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Vixenne -

"I would like to change to UNP or UNP Skinny (HDT, of course) but at this point I don't think I could convert all of my wardrobe to another variant due to lack of bodyslide files. Plus, I'm leery of fixing something that ain't broke- I've got all this running with 231 plugins, ENB, Climates of Tamriel etc. etc. and I'm afraid to rock the boat too much." -

 

Words of wisdom from an experienced modder. Don't fix what isn't broken. BTW, 231? I've seen your videos but I'm more impressed than ever now.

If you have the hard drive space you can run a separate copy of Skyrim. I find this useful for experimenting when I don't want to take a chance on messing up my setup.

 

I don't have a bleeding-edge system- it's an i5 3570k overclocked to 4.2GHz, only 8GB of DDR3, GTX970 4GB (3.5 usable), Windows on one SSD and games on another SSD, with all other stuff on 2 HDDs, so yes, I have room for another copy of Skyrim, but not on an SSD. So although I normally get 50-60 fps now, that could drop to 20 if I ran all of this from a normal HDD.

 

I do have occasions where Skyrim won't load- it grinds away for a while after I hit Continue or Load, showing one of the many interactable loading screens, then just drops to desktop at the end. When it does that, loading a new-character save that I keep around just for that purpose always works, then after I let that settle down for a couple of minutes, I can go ahead and load my latest save from there. Most of the time, though, Skyrim just Continues or Loads just fine.

 

I really keep meaning to sit down and spend an afternoon merging most of my 'wearables' (clothing/jewelry/armor) mods to reduce plugin counts, but I've never done that before and again, I'm skeert. Meanwhile, I review my mods list occasionally and delete those I haven't actually used for a while. Since I posted my plugin count I removed one, so my plugin count is now down to 230.

 

I try to steer clear of mods whose description pages and/or support threads are just chock-full of incompatibilities and/or crash reports, so maybe part of my success is due more to the mods that are NOT in my load order than to the ones that are. Also, I run Generate FNIS For Users after any animation mod, or even suspected animation mod, and I run LOOT after any change at all to my mod list, including 'harmless' updates.

 

Here's my load order in case it says anything that might help anyone:

 

 

