The next stage: The Witcher 3

[winny257]

for me is TW3, a huge flop, a huge disappointment. but that I already knew before the appear.

a huge amount of treasure hunts (visible question marks on the maps), for me unambiguously too little dialogues, for a new player who does not know the predecessor, it is difficult to understand history Geralt's!
to the other I miss the erotic in an adult game, for me it is a joke, with the amount of sex animations, it was written, more than 20 hours of video footage, where?
the only that there is, are 6 whores in "Novigrad brothel" and Triss, Yennefer, Keira and that was it!
since is yes in DAI more going, much more variety, sad for The Witcher.

 

edit: My conclusion, The Witcher 3 is the biggest disappointment of 2015

[trpd]

 

 

 

A word of Warning!!! Do not finish the main story, do all the side quests before it. If you do, you can find yourself in a very "sad" state, that will kill any desire to continue to play the game. If you want tot find out why, here is the main topic (contains Spoilers!!!) on official forums about it.

 

What did you expect? CDPR doesn't really care about immersion, or knows anything about it, whatever they've got snatched from another game. Remember the screen you get when you die in TW2? "Game Over"! What is this, a fucking arcade game?

 

 

 

"Game over" is a problem ? It is like saying that turning pages in book kills your immersion /faceplam . I won't look the spoiler but i fully expect that ending the story has impact on the world, maybe it is not even playable anymore as they ride towards rising sun or whatever. It is way more immersive then having main plot that doesn't impact the world in any way whatsoever.

 

 

 

for me is TW3, a huge flop, a huge disappointment. but that I already knew before the appear.

a huge amount of treasure hunts (visible question marks on the maps), for me unambiguously too little dialogues, for a new player who does not know the predecessor, it is difficult to understand history Geralt's!
to the other I miss the erotic in an adult game, for me it is a joke, with the amount of sex animations, it was written, more than 20 hours of video footage, where?
the only that there is, are 6 whores in "Novigrad brothel" and Triss, Yennefer, Keira and that was it!
since is yes in DAI more going, much more variety, sad for The Witcher.

 

edit: My conclusion, The Witcher 3 is the biggest disappointment of 2015

 

 

Geralt is done with amnesia at this point, if you are really that fresh then you should at the very least look up some story summaries. There are lots of dialogues , hunts are hunts those are just to provide some combat for those that like that over doing story.

Adult games are not about sex , it is just some extra. DAI certainly didn't have more of it, actually you only get to see nipples like twice in that game. Not sure what you got those 20h from i only heard about 16h spent in motion capture on the romance scenes - so that is not just banging but also kissing and stuff.

It is not ero game , if you belived it is you have been misled

[bjornk]

"Game over" is a problem ? It is like saying that turning pages in book kills your immersion /faceplam . 

 

The "Game Over" screen was a clear example of a mindset that doesn't care about immersion. Constantly reminding the player that this is a *game* is definitely the first thing a developer should avoid if he wishes to create immersion in a game. If you couldn't think of that, then you really shouldn't argue about the subject.

[Grine]

 

A word of Warning!!! Do not finish the main story, do all the side quests before it. If you do, you can find yourself in a very "sad" state, that will kill any desire to continue to play the game. If you want tot find out why, here is the main topic (contains Spoilers!!!) on official forums about it.

 

What did you expect? CDPR doesn't really care about immersion, or knows anything about it, whatever they've got snatched from another game. Remember the screen you get when you die in TW2? "Game Over"! What is this, a fucking arcade game?

 

 

could you name me another game that is immersive? I have a hard time thinking of one that outdid the witcher.

[Redflyingmonkey]

for me is TW3, a huge flop, a huge disappointment. but that I already knew before the appear.

a huge amount of treasure hunts (visible question marks on the maps), for me unambiguously too little dialogues, for a new player who does not know the predecessor, it is difficult to understand history Geralt's!

to the other I miss the erotic in an adult game, for me it is a joke, with the amount of sex animations, it was written, more than 20 hours of video footage, where?

the only that there is, are 6 whores in "Novigrad brothel" and Triss, Yennefer, Keira and that was it!

since is yes in DAI more going, much more variety, sad for The Witcher.

