[mod] [CK2] Dark World

[rustiyeti]

...so very odd.

 

The entire chain works, but only when piecemeal, so there must be a limitation on how long a chain can go in game, or how many branches and/or subbranches it can have.

 

Currently I have it working and stable where the encounter is triggered on the ten year pulse (50%), set within the DWWerewolf.txt events file and under .10000 - 15999 ID range.  You have the option of accepting or declining very much like Harley.

 

The *other* parts of the event I've set under their own .txt event file and namespace, and they too seem fully functional (the dominate targeted decision is pretty awesome - completely optional with a chance to give the orc the werewolf bitch modifier OR severely get your ass kicked and lose the orc) with one caveat:

 

The "has wroth/cruel/zealous" bloodrage event which was meant to prevent you from acquiring the orc at all is set on a yearly pulse to check because I frankly don't know how to tie that in any more efficiently.  I have manually triggered the event and it works through to completion perfectly, but actually *playing* the game does not seem to ever fire the yearly pulse.  It's not a condition error, because the yearly pulse triggers a hidden check to ensure the conditions apply before attempting to start the chain, and that executes flawlessly if manually executed (and fails to execute if the conditions do not apply).  Is there an inherent chance *not* to fire yearly pulse events?

 

Ultimately I'll keep it spread over the two event .txt files because - freaking sanity need not apply here - if I port the existing, working 'introduction' chain from the DWWerewolf.txt file over to the new event .txt file and rename the namespace IDs appropriately ...it freaking breaks.  I've now separated the 3 'arcs' of the event into 3 entirely distinct event chains fired from completely separate origins (yearly pulse, decade pulse, targeted decision) and yet if they all exist within the same namespace they will not work.  Bugger me...

 

Now to cropjob and assign new pictures to the event...

and then to add custom 'werewolf uses his bitches' for orcs...

and create orc custom portraiture akin to werewolf...

and add random orc events akin to Harley...

and eventually probably do the same for elves...

 

The modding bug has bitten me pretty hard O.o - but for those of you who like the WW content and would like it expanded, if Dew's cool with it I'd be glad to share.

 

 

 

 

[dewguru]

 

 

 

Bug: casting Immortality doesn't seem to cost any piety.

 

Are you 100% positive? I'm seeing it in the code. It doesn't take place when you click on the decision, but it takes place on the event that follows.

 

I am reasonably sure there's something buggy about the spell.

I'm 100% sure that it didn't cost me any piety to immortalise my kids, and that one of the newly-immortalised children has an unexplained -250 piety deficit.

I'm thinking it's the same bug as the Summon Tentacle spell had; where the cost was subtracted from the target/victim.

On a possibly-related note, the option to cast Immortality doesn't seem to appear until I have 450+ piety.

 

 

Yes it happens in my game as well

 

My own piety before the spell 3398 and after the spell 3398

The piety of the spelltarget before the spell 8,3 and after the spell -241,6

 

 

 

Bah. I see it. I'm guessing neither of you are seeing event DWSpells.23 then either. It looks like I'm missing a From in the dw_spell_decisions file. Around line 55, there should be a FROM in front of that character_event. Is the target even getting the immortal trait?

 

It looks like the way things are working out, that your target may be getting hit with the piety loss and you yourself are getting the immortality trait applied to you then.

[Yukinohki]

 

 

 

 

Bug: casting Immortality doesn't seem to cost any piety.

 

Are you 100% positive? I'm seeing it in the code. It doesn't take place when you click on the decision, but it takes place on the event that follows.

 

I am reasonably sure there's something buggy about the spell.

I'm 100% sure that it didn't cost me any piety to immortalise my kids, and that one of the newly-immortalised children has an unexplained -250 piety deficit.

I'm thinking it's the same bug as the Summon Tentacle spell had; where the cost was subtracted from the target/victim.

On a possibly-related note, the option to cast Immortality doesn't seem to appear until I have 450+ piety.

