Devious Devices - Equip (LE)

[comar-555]

On 5/19/2022 at 6:04 AM, Inte said:

Every device from DDe is prefixed with iDDe.

 

 

I have the same problem.

Instead of a transparent suit, only zippers.

suit from devious-devices-equip !!!   Used additemmenu.

 

Link to video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dyCn6wXPnhVTaq_RxNXTWkN33xFV5NU7/view

 

Спойлер

 

Edited July 12, 2022 by comar-555

[serranna]

I was wondering, is there a reason these options are not selectable at any time? Is there a way to toggle some of these?

 

[kurotatsu]

11 minutes ago, serranna said:

I was wondering, is there a reason these options are not selectable at any time? Is there a way to toggle some of these?

 

 

 

I think you need to select type of device over it - armbinder, elbow binder, etc...

[serranna]

4 hours ago, notwavman said:

 

I think you need to select type of device over it - armbinder, elbow binder, etc...

 

That's not it. I have tried just about every combination of selected/unselected you can think of here.

 

 

There is an entire section underneath this with plug effects that is also greyed out.

[serranna]

I figured out why the MCM was greyed out, it was because the character had some restraints on, however I have another question.

 

Is there a particular reason jumping is disabled when wearing one of the Iron yoke reskins? (The thicker, heavier looking one)

[lurkerfrombelow]

Having a bit of an issue with the SE version.

 

My character got equipped with a handful Red Rope items, but only the gag and blindfold (removed in screenshots) render on my character. The rest of them are sadly missing.

 

I can't see any warnings on the MCM or console (except SUM complaining the latest SexLab ver is untested and suggesting I downgrade...)

 

Any ideas why the ropes aren't showing? I got DDE pretty much for those ^_^

 

Spoiler

 

[chaimhewast]

10 hours ago, lurkerfrombelow said:

Any ideas why the ropes aren't showing?

Devices not rendering is usually because you didn't use BodySlide to generate your DD meshes.

[lurkerfrombelow]

2 hours ago, chaimhewast said:

Devices not rendering is usually because you didn't use BodySlide to generate your DD meshes.

Ah, that was it exactly. Thanks for the help!

[zingidyzongxxx]

Is there any mod out there that adds functionality between this mod and cursed loot, or something similar? Basically, just adding some items to the ones that can be randomly selected by DCL or other mods. I haven't been able to find anything and I'm surprised that that wouldn't exist.

 

Mainly I just want the dwemer mech suit integrated into the game cause it's super cool ? seriously if someone made a quest mod for that tied into DCL or something it would be awesome.

[Kimy]

18 hours ago, zingidyzongxxx said:

Is there any mod out there that adds functionality between this mod and cursed loot, or something similar? Basically, just adding some items to the ones that can be randomly selected by DCL or other mods. I haven't been able to find anything and I'm surprised that that wouldn't exist.

 

 

That's because DCL is using its own drop system. It's fairly hard to inject devices from outsides DCL for its traps to use.

[Inte]

On 7/23/2022 at 2:15 AM, serranna said:

I figured out why the MCM was greyed out, it was because the character had some restraints on, however I have another question.

 

Is there a particular reason jumping is disabled when wearing one of the Iron yoke reskins? (The thicker, heavier looking one)

It might be the ZAP one, which does not have a jump animation.

[Inte]

On 6/7/2022 at 4:19 AM, qjhsaws said:

Hi, I don't know if it is intended, but DDE doesn't seems to be updating my PC status in realtime, the frequency setting doesn't seem to do anything. The effect doesn't start unless i click on DDE's mcm menu(no need to click refresh, just showing the index is enough), however, when i remove device DDE will detect that immediately. I'm kinda confused by this behaviour, is there a way I can set it to automatic?

I did it that way for safety reasons. 

The frequency affects how often effects are applied. 

[Inte]

On 7/11/2022 at 6:58 AM, comar-555 said:

 

 

I have the same problem.

