in front of nocturnals statue.

 

Nocturnal appears, my toon go into the helpless position and she does the invisible whip thing then boom no control after its done.

 

The reset player option does not work. I did this 3 times so far all ending the same deal.

 

I have only 2 parts of the thum of love if makes any differnce.

 

I seem to running into not being able to attack or change from 1st and 3rd person every now and then I'm noticing with this mod.

 

While the Thu'um of Love Triggers the scene, the problem would be unrelated to the shout. It's the scene itself. Two possibilities:

1. Are you using the freecam feature of sexlab? It's F11 by default. This will break or pause many Virgin Scenes. Usually you can just toggle it off again and its fine, but it can also cause what you have described
2. This mod is automatically turning on freecam mode for the scene (its own, not the sexlab one). Maybe your setup is susceptible to problems with freecam. Try turning it off in MCM Misc Tab

Also if you are retrying any of this, don't try once already stuck. You need to load a prior save in order to retry.

 

 

I didn't know about freecam option in sexlab I'll try to toggle it off.

 

I'm using customizable camera might be the culprit here. I toggled the camera back to vanilla and got through the scene with control again with drawing a weapon but not 3rd or 1st person changing this time.

 

So at least I got threw the scene with some control back.

 

 

 

If you are not pressing F11 during the scene, #1 is not your issue. Don't need to do anything more.

Did you try #2? This is your most likely fix.

Make sure you are starting the scene with full control.

[FuzzyWonder]

 

 

 

Ok, so - ran into a reoccurring problem here.

 

I can't regain control of my character using the thum of love in movarths lair in front of nocturnals statue.

 

Nocturnal appears, my toon go into the helpless position and she does the invisible whip thing then boom no control after its done.

 

The reset player option does not work. I did this 3 times so far all ending the same deal.

 

I have only 2 parts of the thum of love if makes any differnce.

 

I seem to running into not being able to attack or change from 1st and 3rd person every now and then I'm noticing with this mod.

 

While the Thu'um of Love Triggers the scene, the problem would be unrelated to the shout. It's the scene itself. Two possibilities:

1. Are you using the freecam feature of sexlab? It's F11 by default. This will break or pause many Virgin Scenes. Usually you can just toggle it off again and its fine, but it can also cause what you have described
2. This mod is automatically turning on freecam mode for the scene (its own, not the sexlab one). Maybe your setup is susceptible to problems with freecam. Try turning it off in MCM Misc Tab

Also if you are retrying any of this, don't try once already stuck. You need to load a prior save in order to retry.

 

 

I didn't know about freecam option in sexlab I'll try to toggle it off.

 

I'm using customizable camera might be the culprit here. I toggled the camera back to vanilla and got through the scene with control again with drawing a weapon but not 3rd or 1st person changing this time.

 

So at least I got threw the scene with some control back.

 

 

 

If you are not pressing F11 during the scene, #1 is not your issue. Don't need to do anything more.

Did you try #2? This is your most likely fix.

Make sure you are starting the scene with full control.

 

 

Shutting off free cam in your mod off and keep sexlabs on seems to work so far. Thank You Marie.

 

Now on to my next problem. I downloaded latest bodyslide and your devices are not appearing in the drop box on upper left.

 

I read your FAQ 11 and they don't appear something with DDA does appear Devious Devices something I assume.

 

Im trying to fit your devices with 7based bombshell. I batched built the Devious Devices but that didnt work with your devices.

 

I only used Bodyslide for fallout 4. So im not sure maybe im missing something with skyrims version.

 

[mercplatypus]

 

 

 

 

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Shutting off free cam in your mod off and keep sexlabs on seems to work so far. Thank You Marie.

 

Now on to my next problem. I downloaded latest bodyslide and your devices are not appearing in the drop box on upper left.

 

I read your FAQ 11 and they don't appear something with DDA does appear Devious Devices something I assume.

 

Im trying to fit your devices with 7based bombshell. I batched built the Devious Devices but that didnt work with your devices.

 

I only used Bodyslide for fallout 4. So im not sure maybe im missing something with skyrims version.

 

 

Are you using a mod organizer.  If so could you tell us which mod organizer?

[VirginMarie]

 

 

Shutting off free cam in your mod off and keep sexlabs on seems to work so far. Thank You Marie.

