Submissive Lola. Consensual D/S mod

[alexvkj]

Bug report: Asking for a spanking is consistently crashing my game when the scene tries to start. have a Papyrus log or two.

 

I attached the current build of 1.3 with Rydin's spanking and a fix for werewolf-collar (and some other stuff, look in readme). 

I don't have a test case for werewolf yet, could you do it for me please?

 

NSAP 3.0 is required. Rydin animations have to be activated

submissivelola-1.3-test.rar

[jaberwocky]

Suggestions and remark regarding to wrists binding.

 

Suggestion, prolonged wearing of the wrists bindings. To avoid (very) bad luck, you could consider a maximum of two or three different towns.

-> "return to a town and ask for your bindings to be removed".

-> "Mistress, we are there, can my bindings be removed?"

-> 75% "You have been a good pet, let me unbind you"

-> 25% "I actually like how you are displaying yourself right now, ask again when we reach the next town"

 

The wrists binding works better than in version 1.0, I even can't get into a fighting position. There is of course still the exception that after peeing, licking or spanking, the wrists are no longer bound. The solution is to remove/equip the bindings. I recall from other mods they have the same issue. But after the animation ended, the arms are getting bound again. I guess these mods might trigger the remove/equip event automatically, or just the equip-event. Not sure if that is the case, but you might be worthwhile to look into.

 

I noticed I can't ask my wrists to be unbound when inside Dragonreach or inside other buildings. I do not find this bothering whatsoever, I just noticed it.  Btw, in the meantime I got 'asked' to lick my owners boots with my hands on my back, and that animation looks nice

 

Lockable plug

 

What if (when submissive level gets higher) the pet is asked to wear a lockable plug? Given the possible sex scenes, an anal plug might be most suitable. This way, the owner can at random tease (or torment) their pet. If you wish (and tell me the image details required), I can try to create inventory images. I can imagine however that this might involve a lot of scripting knowledge.

 

Note, Dashe is/was busy creating these plugs for her own mod, see Dasha's Devious Toys

 

MCM menu

 

Not sure is you are planning (in the distant future) to create a MCM menu where players can turn on/off certain events. But when you do, instead of allowing all events to be turned on/off, you could also only allow 1 or 2 events to be turned off (at most). On the scale of loving, liking, disliking and hating events, people might be able to turn off the events they hate, but are still stuck with the events they dislike, as they should!

 

Not so fast

 

When an event triggers while the owner is far behind, a "not so fast" event can occur. I know you are planning to introduce "crawling", this might be the perfect reason for the owner to implement this rule. Another option is 'lockable slave boots', although that requires an additional dependency.

 

Buffs

 

-Lord Stone-

Nice to see the buffs in action! And I like the naming "safe word", it is chosen well! But as the Lord Stone seems like a strong improvement, perhaps this can be turned into a temporary buff, like "spanked bottom". I do not however know what action and/or animation might be suited. Perhaps the owner could make some "blessed water".

• First you need to give your owner an ingredient whose first alchemy effect is "weakness to frost", like "White Cap".
• Second your mistress requires some fluids.
  This could be pee, but personally prefer some other moist, produced when aroused. You could use one of the teasing animations, the ones you get to see when you are aroused but wear a chastity device.
• When the Mistress has the second ingredient, she will say:
  "This blessed water seems to be solidified by the cold, I guess I need another way to bless you with it. Now bend over".
• Afterwards you freeze as if you are hit by a an ice storm (frozen skin effect, slower movement and a drain in stamina). This effect will not last long. The blessing however will last for 8 hours.

Creating this might however be a lot of effort. Perhaps you or someone else can think of a better action and/or animation.

 

-Lover Stone-

I see you have worked around the undressing part of the spanking animation and I like the buff. Perhaps the text for "Spanked bottom" could be: "You have recently been spanked. This obedience training helps you to stay focused and learn faster."

 

-Zenithar and Dibella-

Another temporary buff could be "Tease and seduction" giving you the same blessing as Zenithar, 10% better prices. You might as well add Dibella's blessing, +10 in speech-craft. When you ask for it, you are ordered to dance (1 or 3 times) in front of a vendor (or innkeeper). 

