Sexout Tryout

[NicoleDragoness]

Thanks..

 

Continuining the "Have it your way" Loogie's quest I can say that:

 

 

1. The Sexout Soliciting by Odessa part in Vikki&Vance will be broken because all original vanilla NPCs (males) inside are removed and replaced by NPCs from Loogie's mod. This deletes the appropriate dialogues for Soliciting.

 

2. Even if I accept to whore myself in the V&V, the PGs still ask for free sex ( or rape me if I refuse). I don't like this. I didn't try but I suspect that they could enslave me anyway if I still refuse to offer my body. This is counter Fiambe's assertion about to not enslave "friends".

 

3. Fiambe's request to kill NCR troops outside Primm leads to very bad situations in the rest of the game (main quest and so on). It would be much better to have an option to "lie" to Fiambe about this and then help NCR to regain control of Primm. "Option", of course. If someone would be evil, so is.

It's like Sergeant McGee option with the NCRCF.

 

4. Considering point #3, better to have Primm's men jailed somewhere, maybe with a quest to rescue them.

 

5. Another option could be to kill Fiambe and his men and the player will be the new "Madame" of V&V Whore Center, with the "blessing" of NCR.

Only a suggestion.

 

 

 

In the end, I deleted about 30 savegames, returning back from more than 12 hours of gameplay, because I did the wrong choice while I helped Fiambe.

[panthercom]

 I had the exact same behavior.

 

 

I will investigate reports of people not getting their stuff back at NCRCF and Vault 19 being broken again tomorrow when I have time. If someone else could confirm or deny these reports that would be helpful.

 

Not sure what other people are saying is wrong with 19, but in my experience (with the latest versions of NG and Tryout as of yesterday) I can't seem to do much after being "captured" inside the vault.  I wake up, am told by Epstein that I'm working for him and then after talking back to him--and being "punished"--I'm pretty much free to pick the lock and use my Science skill on the monitor (NICE pics...I need more things like that in the game...).  Eventually he'll tell me to get some sleep, so after using the bed once I'm handed over to one of the customers.  After that if I use the bed again I risk waking up to find Epstein is no longer there and I'm left alone in the room with other customers who don't give me any options to "work".

 

 

[Loogie]

 

Continuining the "Have it your way" Loogie's quest I can say that:

 

 

1. The Sexout Soliciting by Odessa part in Vikki&Vance will be broken because all original vanilla NPCs (males) inside are removed and replaced by NPCs from Loogie's mod. This deletes the appropriate dialogues for Soliciting.

 

2. Even if I accept to whore myself in the V&V, the PGs still ask for free sex ( or rape me if I refuse). I don't like this. I didn't try but I suspect that they could enslave me anyway if I still refuse to offer my body. This is counter Fiambe's assertion about to not enslave "friends".

 

3. Fiambe's request to kill NCR troops outside Primm leads to very bad situations in the rest of the game (main quest and so on). It would be much better to have an option to "lie" to Fiambe about this and then help NCR to regain control of Primm. "Option", of course. If someone would be evil, so is.

It's like Sergeant McGee option with the NCRCF.

 

4. Considering point #3, better to have Primm's men jailed somewhere, maybe with a quest to rescue them.

 

5. Another option could be to kill Fiambe and his men and the player will be the new "Madame" of V&V Whore Center, with the "blessing" of NCR.

Only a suggestion.

 

 

 

In the end, I deleted about 30 savegames, returning back from more than 12 hours of gameplay, because I did the wrong choice while I helped Fiambe.

 

 

 

 

2. They can't outright enslave you at the NCRCF, but I see what you mean. I'll add an exclusion for the cell.

3. Primm is a lot cause at this point. You can kill the PGs instead of choosing to go along with the quest - that's one of the beautiful things about Fallout. You can also choose to ignore the quest.  This quest is actually a springboard for more quests in the future.  There aren't enough reasons in the vanilla game to go against the NCR, and I hope to change that to some degree.

4. If what you're saying about Odessa's mod is the case, keeping those guys alive in any capacity if you support the PGs will lead to more issues between Tryout and her her mod, not less. I'm not trying to step on anything else anyone has done - I'm just providing an alternate option.

5. While that's interesting, all the women in V&V are sex slaves and were regular people before that. Once their oppressors are dead, they'd have no interest in continuing, and the NCR would never condone a town known to be keeping slaves.

 

 

The bug of naked and stuck companions and NPCs appeared also inside Bison Steve Casino with Primm's PG.