 

edit: My conclusion, The Witcher 3 is the biggest disappointment of 2015

 

Disagree on all accounts : 

 

You need to make some personal work to understand the story. I still have not read the books so I informed myself on some important events before playing. Also if you didn't play Witcher 1 & 2, you just need to catch up on the story a little bit. A bit stupid to be surprised that you don't follow the story of a book if you start at the 3rd one... There are a LOT of dialogues actually, and books, notes, conversations, bestiary and character biographies inside the game that inform you on pretty much anything you need to know. 

 

Treasure hunts are the bonus of the bonus. Side quests are the best ones I've seen in any games, DA-I included, and the treasure hunts are only here to help you get some bonus levels. And I don't really see how they could have done it different, I mean it is still 2015 so they can't fit another 1000 hour of cut scene for each point of interest in the map ... 

 

9 sex scenes is 9 times more than most other "adult RPGs". I agree, could use some more sex, but it's not a porn game, so you can't really hate CDPR for this. 

 

Can't believe you dislike treasure hunts in Witcher and like the dumb fetching quests in DAI. I like DAI, but "grab 10 herbs", "kill 10 goats", "grab 10 iron ores" is fucking dumb compared to finding a corpse in the wild in TW3, reading his last words and finding what killed him and the chest hiding there. DAI had spaces with nothing happening at all. The Hissing Wastes for example, or the Western Approach, you could ride 10 minutes in the desert without seeing shit.

 

Both are good games imho, and you can hate TW3 if you want, just do it for logical reasons lol 

[Morra]

 

 

 

A word of Warning!!! Do not finish the main story, do all the side quests before it. If you do, you can find yourself in a very "sad" state, that will kill any desire to continue to play the game. If you want tot find out why, here is the main topic (contains Spoilers!!!) on official forums about it.

 

What did you expect? CDPR doesn't really care about immersion, or knows anything about it, whatever they've got snatched from another game. Remember the screen you get when you die in TW2? "Game Over"! What is this, a fucking arcade game?

 

 

 

"Game over" is a problem ? It is like saying that turning pages in book kills your immersion /faceplam . I won't look the spoiler but i fully expect that ending the story has impact on the world, maybe it is not even playable anymore as they ride towards rising sun or whatever. It is way more immersive then having main plot that doesn't impact the world in any way whatsoever.

 

I'm sorry, but did you actually read what I'm talking about? Did you read the the main topic on official forums? Did you understand why are people complaining? The point is that with this return to the hollow world after the main quest it's an immersion killer. They could have done it like in Fallout New Vegas, where you are back before the last decision or just not give you any return at all and show you the main menu. They could have done what Bethesda did in Skyrim, play the sandbox after main story and do not delete any characters from the world and go explorer and do the side quests all you want.

[trpd]

 

 

 

"Game over" is a problem ? It is like saying that turning pages in book kills your immersion /faceplam . 

 

The "Game Over" screen was a clear example of a mindset that doesn't care about immersion. Constantly reminding the player that this is a *game* is definitely the first thing a developer should avoid if he wishes to create immersion in a game. If you couldn't think of that, then you really shouldn't argue about the subject.

 

 

 

Nope it is just nitpicking at something that doesn't matter a slightest bit. In menu you got enough terminology to be aware it is a game. Maybe also expecting to replace "Save game " with "remember your jurnery" or something?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A word of Warning!!! Do not finish the main story, do all the side quests before it. If you do, you can find yourself in a very "sad" state, that will kill any desire to continue to play the game. If you want tot find out why, here is the main topic (contains Spoilers!!!) on official forums about it.

 

What did you expect? CDPR doesn't really care about immersion, or knows anything about it, whatever they've got snatched from another game. Remember the screen you get when you die in TW2? "Game Over"! What is this, a fucking arcade game?

