Grey Cloud Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 nanomori, If you are tired of messing around with your load order then give up modding Skyrim. You cannot have a modded Skyrim without conflicts/problems/glitches etc. Read what the people are saying in this thread and all the other mod threads on LL: problems - frustration - learning curve - compromise - resignation. If your installation worked fine before you installed AiO-HDT-AP then the solution is simple: uninstall it. Then either re-install only those parts that you feel you must have or find another mod or mods which can provide the same functions. I don't mean to sound negative or insulting. I guess the point I am trying to make is that it is unreasonable to expect a mod to fit seamlessly (no pun intended) into your installation. All the more so when your installation has been built up on an ad hoc basis over a period of time (I plead guilty to this one).
sophiextime Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Hi all. I am a little stuck or confused, maybe both. I have a UNP nody and SG female skin. i also have SOS installed as well as all beast/critter mods. i have HDT extensions and bodyslide and the right skeleton. I use Mod Organizer too. So.. how do i get a pussy that opens like in the pics? I installed everything with the FOMOD. What exactly is a UNP special? is this a different version than the general UNP body i got off Nexus? Because once i loaded the game nothing appears to have changed during sex. i still just have a static body skin pussy texture, nothing animating or opening. Was i supposed to chose UNP special in the installer? Is there soemthing i am supposed to be selecting or adjusting in Bodyslide? I just was hoping for a animated pussy on my UNP body. Could someone be really kind and give me a simple list in order of instructions to help me please? x Thank you so much, Sophie.
heroko Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 nanomori, If you are tired of messing around with your load order then give up modding Skyrim. You cannot have a modded Skyrim without conflicts/problems/glitches etc. Read what the people are saying in this thread and all the other mod threads on LL: problems - frustration - learning curve - compromise - resignation. If your installation worked fine before you installed AiO-HDT-AP then the solution is simple: uninstall it. Then either re-install only those parts that you feel you must have or find another mod or mods which can provide the same functions. I don't mean to sound negative or insulting. I guess the point I am trying to make is that it is unreasonable to expect a mod to fit seamlessly (no pun intended) into your installation. All the more so when your installation has been built up on an ad hoc basis over a period of time (I plead guilty to this one). well i reinstalled it yesterday and added stuff for it to work so it should work but i just cant seem to understand why the facetexturs doesnt match when they are oviusly provided by this mod i checked if they where overwriting the bijin mod and they do there are no facetextures that i could see that didnt get overwriten soo i thougth that if everything is provided by this mode shouldnt it then match and when the hairtextures where an mess then the face was perfect
heroko Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Hi all. I am a little stuck or confused, maybe both. I have a UNP nody and SG female skin. i also have SOS installed as well as all beast/critter mods. i have HDT extensions and bodyslide and the right skeleton. I use Mod Organizer too. So.. how do i get a pussy that opens like in the pics? I installed everything with the FOMOD. What exactly is a UNP special? is this a different version than the general UNP body i got off Nexus? Because once i loaded the game nothing appears to have changed during sex. i still just have a static body skin pussy texture, nothing animating or opening. Was i supposed to chose UNP special in the installer? Is there soemthing i am supposed to be selecting or adjusting in Bodyslide? I just was hoping for a animated pussy on my UNP body. Could someone be really kind and give me a simple list in order of instructions to help me please? x Thank you so much, Sophie. well i belive u need to chose the unp in the installer then chose which unp body ur useing and after that run fins then the bodyslider not really sure about the bodyslider tho
heroko Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 ohh i think i figured it out i just need to stop using bijin and use the replacer at the end of the installer insteadand aparently thats the reason i had the blue hair cuse it doesnt seem to pick up on my hair mod's
heroko Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 finaly this is the hair mod u need for that npc replacer https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B5ovhttJqGRWZUZsODlENTk1bGs&export=download
tim3flies Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Hi all, First off let me say that this mod looks fantastic. My problem is that I don"t use either NMM nor MO; I manually install all my mods and I have not figured out how to install this mod without using either manager. I have downloaded bodyslide (not installed yet), SOS full, RaceMenu, HDT hair mod (30 hairs), HDT physics, FNIS, SG Female Renewal textures, XPMSE, and Bounce & Jiggles are all installed. I an also using the 7B Bombshell body mod. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
heroko Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Hi all, First off let me say that this mod looks fantastic. My problem is that I don"t use either NMM nor MO; I manually install all my mods and I have not figured out how to install this mod without using either manager. I have downloaded bodyslide (not installed yet), SOS full, RaceMenu, HDT hair mod (30 hairs), HDT physics, FNIS, SG Female Renewal textures, XPMSE, and Bounce & Jiggles are all installed. I an also using the 7B Bombshell body mod. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. i belive u should get MO since its an formod instaler soo the instalation metode is scripted or something like that
tim3flies Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Hi all, First off let me say that this mod looks fantastic. My problem is that I don"t use either NMM nor MO; I manually install all my mods and I have not figured out how to install this mod without using either manager. I have downloaded bodyslide (not installed yet), SOS full, RaceMenu, HDT hair mod (30 hairs), HDT physics, FNIS, SG Female Renewal textures, XPMSE, and Bounce & Jiggles are all installed. I an also using the 7B Bombshell body mod. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. i belive u should get MO since its an formod instaler soo the instalation metode is scripted or something like that Don't care much for MO as I don't want it controlling my other mods (in a virtual space). I'm also not crazy about using NMM. What about using Wrye Bash or another manager?