So then, it appears with almost every Tryout sections EXCEPT Working Girl.

 

Maybe you could take a look at the WG code and check the differences with the other parts?

 

Second:

I confirm that the Sunny's dialogue "Joe Cobb wants I bring you to NCRCF" appears even with Joe Cobb already dead and PG defeated in Goodspring.

(Quest "gunfight in Goodspring" finished siding the good boys. Btw, I let the GS's people do the hard work while I'm was hiding elsewhere so I maintained my reputation with the PGs).

 

I'll get the Sunny fixed thing fixed, 100%, for sure, today.

 

As for the naked and stuck companions, this is a problem with Sexout Pride and I are still trying to pin down. The WG code and the main Tryout code are the same in this regard - I basically just copy and pasted that part of the Working Girl scanner.

 

 

 

 

Not sure what other people are saying is wrong with 19, but in my experience (with the latest versions of NG and Tryout as of yesterday) I can't seem to do much after being "captured" inside the vault.  I wake up, am told by Epstein that I'm working for him and then after talking back to him--and being "punished"--I'm pretty much free to pick the lock and use my Science skill on the monitor (NICE pics...I need more things like that in the game...).  Eventually he'll tell me to get some sleep, so after using the bed once I'm handed over to one of the customers.  After that if I use the bed again I risk waking up to find Epstein is no longer there and I'm left alone in the room with other customers who don't give me any options to "work".

 

 

I'll look into this.

 

 

A separate issue is that none of the devices in the room seem to work properly.  I don't seem to be aligned well at all for the kneeling stockade and my character doesn't appear in the other two at all during their respective sequences...the customers are just air-humping or swinging a crop at nothing.  I'm not sure if I'm supposed to have the Zaz esp checked or not in FOMM, but I've tried both with the same result.

 

 

That's an issue with animation alignments in Sexout.

 

 

A third issue is that if I leave the room in search of Epstein (after sleeping and waking to find him missing), I find him in the cafeteria area and he tells me to get back in the room "or else".  If I tell him to go fuck himself he gives me aggressive dialogue as if he's about to attack, but then doesn't.

 

 

I'll fix it. Sounds like a problem with the SexoutSlavery plugin, but I can work around it.

 

 

Fourth, and this is for Vault 3, I can't seem to get my stuff back after having sex with Motor-Runner.  He'll use me initially and then a second time if I talk to him again, but after that I'm not given any new dialogue options for him or any means to retrieve my stuff and nobody else in the vault appears to be interested in me.  Not exactly what he promised me would happen before we started our relationship...the bastard.

 

 

Turn off rape KOs in the Sexout options and it should be smooth sailing. This issue has been around forever and I haven't been able to find a satisfactory fix because of the way he's glued to that goddamn chair.

[Loogie]

I've solved the bugs in the changelog. Why the player isn't getting whipped still eludes me.

 

Vault 19 currently has a lot more sex scenes than previously. In the future I plan on adding a gameplay mechanic to change the duration of your time there. There are multiple ways to escape, which is actually a useful feature now that it lasts as long as it should.

 

I ran through NCRCF and got all my and my companion's equipment back fine, I'm not sure what the problem the guy reporting him not getting his stuff back was experiencing.  If for some reason you experience this problem, all your equipment is in a footlocker on the upper floor of the admin building. Exact location in the spoiler, as it's part of the sneaky escape path.

 

 

 

There is a locked door diagonally across the hall from Eddie's office. Once you open it, the footlocker is immediately to your right.

 

[questionaccount]

This bug is so old I forgot about it.

 

So, is there a way to fix it or will I have to improvise?

[Loogie]

I'll work on it. There's nothing to improvise - they just don't have conditions that let them speak dialog.

[nurvy]

I encountered the NCRCF bug as well. I was playing as a male and the option was prefaced by [Ladykiller]

 

[Loogie]

I encountered the NCRCF bug as well. I was playing as a male and the option was prefaced by [Ladykiller]

 

You mean the bug where two PGs try to fuck a female companion simultaneously?

[nurvy]

The bug with Sunny's Walk of Shame after having defended Goodsprings and putting a bullet in Joe Cobb's head.

[Loogie]

What did the line of dialog actually say? The only [Lady Killer] option is an option to recruit her normally if you help Goodsprings.

[nurvy]

Somewhere along the lines of [Ladykiller] Joe Cobb told me to escort you to NCRCF.