Instead of a transparent suit, only zippers.

suit from devious-devices-equip !!!   Used additemmenu.

 

Link to video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dyCn6wXPnhVTaq_RxNXTWkN33xFV5NU7/view

 

  Hide contents

 

This is on SE/AE I presume?

Sounds like the texture mapping is reversed for SE, so instead of making the zippers invisible, it is the suit that is invisible. You can fix it in CK/Tes5Edit.

[DonQuiWho]

11 hours ago, Kimy said:

 

That's because DCL is using its own drop system. It's fairly hard to inject devices from outsides DCL for its traps to use.

 

FWIW, and while we're at this,

 

@Kimy if you can ever find the time, will and/or inclination to change the DCL dropped 'cuffs' to some sort of proper hand restraints, eg mittens, manacles, chains, ie that are functional rather than just decorative (and will therefore also be recognised and useable by @Kharos 'Better NPC Support for Devious Devices 0.7 beta 1 SE'), you might make more than just me happy!  

 

And the @Bane Master current version of Defeat, as amended and improved by the @AndrewLRG post event retraint addition (which uses the DCL mechanic) will be far more challenging/realistic   

 

Presently, High Security restraints, unlockable by followers with standard restraint keys, are just too overpowered for dungeon crawling, and the armbinders not needing keys at all are just too easy, so something functional but giving a chance of escape if you manage your 'party' properly

 

Aside from just changing just what DCL drops, an alternative, of course, would be to add a soft dependency in DCL to Inte's DDEquip, so that if enabled DCL could call from a set of custom restraint outfits (No, Not the FIFA of Buzzy Bee things!) that the user has created themselves here as an alternative to DCL's drops.  It's possible to create all sorts of varied levels of difficulty.   @Nymra 's Naked Defeat already has that capability and that's quite good (regardless of whether or not the rest of his mod runs smoothly on your setup or not ?)

 

(sorry to barge in @Inte, but it seems to fit the general issues addressed here in your thread)

[comar-555]

11 hours ago, Inte said:

This is on SE/AE I presume?

No... LE 

 

11 hours ago, Inte said:

You can fix it in CK/Tes5Edit.

Can you be a little more specific about what parameter to look for? Or it won't work for LE?

Edited July 26, 2022 by comar-555

[Inte]

19 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

(No, Not the FIFA of Buzzy Bee things!)

Oh, come on. FIFA is the bestest ever. 

[Inte]

12 hours ago, comar-555 said:

No... LE 

That's what I am using, and it works correctly. 

What version of DDx do you use?

Post a ss of your DDe MCM System page. 

[serranna]

On 7/26/2022 at 4:35 AM, DonQuiWho said:

(No, Not the FIFA of Buzzy Bee things!)

 

I happen to really like the bumblebee skin. In fact I'm a fan of most of these looks.

 

Bumblebee and Inox are the best though.

[serranna]

On 7/25/2022 at 11:15 PM, Inte said:

This is on SE/AE I presume?

Sounds like the texture mapping is reversed for SE, so instead of making the zippers invisible, it is the suit that is invisible. You can fix it in CK/Tes5Edit.

 

I have a similar problem with the catsuit and I'm on SE. When I equip the item, literally ONLY the zippers are visible.

 

Spoiler

 

Also using the latest versions. Is this a known issue with SE?

 

 

Edited July 27, 2022 by serranna

[Kharos]

On 7/26/2022 at 11:35 AM, DonQuiWho said:

Presently, High Security restraints, unlockable by followers with standard restraint keys, are just too overpowered for dungeon crawling, and the armbinders not needing keys at all are just too easy, so something functional but giving a chance of escape if you manage your 'party' properly

 

 

Steel shackles / prisoner chains might be a happy middle ground? You can't struggle out but you can unlock them with keys (though you may fail to unlock them sometimes because you are not able to reach the lock).