heroko Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Hi all, First off let me say that this mod looks fantastic. My problem is that I don"t use either NMM nor MO; I manually install all my mods and I have not figured out how to install this mod without using either manager. I have downloaded bodyslide (not installed yet), SOS full, RaceMenu, HDT hair mod (30 hairs), HDT physics, FNIS, SG Female Renewal textures, XPMSE, and Bounce & Jiggles are all installed. I an also using the 7B Bombshell body mod. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. i belive u should get MO since its an formod instaler soo the instalation metode is scripted or something like that Don't care much for MO as I don't want it controlling my other mods (in a virtual space). I'm also not crazy about using NMM. What about using Wrye Bash or another manager? well idk how that works but it's probly working too
evans3rd Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 Hi all, First off let me say that this mod looks fantastic. My problem is that I don"t use either NMM nor MO; I manually install all my mods and I have not figured out how to install this mod without using either manager. I have downloaded bodyslide (not installed yet), SOS full, RaceMenu, HDT hair mod (30 hairs), HDT physics, FNIS, SG Female Renewal textures, XPMSE, and Bounce & Jiggles are all installed. I an also using the 7B Bombshell body mod. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. This is an install of existing mods. All the parts of this mod can be found separately. It includes two bodies that have an animated pussy, One based on CBBE body and the other is based on UUNP. Either can be found and downloaded in its original mod file. Google "animated pussy skyrim" I don't know if they are FOMOD installs too but you can give them a try.
Grey Cloud Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 evans3rd, Headless guardsmen spotted in Roriksted. I have been there at least twice in this game and never had any problems with the guards, yet now after a good week or more of gaming and not seeing any headless guards anywhere..... There again, I've still not seen any female guards either. One of my favourite women in all of Skyrim was the Whiterun guard who used to stand in the corner between Acadia's and Belethor's. Worra gal. I was wrong about me being under 200 mods - I've still got over 200. I'm down to 150-odd active plug-ins. I had similar problems with CTDs on that road near Whiterun. The stretch between the meadery and the stables was a nightmare. No way I could run and walking was done with fingers crossed, quick-saving every 10 yards. Used to get the CTDs in other places but none as 100% cast-iron guaranteed as that road. I was fast travelling and using the carriage service just to lessen the risk of CTDs. Not had a problem anywhere this last week or so (famous last words again). I've been running all over the place, along roads and across country - Solitude to Markath; Morphal to Riften etc. Not had one problem (note to self: shut up you fool). * Today's comedy moment: I'm in a Stormcloak camp stood waiting for an animation to beigin. Another 'cloak walks up and, in his best macho voice, informs me that even if an entire legion showed up he would fight them himself. He turned away and walked straight into his naked comrade. The muppet ruined the animation. * I'm like a big kid, if I see a flight of stairs I have to jump down them. Came unstuck in Markath a while ago when I completely misjudged where the steps were and fell the full height of the town - splat. Speaking of Markath, if there was a gaming award for the most pointless piece of sandboxing, it would have to go to those three Thalmor in the keep who just walk the length of that carpet.
evans3rd Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 ohh i think i figured it out i just need to stop using bijin and use the replacer at the end of the installer instead and aparently thats the reason i had the blue hair cuse it doesnt seem to pick up on my hair mod's If your using other NPC face mods like BTRH Waifu, rk followers, or the JH NPC mod with the Bijin mods then that would explain why your having hair and face issues. They are trying to overwrite the same NPC's where the mods overlap each other. Pick one and turn the others off. I'd go to the OP of each mod and take a look at the screen shots to decide which one to keep. If you look at the list of NPC changes each mod makes you'll see that some of the same NPC are changed by two or more of these mods. I wouldn't be surprised to see that all four of them change Elsif. Everybody has their own idea of what the young widowed queen should look like. She didn't intend for everything in this install to be used at the same time. You have to chose one body or the other, one texture or another, one NPC replacer or another, one Serana or the other, etc.. In some cases it's possible to compromise and have more than one if you can fix the conflicts. The three separate Bijin mods in this install (not the All-In-One Bijin) have separate files that can be turned off so you can give up Bijin's version of the NPC for say the BTRH version and have the added NPC changes that BTRH makes to NPC's that Bijin doesn’t change. And if you can follow that poorly worded complex explanation I'm sure you can do it. LOL