Keep in mind, this does suggest your game is not very stable. Something is a little off or conflicting. Hope you don't run into more troubles of this nature.

 

Now on to my next problem. I downloaded latest bodyslide and your devices are not appearing in the drop box on upper left.

Latest bodyslide AND the bodyslide package for this mod ? (note it is a separate download from the main mod file)

 

I read your FAQ 11 and they don't appear something with DDA does appear Devious Devices something I assume.

DD stuff is not at all related.

Do you have "Shout like a Virgin" Group selected and appearing like in the pic?

 

Im trying to fit your devices with 7based bombshell. I batched built the Devious Devices but that didnt work with your devices.

 

I only used Bodyslide for fallout 4. So im not sure maybe im missing something with skyrims version.

 

 

 

[FuzzyWonder]

 

 

 

 

 

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Shutting off free cam in your mod off and keep sexlabs on seems to work so far. Thank You Marie.

 

Now on to my next problem. I downloaded latest bodyslide and your devices are not appearing in the drop box on upper left.

 

I read your FAQ 11 and they don't appear something with DDA does appear Devious Devices something I assume.

 

Im trying to fit your devices with 7based bombshell. I batched built the Devious Devices but that didnt work with your devices.

 

I only used Bodyslide for fallout 4. So im not sure maybe im missing something with skyrims version.

 

 

Are you using a mod organizer.  If so could you tell us which mod organizer?

 

I used Nexus Mod Manager to install.

 

 

[VirginMarie]

 

I used Nexus Mod Manager to install.

 

There's no complications with NMM. Did you have a look at my questions?

[FuzzyWonder]

 

 

I used Nexus Mod Manager to install.

 

There's no complications with NMM. Did you have a look at my questions?

 

 

My bad, didn't see separate tools DL files.

 

Thanks again.

[Beef Cheeks]

 

 

It's not forced on you. You have two ways to not use it.

Sorry that I sounded like an ass btw. I had a long day at work that day... I guess I could have worded it better. ._. I needed to do more testing before saying anything is what I needed to do.

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

It's not forced on you. You have two ways to not use it.

Sorry that I sounded like an ass btw. I had a long day at work that day... I guess I could have worded it better. ._. I needed to do more testing before saying anything is what I needed to do.

 

 

No worries. The concern is not lost on me. I don't know how badly it needs to be changed though.

 

I needed to look closer at it too and one thing I said is not accurate.

 

There's a light source, and there's also an "art object". The "art object" is invisible but what it does is refract light onto your butt. Without you'd have shadows there. So even when the light source is turned off by the hot key, this refraction effect remains and would have impact on other light sources. Should be very subtle but it would still be there.

 

Not using the halo or horns does completely disable both art object and light source. Unfortunately I can't remove the art object otherwise.

[atty]

So I started the shout like a virgin quest and got to the point that it says something about Nocturnal hiding in the shadows. So I do a shout and she appears after which I follow her to the Twilight Sepulcher. I can then talk to her and Cassie but nothing advances the quest. Did I do something wrong?

 

[Beef Cheeks]

 

 

Sorry that I sounded like an ass btw. I had a long day at work that day... I guess I could have worded it better. ._. I needed to do more testing before saying anything is what I needed to do.

 

 

No worries. The concern is not lost on me. I don't know how badly it needs to be changed though.

 

I needed to look closer at it too and one thing I said is not accurate.

 

There's a light source, and there's also an "art object". The "art object" is invisible but what it does is refract light onto your butt. Without you'd have shadows there. So even when the light source is turned off by the hot key, this refraction effect remains and would have impact on other light sources. Should be very subtle but it would still be there.

 

Not using the halo or horns does completely disable both art object and light source. Unfortunately I can't remove the art object otherwise.

 

Thank you for that information.

[VirginMarie]

So I started the shout like a virgin quest and got to the point that it says something about Nocturnal hiding in the shadows. So I do a shout and she appears after which I follow her to the Twilight Sepulcher. I can then talk to her and Cassie but nothing advances the quest. Did I do something wrong?

 

The shout will trigger a scene. That fact that you had no scene means most likely Zaz Animations is not installed correctly

 

See Troubleshooting #3