 

 

 

"Game over" is a problem ? It is like saying that turning pages in book kills your immersion /faceplam . I won't look the spoiler but i fully expect that ending the story has impact on the world, maybe it is not even playable anymore as they ride towards rising sun or whatever. It is way more immersive then having main plot that doesn't impact the world in any way whatsoever.

 

I'm sorry, but did you actually read what I'm talking about? Did you read the the main topic on official forums? Did you understand why are people complaining? The point is that with this return to the hollow world after the main quest it's an immersion killer. They could have done it like in Fallout New Vegas, where you are back before the last decision or just not give you any return at all and show you the main menu. They could have done what Bethesda did in Skyrim, play the sandbox after main story and do not delete any characters from the world and go explorer and do the side quests all you want.

 

 

Like i said i won't spoil myself the ending. However i can't imagine any ending that impacts the world as unimmersive. Maybe it sux, is not fun to see your world hollow or whatever - but it does not break immersion. Unless the world state does not reflect the events that happened that is. I never cared about main story in skyrim ever, it doesn't do anything it is the least imemrsive story period.

[...0...]

For me The Witcher 3 is great game i still enjoy it almost 100 hours now it's in its vanilla stage way better then skyrim ever was.

 

Have friend also playing at same time around 100 hours and think the same as me he even rate it higher.

 

I don't see all the negativity some here seems to experience.

 

Only thing maybe that you constantly play with Geralt which i must say is not my favorite i rather play with female character.

 

But story wise and how IMMERSIVE this world is plus one BEST CITY'S ive seen in last 15 years NIVOGRAD im impressed.

 

Dungeon some look so GOOD but lack of mobs and memorable encounters is also little dissapointing.

 

Sailing with boat is also great fun exploring finding secrets is as in Skyrim alot fun.

 

I absolutely don't understand the negative from some it's as if they not played it or rushed through the game on easy come to end and then say is its bad game bah

 

It's very immersive TW3 compare to Skyrim which is joke only mods have saved that game for me or would have abandon it before i reach 50 hours gameplay.

 

Still after almost 100 hours Vanilla TW3 9/10(if mods REDkit arrived prolly rating go up as with Skyrim which was vanilla 7/10)

 

The Witcher 3: One of best game released in Years KUDO'S to CD Project thanks!

[Redflyingmonkey]

Wait wait wait, we're going full retard and it's gonna turn into an argument soon enough. 

Get pissed at this piece of shit instead. I mean god fucking hell, it's like you can't create characters nowadays without fearing the femi-nazi crowds, how in the fuck is that bitch surprised that piss poor peasant thugs living in the boonies, whose ancestors bred between cousins for generations, are shouting terms like "whore" or "bitch" to Ciri when they're fighting her ? I mean for fuck sake, what does the dumb hoe want to hear ?! "Hey you, delicate white flower, Imma kill you !" ?? 

 

 

[Grine]

Wait wait wait, we're going full retard and it's gonna turn into an argument soon enough. 

 

Get pissed at this piece of shit instead. I mean god fucking hell, it's like you can't create characters nowadays without fearing the femi-nazi crowds, how in the fuck is that bitch surprised that piss poor peasant thugs living in the boonies, whose ancestors bred between cousins for generations, are shouting terms like "whore" or "bitch" to Ciri when they're fighting her ? I mean for fuck sake, what does the dumb hoe want to hear ?! "Hey you, delicate white flower, Imma kill you !" ?? 

 

 

 

She is doing what Ann Colter is doing. She cannot attract an audience TO MAKE MONEY from her regular message to attract feminists, that gravy train left long ago. So she attracts an audience TO MAKE MONEY by pissing off both girl gamers and male gamers and once in a while you will find the two dozen retards that actually agree with her which again translates into MONEY!

[bjornk]

Nope it is just nitpicking at something that doesn't matter a slightest bit. In menu you got enough terminology to be aware it is a game. Maybe also expecting to replace "Save game " with "remember your jurnery" or something?