 

 

Yes it happens in my game as well

 

My own piety before the spell 3398 and after the spell 3398

The piety of the spelltarget before the spell 8,3 and after the spell -241,6

 

 

 

Bah. I see it. I'm guessing neither of you are seeing event DWSpells.23 then either. It looks like I'm missing a From in the dw_spell_decisions file. Around line 55, there should be a FROM in front of that character_event. Is the target even getting the immortal trait?

 

It looks like the way things are working out, that your target may be getting hit with the piety loss and you yourself are getting the immortality trait applied to you then.

 

 

The target becomes immortal and the target pays the piety, the check for having enough piety checks my character, so the target can get deep into the negative piety values.

No i don't see the DWSpells.23 event, the text from the event is new to me.

Maybe the target gets the narrative event, also it should not get it.

[Pantheress]

Couple of questions:

Will 'Futanize Other' and 'Awaken Whore' return as castable spells?

Can futas impregnate other women?

Was thinking of trying to start an Amazon kingdom, but without sustainable growth, that's not going to happen.

[azer126]

You know that having multiple kingdom/etc titles gives added prestige right? There's a reason to keep creating them, even if only one of them is your "primary" title. Destroying the others is kind of odd to me, and would penalize you.

 

That's sort of what it's intended as - it's meant to be another jewel in your crown, not the sole one, although you can use it as such if you like. It has a level of prestige equivalent to a kingdom title, but it's not tied to any national mythology or anything. You're founding a new Empire, and it has about as much pull as any other Empire title, in my mind.

 

Put another way, if you create the Empire of Britannia, and your religion is Lilithian, then in my mind, that's the Lilithian Empire, because history will consider the two to be analogous. The only thing that you'd be changing is the name - and really, you could do that with the "Found an Empire" decision, while using the religious kingdom title as your primary, I think.

 

 

It's only a roleplay mater. For me, temporal theocraty should be absolue and can't tolerate other "same rank jewels".

 

I know, the game is (a bit) harder in that way. But it's only balance the bonus given by DM (concelors and vassals are powerfull, loyal...). It's for building a gameplay proper to this religion, with his proper difficulties.

 

 

[tempgr]

I love this mod and I think you're doing fantastic work. I also love HIP. Unfortunately, the custom portraits don't work so well (at all) with HIP. I did some organizing and file removing, and I got them working together pretty well. I also had to edit the religion icon stuff. Either way, I'm glad I could get them to work together without too much work.

 

Also, I looked around in the game files and I can't find any way to create the Lilithan religious kingdom aside from selecting it from the religion window and creating it yourself. Is that how its supposed to be done? What about the other kingdoms?

 

If you want to play with HIP just install HIP with no CPR+ module it will work like a charm. I always play with HIP lately as CK+ mod have the portrait problem as well (but it's no modular so you can't disable the portraits) as I like the map and also allows me to start with shattered world and women equality succession enabled. It gives great play and allows for fast lillithian conversion (as i don't have the ruler designer dlc) though it does crazy maps mid to end game (due to poor hard-coded woman ruler marriages).

 

[Aliris]

 

 

Are you playing a female that has accepted the blessing of Lilith and have you advanced to at least the second stage? If not, then it is not intended for you to obtain the Lilithian faith.

 

 

Yep. Max level immortal succubus. I've already gotten the incubus lilith offers too. Yay taxes

 

 

You should get the visit from Lucifer offering you the opportunity to convert to Lilithian sometime following the 2nd Blood Moon ritual or so. If you turn him down, he'll ask again a certain amount of time later, but if you say no to that, then that's it, and you have to wait until you're playing another succubus.

[Aliris]

@dewguru One thing I'm noticing that I forgot, was to remove the gender restrictions on some of the minor titles for Lilithian, notably Master of the Blade, Master of the Bow, and Venerable Elder.

[deadman3747]

This is a really dumb question but I am new. I keep trying to download this mod but it always says "sorry, you don't have permission for this". In trying to find a solution for this problem i found a post that said something about archived posts vs. forums but i don't no what that means. Where do we download stuff? 

 

English is not my first language so I might be missing something simple.

[Tyrranus]

finally have way of life dlc... now to finally try this mod out

[encon]

So, is there a way to use Dark World's portraits AND the anime mod's for the rest of the characters?