evans3rd Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 GreyCloud - Even with only 73 mods I've come to the conclusion it's always going to be something. Missing NPC's is one of those game killers for me though. Missing heads on guards might not be if I didn't have to look at them much. I don't seem to get comedy moments like you describe. Maybe I need to install more mods? LOL Those road crashes can be a problem. I tried to use an elf village mod that was a ways SW of Riverwood but with it installed I couldn't get much past the bridge out of town. That was still a long ways from the village. Coming at it from the west I was able to get within view of the village but I never got close to it. In the early days I had a lot of crashes trying to go west out of Riverwood. There seems to be something about that area. Between Riverwood and Whiterun has never been a problem for me though. I have a house on the river up the road from the brewery that I spend almost as much time at as Breesehome. If it's a short walk when I leave home I generally run through the area instead of fast traveling. I know there are players that never use fast travel and I can almost understand why. There are areas in Skyrim I like to run through instead. That stretch of road is where I do a lot of testing because I can usually find a dragon and there are always wolves and that bear across the river. The Thalmor - I think we have all had that game we played out. The missions where all done, the war was over, the journal is empty, and all you can seem to find are odd jobs to do. We start adding mods like the huge world Valkore or whatever it's called. We get board and start looking for things to do. I decided it was time for the Dragonborn to eradicate the dreaded Thalmor. It occurred to me while hunting them down that many of them, the three you mention in particular, are there just to show a Thalmor presence in Skyrim. They don't really play a big part in the game or do anything. Ancano at the Mage guild and the bitch in the embassy are all I can think of that play a part. They have an embassy and a fort where they keep a prisoner you can pick up a mission for. Other than that they escort prisoners on the road. You can find them hanging out around Talos shrines waiting to jump Talos worshipers. And, I'm trying to think of where I found a few hiding but can't think of any. There aren't many. I always clear out the embassy after the party that Delphine sends you to. Something about their arrogance I just can't let them get away with, always threatening the Dragonborn. I'm the PC fool. In your sprite filled world that makes me God. If I die, I'm not just resurrected, I come back in time before I was killed. LOL I play space sims a lot. There was one that had four different space fairing races in it. I exterminated an entire species over the same kind of arrogance. It took me a very long time and cost me every recourse my empire had acquired but it felt good to kill that last ship. LMAO!!!
evans3rd Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 Hi all. I am a little stuck or confused, maybe both. I have a UNP nody and SG female skin. i also have SOS installed as well as all beast/critter mods. i have HDT extensions and bodyslide and the right skeleton. I use Mod Organizer too. So.. how do i get a pussy that opens like in the pics? I installed everything with the FOMOD. What exactly is a UNP special? is this a different version than the general UNP body i got off Nexus? Because once i loaded the game nothing appears to have changed during sex. i still just have a static body skin pussy texture, nothing animating or opening. Was i supposed to chose UNP special in the installer? Is there soemthing i am supposed to be selecting or adjusting in Bodyslide? I just was hoping for a animated pussy on my UNP body. Could someone be really kind and give me a simple list in order of instructions to help me please? x Thank you so much, Sophie. It's hard to say. It is an HDT issue but there are a lot of reasons it might not be working. Even if it is working it doesn’t work 100% of the time. It helps if you have the vagina lined up with the hands or phallus but usually anywhere near it will open the vagina. I found that placing the body mod near last in my load order did help with a few things. There is a lot of recent talk in this thread about the HDT issues. Bodies and UNP special - I haven't used UNP in a long time but my tip with this install is that if you're not sure than don't install it. Just pic the body that closely matches your original body mod install. You don't need to run bodylide to make the pussy work. Edit; I'm installing this mod now and I noticed that the UNP body is the "Special" one you were asking about so, yes, select that one. It won't work without it.
evans3rd Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 GReyCloud - I was thinking about your comment about how to build a working setup; install one mod, test for days in every way that is relative, and everything that isn't. If confident that all is in order you can then add the next mod. I've done that a lot. Even now with all that experience, only 73 mods, and knowing what problems to expect I load in stages. I get the CBBE body and armors installed, load all my companions, and start a PC. I play till I can pick up Vilja and Merura in the Banneredmare, for the different body size and types, then I test cloths and armor, and test, and fix, and test, and fix, and… I can skip all that if I load everything body related with a standard as I have done with this install. The COS body is real close to the CBBE Curvy I just happen to be using this time. A bit of luck there. No need to run BodySlide. Once satisfied that everything works and fits it's homes, UFO (tweaks like that), and animations (none SexLab), skeletons, HDT, FNIS, etc.. This usually goes easy and works as expected having used and tested them already. I don't bother gathering up my companions yet. Those can be fixed as I pick them up when I start a new PC and start playing, if there are problems with them. Now come immersion; birds, lanterns, weather, night sky, NPC mods, bottles, gems, windows, rain, snow, leaves, water, ENB, all that stuff that I'm running almost none of right now. LOL This is where the loading slows down a lot. Even having used this stuff before I still tend to load one at a time and test. There are a few that I have used for a long time that I don't worry too much about but most get full attention and need it to work right. And finally SexLab. This time that has actually proven to be a relatively easy stage but it's not my first time either. That doesn't mean it has been easy, just easier than expected. LOL I worked on a setup for nearly a month before my first post here. About a week later I threw the whole thing out and started over. My CK hasn't worked since. It didn't take long to make a new setup but I wasn't testing either. I was trying to replicate what I had just