 

I didn't give that example because it mattered, but it is a simple indication of the developer's mindset. "Game Over" is a screen that keeps showing up every time you die, unlike save, load, settings and any other game menu that you use only if you want to. And yes, I'd prefer "record/remember your journey" to "save/load game".

[Grine]

 

Nope it is just nitpicking at something that doesn't matter a slightest bit. In menu you got enough terminology to be aware it is a game. Maybe also expecting to replace "Save game " with "remember your jurnery" or something?

 

I didn't give that example because it mattered, but it is a simple indication of the developer's mindset. "Game Over" is a screen that keeps showing up every time you die, unlike save, load, settings and any other game menu that you use only if you want to. And yes, I'd prefer "record/remember your journey" to "save/load game".

 

 

I am still waiting for you to point out a more immersive game than witcher 3 in the same medieval, open world setting.

[bjornk]

 

could you name me another game that is immersive? I have a hard time thinking of one that outdid the witcher.

 

 

Outdid The Witcher?! Heh, if you think that The Witcher series are immersive games then there's no fucking point in arguing.

 

 

I am still waiting for you to point out a more immersive game than witcher 3 in the same medieval, open world setting.

 

How about Gothic series? Or Skyrim with mods.

 

[Redflyingmonkey]

I think there should be a stupidity threshold on mass media outlets like Youtube or Twitter, for those whose accounts are directly linked to their bank accounts. Like a special algorithm that would calculate the amount of bullshit, and once it's above a certain number, the account gets burned automatically. What a grand world we would live in then. 

[Grine]

 

 

could you name me another game that is immersive? I have a hard time thinking of one that outdid the witcher.

 

 

Outdid The Witcher?! Heh, if you think that The Witcher series are immersive games then there's no fucking point in arguing.

 

 

So in your opinion what is the most immersive game in sci-fi fantasy today.

Third time I am asking this question.

[...0...]

 

 

Nope it is just nitpicking at something that doesn't matter a slightest bit. In menu you got enough terminology to be aware it is a game. Maybe also expecting to replace "Save game " with "remember your jurnery" or something?

 

I didn't give that example because it mattered, but it is a simple indication of the developer's mindset. "Game Over" is a screen that keeps showing up every time you die, unlike save, load, settings and any other game menu that you use only if you want to. And yes, I'd prefer "record/remember your journey" to "save/load game".

 

 

I am still waiting for you to point out a more immersive game than witcher 3 in the same medieval, open world setting.

 

 

He can't he hates TW3 probably fan of other games and as so many sites on the internet they come to forums with there negative attitudes spread lies and nonsens based on bullshit sad thing they love it(steam is even worse place for this, with people spread crap based on nothing)

 

[Grine]

 

 

I am still waiting for you to point out a more immersive game than witcher 3 in the same medieval, open world setting.

 

How about Gothic series? Or Skyrim with mods.

 

 

Gothic Series? Never heard about them.

do you mean THIS? It looks like shit...

 

Skyrim is good with its age but the cities are so small, the villages are like 2 houses and no one says anything, they are all silently standing until you passby.

And I am glad you said mods, lets wait and see what witcher 3 with mods is like. I play both Skyrim and Witcher so I think I know what I am talking about... does Solitude or Windhelm compare to Novigrad? no... they dont...

 

Unless you give me examples in how Skyrim is outdoing Witcher I will consider your claim but so far you offer nothing.

[bjornk]

 

 

 

Nope it is just nitpicking at something that doesn't matter a slightest bit. In menu you got enough terminology to be aware it is a game. Maybe also expecting to replace "Save game " with "remember your jurnery" or something?

 

I didn't give that example because it mattered, but it is a simple indication of the developer's mindset. "Game Over" is a screen that keeps showing up every time you die, unlike save, load, settings and any other game menu that you use only if you want to. And yes, I'd prefer "record/remember your journey" to "save/load game".