[Inte]

20 hours ago, serranna said:

I have a similar problem with the catsuit and I'm on SE. When I equip the item, literally ONLY the zippers are visible.

That would make sense on SE, like I said before the mapping could be reversed. However, it does not make sense on LE because that's what I am using, and it works correctly with DDx 5.1. 

 

If you want to check it out, you can open DDe in TES5Edit and make sure that the null texture is set only for the 'black' and 'zip'.

See here,

Spoiler

 

Or in CK

Spoiler

 

[serranna]

1 hour ago, Inte said:

If you want to check it out, you can open DDe in TES5Edit and make sure that the null texture is set only for the 'black' and 'zip'.

See here,

 

That was it. I went into CK and sure enough you were right.

 

Spoiler

 

I switched them up and it fixed it. It is now officially my favorite catsuit in the game. I love the way that looks.

 

[DonQuiWho]

2 hours ago, Kharos said:

 

Steel shackles / prisoner chains might be a happy middle ground? You can't struggle out but you can unlock them with keys (though you may fail to unlock them sometimes because you are not able to reach the lock).

 

Thanks for responding

 

Fair points to be sure, and there are quite a few DD based 'hand' restraints that actually do 'work' 'properly', and are current in DD5+

 

The issue here is that DCL has a specific set of restraints used which doesn't include any of those and, consequently, doesn't/won't drop them, or anything like them on the player,  Not to say there's not a good range of devices, but the hand restraints are all 'ancient LL technology' ?

 

As for Defeat, in former versions the restraint drops came from older versions of DD which didn't include that sort of properly functional stuff, being based on DD 4.3 and before.  

 

The best current version of Defeat by Bane fixed a lot of the underlying issues with the basic mod, but the - very nice, comprehensive - add-on by AndrewLRG, which updated the restraints applied to PC and followers in the post defeat scenarios, is based on the the DCL drop mechanism which, of course, only uses the selection of restraints 'hard coded' in there.  

 

So, going full circle, if you want a mod that adds current best functionality hand restrains to the PC and followers in the post defeat aftermath/hand off, you have to use something else.

 

But, whilst there are some, really valiant attempts at 'defeat type' mods at the moment, (and there are some very hard working modders out there doing their level best to produce something that is undoubtedly very difficult), right now none that I have tried provide defeat type scenario equivalents that work as simply and reliably .  Naked Defeat is quite good in the creative use of (soft dependency) DDEquip's excellent 'Outfit Creator' (why this discussion started here) but the mod has a lot more built in complexity, some strokes of genius, but others too non optiona and hence more than a simple minded punter like me might want

 

So if someone who knows how to could just tweak DCL/Defeat as simply as possible to do this one 'add modern hand restraint' thing.... ?

 

But I reckon ZAP 9 will probably appear first  LOL

[comar-555]

On 7/27/2022 at 7:48 AM, Inte said:

That's what I am using, and it works correctly. 

What version of DDx do you use?

Post a ss of your DDe MCM System page. 

DDx 5.1

 

Spoiler

Updated DDx 5.2 beta 6

 

Spoiler

 

I have a very long problem with this suit. I went through many versions. I use the assembly from "Stas2503".