  0  0 Skyrim.esm

  1  1 Update.esm

  2  2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

  3  3 Dawnguard.esm

  4  4 Falskaar.esm

  5  5 Wyrmstooth.esp

  6  6 Dawnguard - Textures.esm

  7  7 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

  8  8 HearthFires.esm

  9  9 HearthFires - Textures.esm

 10  a Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

 11  b Dragonborn.esm

 12  c Dragonborn - Textures.esm

 13  d Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

 14  e SharedSeranaDialogue.esm

 15  f FoxHome_X.esm

 16 10 Dragon Break.esm

 17 11 0db2SECOND.esm

 18 12 hdtHighHeel.esm

 19 13 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

 20 14 AOM.esm

 21 15 ApachiiHair.esm

 22 16 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

 23 17 ZaZAnimationPack.esm

 24 18 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

 25 19 RaceCompatibility.esm

 26 1a PubicMeshColorRE.esm

 27 1b Heels Sound.esm

 28 1c EFFCore.esm

 29 1d SexLab.esm

 30 1e SexLabAroused.esm

 31 1f HighResTexturePack01.esp

 32 20 HighResTexturePack02.esp

 33 21 HighResTexturePack03.esp

 34 22 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

 35 23 AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp

 36 24 MashupUNP.esp

 37 25 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

 38 26 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp

 39 27 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

 40 28 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

 41 29 ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

 42 2a ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

 43 2b Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

 44 2c RealisticWaterTwo.esp

 45 2d ELFXEnhancer.esp

 46 2e AutoHarvest2.esp

 47 2f AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp

 48 30 RealShelter.esp

 49 31 RBB - Snowy New Lands Merge.esp

 50 32 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

 51 33 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

 52 34 SMIM-Merged-All.esp

 53 35 Dragon Falls Manor.esp

 54 36 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

 55 37 AsharaSkyrimCharacterPresetsReplacer.esp

 56 38 TavernClothes-MTM.esp

 57 39 Get Out Of My Way.esp

 58 3a Draconic Bloodline.esp

 59 3b Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

 60 3c DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp

 61 3d Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

 62 3e FISS.esp

 63 3f PATCHDragon Break.esp

 64 40 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

 65 41 Marriable Serana.esp

 66 42 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp

 67 43 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

 68 44 SOS - Shop.esp

 69 45 Gwelda Armor Pack.esp

 70 46 Luxury Collection.esp

 71 47 Luxury Collection Vendor.esp

 72 48 FNISspells.esp

 73 49 No Hood.esp

 74 4a CharGen ECE Morphs.esp

 75 4b BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp

 76 4c kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp

 77 4d BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

 78 4e MeridaHair.esp

 79 4f Katarina Outfit - UNPB BBP.esp

 80 50 Mini Vamps.esp

 81 51 Huntress.esp

 82 52 VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp

 83 53 Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp

 84 54 FullBootForKKSA.esp

 85 55 NailsUNP.esp

 86 56 NewmillerHighHeelsBlck.esp

 87 57 StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp

 88 58 HDTEarring.esp

 89 59 DAO Morrigan's Robes.esp

 90 5a ScarletDawnArmor.esp

 91 5b LeatherThiefArmor.esp

 92 5c Serana.esp

 93 5d LeftHandRings.esp

 94 5e UNP Leather Clothes.esp

 95 5f FS_UltimateAssortment.esp

 96 60 TS_RogueOutfits.esp

 97 61 Blade and Soul Negligee.esp

 98 62 SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp

 99 63 Hair Physics Project.esp

100 64 UnreadBooksGlow.esp

       FlameAtronachArmor.esp

101 65 HDTHair_Sky201.esp

102 66 npchairoverhaul.esp

103 67 NewVampChainsArmorReplacer.esp

104 68 HDTTESTEarring.esp

105 69 Newmelv.esp

106 6a Marriable Serana HF.esp

107 6b 0db2patch.esp

108 6c VioLens.esp

109 6d The Ningheim.esp

110 6e SkyUI.esp

111 6f SpousesEnhanced.esp

112 70 TemptressVixen.esp

113 71 The Ningheim - Followers.esp

114 72 Kate.esp

115 73 SexLab_Solutions.esp

116 74 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

117 75 DanarielStormbow.esp

118 76 KS Jewelry.esp

119 77 Bijin Warmaidens.esp

120 78 AMatterOfTime.esp

121 79 Schoolgirl Mashup - UNPB BBP.esp

122 7a Jennifer.esp

123 7b YuiH StandAlone Follower - Merura.esp

124 7c Tauriel The Hobbit.esp

125 7d bm_SimpleAction.esp

126 7e DWISSglasses-plain.esp

127 7f towConversation.esp

128 80 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

129 81 Clean  Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix - Chameleon Version.esp