 

-Julianos, Kynareth and Arkay-

I personally would like a more gradual improvement(more submissive, more buffs), but as you said, you use the ability of standing stones. But perhaps the blessings of Julianos, Kynareth and Arkay could be used instead, increasing Magicka, Stamina and Health with 25 points. Each blessing will come at a different submissive level. You could call the buffs "Sub space", although I think a better name might be out there. These buffs are less strong and perhaps more suited as semi-premanent buffs.

 

Arousal

 

What if your arousal level determines the amount of submissive increase you get from an event? And when you have a high submissiveness but low arousal, you could even loose a small bit of submissiveness? I imagine that with arousal level of 90 or higher, you get the maximum amount of submissive points. If a pet is more aroused, he/she is more likely to feel (sexual) obedient.

 

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I noticed I once again provided a lot of suggestions, more than you probably can handle in the near future. Perhaps I should just return to playing your mod.

 

[alexvkj]

Suggestions

 

1. Nothing "lockable" and nothing "devious" for now. Just taboo these words until it's time

 

2. Prolonged bound journey doesn't make much sense as you may simply fast travel or take a cart. But what if you ask your dom to reconsider if you drop half of you haul? I thought about checking the location if it's a dungeon or if it's cleared, but that idea I like much better

 

3. I hate the MCM's where you may configure everything (DCL for example). Looks like officially allowed cheating for me. No no, I better make some more global variables and publish a cheat list. If you want to cheat configure - do it in the console.

 

4. Buffs is a really new thing for me yet. I might say, I know already something about quest and dialogue design, but the spell part... Okay, whatever. I don't like the micromanagement of temporary buffs. For the spanked bottom it's okay, but not for everything. With the descriptions, I have to keep the texts short, otherwise Skyrim changes the font size to unreadable.

[jaberwocky]

1. Nothing "lockable" and nothing "devious" for now. Just taboo these words until it's time

 

2. Prolonged bound journey doesn't make much sense as you may simply fast travel or take a cart. But what if you ask your dom to reconsider if you drop half of you haul? I thought about checking the location if it's a dungeon or if it's cleared, but that idea I like much better

 

3. I hate the MCM's where you may configure everything (DCL for example). Looks like officially allowed cheating for me. No no, I better make some more global variables and publish a cheat list. If you want to cheat configure - do it in the console.

 

4. Buffs is a really new thing for me yet. I might say, I know already something about quest and dialogue design, but the spell part... Okay, whatever. I don't like the micromanagement of temporary buffs. For the spanked bottom it's okay, but not for everything. With the descriptions, I have to keep the texts short, otherwise Skyrim changes the font size to unreadable.

 

 

1: Which words?

 

2: Hmmm,... I usually do not fast-travel, thus I forgot about that possibility. You are able to disable fast-travel or carts as other mods have done, but that would involve a lot of scripting.

 

3: The benefit of MCM is that it allows players more variety of game play, and thus more people might find the mod suited for them. But I get your point as well. I tried to come up with something in the middle to fill that gap.

 

4: Do you like the three proposed benefits of having a high submissive (Julianos, Kynareth and Arkay), each at a different level of submissiveness? The Lord Stone blessing could be the grand buff for which you require a near maximum submissiveness, a level you can easily drop below.

 

Out of curiosity, do you like the idea behind "not so fast" and "arousal"?

 

Anyway, I am going back to testing v3.test

[alexvkj]

 

2: Hmmm,... I usually do not fast-travel, thus I forgot about that possibility. You are able to disable fast-travel or carts as other mods have done, but that would involve a lot of scripting.

 

3: The benefit of MCM is that it allows players more variety of game play, and thus more people might find the mod suited for them. But I get your point as well. I tried to come up with something in the middle to fill that gap.

 

4: Do you like the three proposed benefits of having a high submissive (Julianos, Kynareth and Arkay), each at a different level of submissiveness? The Lord Stone blessing could be the grand buff for which you require a near maximum submissiveness, a level you can easily drop below.

 

Out of curiosity, do you like the idea behind "not so fast" and "arousal"?