list mod

Spoiler

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"0001","DLC: HearthFires",""
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"0009","FNIS Creature Pack 7.6","7.6.0.0"
"0010","SG Hairs",""
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"0013","SOS Full LE",""
"0014","Heels Sound",""
"0016","SexLabFramework v162 FULL","1.62.0.0"
"0017","SLAX - 29 - 2019-10-21-0 (wip)","d2021.2.19.0"
"0018","ZaZ Animation Pack+ UUNP HDT V.8.0+","d2018.2.3.0"
"0019","CreatureFramework V2_0_3","d2021.8.28.0"
"0020","SKYGS 4","d2019.12.3.0"
"0021","PSQ3.2.8a","d2021.8.29.0"
"0022","Sex Lab - Sexual Fame 0.99","d2020.11.24.0"
"0024","Interactive Torture FrameWork_0.3","d2021.2.17.0"
"0027","Devious Devices LE 5.2 Beta 6","5.2.0.0"
"0029","dcc-soulgem-oven-v310","d2021.2.15.0"
"0030","Deviously Cursed Loot 9.0","9.0.0.0"
"0031","KziitdXXXToolset_1.0","d2020.1.6.0"
"0032","Fort Knox 0.9 LE","d2021.3.27.0"
"0034","MMS Overhaul",""
"0035","MMSO - Core Spring",""
"0036","SKYGS Outfits UUNP 7.0","d2020.5.22.0"
"0038","PamaPrisonAlternative_V1.2","d2021.8.28.0"
"0039","Estrus Chaurus V4.390 LE","d2021.8.30.0"
"0040","Underground Bathhouse and Paradise Valley","6.0.0.0"
"0041","Highland-Park Innovation","d2020.8.7.0"
"0042","Add Perk Points Mod","9.26.0.0"
"0043","SPERG-4-0","d2020.11.12.0"
"0044","Maids II Deception","5.1.6.0"
"0045","pahe_lives_on-7.5.1","d2021.2.27.0"
"0046","pahe_lives_on-8.0.1 skyrim Le update patch","d2021.9.24.0"
"0047","SkyrimLazz Homes","1.2.3.0"
"0048","VIGILANT 162 Ru","1.6.2.0"
"0049","Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2","2.5.1.0"
"0050","RDO LE 1 2",""
"0051","PAH Dwarven Devious Suits",""
"0052","TDF Prostitution",""
"0053","Sexlab Defeat Baka Edition English LE 1.11V","d2021.8.4.0"
"0054","SLA Monitor Widget","d2019.5.6.0"
"0056","Anub C 7.2021","d2021.9.16.0"
"0057","Anub H 7.2021","d2021.9.16.0"
"0058","Lord Anims","d2020.11.14.0"
"0059","NCK30 SLAL 3.2","d2021.10.17.0"
"0060","SLAL NibblesAnims 5.81","5.7.0.0"
"0061","Billyy's SLAL Animations 5.0","5.0.0.0"
"0062","Babo Human 2021.06.09 LE","d2021.8.1.0"
"0063","Babo Creature 2021.06.09 LE","d2021.8.1.0"
"0064","SLAL SH Furniture anims V2.11","d2020.3.20.0"
"0065","Nymra's SLAL Animations 0-9","d2020.8.18.0"
"0066","Nymra's SLAL - Forced Foreplay - 0-1","d2020.9.20.0"
"0067","CobaltAnimationSpankingPack 1.4.3","d2020.6.27.0"
"0068","Psyche Animations 1.1.6","1.1.6.0"
"0069","FlufyFox SLAL LE Creature","d2021.11.4.0"
"0070","FlufyFox SLAL LE Human","d2021.11.4.0"
"0071","MoreNastyCritters_v12_6B","d2021.9.10.0"
"0072","SD Cages 3.90.0","d2021.10.24.0"
"0073","Luxury Collection - UUNP HDT","d2020.5.22.0"
"0074","Immersive Wenches LE",""
"0075","Deadly Wenches","d2018.11.1.0"
"0077","SlaveTats-1.3.0-beta-2","d2021.9.16.0"
"0078","Slave of the System pack","d2020.8.16.0"
"0079","fadeTattoos_v1.0","d2021.4.4.0"
"0080","rapeTattoos_v1.4","d2021.4.4.0"
"0081","Violens LE",""