130 82 Minou's Wigs.esp

131 83 IridumEyes2.0.esp

132 84 VesWhoreOutfit.esp

133 85 Northgirl.esp

134 86 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

135 87 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp

136 88 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp

137 89 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp

138 8a Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp

139 8b Vivid Landscapes.esp

140 8c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

141 8d ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

142 8e ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

143 8f CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

144 90 TrueStorms.esp

145 91 TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

146 92 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

147 93 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp

148 94 mintylightningmod.esp

149 95 ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

150 96 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp

151 97 CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp

152 98 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL1.esp

153 99 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp

154 9a MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

155 9b Better Dynamic Snow.esp

156 9c Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp

157 9d Hoop Earrings.esp

158 9e HepsyBasicWearsUNPCM.esp

159 9f LadyKdCirclets.esp

160 a0 Osare GothicLolita.esp

161 a1 Hip-huggers.esp

162 a2 doahair.esp

163 a3 Niahs Hair V6.esp

164 a4 Kaw's Claws.esp

165 a5 RaceMenuOverlays.esp

166 a6 AK_RM_Tattoos.esp

167 a7 Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp

168 a8 Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp

169 a9 NewmNecklaces2.esp

170 aa Emfy Cleric Robes.esp

171 ab RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp

172 ac NewJewelleryGems.esp

173 ad SchoolgirlOutfit.esp

174 ae AOM.esp

175 af HTBWigsApachiiSkyHair.esp

176 b0 RingOfCraft-10000.esp

177 b1 DanceTogether.esp

178 b2 RSRainCOT.esp

179 b3 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

180 b4 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

181 b5 Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

182 b6 Dual Sheath Redux.esp

183 b7 AsharaDimonizedDress.esp

184 b8 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

185 b9 Brows.esp

186 ba Kate - AnimPack TBBP.esp

187 bb RaceMenu.esp

188 bc RaceMenuPlugin.esp

189 bd FNIS.esp

190 be Brawl Bugs CE.esp

191 bf RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp

192 c0 12FemaleBrows.esp

193 c1 RailLight.esp

194 c2 Bijin Wives.esp

195 c3 Bijin NPCs.esp

196 c4 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp

197 c5 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp

198 c6 EFFDialogue.esp

199 c7 UIExtensions.esp

200 c8 AddItemMenu.esp

201 c9 fox39 Armor.esp

202 ca XPMSE.esp

203 cb SOSRaceMenu.esp

204 cc FNISSexyMove.esp

205 cd Merta Assassin Armor.esp

206 ce Tembtra Thief Armor.esp

207 cf Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp

208 d0 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp

209 d1 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp

210 d2 DraugrSkirts.esp

211 d3 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

212 d4 StayPretty.esp

213 d5 SexLabMatchMaker.esp

214 d6 SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp

215 d7 SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp

216 d8 NusbieVoices.esp

217 d9 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp

218 da SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

219 db TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp

220 dc SexLab TDFAP - Requiem Blue Aura Fix.esp

221 dd SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp

222 de SLAnimSpeed.esp

223 df 0SACT.esp

224 e0 hairseranahavok.esp

225 e1 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp

226 e2 SassyTeen.esp

227 e3 FollowerSha.esp

228 e4 RSPatch.esp

229 e5 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

 

One big problem I have is with expansions such as Falskaar and Wyrmtooth- I 'played through' both of them a couple of times, and now I'm done with them, so there's really no reason for them to be cluttering up my load order any more. However, I know that I have installed several mods that are dependent on one or both of them, so I would have to identify those dependencies before removing the expansions, then try to find non-Falskaar/Wyrmtooth versions of the other mods. Since that's a lot of trouble, the expansions are still there despite the fact that I haven't visited them in ages and don't plan to.

 

Glad you liked my vids- I'm waiting for a stable version of 0sex to be released before making any new ones.

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GreyCloud -

 

I've got so much hard drive space I don't often delete anything. Instead of cleaning, scrubbing, and polishing a corrupted or suspect OS I pop a trusted image on the hard drive and go. Keeping up with MS updates is a pain in the ass this way but worth it in the long run. Before my video card burned up there wasn't a game made that wouldn't run as smooth as a babies ass on this thing. For a long time I never connected it on line. I'd use XP to down load and scan then move them over with an external drive or USB. I didn't even want an Ethernet card connected to it so file sharing wasn't an option. I use a KVM switch BTW. The idea was/is a very short load list for Vista and I don't want anything using the CPU but the game that is running. With all the available RAM that Vista allows, no Virus protection to deal with or use the CPU, and running as administrator it has been a sweet setup. I have gotten lazy though. It has AVG and an Ethernet card now. Without the Badass video card it's just not sweet anymore so I made things easier on myself and try to ignore the pixilated graphics and LAG (so much LAG now). I need a video card.

I've got it running from  C:/ProgramFiles(x86)/Skyrim now and will test it out when I'm done here. It's time Vilja and I went for a long walk. LOL She makes a lovely camp too.

"Just to be clear, I only have the pirate copy installed. I installed and ran the Steam version, opened an account etc then uninstalled everything Steam related. There would be nothing to stop me installing another instance of the pirate copy in a different folder or on another drive." -

That pirate label bothers me. It is paid for so it isn't pirated. You know, the more I think about it the more pissed off I get about it. I shouldn't be forced to run in a specific directory or have to give up CPU time to be monitored. In fact, I think I just became very determined to go back to the way I originally set this up. <Curls up in the fetal position muttering repeatedly; "…so much lag."

 

Water breathing is a must. Even more so for followers. Heartbreaking to see them floating like that. My circlets are enchanted with water breathing and bows. It's not written in stone or even a rule but they always seem to end up with those two enchantments.

 

Confession  -

You'll notice I have the levelers tower mod. I've played this game so many times that building a character from 1 had gotten to be old hat and bothersome.  I take a new PC up to about 30 before I make it to Whiterun. Enchantment and making armor are at 100% before I start. I do have a system that works well for doing it without cheating. Once I have about 40k I can make, enchant, and sell armor till I'm 100% on both. It got old though. This is the way I have been playing but for the first time in 2 or 3 years I feel like playing a none cheat start game again, if I could just get it working. I want to play this cheating male PC out, raise a family, impregnate half the women in Skyrim, play out the male side of the pregnancy mod, and start a Fem Fetal PC with no cheating. I think the SexLab mods make the difference. I can start, train, and play in very different ways now.

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Vyxenne -

Falskaar - that was the big mod name I couldn't remember a few posts back. I know what you mean, I played it so it isn't loaded this time. There is one  mod that is really cool but made one terribly fatal mistake. The Naverine from Marrowind shows up in Skyrim (400 years old now). You play some cool missions with him but when it's over some damn faction now wants your head and will spawn in your home (when you wake up) to get it. When they killed Merura I wanted vengeance, so I deleted it and went back to a save before it was even loaded. But yah, when I get board and go hunting for new content a lot of it gets played out and deleted.