[Tyrranus]

lol WOW... are ANY women faithful in this mod? lol

 

 

also how does a 21yr old vampire die of the flu? lol

 

 

fun additions to the game so far!

[Jack Archer]

lol WOW... are ANY women faithful in this

 

 

also how does a 21yr old vampire die of the flu? lol

 

 

fun additions to the game so far!

Chaste trait helps with the first issue.

 

The second issue can be chalked up as "forced garlic consumption to cure the flu "

[sybreal]

 

 

 

Are you playing a female that has accepted the blessing of Lilith and have you advanced to at least the second stage? If not, then it is not intended for you to obtain the Lilithian faith.

 

 

Yep. Max level immortal succubus. I've already gotten the incubus lilith offers too. Yay taxes

 

 

You should get the visit from Lucifer offering you the opportunity to convert to Lilithian sometime following the 2nd Blood Moon ritual or so. If you turn him down, he'll ask again a certain amount of time later, but if you say no to that, then that's it, and you have to wait until you're playing another succubus.

 

 

So I just realized there is a misunderstanding. I meant the KINGDOM title not the actual faith. as in k_lilith_head, k_lilith_east_head, and k_lilith_west_head. What I wanted to know was if there was a way to obtain any of these titles OTHER than going to the religion tab and selecting the title next to the empty circle showing no religious head, and then creating it from there. I did that. If there isn't another way, how can I make the other two kingdoms? I cant find the titles ingame.

 

[Aliris]

 

 

 

 

Are you playing a female that has accepted the blessing of Lilith and have you advanced to at least the second stage? If not, then it is not intended for you to obtain the Lilithian faith.

 

 

Yep. Max level immortal succubus. I've already gotten the incubus lilith offers too. Yay taxes

 

 

You should get the visit from Lucifer offering you the opportunity to convert to Lilithian sometime following the 2nd Blood Moon ritual or so. If you turn him down, he'll ask again a certain amount of time later, but if you say no to that, then that's it, and you have to wait until you're playing another succubus.

 

 

So I just realized there is a misunderstanding. I meant the KINGDOM title not the actual faith. as in k_lilith_head, k_lilith_east_head, and k_lilith_west_head. What I wanted to know was if there was a way to obtain any of these titles OTHER than going to the religion tab and selecting the title next to the empty circle showing no religious head, and then creating it from there. I did that. If there isn't another way, how can I make the other two kingdoms? I cant find the titles ingame.

 

 

 

You're not intended to be able to. The only reason they exist as separate titles is because the game can't differentiate otherwise and assign holy sites/etc. There's really only supposed to be one religion, "Lilithian". The holy sites are varied based on your culture, out of a list of ones that are important to Lilith - that's it. The intent with this is to be able to gain control of a few of them without having to go conquering halfway around the world. Only one regional variant is intended to ever exist in the game, and whichever does is the "one true version".

 

There isn't intended to be any other versions, no Eastern Orthodox Lilithism etc (hence why they all have the same name in the game). The only heresy is Luciferianism, i.e. the male dominant heretics.

 

I may at some point write up some "quest/crusade" events for the recapture of some of the other sites that aren't part of your regional flavor, similar to the events you get as Byzantium when you recapture lost Roman provinces, and award prestige/piety, but that hasn't been a priority thus far.

 

[sybreal]

 

 

You're not intended to be able to. The only reason they exist as separate titles is because the game can't differentiate otherwise and assign holy sites/etc. There's really only supposed to be one religion, "Lilithian". The holy sites are varied based on your culture, out of a list of ones that are important to Lilith - that's it. The intent with this is to be able to gain control of a few of them without having to go conquering halfway around the world. Only one regional variant is intended to ever exist in the game, and whichever does is the "one true version".

 

There isn't intended to be any other versions, no Eastern Orthodox Lilithism etc (hence why they all have the same name in the game). The only heresy is Luciferianism, i.e. the male dominant heretics.

 

I may at some point write up some "quest/crusade" events for the recapture of some of the other sites that aren't part of your regional flavor, similar to the events you get as Byzantium when you recapture lost Roman provinces, and award prestige/piety, but that hasn't been a priority thus far.