"0082","Heart Breaker LE",""
"0083","AddItemMenuLE","d2018.10.21.0"
"0084","Infinite Gold Merchants","d2018.10.25.0"
"0085","Achieve That","d2018.7.14.0"
"0086","Immersive Monster Girls","d2018.11.7.0"
"0087","The Paarthurnax Dilemma LE",""
"0088","Ashara Merchants of Trainers LE",""
"0089","HFMultikid LE 1 2",""
"0090","HG Hairdos - LE",""
"0091","Tullius Hair 3 Pack 96","d2021.3.6.0"
"0092","Face Light",""
"0093","Custom Light","1.1.0.0"
"0094","Trade And Barter - Hearthfire","d2019.10.6.0"
"0095","ThunderChild - Epic Shout Package","d2019.10.10.0"
"0096","CCOR-1.7ru","d2020.11.7.0"
"0097","JaySuS Swords","13.0.0.0D"
"0098","FMR Apocalypse Magic",""
"0099","Midas Magic Spells for Skyrim FIXED","1.0.4.0"
"0100","Colorful Magic v1_26 -Darkside Edition","d2021.10.21.0"
"0101","SKYGS Extention","d2020.10.9.0"
"0102","Sneak Tools 1_00","f1.00"
"0103","True Thane-105137-3-2-1623272535","1.3.0.0"
"0104","Skyrim Reputation","d2021.9.8.0"
"0105","Guard Dialogue Overhaul","d2021.9.8.0"
"0106","Realistic Needs and Diseases 2.0","2.3.4.0"
"0107","Fantasy Soundtrack Project","4.1.0.0"
"0109","SexLab Utility Plus 07082021","d2021.8.7.0"
"0110","Simple Slavery Plus Plus 6.3.12 [LE]","d2021.6.10.0"
"0111","Radiant Prostitution-Gigolo LE v7.0.4","d2021.7.25.0"
"0112","SexLab Solutions LE",""
"0113","SM Essential Player","3.1.0.0"
"0114","PAH_HomeSweetHome_1.26 Ru","1.26.0.0"
"0115","PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.58c Ru","0.58.0.0c"
"0116","Public Whore v1.0.3 LE","d2021.4.22.0"
"0117","PW Guard Patch","d2021.11.7.0"
"0118","Pama Furniture","d2021.2.17.0"
"0119","SkoomaWhore 1.0.1 RUS","d2019.5.11.0"
"0120","Skooma Whore Patch V1.03 LE","d2021.9.3.0"
"0121","SLSW Addicted 3.635 LE Ru","d2021.9.3.0"
"0122","SexLabDirtyTalkRU","d2019.6.21.0"
"0123","display-model-v206","d2020.9.21.0"
"0124","The Sisterhood of Dibella","d2021.3.31.0"
"0125","PA_Extension_BadEndsRevived_WindHelm_V0.3","d2021.8.30.0"
"0126","Simply Knock","1.0.8.0"
"0128","DD for BeastRaces",""
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"0130","Laura's Bondage Shop v3.32 Ru","d2021.11.2.0"
"0131","Aradia Devious","d2019.5.5.0"
"0132","Deviously Enslaved Continued(v13.25.0)","d2019.12.9.0"
"0133","Devious Followers 2.14.4","d2021.6.1.0"
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"0137","EsturkBooze","d2021.3.24.0"
"0138","DeviouslyPink0.4B2","d2021.9.6.0"
"0140","S.L.U.T.S. Redux Ru","1.18.0.0"
"0142","Poser Hot Keys Plus",""
"0143","GomaPeroPoses","d2019.6.19.0"
"0144","FlufyFox_Pose LE","d2021.10.17.0"
"0145","2002167119_PredatorPosePackLE","d2021.10.17.0"
"0147","SkyCastleFinal","d2020.9.23.0"
"0148","Goma_Pero_Land(LE)_V6.0(RUS)","d2019.10.24.0"
"0149","Infiltrate and Assassinate v1.2","d2021.3.9.0"
"0150","M'rissi's Tails of Troubles","1.5.0.0"
"0151","Clockwork (Clockwork Castle)","1.0.3.0"
"0152","Hel Rising - Norse Quest and Follower Mod","1.10.0.0LE"
"0153","Vilja in Skyrim v.4.2-81888-4-2","d2019.2.27.0"