thrown out without all those hair mods I found in the core install when I thought I had started fresh. I should have looked before I put the install disk in but I just assumed install would not be an option if it was already installed. I've always had a bad habit of trying to save time with assumptions. It nearly always cost me more time in the long run too. That one sure did. It was running perfect when I decided to make a copy of my Skyrim folder. I messed it all up when I tried to copy my load order to post it here and sorted it alphabetically. So, I loaded the saved folder. It hasn't been the same since. My last three attempts to build a stable install have started with that copy but after a few hours it becomes unstable for reasons I can't find. I can turn it all off and it is still unstable so it doesn’t seem to be a mod issue. I really hate it when that happens. I'm wondering if using a copy and placing it in the Steam directory isn't the problem. I know Steam dose a bunch of stuff to that install but IDK what exactly. The problem is that I find myself grasping at straws and the only thing that seems prudent is to start from scratch again. Edit: and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... Sigh! I'm having more fun coming here and reading ATM. You guys are making this madness fun. Right now I'd rather think on other problems that I might be able to actually fix. LOL
heroko Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 ohh i think i figured it out i just need to stop using bijin and use the replacer at the end of the installer instead and aparently thats the reason i had the blue hair cuse it doesnt seem to pick up on my hair mod's If your using other NPC face mods like BTRH Waifu, rk followers, or the JH NPC mod with the Bijin mods then that would explain why your having hair and face issues. They are trying to overwrite the same NPC's where the mods overlap each other. Pick one and turn the others off. I'd go to the OP of each mod and take a look at the screen shots to decide which one to keep. If you look at the list of NPC changes each mod makes you'll see that some of the same NPC are changed by two or more of these mods. I wouldn't be surprised to see that all four of them change Elsif. Everybody has their own idea of what the young widowed queen should look like. She didn't intend for everything in this install to be used at the same time. You have to chose one body or the other, one texture or another, one NPC replacer or another, one Serana or the other, etc.. In some cases it's possible to compromise and have more than one if you can fix the conflicts. The three separate Bijin mods in this install (not the All-In-One Bijin) have separate files that can be turned off so you can give up Bijin's version of the NPC for say the BTRH version and have the added NPC changes that BTRH makes to NPC's that Bijin doesn’t change. And if you can follow that poorly worded complex explanation I'm sure you can do it. LOL hehe yea suddenly i realised what i had been trying and then it was all good
HarukaYuki Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 I've got un-textured labia with my mod, and I'm not sure what I've done wrong, I'm using the skins that were included in the installer, and they worked fine before, but after re-installing everything, now they're not.. used the same texture options too CBBE Curvy/fair.. Is there a way to fix this, or should I just re-install the mod again? A fresh install mostly fixed it, when I loaded up the character again, they were black/missing texture, but a quick showracemenu loaded them.. good enough
evans3rd Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 Vyxenne - Update on my comments about running a second Skyrim in a separate directory. It doesn’t work with FNIS anymore. I used to get a warning about the directory but it worked. Now it only works on one of the six mods that it should. I looked for a workaround but anybody that inquires about running Skyrim outside the Steam directory is accused of piracy and the thread is closed. I don't think they are flexible on this. Oh well! It was a last ditch effort anyway. I'm just going to have to start from scratch… again.
Grey Cloud Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 Vyxenne - Update on my comments about running a second Skyrim in a separate directory. It doesn’t work with FNIS anymore. I used to get a warning about the directory but it worked. Now it only works on one of the six mods that it should. I looked for a workaround but anybody that inquires about running Skyrim outside the Steam directory is accused of piracy and the thread is closed. I don't think they are flexible on this. Oh well! It was a last ditch effort anyway. I'm just going to have to start from scratch… again. Whenever I run FNIS I get the one warning that Skyrim is being run from a non-Steam location - it's my fucking machine, I'll install things where I want them. I play from a pirate copy though I have a legit copy and a Steam account. I wont have anything to do with Steam. They are just a parasite to me. Gaming has done alright without them so why do we suddenly need some capitalist tossers with direct access to our computers? My other gaming choice is RTS and I gave up on the Total War series because they went Steam only. I will quite happily do the same with Bethesda games which I don't rate that highly anyway (I'm a graduate of the Black Isle AD&D school). I was actually talking about troubleshooting but as for install order, after the patches, SKSE and other techie-type stuff I install anything which is 'generic' to playing Skyrim such as weather, loot, perks, creatures, Sexlab etc. Then the NPCs (civvies, guards, bandits etc) - overhauls/makeovers. Last is the quest-type mods I will be using - I usually install them all but only have 2 or 3 activated in NMM. I've more or less given up on custom followers - they all talk too much. In fact I've pretty much given up on followers full stop. Things are much more civilised when it's just your character travellig around. Follower: 'I've got your back' Me: 'No, you've got your fat arse blocking the fucking doorway yet again'.