 

2. I personally use the mod Better Fast travel which adds additional carts and ships. And fast travel only in emergency (stuck in navmesh etc.). I'm also strongly against any hard impairements of the standard game features like this. In my vision of travel restriction as its implemented in 1.3 you may always fast travel, just not anywhere you want. And if you accidently did, you have a little time to fast travel back

 

4. 2nd threshold for the safeword-buff is fair enough. At this stage you're most likely in some armor restrictions, so I have to compensate. Besides, the Lord stone was my must-have blessing in vanilla game as I tend to play pretty reckless. With your additional slave duties there are many other things to worry about.

As for additional buffs for the future, I prefer the dragon priests masks.

 

"Not so fast" is nice, but I don't have an idea how to implement it reliably. As for arousal. I don't know yet.

[jaberwocky]

I have another idea, what if there is a 25% change that the owner will say "I like the way you are on display, why don't you go to a bar and ask the innkeeper to untie you." It is not a village to village run, but still adds to the "being exposed by your owner" experience.

 

As to the description of "spanked bottom", I try to let it make sense that having your bottom spanked increases learning ability. As the blessing already has the word "spanked", perhaps the description could be "You recently had some obedience taining and are now more focused. Learning is improved". Or will that phrase be too long as well?

 

As to "Not so fast", with reliable you mean knowing if the player is too far ahead of his/her mistress? Perhaps you could see if both player and mistress are running at the time the event occurs. Or just look if the player is sprinting (alt-running).

 

The "arousal" is partly meant to prevent the player masterbating all the time to avoid the negative effects of the "Lovers Desire" buff. After all, I do not think a pet should enjoy to orgasms all the time. A mistress would probably not approve, certainly not without permission.

 

Out of curiosity, when you played Skyrim vanilla, did you had a follower all the time? Note, I usually play as a mage and made enchanted jewelry to compensate for the lake of mage clothes. I must admit I also have a plug installed that allows up to three enchantment on an item.

 

On a side note, when I played locked in restraints that prevent armor, I discovered the usefullness of the conjuration school. In a sense, 'taboo word' has learned me to be better at Skyrim.

[alexvkj]

With a barkeeper it's definitely more interesting.

 

As for vanilla playthough, I always end up as a lone thief character with an insanely improved crossbow Didn't really played with followers before, mostly because there are so few interactions. With this mod I'm trying to change the last part and make a party gameplay more fun

[jaberwocky]

Sofia is a very nice follower with own spoken lines. But those lines do not always fit this mod well. Anyway, with a follower you already have a very big buff.

 

Before I forget, I just noticed that I was ordered to pee while just below submissiveness of 30 and with all my clothes on... while the owner says something like "as you are already naked..."

[jaberwocky]

NSAP, which version do you use? I use version 3a of NSAP for version 1.60 of sexlab.

Am I correct is I assume that you tested it with version 2.8.2 of NSAP?

 

At the moment I get crashes to desktop as soon as a spanking event occurs.

 

[alexvkj]

3a of course

is everything registered in MCM? fnis run? I didn't have any issues.

[jaberwocky]

Was just about to edit my post, I failed to: rtfm (read the fucking manual). The bottom is now tender and red as it's supposed to be.

 

-- in the manual --

• Wait for debug message to advise new version has been installed.
• Open Non SL Animations/NSAP in the MCM and select the animations you want (you must do this at the start of every upgrade).
• Open SexLab, go to the last menu "Rebuild & Clean" and select "Reset Animations Registry" to get the new animations.

[fiewiel]

I would also like to have a way to configure the mod to my liking. I dont care if its mcm, console or some ini file, any configuration way is fine. For example I will disable the part of the mod which will force me to leave a dungeon to unbind my wrists or whatever. Reason is that I do not use fast travel. Reaching a dungeon using a carriage/horse/walking costs me around 15 min, which would mean half an hour to get rid of any restraints and be back where it started. Which would trigger Genesis, which would mean another 10 min, IF I manage to survive.

It should be obvious that thats a big no.

 

[Guest Zentari2238]

The more options I'm given in a mod via mcm , the better . Mind you , it's not possible to control every little thing but general settings (max gold , encumbrance etc) ? I'm all over it . Heck , you can then start breaking things up ; want to be turned into a vampire ? want the daily gold quest to have a limit ? etc.  That way , if someone doesn't like it , they can simply turn it off / tune it down .