 

I still talk like I'm playing with my old system. Today I run 73 mods and can't get that to work. LOL

 

" I don't have a bleeding-edge system- it's an i5 3570k overclocked to 4.2GHz, only 8GB of DDR3, GTX970 4GB (3.5 usable), Windows on one SSD and games on another SSD, with all other stuff on 2 HDDs, so yes, I have room for another copy of Skyrim, but not on an SSD. So although I normally get 50-60 fps now, that could drop to 20 if I ran all of this from a normal HDD." -

The hard drive shouldn't cause your FPS to drop but your load times will get real long. Make that an i7 and it is a close to the edge system. It's not bad as it is. I can run a few more threads but you are clocked faster than I am. 3.8GHz if I remember right. No Over clocking though I do have the cooling system if I ever feel the need. I imagine it's very comparable to yours. I have had this one a while now though. Not sure what is available now. Haven't been keeping up.

 

FNIS - I've gotten into the habit of running it every time I make any change at all. Even a load order change.

Keeping track of mods and their dependencies is a pain in the ass. I end up looking at mod pages a lot for dependencies and install orders. I do well with my load order but it is a bitch to mange. Especially now that my memory doesn’t seem to work. LOL I've gotten good at it though. I don't use LOOT much. I remember times when I used NMM and Bash actually fucked it up. I had to learn how to do it myself.

 

I only have Dawnguard of the DLC so I know what it's like to look for none dependency mods. It's a good habit to get into. I also refuse to load Racemenu till I get a video card. Racemenu was the one thing that could cause my old card to lag. I started using it to put tattoos on my followers and got in serious trouble. That’s another reason I don't use it, when it fucks up it's impossible to fix. The funny thing is that some dependencies are only dependencies if you use them. I should have Racemenu loaded but I don't.

Makes note to self; load Racemenu and test stability.

 

Edit:

I've tried everything. Starting over. Sigh!

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Thank you so much for this mod, works great no complaints. I was wondering if you could explain how to apply the HDT vagina to standalone followers and what are the steps involved in doing so? 

 

Perhaps that could be added to the first page post as I've tried going through numerous pages of posts and searches but I'm still unclear. ( I did try simply adding .xml files to their body using nifscope but no effect)

 

Much appreciated

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Vyxenne and evans3rd,

 

Dependencies: In NMM if I deselect a mod all its depencencies will change colour and show a warning. Surely MO has something similar? The other side of this coin is requirements. It's easy to uninstall a mod and forget to remove its requirements (if they aren't needed by something else of course).

 

I agree with evans3rd that your hdd wont do anything to fps. Load screens perhaps but what's a second or two? Your save file size is a big influence here.

I have never bothered about fps with any game. The game either works to my satisfaction or it doesn't. One frequently comes across people on forums who are obsessed by their fps, as if not having a certain number of frames per second somehow precludes you from being a 'real' gamer.

 

SSDs are all well and good but that only moves the data to RAM. How often do you need to shift half a gig of data per sec? From what I have read, anything over 8GiB of RAM is wasted on Skyrim regardless of OS.

 

Vyxenne,

A couple of things jumped out from your load order. First, I couldn't see any of the files from this mod, And second, the number of patches you have there. All those clothing mods and all those patches - there has to be joke there somewhere.

 

evans3rd,

I wasn't aware of the Leveller's Tower mod. A few weeks ago I would have run off and installed it but now, with my newly acquired iron-will and self-discipline, I will ignore it.

 

Edit: New version of XP32 Skeleton Extended (v 3.86) on the Nexus.

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I ... think I got this mod to work. 

 

But I'm having issues with it. My PC's right labium is the only part of the vagina that is animated - and even then, it's still pretty inconsistent with animating successfully in general. I noticed that when it does move, the penis is lined up slightly to the right. It has to be completely aligned, zeroed in to the vagina for the labia to animate properly, right?

 

Because I tried that, I tried moving the male around as he's flopping on top of my PC, but the labia remains half-animated. 

 

Sighing with irritation, I advanced the scene, and lo and behold, the labia's animation stopped completely. The male NPC is penetrating her, his penis lined up completely with her vagina, but her labia isn't moving. 

 

Like I mentioned earlier in this post, it's really inconsistent with animating. It doesn't appear to work for all animations (Leito's Missionary 3 made my PC's right labium animate, whereas the vanilla Missionary animation did nothing).

