Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) repacked with the customary addons

[Mountaindale]

4 hours ago, tinkerbelle said:

Are you talking about the "download this file" button on the File page or about the two files for V5.1 and V6.2 posted a few days ago?   The links for the "download this file" button work, but the two links for V5.1 and V6.2 don't work.

Yes, I am talking about the V5.1 and V6.2 files.

[tinkerbelle]

23 hours ago, bnub345 said:

 

This isn't what I meant. The armor should hide the schlong. The problem is the armor won't equip on a naked actor who has a schlong, like the game thinks they are already wearing something. 

In a sense, they are wearing something ... a slot 52 schlong.  The slot the armor wants to occupy.

 

[bnub345]

1 hour ago, tinkerbelle said:

In a sense, they are wearing something ... a slot 52 schlong.  The slot the armor wants to occupy.

 

 

Not really, it blocks even vanilla outfits that only use slot 32.

[tinkerbelle]

4 minutes ago, bnub345 said:

 

Not really, it blocks even vanilla outfits that only use slot 32.

Do they have a collar, chastity items or piercings?  These are usually setup to not allow clothing

 

[CliftonJD]

On 1/22/2022 at 2:04 PM, bnub345 said:

 

All right, can you tell me which script controls the stripping? I will see if I can work it out.

in the current version pahactoralias is the script for stripping slaves using this function:

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Function Strip()
    Form the_form
    Int i = the_actor.GetNumItems()
    while i > 0
        i -= 1
        the_form = the_actor.GetNthForm(i)
        if the_actor.IsEquipped(the_form) && !the_form.HasKeyword(PAHRestraint) && !the_form.HasKeyword(SexLabNoStrip)
            the_actor.UnequipItem(the_form)
        endif
    endwhile
    SetNakedState()
    ApplyEquipmentEffects()
EndFunction

equipping is in the same script here:

Spoiler

Function EquipInventory(bool equip_collar = true)
    Form the_form
    Int i = the_actor.GetNumItems()
    while i > 0
        i -= 1
        the_form = the_actor.GetNthForm(i)
        if ((the_form as Armor) != None)
            the_actor.EquipItem(the_form, true)
        endif
        If (PAH.DD_Locks != None)
            if ((the_form.HasKeyword(PAHRestraint)) || (the_form.HasKeyword(PAH.DD_Collar)) || (the_form.HasKeyword(PAH.DD_Locks)))
                the_actor.EquipItem(the_form, true)
                if (the_form.HasKeyword(PAH.DD_Gag)) || (the_actor.WornHasKeyword(PAH.DD_Gag))
                    If (Game.GetModByName("Dawnguard.esm") != 255)
                        If ((PAH.DLC1ThrallFaction != None) && the_actor.IsInFaction(PAHPersNord))
                            If the_actor.IsInFaction(PAH.DLC1ThrallFaction)
                                the_actor.RemoveFromFaction(PAH.DLC1ThrallFaction)
                            EndIf
                        EndIf
                    EndIf
                EndIf
            endif
        else
            if the_form.HasKeyword(PAHRestraint)
                the_actor.EquipItem(the_form, true)
            endif
        endif
    endwhile

    SetNakedState()
    ApplyEquipmentEffects()
EndFunction

 

but the problem with men re-equipping usually shows as an error in the log referring to a none object

since i've been unable to determine the cause for the none object error in the logs to fix the bug, i've been forced to reword the sex script to only equip if not none:

Spoiler

Function reEquip(Actor _actor, bool _aggressive = false)
    If victimForm.Length > 1
        If _aggressive
            SexLab.UnstripActor(_actor, victimForm, _actor)
        Else
            SexLab.UnstripActor(_actor, victimForm)
        EndIf
    EndIf
    PAHActorAlias slave_alias = PAH.getSlaveAlias(_actor) as PAHActorAlias
    PAHSlave slave = PAH.GetSlave(_actor)
    If (slave_alias != None)
        slave_alias.EquipInventory()
    ElseIf ((slave_alias == None) && (slave != None))
        slave.EquipInventory()
    EndIf
    victimForm = new Form[1]
EndFunction

 

doesn't fix the function, but clears the bug from the log until a fix can be made for it

 

22 hours ago, Mountaindale said:

Yes, I am talking about the V5.1 and V6.2 files.