It's also way easier to change settings and safer too ->

"I changed the dom level and now it's crashing , HALP ! " -> "What did you changed it to ? " -> " 3.15 " -> " YOU DUMBASS!!!"

 

 

 

 

[alexvkj]

I would also like to have a way to configure the mod to my liking. I dont care if its mcm, console or some ini file, any configuration way is fine. For example I will disable the part of the mod which will force me to leave a dungeon to unbind my wrists or whatever. Reason is that I do not use fast travel. Reaching a dungeon using a carriage/horse/walking costs me around 15 min, which would mean half an hour to get rid of any restraints and be back where it started. Which would trigger Genesis, which would mean another 10 min, IF I manage to survive.

It should be obvious that thats a big no.

 

[steve Jobs mode on]

If you have problems with the wrist binder, you're playing that mod wrong. The event triggers only when you're over 80% of your carrying capacity. So pay attention of how much you loot and you'll be fine. You "configure" this feature with your behaviour.

[steve Jobs mode off]

 

There is just a thing in d/s, called topping from bottom - it's when a sub starts demanding something from dom, reducing the dom basically to a kind of his selfbondage assistant. No good. The same thing with this mod. You play it if you want to play submissive and have a dom in game. Otherwise go buy some items from Captured Dreams and play with them.

[jaberwocky]

Well, technically in d/s there are also limits and that has nothing to do with topping from the bottom. But a domme should be able to freely do the stuff a sub dislikes, just because the domme enjoys it. Even if the only reason is because the sub dislikes it and it gives the domme a thrill to do stuff to a sub he/she dislikes. And if the sub is truly submissive, the sub will still enjoy doing these things as the sub knows he/she is pleasing his/her domme. Anyway, that was the reason for my suggestion to be able to turn 1 (or at most 2) type of event off but no further fine-tuning.

 

In the meantime, alexvkj is building this mod. And I assume that when alex is working on features he likes, he will probably be more productive and have better end results than when he tries to build features he does not like. Also lets not forget, this is something that alexvkj is building in his own free time. And in a virtual world, limits (like being murdered) have less value.

[Yuni]

 

Bug report: Asking for a spanking is consistently crashing my game when the scene tries to start. have a Papyrus log or two.

 

I attached the current build of 1.3 with Rydin's spanking and a fix for werewolf-collar (and some other stuff, look in readme). 

I don't have a test case for werewolf yet, could you do it for me please?

 

NSAP 3.0 is required. Rydin animations have to be activated

 

 

Certainly, when I get some free time later today. =O What test care are we talking here? You mean being a werewolf and wearing it?

[alexvkj]

 

And in a virtual world, limits (like being murdered) have less value.

 

Not less, just different.

For example in a computer game there are no painful things. So I have to make use of some substitutes, and for painful I choose annoying. The creators of other mods often choose tedious which is not an option for me. Because tedious is not fun.

You know what I mean... like lock you in a 15 minute-scene where you can only look around and read subtitles.

 

As for the rest, I'm pretty cool with that kind of critics. I make this mod mostly for my own fun, so I choose to implement the fun things first. Messing around with DD or MCM isn't so much fun, so I don't this.

[VexyRage]

I just have to say, so far I'm really enjoying this mod, and especially the over-the-knee spanking animations/sounds

 

 

 

.... just a small suggestion, if it's possible, perhaps add a red hand print to the PC's ass after a spanking event...?  

 

Apologies if this suggestion has already been made ..

 

 

 

~ Vexy

[jaberwocky]

I just have to say, so far I'm really enjoying this mod, and especially the over-the-knee spanking animations/sounds

 

TESV 2015-10-22 13-36-09-77A.jpg  TESV 2015-10-22 14-20-50-66.jpg

 

.... just a small suggestion, if it's possible, perhaps add a red hand print to the PC's ass after a spanking event...?  

 

Apologies if this suggestion has already been made ..

 

 

 

~ Vexy

 

Hé, you wear shackles! Is that part of this mod? Cause if have not run into them yet...

With the 1.3 beta, so far the only problem I ran into so far is was peeing while still wearing clothes once.

 

alexvkj; Although officially version 1.3 is still beta, but could you give a glimpse of what might be added in version 1.4?

[Deadly Kitten]

 

 

And in a virtual world, limits (like being murdered) have less value.