 

 

I am still waiting for you to point out a more immersive game than witcher 3 in the same medieval, open world setting.

 

 

He can't he hates TW3 probably fan of other games and as so many sites on the internet they come to forums with there negative attitudes spread lies and nonsens based on bullshit sad thing they love it(steam is even worse place for this, with people spread crap based on nothing)

 

 

 

I don't hate TW3, but I'm not an idiot fanboy like yourself.

[Redflyingmonkey]

 

 

I am still waiting for you to point out a more immersive game than witcher 3 in the same medieval, open world setting.

 

 Skyrim with mods.

 

 

Lol. Literally, lol. Thank you, they say laughing does a wonder for your skin 

 

By the way I completely understand it if you don't like a game and want to share your reasons why you don't like it. If your opinion makes me laugh though, you can't blame me for it I'm just reacting as you do. 

[Grine]

 

 

 

 

Nope it is just nitpicking at something that doesn't matter a slightest bit. In menu you got enough terminology to be aware it is a game. Maybe also expecting to replace "Save game " with "remember your jurnery" or something?

 

I didn't give that example because it mattered, but it is a simple indication of the developer's mindset. "Game Over" is a screen that keeps showing up every time you die, unlike save, load, settings and any other game menu that you use only if you want to. And yes, I'd prefer "record/remember your journey" to "save/load game".

 

 

I am still waiting for you to point out a more immersive game than witcher 3 in the same medieval, open world setting.

 

 

He can't he hates TW3 probably fan of other games and as so many sites on the internet they come to forums with there negative attitudes spread lies and nonsens based on bullshit sad thing they love it(steam is even worse place for this, with people spread crap based on nothing)

 

 

 

I don't hate TW3, but I'm not an idiot fanboy like yourself.

 

 

And yet you refuse to back up your claims with proper arguments and information.

Yes... idiot fanboy indeed...

 

[bjornk]

 

Gothic Series? Never heard about them.

do you mean THIS? It looks like shit...

 

 

 

Of course you haven't heard about it. Bet you haven't played the first two Witcher games either. Yet you think you're qualified enough to argue with me. You see, this is a common problem with fanboys.

[Grine]

 

 

Gothic Series? Never heard about them.

do you mean THIS? It looks like shit...

 

 

 

Of course you haven't heard about it. Bet you haven't played the first two Witcher games either. Yet you think you're qualified enough to argue with me. You see, this is a common problem with fanboys.

 

 

I see a trend here.

Let me walk you through how people debate because obviously you lack the basic skills.

So first you claim "Witcher 3 is not immersive because the cities are completely missing X"

You go on to further say that "In Gothic series this is a much better because they implemented X"

 

I would then go on to say that "Witcher 3 may not have X, or at least to your degree but it does have Y, something completely missing from 2011 game known as Arcanania:Fall of Setarrif, part of the Gothic Series which has a 2/5 on meta critic and 5/10 on steam."

Which will completely and utterly destroy your argument about the Gothic series. Which brings us to a Witcher 3 and Skyrim comparison where I will be more equipped to destroy your arguments if you had the courage to voice them.

 

Need I go on?

[trpd]

I will alert to not be offensive . no need to cause work for mods.

 

I did play Gothic back in the day (1&2, 3 was bad) , i remember liking the survival aspect of the world. However it was just barely cRPG and was nowhere near scope of W3.

 

Skyrim with mods - elusive way of saying that Skyrim wasn't exactly immerisve. And when it comes to mods it all depands if you have mods that suit your needs or not.

 

[Morra]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A word of Warning!!! Do not finish the main story, do all the side quests before it. If you do, you can find yourself in a very "sad" state, that will kill any desire to continue to play the game. If you want tot find out why, here is the main topic (contains Spoilers!!!) on official forums about it.

 

What did you expect? CDPR doesn't really care about immersion, or knows anything about it, whatever they've got snatched from another game. Remember the screen you get when you die in TW2? "Game Over"! What is this, a fucking arcade game?