sorry for the confusion, i forgot about the 2 files since the posts were now moved to another page. seems the site no longer even has the 2 attachments in the previous post so that explains the errors you had. reposting it now:

Paradise_Halls 0_5_1-29886-0-5-1.7z

Paradise_Halls 0_6_2-29886-0-6-2.7z

 

On 1/22/2022 at 3:59 PM, remodel said:

1)  Trying to figure out how to use the Dwarven Slave Suit to best advantage.  When is it best to put it on a slave; when first captured or after you have the dialogue to make the slave fight? Does the suit advance sex and combat stats passively or only when punish for not fighting?   Will the suit advance combat and sex stats for any punishment?

 

Just wondering if I have this suit working right.  My first test run only showed them advancing their combat stats when punished for not fighting and I didn't notice much sex training if any while the slave was wearing it.

giving the slave suit before the dialogue is chosen has higher odds the slave accepts the order and in coming update should has better chance to force the slave to accept the order.

when the functions are working, it should advance sex training both passively during combat for fighting or for not fighting with different results for each as well as increase the training when punished for not fighting...however its been discovered that the keywords used in those functions are not looking at the correct esps. this bug is fixed in the coming update already into beta

 

On 1/22/2022 at 3:59 PM, remodel said:

2)  I was trying to get pose training up but was largely unsuccessful only got to 20.  I would have the slave pose with stand there.  When I tried to get the slave to dance nothing happened, no dancing.  Is pose worth anything, like selling value in AYGAS.  If not, I'll forget pose training.

the dialogue you're using to get those actions is not a pahe dialogue, i think those are part of the extra dialogue choices given by hsh with the default option chosen from its mcm. pahe gives slaves pose training while the slave is tied using the topic i'm going to make sure you stay here. using this dialogue with iron cuffs in your inventory should leave the slave unable to escape them, other cuffs still leave the chance to escape unless still wearing a leash collar while tied.

 

pose training does effect their value at felglow slave camp, unknown if it effects their value with aygas

On 1/22/2022 at 3:59 PM, remodel said:

Thanks for the mod, it's a centerpiece of my mod load. 

welcome

Edited January 24, 2022 by CliftonJD

[bnub345]

Ok, thanks for posting the scripts. I'm still not sure why something in slot 52 prevents something in slot 32 from being equipped. Maybe SOS interferes with it somehow. 

[CliftonJD]

1 hour ago, bnub345 said:

Ok, thanks for posting the scripts. I'm still not sure why something in slot 52 prevents something in slot 32 from being equipped. Maybe SOS interferes with it somehow. 

i get that problem randomly as in some men or maybe most, but not all, without even using sos so its more likely that a mod that interacts with sos if sos is installed is having issues with how it performs this function. could be sexlab aroused has an issue when they're aroused, but only guessing

[Mountaindale]

12 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

sorry for the confusion, i forgot about the 2 files since the posts were now moved to another page. seems the site no longer even has the 2 attachments in the previous post so that explains the errors you had. reposting it now:

Paradise_Halls 0_5_1-29886-0-5-1.7z 13.68 MB · 0 downloads

Paradise_Halls 0_6_2-29886-0-6-2.7z 14.64 MB · 0 downloads

 

Thanks. That should work. Sorry about pestering you for this...

[remodel]

I'm wondering if I messed up training my first slave for this playthrough.  I read a few posts back that "respect" caps at 65 with anger.  I'm not able to get a dialog to increase it past 65.  I tried to get her anger up but have not been able to do so.  I was thinking she might show some disrespect if she got angrier.

 

You mentioned a mind control gag from devious devices that helps with respect.  I can't seem to find it from add menu items.  Really don't know what to look for.  I did notice a dwarven helmet with gag from your dwarven suits esp.  Would this help at this point or would I need to go to a much earlier save?

 

Also, I'm unable to get "pose" to increase past 47 even though I use dialogues "tie slave" and cuffing under "you need to be punished" from the PAHE dialogues.

 

I used the dwarven suit and got her combat up to 91 and sex training up to 93.  

 

I'd like to finish her with 100 submission, 100 respect, and 100 sex.  If possible, get her pose higher. See picture below for current stats (she's a subjugated wench from immersive wenches).