 

Not less, just different.

For example in a computer game there are no painful things. So I have to make use of some substitutes, and for painful I choose annoying. The creators of other mods often choose tedious which is not an option for me. Because tedious is not fun.

You know what I mean... like lock you in a 15 minute-scene where you can only look around and read subtitles.

 

As for the rest, I'm pretty cool with that kind of critics. I make this mod mostly for my own fun, so I choose to implement the fun things first. Messing around with DD or MCM isn't so much fun, so I don't this.

 

 

 

 

For example in a computer game there are no painful things. So I have to make use of some substitutes, and for painful I choose annoying. The creators of other mods often choose tedious which is not an option for me. Because tedious is not fun.

 

>No painful things.

 

Not for long. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/30497-use-game-controller-as-vibrator/

 

This mod lets you hook up a shock device, if you have the TENS or other shock unit programmed for a sound input through a headphone jack. I'll have to find the link, but there is a ~100USD device that accepts a sound source as an input, which you can then hook up to any manner of shocking devices. And the "Vibrator" mod lets you output DD shock events to said device..... I can't wait to get one.

[VexyRage]

 

I just have to say, so far I'm really enjoying this mod, and especially the over-the-knee spanking animations/sounds

 

TESV 2015-10-22 13-36-09-77A.jpg  TESV 2015-10-22 14-20-50-66.jpg

 

.... just a small suggestion, if it's possible, perhaps add a red hand print to the PC's ass after a spanking event...?  

 

Apologies if this suggestion has already been made ..

 

 

 

~ Vexy

 

Hé, you wear shackles! Is that part of this mod? Cause if have not run into them yet...

With the 1.3 beta, so far the only problem I ran into so far is was peeing while still wearing clothes once.

 

alexvkj; Although officially version 1.3 is still beta, but could you give a glimpse of what might be added in version 1.4?

 

The shackles are from Zaira's Restraints, craftable at the forge with 1 iron ingot

 

I didn't know thre was version 1.3 Beta out yet 

*goes to look for it and download*

[alexvkj]

 

 

~ Vexy

Hé, you wear shackles! Is that part of this mod? Cause if have not run into them yet...

With the 1.3 beta, so far the only problem I ran into so far is was peeing while still wearing clothes once.

 

alexvkj; Although officially version 1.3 is still beta, but could you give a glimpse of what might be added in version 1.4?

 

 

Loot too much stuff and you will see

 

As for that 1.3 I uploaded here... I develop agile. That means, there is no alphabeta, just a normal new version every week or so. Which is also well tested and playable. The reported issues I just fix in the next release. That helps me keep the whole project easily manageable and deliver high quality product.

Yuni reported an issue with werewolf form which seemed to me critical and I cannot test it myself atm. So I gave a current build which I have on my test system The real 1.3 is done when it's released.

[jaberwocky]

 

Loot too much stuff and you will see

 

As for that 1.3 I uploaded here... I develop agile. That means, there is no alphabeta, just a normal new version every week or so. Which is also well tested and playable. The reported issues I just fix in the next release. That helps me keep the whole project easily manageable and deliver high quality product.

Yuni reported an issue with werewolf form which seemed to me critical and I cannot test it myself atm. So I gave a current build which I have on my test system The real 1.3 is done when it's released.

 

 

I assumed it was a beta version cause it had the word 'test'.

 

As to looting too much, I have already done that... it actually stimulates me to pass that threshold.

You are referring to the cuffs right? Cause I have not come across any other effect.

 

What features or upgrades in your backlog might you pick up during the next sprint? (should you have an idea and wish to share)

[Yuni]

 

 

Quoting here only to get your attention

 

 

OI! I'm ready to test your mod, but it takes a WHILE to get enough slavery submission points to ask for a spanken, and I have to do a clean save to upgrade it. Can you put in some debugging tools? Like the ability to set submission to a specific value in a debug tab, for people testing your mod?

[alexvkj]

 

 

OI! I'm ready to test your mod, but it takes a WHILE to get enough slavery submission points to ask for a spanken, and I have to do a clean save to upgrade it. Can you put in some debugging tools? Like the ability to set submission to a specific value in a debug tab, for people testing your mod?

 

 

set vkjsubmissionscore to XX

 

in the console