evans3rd Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 "They are just a parasite to me. Gaming has done alright without them so why do we suddenly need some capitalist tossers with direct access to our computers?" - I've always felt the same way. I don't care to advertise my stats or accomplishments, there is no competition in this game, if that's what I want I'll play COD or Battlefield (probably have to find something new there though LOL). The point is there is no reason it shouldn't come on a disk and leave it at that. I play Skyrim and KSP, both Steam, but I can run KSP without Steam and I do. "(I'm a graduate of the Black Isle AD&D school)." - I started out way back with the board games. It was a lot of fun playing with real people but no one will put in the effort for such games anymore. If you're not online you're left out. I've played a lot of AD&D games. Diablo was good too. I didn't go into a lot of detail and totally ignored SKSE, SkyUI, etc. First is MO, then Dawnguard and the patches. Tools and utilities are next. From there I can start building the basics; body, armor, cloths, followers, etc.. That’s a very practiced step so it goes well and fast if I use the same body everywhere. I tend to make a copy of the Skyrim folder here before attempting to add all the emersion stuff. It gets slow and tricky from her on. LOL I like Vilja for a companion. I usually let her chatter but you can turn her off. Blocking the way can be a pain in the ass. "Yes, dear. Is there anything I can do for you?" You can GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY!!! She does have a move aside command though and that is a big plus for any companion. I do really like it when she starts humming on the trail. I don't fast travel as much as I should because of it. "Whenever I run FNIS I get the one warning that Skyrim is being run from a non-Steam location - it's my fucking machine, I'll install things where I want them. I play from a pirate copy though I have a legit copy and a Steam account." - That is what I was trying to do. It's galling to be fingered as a pirate when I have paid and why can't I play my none on line game in isolation? But, what you are saying is that you can run a "pirate" copy? I'm running the same things in both installs. The Steam one runs NFIS on six mods but the other one only runs on one mod (with the warning). I've checked all the directory paths and it now places the files in the right overwrite folder and everything but it's just the one mod that it will runs for now. I might play with it a bit more now that you have given me hope that it can work but I'm just about resolved to starting from scratch again. Edit: FNIS does work outside of Steam. MO is kind of odd. There seems to be about three ways to install anything and that gets confusing. I went up to FNIS and followed directions and what do you know, it works. LOL You have to link it in the right side window/.esp list. I don't have to do it there in the Steam install though. But, maybe that's the problem, I didn't.
Grey Cloud Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 "They are just a parasite to me. Gaming has done alright without them so why do we suddenly need some capitalist tossers with direct access to our computers?" - I've always felt the same way. I don't care to advertise my stats or accomplishments, there is no competition in this game, if that's what I want I'll play COD or Battlefield (probably have to find something new there though LOL). The point is there is no reason it shouldn't come on a disk and leave it at that. I play Skyrim and KSP, both Steam, but I can run KSP without Steam and I do. "(I'm a graduate of the Black Isle AD&D school)." - I started out way back with the board games. It was a lot of fun playing with real people but no one will put in the effort for such games anymore. If you're not online you're left out. I've played a lot of AD&D games. Diablo was good too. I didn't go into a lot of detail and totally ignored SKSE, SkyUI, etc. First is MO, then Dawnguard and the patches. Tools and utilities are next. From there I can start building the basics; body, armor, cloths, followers, etc.. That’s a very practiced step so it goes well and fast if I use the same body everywhere. I tend to make a copy of the Skyrim folder here before attempting to add all the emersion stuff. It gets slow and tricky from her on. LOL I like Vilja for a companion. I usually let her chatter but you can turn her off. Blocking the way can be a pain in the ass. "Yes, dear. Is there anything I can do for you?" You can GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY!!! She does have a move aside command though and that is a big plus for any companion. I do really like it when she starts humming on the trail. I don't fast travel as much as I should because of it. "Whenever I run FNIS I get the one warning that Skyrim is being run from a non-Steam location - it's my fucking machine, I'll install things where I want them. I play from a pirate copy though I have a legit copy and a Steam account." - That is what I was trying to do. It's galling to be fingered as a pirate when I have paid and why can't I play my none on line game in isolation? But, what you are saying is that you can run a "pirate" copy? I'm running the same things in both installs. The Steam one runs NFIS on six mods but the other one only runs on one mod (with the warning). I've checked all the directory paths and it now places the files in the right overwrite folder and everything but it's just the one mod that it will runs for now. I might play with it a bit more now that you have given me hope that it can work but I'm just about resolved to starting from scratch again. Just to be clear, I only have the pirate copy installed. I installed and ran the Steam version, opened an account etc then uninstalled everything Steam related. There would be nothing to stop me installing another instance of the pirate copy in a different folder or on another drive. I must confess that I did enjoy Vilja's humming along with that accent. 'Don't kill heem'. She was always about 5 seconds too late with that one though. I've just travelled overland from Markath to Whiterun via Falkreath. My intention was to run all the way and the first leg from Markath to the bridge where you turn East went fine. Once across the bridge I was attacked by a dreugh (plus mudcrab), then a wolf , a bear, a spider, goblins, more wolves, another bear, an Ancient Spriggan Mat- or Patriach, twice, (didn't stay around to find out which), Thalmor Justiciar, Necromage and civvie sidekick using her fists, more wolves etc etc. Couldn't go more than 100 yards without someone or something wanting a piece of my arse. Completely ruined the experience. I was fuming by the time I got to Whiterun gate and judging by the look on her face so was Scylla. 'If looks could kill' - cheered me up. All I want to do lately is run, climb, jump and swim. Julie Andrews eat your heart out... 'The hills are alive with the sound of music...' Earlier today I got hold of a circlet of waterbreathing. Not had chance to try out the underwater world yet as it's been dark whenever I've been near any suitable water.