 

What am I doing wrong? Is it something with my installation? Is it SOS? Am I not aligning SOS properly?

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Grey Cloud -

Yes, MO will show mod relations with green above and red below but it is only as good as LOOT list rules. I wrote a few pages back about what a great learning tool that would have been to have back when I was trying to figure it all out. I don't remember it in NMM but I stopped playing for a long time.

 

I understand why people get into FPS. It's a performance thing like a big V8 in a light car. My standards are low though. I never worried about it much with the old card, now I'm ok with 20FPS. LOL

I got into it a bit when playing on line shooters. The competition is heavy and a performance advantage helps with that kind of game. I got good at head shots but when my connection was spotty I died a lot. A lagy system is just as deadly. It doesn’t matter when you click the mouse (fire a shot) if the server doesn’t know you have yet.

 

"I wasn't aware of the Leveller's Tower mod. A few weeks ago I would have run off and installed it but now, with my newly acquired iron-will and self-discipline, I will ignore it." -

My will is shaken. It's always something with this game. I think I'm fooling myself trying to run it with this video card. BTW, FNIS doesn’t even give me the warning running outside Steam now. That seems to work flawlessly now despite the path reference to the steam directory. Running outside Steam it went back to crashing in a more normal way; when fast traveling or graphically intense battles with fire and smoke, etc.. but too unstable to play. Trying to track down the instability I get to where there really isn't enough left to play and it still crashes too much. So, I loaded a saved Skyrim folder, with nothing but MO installed, outside Steam and deleted all other Skyrim installs. I planned to start a build from there but FNIS shows up in the plug in window. It's not there and trying to go through the install procedures the .exe isn't available in the last step, but it's in the plug in list. WTF? Toss it all. Start with disk install. There is no option to install outside Steam so I'm steamed. LOL

I think Steam adds an update so I should probably start the install there anyway (like I have a choice), move it out ASAP, and start building once it is in its own directory. It does seem to make a difference so it's worth a try.  

 

 

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I ... think I got this mod to work. 

 

But I'm having issues with it. My PC's right labium is the only part of the vagina that is animated - and even then, it's still pretty inconsistent with animating successfully in general. I noticed that when it does move, the penis is lined up slightly to the right. It has to be completely aligned, zeroed in to the vagina for the labia to animate properly, right?

 

Because I tried that, I tried moving the male around as he's flopping on top of my PC, but the labia remains half-animated. 

 

Sighing with irritation, I advanced the scene, and lo and behold, the labia's animation stopped completely. The male NPC is penetrating her, his penis lined up completely with her vagina, but her labia isn't moving. 

 

Like I mentioned earlier in this post, it's really inconsistent with animating. It doesn't appear to work for all animations (Leito's Missionary 3 made my PC's right labium animate, whereas the vanilla Missionary animation did nothing).

 

What am I doing wrong? Is it something with my installation? Is it SOS? Am I not aligning SOS properly?

 

Most of the time my sex scenes work well but never perfect. I've seen the vagina move with hand foreplay but then refuse to open even lined up perfectly. If it is happening a lot, all or most of the time, then something is wrong. Most likely an HDT issue of some kind. Make sure the body loads after all other HDT related mods. That helped me a lot with the animations.

Alignment helps but I have noticed that when all seems to work well that the penis only needs to be close to open the vagina and hands only move the labia unless fisting.

There is a list of hot keys in the SexLab MCM that will help with alignment.

 

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I ... think I got this mod to work. 

 

But I'm having issues with it. My PC's right labium is the only part of the vagina that is animated - and even then, it's still pretty inconsistent with animating successfully in general. I noticed that when it does move, the penis is lined up slightly to the right. It has to be completely aligned, zeroed in to the vagina for the labia to animate properly, right?

 

Because I tried that, I tried moving the male around as he's flopping on top of my PC, but the labia remains half-animated. 

 

Sighing with irritation, I advanced the scene, and lo and behold, the labia's animation stopped completely. The male NPC is penetrating her, his penis lined up completely with her vagina, but her labia isn't moving. 

 

Like I mentioned earlier in this post, it's really inconsistent with animating. It doesn't appear to work for all animations (Leito's Missionary 3 made my PC's right labium animate, whereas the vanilla Missionary animation did nothing).

 

What am I doing wrong? Is it something with my installation? Is it SOS? Am I not aligning SOS properly?