 

 



 

 

 

 

[honeybadger13]

I know a gorillion people have probably asked this already, but is there a fix for the 'naked bandit/miner bandit' bug? (I am aware the miner outfit bandit bug is straight from Home Sweet Home, but I figure fixing one will fix the other since its related to NPC outfits and spawning.)  Its starting to crop up in my game and I'm realizing I may have to kill my generic slaves in order to keep my game from being buggy - which I'd rather not do since I'm not sure that'd solve the problem.

One idea I have, if it hasn't been tried or a solution hasn't been found before if to maybe make your own "Shmandit" NPC list, and when you enslave a person it just clones them into that list of "Shmandit"  that way when the game goes to spawn more bandits its not drawing from a list full of slaves, but rather an ordinary bandit, etc. (Or maybe just a "Slave" list).

The only trick would be to keep the bandit's Showracemenu appearance, which would probably be the real snag. Or maybe let the player edit the bandit's face before hand? Although from what I know of Skyrim coding PC's being able to edit NPCs via a racemenu thing is impossible. Although they did manage it in the Conan mods to get the players to access the character creation screens for NPCs.

What are some solutions/ways to mitigate it in game? I assume only slaving unique NPCs is a good start since they won't be drawn from in the pool of bandits/etc

 

Edit: Also I just wanted to say this mod is one of the best and one of my favorites, its made Skyrim so much more interesting!

Edited February 5, 2022 by honeybadger13

[kalador]

14 hours ago, remodel said:

I'm wondering if I messed up training my first slave for this playthrough.  I read a few posts back that "respect" caps at 65 with anger.  I'm not able to get a dialog to increase it past 65.  I tried to get her anger up but have not been able to do so.  I was thinking she might show some disrespect if she got angrier.

 

You mentioned a mind control gag from devious devices that helps with respect.  I can't seem to find it from add menu items.  Really don't know what to look for.  I did notice a dwarven helmet with gag from your dwarven suits esp.  Would this help at this point or would I need to go to a much earlier save?

 

Also, I'm unable to get "pose" to increase past 47 even though I use dialogues "tie slave" and cuffing under "you need to be punished" from the PAHE dialogues.

 

I used the dwarven suit and got her combat up to 91 and sex training up to 93.  

 

I'd like to finish her with 100 submission, 100 respect, and 100 sex.  If possible, get her pose higher. See picture below for current stats (she's a subjugated wench from immersive wenches).

 

 

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My suggestion would be to use the restraints at all times when they are not following you.  Submission and Posing both increase while the slave is restrained.  I tend to leave my slaves restrained at all times until I get them trained.

[remodel]

22 minutes ago, kalador said:

My suggestion would be to use the restraints at all times when they are not following you.  Submission and Posing both increase while the slave is restrained.  I tend to leave my slaves restrained at all times until I get them trained.

Which dialog do you use, "tie slave" or cuffing under "you need to be punished"?

[tinkerbelle]

5 hours ago, remodel said:

Which dialog do you use, "tie slave" or cuffing under "you need to be punished"?

The dialogue is "I'm going to tie you up" and use the hardest option.  I believe iron wrist and ankle cuffs meet the hardest option.

 

[remodel]

Well, I went back to an earlier save and started retraining the slave again.  This locking respect at 65 with anger seems to be a change from previous versions and training is slower.  I didn't read the change log.  I did get one whipping in without angering her; submission and pose shot up about 20 points.  I now save before any punishment to make sure I get the desired effect.

 

A mind control gag from devious devices was mentioned on some update notes that helps with respect. What is the device I should be looking for? 

 

Wish some of these devices could be added to "Laura's Bondage Shop".  I bought the keys for the Dwarven Suit from there. 

[CliftonJD]

4 hours ago, remodel said:

Well, I went back to an earlier save and started retraining the slave again.  This locking respect at 65 with anger seems to be a change from previous versions and training is slower.

its a form of learning for the slave so we don't get stuck with fully trained slaves acting like an ass

4 hours ago, remodel said:

A mind control gag from devious devices was mentioned on some update notes that helps with respect. What is the device I should be looking for? 

any of the devious devices series gags should work with this feature, should improve respect training

4 hours ago, remodel said:

Wish some of these devices could be added to "Laura's Bondage Shop".  I bought the keys for the Dwarven Suit from there. 

ok, i'll look into that for next update

[remodel]

10 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

any of the devious devices series gags should work with this feature, should improve respect training

Thanks for this information.  I'll get one from Laura's Bondage Shop.