Vyxenne Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Vixenne - "I would like to change to UNP or UNP Skinny (HDT, of course) but at this point I don't think I could convert all of my wardrobe to another variant due to lack of bodyslide files. Plus, I'm leery of fixing something that ain't broke- I've got all this running with 231 plugins, ENB, Climates of Tamriel etc. etc. and I'm afraid to rock the boat too much." - Words of wisdom from an experienced modder. Don't fix what isn't broken. BTW, 231? I've seen your videos but I'm more impressed than ever now. If you have the hard drive space you can run a separate copy of Skyrim. I find this useful for experimenting when I don't want to take a chance on messing up my setup. I don't have a bleeding-edge system- it's an i5 3570k overclocked to 4.2GHz, only 8GB of DDR3, GTX970 4GB (3.5 usable), Windows on one SSD and games on another SSD, with all other stuff on 2 HDDs, so yes, I have room for another copy of Skyrim, but not on an SSD. So although I normally get 50-60 fps now, that could drop to 20 if I ran all of this from a normal HDD. I do have occasions where Skyrim won't load- it grinds away for a while after I hit Continue or Load, showing one of the many interactable loading screens, then just drops to desktop at the end. When it does that, loading a new-character save that I keep around just for that purpose always works, then after I let that settle down for a couple of minutes, I can go ahead and load my latest save from there. Most of the time, though, Skyrim just Continues or Loads just fine. I really keep meaning to sit down and spend an afternoon merging most of my 'wearables' (clothing/jewelry/armor) mods to reduce plugin counts, but I've never done that before and again, I'm skeert. Meanwhile, I review my mods list occasionally and delete those I haven't actually used for a while. Since I posted my plugin count I removed one, so my plugin count is now down to 230. I try to steer clear of mods whose description pages and/or support threads are just chock-full of incompatibilities and/or crash reports, so maybe part of my success is due more to the mods that are NOT in my load order than to the ones that are. Also, I run Generate FNIS For Users after any animation mod, or even suspected animation mod, and I run LOOT after any change at all to my mod list, including 'harmless' updates. Here's my load order in case it says anything that might help anyone: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp 3 3 Dawnguard.esm 4 4 Falskaar.esm 5 5 Wyrmstooth.esp 6 6 Dawnguard - Textures.esm 7 7 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp 8 8 HearthFires.esm 9 9 HearthFires - Textures.esm 10 a Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp 11 b Dragonborn.esm 12 c Dragonborn - Textures.esm 13 d Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 14 e SharedSeranaDialogue.esm 15 f FoxHome_X.esm 16 10 Dragon Break.esm 17 11 0db2SECOND.esm 18 12 hdtHighHeel.esm 19 13 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 20 14 AOM.esm 21 15 ApachiiHair.esm 22 16 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 23 17 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 24 18 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 25 19 RaceCompatibility.esm 26 1a PubicMeshColorRE.esm 27 1b Heels Sound.esm 28 1c EFFCore.esm 29 1d SexLab.esm 30 1e SexLabAroused.esm 31 1f HighResTexturePack01.esp 32 20 HighResTexturePack02.esp 33 21 HighResTexturePack03.esp 34 22 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 35 23 AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp 36 24 MashupUNP.esp 37 25 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 38 26 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp 39 27 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 40 28 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 41 29 ELFX - Dawnguard.esp 42 2a ELFX - Dragonborn.esp 43 2b Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp 44 2c RealisticWaterTwo.esp 45 2d ELFXEnhancer.esp 46 2e AutoHarvest2.esp 47 2f AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp 48 30 RealShelter.esp 49 31 RBB - Snowy New Lands Merge.esp 50 32 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp 51 33 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 52 34 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 53 35 Dragon Falls Manor.esp 54 36 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 55 37 AsharaSkyrimCharacterPresetsReplacer.esp 56 38 TavernClothes-MTM.esp 57 39 Get Out Of My Way.esp 58 3a Draconic Bloodline.esp 59 3b Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp 60 3c DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp 61 3d Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 62 3e FISS.esp 63 3f PATCHDragon Break.esp 64 40 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 65 41 Marriable Serana.esp 66 42 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 67 43 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 68 44 SOS - Shop.esp 69 45 Gwelda Armor Pack.esp 70 46 Luxury Collection.esp 71 47 Luxury Collection Vendor.esp 72 48 FNISspells.esp 73 49 No Hood.esp 74 4a CharGen ECE Morphs.esp 75 4b BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp 76 4c kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp 77 4d BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 78 4e MeridaHair.esp 79 4f Katarina Outfit - UNPB BBP.esp 80 50 Mini Vamps.esp 81 51 Huntress.esp 82 52 VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp 83 53 Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp 84 54 FullBootForKKSA.esp 85 55 NailsUNP.esp 86 56 NewmillerHighHeelsBlck.esp 87 57 StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp 88 58 HDTEarring.esp 89 59 DAO Morrigan's Robes.esp 90 5a ScarletDawnArmor.esp 91 5b LeatherThiefArmor.esp 92 5c Serana.esp 93 5d LeftHandRings.esp 94 5e UNP Leather Clothes.esp 95 5f FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 96 60 TS_RogueOutfits.esp 97 61 Blade and Soul Negligee.esp 98 62 SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp 99 63 Hair Physics Project.esp 100 64 UnreadBooksGlow.esp FlameAtronachArmor.esp 101 65 HDTHair_Sky201.esp 102 66 npchairoverhaul.esp 103 67 NewVampChainsArmorReplacer.esp 104 68 HDTTESTEarring.esp 105 69 Newmelv.esp 106 6a Marriable Serana HF.esp 107 6b 0db2patch.esp 108 6c VioLens.esp 109 6d The Ningheim.esp 110 6e SkyUI.esp 111 6f SpousesEnhanced.esp 112 70 TemptressVixen.esp 113 71 The Ningheim - Followers.esp 114 72 Kate.esp 115 73 SexLab_Solutions.esp 116 74 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 117 75 DanarielStormbow.esp 118 76 KS Jewelry.esp 119 77 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 120 78 AMatterOfTime.esp 121 79 Schoolgirl Mashup - UNPB BBP.esp 122 7a Jennifer.esp 123 7b YuiH StandAlone Follower - Merura.esp 124 7c Tauriel The Hobbit.esp 125 7d bm_SimpleAction.esp 126 7e DWISSglasses-plain.esp 127 7f towConversation.esp 128 80 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 129 81 Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix - Chameleon Version.esp 130 82 Minou's Wigs.esp 131 83 IridumEyes2.0.esp 132 84 VesWhoreOutfit.esp 133 85 Northgirl.esp 134 86 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 135 87 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp 136 88 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp 137 89 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp 138 8a Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 139 8b Vivid Landscapes.esp 140 8c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 141 8d ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 142 8e ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp 143 8f CoT-WeatherPatch.esp 144 90 TrueStorms.esp 145 91 TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp 146 92 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp 147 93 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp 148 94 mintylightningmod.esp 149 95 ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 150 96 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp 151 97 CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp 152 98 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL1.esp 153 99 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp 154 9a MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp 155 9b Better Dynamic Snow.esp 156 9c Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp 157 9d Hoop Earrings.esp 158 9e HepsyBasicWearsUNPCM.esp 159 9f LadyKdCirclets.esp 160 a0 Osare GothicLolita.esp 161 a1 Hip-huggers.esp 162 a2 doahair.esp 163 a3 Niahs Hair V6.esp 164 a4 Kaw's Claws.esp 165 a5 RaceMenuOverlays.esp 166 a6 AK_RM_Tattoos.esp 167 a7 Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp 168 a8 Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp 169 a9 NewmNecklaces2.esp 170 aa Emfy Cleric Robes.esp 171 ab RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp 172 ac NewJewelleryGems.esp 173 ad SchoolgirlOutfit.esp 174 ae AOM.esp 175 af HTBWigsApachiiSkyHair.esp 176 b0 RingOfCraft-10000.esp 177 b1 DanceTogether.esp 178 b2 RSRainCOT.esp 179 b3 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 180 b4 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 181 b5 Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp 182 b6 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 183 b7 AsharaDimonizedDress.esp 184 b8 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 185 b9 Brows.esp 186 ba Kate - AnimPack TBBP.esp 187 bb RaceMenu.esp 188 bc RaceMenuPlugin.esp 189 bd FNIS.esp 190 be Brawl Bugs CE.esp 191 bf RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 192 c0 12FemaleBrows.esp 193 c1 RailLight.esp 194 c2 Bijin Wives.esp 195 c3 Bijin NPCs.esp 196 c4 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 197 c5 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 198 c6 EFFDialogue.esp 199 c7 UIExtensions.esp 200 c8 AddItemMenu.esp 201 c9 fox39 Armor.esp 202 ca XPMSE.esp 203 cb SOSRaceMenu.esp 204 cc FNISSexyMove.esp 205 cd Merta Assassin Armor.esp 206 ce Tembtra Thief Armor.esp 207 cf Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp 208 d0 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp 209 d1 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp 210 d2 DraugrSkirts.esp 211 d3 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 212 d4 StayPretty.esp 213 d5 SexLabMatchMaker.esp 214 d6 SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp 215 d7 SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp 216 d8 NusbieVoices.esp 217 d9 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 218 da SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 219 db TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp 220 dc SexLab TDFAP - Requiem Blue Aura Fix.esp 221 dd SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp 222 de SLAnimSpeed.esp 223 df 0SACT.esp 224 e0 hairseranahavok.esp 225 e1 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp 226 e2 SassyTeen.esp 227 e3 FollowerSha.esp 228 e4 RSPatch.esp 229 e5 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp One big problem I have is with expansions such as Falskaar and Wyrmtooth- I 'played through' both of them a couple of times, and now I'm done with them, so there's really no reason for them to be cluttering up my load order any more. However, I know that I have installed several mods that are dependent on one or both of them, so I would have to identify those dependencies before removing the expansions, then try to find non-Falskaar/Wyrmtooth versions of the other mods. Since that's a lot of trouble, the expansions are still there despite the fact that I haven't visited them in ages and don't plan to. Glad you liked my vids- I'm waiting for a stable version of 0sex to be released before making any new ones.