 

Most of the time my sex scenes work well but never perfect. I've seen the vagina move with hand foreplay but then refuse to open even lined up perfectly. If it is happening a lot, all or most of the time, then something is wrong. Most likely an HDT issue of some kind. Make sure the body loads after all other HDT related mods. That helped me a lot with the animations.

Alignment helps but I have noticed that when all seems to work well that the penis only needs to be close to open the vagina and hands only move the labia unless fisting.

There is a list of hot keys in the SexLab MCM that will help with alignment.

 

 

Alrighty, thanks for the reply. It really must just be wonky HDT then.

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Thank you so much for this mod, works great no complaints. I was wondering if you could explain how to apply the HDT vagina to standalone followers and what are the steps involved in doing so? 

 

Perhaps that could be added to the first page post as I've tried going through numerous pages of posts and searches but I'm still unclear. ( I did try simply adding .xml files to their body using nifscope but no effect)

 

Much appreciated

 

 

Vilja is my favorite Follower and there is no body replacer for her yet so I do it this way.

It's easy if you know how to locate all the files you need. In MO go into the All-in-one AnimatedPussy folder and locate the mesh files. I make a folder called mesh on the desk top and copy (not move) the whole set into that folder. Locate the matching textures, in the textures folder, create a desk top folder called textures, and copy the whole texture set into that folder. Place your new mesh and textures folders in a new folder called whatever you like. Now you have a body set.

Note: there can be a skeleton issue and I believe that has something to do with the .xml files you mentioned playing with in Nifscope but I haven't had to do anything with this and you seem to know more about it than I do already. LOL

 

Now I open up the Vilja redux mod. This one runs after the original Vilja mod so it determines the body she gets. Her original mod doesn't have mesh and texture folders so I wouldn't be able to do this without the redux mod unless I use the CK. Locate her mesh and texture folders. It's best to be cautious here. The fist thing I do is select all the files in both mesh and textures and make copies. It will append copy to the end of the file name. now you can just overwrite the originals with no wories. Before I know what all I need to make this particular follower work with this body I start out slow. When I'm satisfied I make up a new body set folder with Vilja's name and place only the mesh and texture files i used for her in it. This makes it easier to replace her body again should i need to reinstall her.

Start by replacing her body mesh  and texture only, go into the game and look at her nude. If she has hand and or feet seams than exit and add those meshes to her as well. If the hand and feet colors don't match add theose texture too.

The neck seem can be tricky. I'm using CBBE Curvy and I replace that with Clams of Skyrim from this mod and I have no neck seem to deal with. I think this mod supplies a matching head mesh too so I'm not sure that it even mattes. I turn off CBBE after installing this mod now and it doesn’t seem to have any bad effects. Not very well tested though. I just thought to do it recently.

 

 I like to have fair skin textures on Vilja. So, she gets the set of fair skin textures for the COS body. I had to do a completely separate install of this mod to extract them from this FOMOD install though.

 

I just remembered that you do have to replace the body texture with one from this mod or the vagina won't have a texture. Textures are best replaced as whole sets or you run the risk of a color mismatch.

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GreyCloud -

When I was writing about how I start a new install I thought there was a reason for loading CBBE and bodyslide before the utilities but couldn't remember for sure. I knew they all went in first though. Now that I am starting from scratch again I'm reminded that the first thing I load is MO. Then the DLC and updates. Then CBBE and bodyslide. One of the utilities has to have bodyslide loaded first. I'm just about to begin installing those. :)

 

Edit:

Your not going to believe how short my load list is now. Minimal Minimalist Setup. LOL

With all the hours of testing I have done lately I couldn't make myself load, test, load, test... so I've got 35 mods to start. I went through install procedures and dependencies before deciding on what to install next as a compromising precaution. LOL

I ended up with fewer of those Overwrite folder mods so I'm real hopeful I've done something right. :)

 

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Starting a fresh playthrough, getting my mods sorted... So many thanks for the easy installer. Boy did that make my life easier!

 

I have a question though: I selected the Extra Jennifer (?) body preset, but there's no equivalent to it in my BodySlide / Outfit Studio in the UNP Special section. What shape should I be rebuilding my outfits to?

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Starting a fresh playthrough, getting my mods sorted... So many thanks for the easy installer. Boy did that make my life easier!

 

I have a question though: I selected the Extra Jennifer (?) body preset, but there's no equivalent to it in my BodySlide / Outfit Studio in the UNP Special section. What shape should I be rebuilding my outfits to?

 

 

When you went through the install you should have chosen either the Clams of Skyrim body or the UNP Special body. On the next screen you chose a shape for that body. I use the COS with the CBBE Curvy shape so those are what I pic in Bodyslide. Incidentally, I don't know if it is the same for everybody but they are at the very top of the list when I look for them in Bodyslide.