 

10 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

ok, i'll look into that for next update

That will be great!

 

Again, a super mod!

[Watson152]

So i got animaitions and everything appears to be working but the slave info spell appears to have bugged out

 

[CliftonJD]

9 hours ago, Watson152 said:

So i got animaitions and everything appears to be working but the slave info spell appears to have bugged out

 

sorry no idea what would cause that, can try checking the log for any issues if you send a papyrus log

[KnightAconite]

Is there any way to teleport all active slaves to you instead of doing it one-by-one, exiting the menu each time?

Also, I see options for trolls to be enslaved, and yet I am unable to. Am I misunderstanding?

Edited February 8, 2022 by KnightAconite
second question

[CliftonJD]

1 hour ago, KnightAconite said:

Is there any way to teleport all active slaves to you instead of doing it one-by-one, exiting the menu each time?

Also, I see options for trolls to be enslaved, and yet I am unable to. Am I misunderstanding?

no mass tp spell or otherwise and trolls still need their health down to threshold before they can be enslaved

[KnightAconite]

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

no mass tp spell or otherwise and trolls still need their health down to threshold before they can be enslaved

Alright, good to know.
Also, despite not telling my slaves to enter combat; they very often do, and that often ends with NPCs getting agro'd on them and eternally fighting each other. Is there any way to prevent this?

[CliftonJD]

29 minutes ago, KnightAconite said:

Alright, good to know.
Also, despite not telling my slaves to enter combat; they very often do, and that often ends with NPCs getting agro'd on them and eternally fighting each other. Is there any way to prevent this?

interesting, never heard of that type of bug. for this to take place i'm guessing that means your follower or your wife have already agro'ed and the slaves are coming to defend your follower or your wife -- slaves are allied to your follower and your wife and your housecarl

[wallmeister22601]

On 2/4/2022 at 4:27 PM, remodel said:

I'm wondering if I messed up training my first slave for this playthrough.  I read a few posts back that "respect" caps at 65 with anger.  I'm not able to get a dialog to increase it past 65.  I tried to get her anger up but have not been able to do so.  I was thinking she might show some disrespect if she got angrier.

 

You mentioned a mind control gag from devious devices that helps with respect.  I can't seem to find it from add menu items.  Really don't know what to look for.  I did notice a dwarven helmet with gag from your dwarven suits esp.  Would this help at this point or would I need to go to a much earlier save?

 

Also, I'm unable to get "pose" to increase past 47 even though I use dialogues "tie slave" and cuffing under "you need to be punished" from the PAHE dialogues.

 

I used the dwarven suit and got her combat up to 91 and sex training up to 93.  

 

I'd like to finish her with 100 submission, 100 respect, and 100 sex.  If possible, get her pose higher. See picture below for current stats (she's a subjugated wench from immersive wenches).

 

 

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The highest I can normally get respect to is 95, unless I get the respect bug (where you continue to get the "I thought I told you to address me properly" continuously) then it will reach 100.
I normally train the slave with submission first by whipping.
When they reach 40 submission I tell them to wear an ebonite gag from Laura's Bondage shop.
I then tell them that they will address me properly.
Whip a few time and speak to them to see if the I told you to address me properly dialogue appears.
If it does I tell them they are going to punished, whip a few times and repeat the process. 
If the dialogue to address properly doesn't appear still whip them a few times and speak to them again. 

[CliftonJD]

5 hours ago, wallmeister22601 said:

I normally train the slave with submission first by whipping.
When they reach 40 submission I tell them to wear an ebonite gag from Laura's Bondage shop.

devious gags have special mind control option to start respect training freshly captured slaves - if you're gagging them with dd gag anyway, no need to wait til they reach 40 submission 

[KnightAconite]

19 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

interesting, never heard of that type of bug. for this to take place i'm guessing that means your follower or your wife have already agro'ed and the slaves are coming to defend your follower or your wife -- slaves are allied to your follower and your wife and your housecarl

I haven't made any followers follow me yet, so I doubt that's the issue. Funny I have one you've never seen though!

Edited February 9, 2022 by KnightAconite
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