evans3rd Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 GreyCloud - I've got so much hard drive space I don't often delete anything. Instead of cleaning, scrubbing, and polishing a corrupted or suspect OS I pop a trusted image on the hard drive and go. Keeping up with MS updates is a pain in the ass this way but worth it in the long run. Before my video card burned up there wasn't a game made that wouldn't run as smooth as a babies ass on this thing. For a long time I never connected it on line. I'd use XP to down load and scan then move them over with an external drive or USB. I didn't even want an Ethernet card connected to it so file sharing wasn't an option. I use a KVM switch BTW. The idea was/is a very short load list for Vista and I don't want anything using the CPU but the game that is running. With all the available RAM that Vista allows, no Virus protection to deal with or use the CPU, and running as administrator it has been a sweet setup. I have gotten lazy though. It has AVG and an Ethernet card now. Without the Badass video card it's just not sweet anymore so I made things easier on myself and try to ignore the pixilated graphics and LAG (so much LAG now). I need a video card. I've got it running from C:/ProgramFiles(x86)/Skyrim now and will test it out when I'm done here. It's time Vilja and I went for a long walk. LOL She makes a lovely camp too. "Just to be clear, I only have the pirate copy installed. I installed and ran the Steam version, opened an account etc then uninstalled everything Steam related. There would be nothing to stop me installing another instance of the pirate copy in a different folder or on another drive." - That pirate label bothers me. It is paid for so it isn't pirated. You know, the more I think about it the more pissed off I get about it. I shouldn't be forced to run in a specific directory or have to give up CPU time to be monitored. In fact, I think I just became very determined to go back to the way I originally set this up. <Curls up in the fetal position muttering repeatedly; "…so much lag." Water breathing is a must. Even more so for followers. Heartbreaking to see them floating like that. My circlets are enchanted with water breathing and bows. It's not written in stone or even a rule but they always seem to end up with those two enchantments. Confession - You'll notice I have the levelers tower mod. I've played this game so many times that building a character from 1 had gotten to be old hat and bothersome. I take a new PC up to about 30 before I make it to Whiterun. Enchantment and making armor are at 100% before I start. I do have a system that works well for doing it without cheating. Once I have about 40k I can make, enchant, and sell armor till I'm 100% on both. It got old though. This is the way I have been playing but for the first time in 2 or 3 years I feel like playing a none cheat start game again, if I could just get it working. I want to play this cheating male PC out, raise a family, impregnate half the women in Skyrim, play out the male side of the pregnancy mod, and start a Fem Fetal PC with no cheating. I think the SexLab mods make the difference. I can start, train, and play in very different ways now.
evans3rd Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Vyxenne - Falskaar - that was the big mod name I couldn't remember a few posts back. I know what you mean, I played it so it isn't loaded this time. There is one mod that is really cool but made one terribly fatal mistake. The Naverine from Marrowind shows up in Skyrim (400 years old now). You play some cool missions with him but when it's over some damn faction now wants your head and will spawn in your home (when you wake up) to get it. When they killed Merura I wanted vengeance, so I deleted it and went back to a save before it was even loaded. But yah, when I get board and go hunting for new content a lot of it gets played out and deleted. I still talk like I'm playing with my old system. Today I run 73 mods and can't get that to work. LOL " I don't have a bleeding-edge system- it's an i5 3570k overclocked to 4.2GHz, only 8GB of DDR3, GTX970 4GB (3.5 usable), Windows on one SSD and games on another SSD, with all other stuff on 2 HDDs, so yes, I have room for another copy of Skyrim, but not on an SSD. So although I normally get 50-60 fps now, that could drop to 20 if I ran all of this from a normal HDD." - The hard drive shouldn't cause your FPS to drop but your load times will get real long. Make that an i7 and it is a close to the edge system. It's not bad as it is. I can run a few more threads but you are clocked faster than I am. 3.8GHz if I remember right. No Over clocking though I do have the cooling system if I ever feel the need. I imagine it's very comparable to yours. I have had this one a while now though. Not sure what is available now. Haven't been keeping up. FNIS - I've gotten into the habit of running it every time I make any change at all. Even a load order change. Keeping track of mods and their dependencies is a pain in the ass. I end up looking at mod pages a lot for dependencies and install orders. I do well with my load order but it is a bitch to mange. Especially now that my memory doesn’t seem to work. LOL I've gotten good at it though. I don't use LOOT much. I remember times when I used NMM and Bash actually fucked it up. I had to learn how to do it myself. I only have Dawnguard of the DLC so I know what it's like to look for none dependency mods. It's a good habit to get into. I also refuse to load Racemenu till I get a video card. Racemenu was the one thing that could cause my old card to lag. I started using it to put tattoos on my followers and got in serious trouble. That’s another reason I don't use it, when it fucks up it's impossible to fix. The funny thing is that some dependencies are only dependencies if you use them. I should have Racemenu loaded but I don't. Makes note to self; load Racemenu and test stability. Edit: I've tried everything. Starting over. Sigh!
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