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Yeah, like I said I chose UNP Special > Extra Jennifer (it's one of the presets in the installer)... But there's no preset called Extra Jennifer when I go to UNP Special in BodySlide. There's nothing with "Jennifer" in it at all.

 

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Nevermind. I just rebuilt everything with UNPBB instead.

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I don't have a bleeding-edge system- it's an i5 3570k overclocked to 4.2GHz, only 8GB of DDR3, GTX970 4GB (3.5 usable), Windows on one SSD and games on another SSD, with all other stuff on 2 HDDs,

 

Sorry but you stole a small laugh from me... :D 

 

That might not be "bleeding edge system" but sure as hell is far better than average

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evans3rd,

 

Quote of the month award: '...it went back to crashing in a more normal way'. A grammatically ridiculous statement which makes perfect sense to anyone who has spent more than 10 minutes with Skyrim. :D

 

BTW Look over your shoulder and you will see me catching up - down to less than 150 plug-ins and 203 mods. I reckon another couple of weeks of culling and I'll have my character running around a blank screen.

 

Struggling to understand what deselecting a plug-in actually achieves. Deselected an NPC overhaul mod days ago. Last night I uninstalled and reinstalled all the Bijin mods (for the umpteenth time) and was asked whether I wanted to overwrite files from the NPC mod.

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Thank you so much for this mod, works great no complaints. I was wondering if you could explain how to apply the HDT vagina to standalone followers and what are the steps involved in doing so? 

 

Perhaps that could be added to the first page post as I've tried going through numerous pages of posts and searches but I'm still unclear. ( I did try simply adding .xml files to their body using nifscope but no effect)

 

Much appreciated

 

 

Vilja is my favorite Follower and there is no body replacer for her yet so I do it this way.

It's easy if you know how to locate all the files you need. In MO go into the All-in-one AnimatedPussy folder and locate the mesh files. I make a folder called mesh on the desk top and copy (not move) the whole set into that folder. Locate the matching textures, in the textures folder, create a desk top folder called textures, and copy the whole texture set into that folder. Place your new mesh and textures folders in a new folder called whatever you like. Now you have a body set.

Note: there can be a skeleton issue and I believe that has something to do with the .xml files you mentioned playing with in Nifscope but I haven't had to do anything with this and you seem to know more about it than I do already. LOL

 

Now I open up the Vilja redux mod. This one runs after the original Vilja mod so it determines the body she gets. Her original mod doesn't have mesh and texture folders so I wouldn't be able to do this without the redux mod unless I use the CK. Locate her mesh and texture folders. It's best to be cautious here. The fist thing I do is select all the files in both mesh and textures and make copies. It will append copy to the end of the file name. now you can just overwrite the originals with no wories. Before I know what all I need to make this particular follower work with this body I start out slow. When I'm satisfied I make up a new body set folder with Vilja's name and place only the mesh and texture files i used for her in it. This makes it easier to replace her body again should i need to reinstall her.

Start by replacing her body mesh  and texture only, go into the game and look at her nude. If she has hand and or feet seams than exit and add those meshes to her as well. If the hand and feet colors don't match add theose texture too.

The neck seem can be tricky. I'm using CBBE Curvy and I replace that with Clams of Skyrim from this mod and I have no neck seem to deal with. I think this mod supplies a matching head mesh too so I'm not sure that it even mattes. I turn off CBBE after installing this mod now and it doesn’t seem to have any bad effects. Not very well tested though. I just thought to do it recently.

 

 I like to have fair skin textures on Vilja. So, she gets the set of fair skin textures for the COS body. I had to do a completely separate install of this mod to extract them from this FOMOD install though.

 

I just remembered that you do have to replace the body texture with one from this mod or the vagina won't have a texture. Textures are best replaced as whole sets or you run the risk of a color mismatch.

 

 

 

Go raibh mile maith agat! (I'm from Ireland too lol)

 

 

A simple suggestion and it worked great thankfully, I wish I thought of it rather than messing with nifscope lol. 

Yes that worked, your suggestion worked really well, only thing I need to fix is the vagina texture themselves  for custom followers but hopefully I can figure that out too. Thanks again friend

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Can anyone explain the relationship between HDT and BBP please? I've just reinstalled/updated XP32 Skele Extended and one of the options involves choosing between these two (or others). I chose HDT as it was the default but I use UUNP BBP.

 

BTW/FYI XP32 skele Ext has gone up to v3.87, it was 3.86 yesterday.