 

 

 

"Game over" is a problem ? It is like saying that turning pages in book kills your immersion /faceplam . I won't look the spoiler but i fully expect that ending the story has impact on the world, maybe it is not even playable anymore as they ride towards rising sun or whatever. It is way more immersive then having main plot that doesn't impact the world in any way whatsoever.

 

I'm sorry, but did you actually read what I'm talking about? Did you read the the main topic on official forums? Did you understand why are people complaining? The point is that with this return to the hollow world after the main quest it's an immersion killer. They could have done it like in Fallout New Vegas, where you are back before the last decision or just not give you any return at all and show you the main menu. They could have done what Bethesda did in Skyrim, play the sandbox after main story and do not delete any characters from the world and go explorer and do the side quests all you want.

 

 

Like i said i won't spoil myself the ending. However i can't imagine any ending that impacts the world as unimmersive. Maybe it sux, is not fun to see your world hollow or whatever - but it does not break immersion. Unless the world state does not reflect the events that happened that is. I never cared about main story in skyrim ever, it doesn't do anything it is the least imemrsive story period.

 

You still don't get it. I'm not talking about the ending itself, I'm talking what happens after it. After you are done with the main story, they will let you go back in the world where you can finish your side quests. The problem is that the world you get is stripped of practically every character that makes it alive. When you will finish the game, you will see what I'm talking about. Before you finish your main story, I advise you to do the side quests, beacuse I don't think you will want to do them in an empty world.

 

[Grine]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A word of Warning!!! Do not finish the main story, do all the side quests before it. If you do, you can find yourself in a very "sad" state, that will kill any desire to continue to play the game. If you want tot find out why, here is the main topic (contains Spoilers!!!) on official forums about it.

 

What did you expect? CDPR doesn't really care about immersion, or knows anything about it, whatever they've got snatched from another game. Remember the screen you get when you die in TW2? "Game Over"! What is this, a fucking arcade game?

 

 

 

"Game over" is a problem ? It is like saying that turning pages in book kills your immersion /faceplam . I won't look the spoiler but i fully expect that ending the story has impact on the world, maybe it is not even playable anymore as they ride towards rising sun or whatever. It is way more immersive then having main plot that doesn't impact the world in any way whatsoever.

 

I'm sorry, but did you actually read what I'm talking about? Did you read the the main topic on official forums? Did you understand why are people complaining? The point is that with this return to the hollow world after the main quest it's an immersion killer. They could have done it like in Fallout New Vegas, where you are back before the last decision or just not give you any return at all and show you the main menu. They could have done what Bethesda did in Skyrim, play the sandbox after main story and do not delete any characters from the world and go explorer and do the side quests all you want.

 

 

Like i said i won't spoil myself the ending. However i can't imagine any ending that impacts the world as unimmersive. Maybe it sux, is not fun to see your world hollow or whatever - but it does not break immersion. Unless the world state does not reflect the events that happened that is. I never cared about main story in skyrim ever, it doesn't do anything it is the least imemrsive story period.

 

You still don't get it. I'm not talking about the ending itself, I'm talking what happens after it. After you are done with the main story, they will let you go back in the world where you can finish your side quests. The problem is that the world you get is stripped of practically every character that makes it alive. When you will finish the game, you will see what I'm talking about. Before you finish your main story, I advise you to do the side quests, beacuse I don't think you will want to do them in an empty world.

 

 

 

What I did, was save the game before the last battle and some major events and count that as my end game. I have already unlocked all the major armors and side quests and I will leave the final parts of the main questline undone. You so I can do them whenever I please.

I also saved the game before Ugly baby questline so I can change the world in anyway I see fit.

I suggest you do the same, imo, the end game should have brought you back before the last battle with the option of redoing it because the game must end categorically afterwards.

The expansions, I will view them like any other extra secondary quests you come across through out the game.

Its not ideal but *shrug* its the best alternative.