"0154","TARDIS - STL - Reborn","7.18.7.0"
"0155","Ocean View","d2020.8.8.0"
"0156","AboveClouds","d2020.8.7.0"
"0157","Helgen Reborn [SLE]","d2019.5.5.0"
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"0160","DollHouse photo Studio","0.0.0.0"
"0161","Aether Suite 3.9.0 Rus","d2019.9.11.0"
"0163","Fury's Song","d2019.5.5.0"
"0164","SWAT Knife","d2018.2.20.0"
"0165","KziitdFeitshSet-BdsmMaid","d2020.6.3.0"
"0166","Bunny Girl Latex edition V","d2021.3.24.0"
"0167","DX Witch Hunter Armor - UNP LE","1.0.0.0"
"0168","DX Succubus (Mazken) Armor - UNP LE","f1.01"
"0169","Angel+Armor+1.03","d2021.4.10.0"
"0170","Brazen Assassin Armor","d2021.4.12.0"
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"0172","DovahBling Jewelry -Rings - Necklaces - Bracelets-","1.5.3.0"
"0173","Armor&Clothes Combined Replacer UUNP",""
"0175","follwer Selina kyle","d2021.4.18.0"
"0176","Toccata Follower","1.3.0.0"
"0177","Luciver Ladies","3.0.0.0"
"0178","Demonic Creatures V1.4 Oldrim","d2021.5.27.0"
"0179","Demonic Creatures SE 1.5","d2021.8.16.0"
"0180","SKYGS NPC",""
"0182","ASLaL LE 1 2",""
"0183","More Devious Starts 1.05","d2021.8.4.0"
"0184","Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul","0.4.1.0a"
"0185","MMSO Patches Spring","d2021.4.2.0"
"0186","Maids II Deception - Mod Patches","5.1.5.1"
"0204","SkyTweak","7.14.0.0"
"0206","Luxury Collection Masterlist","d2020.10.18.0"
"0207","NoOverpenetration_1.0","d2021.3.27.0"
"0208","PSQ Perks","d2019.9.9.0"
"0209","SKYGS Fixes","d2019.3.25.0"
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"0211","PC Head Tracking and Voice","d2021.5.19.0"
"0212","ShowRaceMenu","d2019.3.19.0"
"0213","DAI Bard",""
"0214","DD Patches",""
"0215","DynDOLOD_Output DD Spring",""
"0216","EngRaceFix",""
"0217","TES Patches DD Spring Armor Replacer",""
"0218","BSA Loader","6.0.0.0"
"0219","Bashed Patch DD Spring",""
"0220","BDSM Set - RPG 7.0.4 Patch Ru",""
"0221","SGO3 fix for xpmse 4.32+","d2021.2.17.0"
"0222","idle","d2021.4.12.0"
"0223","Skyrim - Utility Mod","2.32.1.0"
"0224","Devious Devices - Equip","5.34.1.0"
"0226","Unified UNP Special","d2021.11.3.0"
"0227","DD UUNP BS",""
"0228","Naturalistic HDT Jiggle and Collision Set","3.68.0.0"
"0229","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended 4.80 HDT","4.80.0.0"
"0230","BakaFactory Animated Beasts Cocks 232 HDT","2.32.0.0"
"0231","Bodyslide Files UUNP",""
"0232","Demoniac v1.12 Full","1.12.0.0"
"0234","FNIS XXL Generate",""
"0235","FNIS Logs",""
"0236","MCM",""
"0237","TESEdit",""
"0238","Creation_Kit_1.9.32.0","d2019.10.29.0"
"0239","DLC Sources",""
 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2022 by comar-555

[Inte]

On 7/28/2022 at 1:25 PM, comar-555 said:

I have a very long problem with this suit. I went through many versions. I use the assembly from "Stas2503".

If you are using a custom version of it, you'll have to fix it yourself see my previous post.