 

By the gods this forum software gets right on my tits.

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Can anyone explain the relationship between HDT and BBP please? I've just reinstalled/updated XP32 Skele Extended and one of the options involves choosing between these two (or others). I chose HDT as it was the default but I use UUNP BBP.

 

BTW/FYI XP32 skele Ext has gone up to v3.87, it was 3.86 yesterday.

 

By the gods this forum software gets right on my tits.

 

The Bounce 'n Jiggle for UUNP is, technically, HDT and not BBP as far as I know.

 

For example, I have replaced my former UNPB-BBP body system with UUNP-UNPB-HDT from v2.0 of this mod.

 

So I think your conundrum is simply a matter of semantically arcane acronymics. (Say that rapidly 3 times in succession and click your heels to be instantly teleported straight to the Temple Of Dibella's Disciplinary Chambers... where I shall be awaiting your arrival... you naughty, naughty boy...)

 

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<snip! hack! slash!>

 

I like Vilja for a companion. I usually let her chatter but you can turn her off. Blocking the way can be a pain in the ass. "Yes, dear. Is there anything I can do for you?" You can GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY!!!

 

<snip, snop, snappity-snip>

 

Oh, ye of little face! :P

 

Firstly, you can change how followers follow and move away when you bump them- including 'companions' as well as people who are following you only because you are their pimp. There are a couple of versions for different follow distances and how far they move when you bump them.

 

Secondly, you can extend Vilja's native GTFOOMW! functionality to any interactable NPC except guards and a few others.

 

The two mods above are compatible with each other and 'work a treat' as our brethren (and sistren) in the ancestral motherland are so fond of saying. I have personally gone into a dungeon with 18 prostitutes plus 10-12 companions and set them all upon one another using Mass Matchmaker. The ensuing orgy was glorious, and nobody blocked any halls or doorways... at least, not for long.

 

Turdly  :D  you can turn off collision between you and any NPC. Sadly, this might disable collisions between (whatever) and the animated labia you have so thoughtfully bestowed upon most of the females in the game via this mod, but I thought I'd include it here because I find posting nonsensical solutions amusing. :wub:

 

Then finally, there is

, which is satisfying and lore-friendly, but somewhat harsh on non-essential companions... :blink:
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Can anyone explain the relationship between HDT and BBP please? I've just reinstalled/updated XP32 Skele Extended and one of the options involves choosing between these two (or others). I chose HDT as it was the default but I use UUNP BBP.

 

BTW/FYI XP32 skele Ext has gone up to v3.87, it was 3.86 yesterday.

 

By the gods this forum software gets right on my tits.

 

The Bounce 'n Jiggle for UUNP is, technically, HDT and not BBP as far as I know.

 

For example, I have replaced my former UNPB-BBP body system with UUNP-UNPB-HDT from v2.0 of this mod.

 

So I think your conundrum is simply a matter of semantically arcane acronymics. (Say that rapidly 3 times in succession and click your heels to be instantly teleported straight to the Temple Of Dibella's Disciplinary Chambers... where I shall be awaiting your arrival... you naughty, naughty boy...)

 

 

Vyxenne,

 

You may be wrong on this one. With the HDT option I didn't get any bounce & jiggle - everything was rock solid. Reinstalled with the BBP option and bingo. You have lot more bounce, jiggle, wobble and huggle mods installed than I do, mayhap that is clouding the issue.

 

As for the last part, that's the story of my life: I'm not the messiah, just a very naughty boy. Also, I went to an all boys Grammar school so physical chastisement was a sort of occupational hazard - especially given my relationship with authority combined with a propensity for absconding at any given opportunity.

 

Re your reply to evans3rd, I use Move It or somesuch mod. It works but not fast enough for my tastes (read: short temper).

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Just installed the 3.3 update and everything seems to be working well.

 

I've got a question since this mod doesn't replace everybody, it only seems to replace certain followers for example it did all the Bijin ones, all the housecarls and a few others it doesn't seem to apply it to every body once the clothes are off. For example I just stripped Arcadia (the potion seller in Whiterun) but she seems to have some default body under the clothes that don't jiggle.

 

Is there a way to do this by copying and pasting files, if so which ones?

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It's not working for me

I uploaded the things I selected while installing the other mods

I have also updated FNIS behavior while the gender specific animation and skeleton arm fixed are ticked

Did you install all the requirements? This includes the body slider and when installing, choosing the proper options.

What other mods are you using that might be involved with textures?

 

I'm currently still trying to find a way to fix my neck seam and the fact blood effects never splatter on the face.

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