 

 

I see. Thanks for the clarification. I will be content with my slightly purple/pink flag thing. The soldier colors look like jesters.

[Aliris]

So I'm noticing that somehow I seem to have lost the options to make people immortal, and to do summoning rituals.

 

I'd already managed to summon all 3 of the known possibilities (orc male, orc female, angel) so I'm guessing I can't do that because of it.

 

However, even with a stage 7 succubus, with ~1000 piety, I don't see any option to make people immortal anymore.

 

Edit: And now it appears again - I'm not sure what changed.

[Tyrranus]

 

lol WOW... are ANY women faithful in this

 

 

also how does a 21yr old vampire die of the flu? lol

 

 

fun additions to the game so far!

Chaste trait helps with the first issue.

 

The second issue can be chalked up as "forced garlic consumption to cure the flu "

 

LOL was something for sure!

[dewguru]

So I'm noticing that somehow I seem to have lost the options to make people immortal, and to do summoning rituals.

 

I'd already managed to summon all 3 of the known possibilities (orc male, orc female, angel) so I'm guessing I can't do that because of it.

 

However, even with a stage 7 succubus, with ~1000 piety, I don't see any option to make people immortal anymore.

 

Edit: And now it appears again - I'm not sure what changed.

 

Were you in command of your troops? Since the spell changed to where you needed to be able to be present with your target, I added a requirement that your ruler not be away commanding troops when the spell is cast.

 

Outside of that, I can think of no other reason for it to not be showing up.

[codu]

hi new player I have a question how do you get  Lilithian religion 

[Disillusioned Gecko]

hi new player I have a question how do you get  Lilithian religion 

 

You become a succubus and advance to at least level 2 succubus and you should get an event to embrace the lilithan religion, wait to think about embracing it or refuse it and lose your succubus status and events.

[Aliris]

 

So I'm noticing that somehow I seem to have lost the options to make people immortal, and to do summoning rituals.

 

I'd already managed to summon all 3 of the known possibilities (orc male, orc female, angel) so I'm guessing I can't do that because of it.

 

However, even with a stage 7 succubus, with ~1000 piety, I don't see any option to make people immortal anymore.

 

Edit: And now it appears again - I'm not sure what changed.

 

Were you in command of your troops? Since the spell changed to where you needed to be able to be present with your target, I added a requirement that your ruler not be away commanding troops when the spell is cast.

 

Outside of that, I can think of no other reason for it to not be showing up.

 

 

That's probably it. I'll remember it next time and doublecheck.

 

Also - is there an event to make sure some of the 'racial types' breed true, i.e. if you cross an orc with an orc, or an elf with an elf? I noticed that some of them were having "human" children despite both parents being of that bloodline.

 

Question for others - I notice it won't let me give any title above Barony level to female holders as Lilithian. What setting needs to be changed to enable that in the religions file, because I'm guessing I missed one?

 

 

 

 

I see. Thanks for the clarification. I will be content with my slightly purple/pink flag thing. The soldier colors look like jesters.

 

 

Well, that's what happens when you put Harley in charge of your armies.

[zippy57]

Are the event characters supposed to spawn once per player character, or once per player character but only after the first version dies? Because I just got the event to give me Claire but the previous Claire from my last character is still alive, and it's rather confusing.

[centerflag982]

Couple of questions:

Will 'Futanize Other' and 'Awaken Whore' return as castable spells?

Can futas impregnate other women?

Was thinking of trying to start an Amazon kingdom, but without sustainable growth, that's not going to happen.

Aw, sad to hear those spells are gone (haven't grabbed a new version in like a month).

 

For your second question, at the moment no. I get the impression that's one of those things Guru will probably work on at some point but it's not on his "priority list," so to speak

[Yukinohki]

Are the event characters supposed to spawn once per player character, or once per player character but only after the first version dies? Because I just got the event to give me Claire but the previous Claire from my last character is still alive, and it's rather confusing.

 

Claire does not seem to be limited in any way.

She can also appear for AI Rulers.

I had a game, where i had a 50 year old and a 20 year old Claire at my court

and were fighting against a Duchess Claire who had a Count Claire as vassal.