[Loogie]

I accidentally over-wrote the standard Lady Killer and Cherch La Femme options with dialog about the NCRCF. Update incoming. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

 

EDIT: I just updated the Sunny Companion file, nothing else.

[spoonsinger]

I accidentally over-wrote the standard Lady Killer and Cherch La Femme options with dialog about the NCRCF. Update incoming. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

 

EDIT: I just updated the Sunny Companion file, nothing else.

 

Just tried Sunny.

 

Test sequence :-

 

Talk to Sunny

Walk outside and tell tell lollipop bloke to f**k off. (not really anything to do with this - but just for the sequence).

Shoot bottles

Decline Tutorial

Go In Tavern

Follow Cobb

Shoot him in the head

Back to Sunny and have a chat. No NCRCF prison option on subsequent conversation list.

 

So Yeh!!!!  or crap I need a 35 on speech to get her - depending on stats/proclivities. Currently going for small framed alcoholic, (which is a tad interesting), so need backup.

 

[Loogie]

(Evil voice) Good, good.

 

Also just fixed some bugs that have been plaguing Tryout forever, long before the combined release, so soon the prophecy will be complete.

[NicoleDragoness]

(Very, very, very sexy voice) ... Good, Good.

[LouiseH]

Just tried Vault 19 - all seemed to work fine for me, except when I was supposed to be secured in the machine in the far corner from the door. During those sequences I was free to run around whilst a PG customer gave thin air a damned fine thrashing! Apart from that it ran brilliantly-thank you for all your work that's gone into a great mod.

[Loogie]

I still can't pin that error down. The only difference between that and when a companion is whipped is the ppayer's name is in the whipping slot in the script.

[nurvy]

I accidentally over-wrote the standard Lady Killer and Cherch La Femme options with dialog about the NCRCF. Update incoming. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

 

EDIT: I just updated the Sunny Companion file, nothing else.

 

No problem. I really enjoy this mod, good work.

[chapel]

Combine release? Wonderful.

 

 

Started to get back into NV, and wanted to see what SNG has that is new or updated. One of us has really great timing, Loogie. Thank you.

 

 

I have not been showing NV any love, it seems. 

 

[questionaccount]

Will the Nipton and Raid Camp legionaries be fixed in the next update?

[Loogie]

The latest Sexout beta has bug fixes for a character getting broken if two people try to pork them at the same time. It works for me, check if it works for you!

[RitualClarity]

I have arrived at Primm.. I have to say Loogie.. "I like your hat"..

 

 

However I ran into some problems and thing you might like to see. I downloaded the current updats and have the current Sexout Beta installed. and SCR Beta 20150228 installed.

 

 

Some typos or other strange things showing up in the dialogue. One example .. "The asked me to free to drive you guys off. The other look like a formlist or something like that.

Flambe should be alive correct? all the PG are dead including him. I ask because nothing is really happening there. Finally as a female character . was able to interact with both the hostess and the prostitutes. AS a male I get the greeting and can then return or asking for sex but get nothing. The last screen just don't come up. (I did use sexchange command on a female base character if that has any basis for this)

 

Also is the NCR suppose to be hostlie at Primm. They were with my character until I killed the guard by the road and changed outfits to NCR. Then when I entered Primm they acted like nothing was wrong.. While I was wearing the NCR outfit. I am sure it was effecting the game because I got the pop up when I changed clothes into and out of NCR.

 

Follow up from the prison. the beta seem to work better. less hang after about 5 minutes of play. Took a bit for it to seem to work. Was able to get Scrambler to inform me that Eddie wanted to see me however only in the prison main building not in the yard. Went back to a previous save and stayed for a few more 'interactions" and nothing. Nothing until I entered Eddie's building.

 

One minor thing that still happened is the PG will stand there.. almost as if their normal sandbox was stopped. Nothing happens until I leave and re-enter the world space and then only a few of them return to the normal sandbox action. Not only the ones that engaged in sex but the others that were called and walked over but was too late.

 

 

 

[Loogie]

Thanks for the info, I'll look into the bugs tomorrow. NCR hating you and the Powder Gangers being dead is nothing I've seen, all I can think is a mod conflict.

 

If you're going off a previous savegame, it the latest Sexout update isn't fixing already broken actors, it's making sure they don't get broken in the first place.

 

What ENB, skin and eye textures do you use? Layla looks great.

[NicoleDragoness]

Legion Part:

 

Why I have the option to avoid being raped/fucked by legionaires inside the Fort, first time arrived, with "I'm carryng the Mark od Caesar ... ", and I don't have this option in Cottonwood, first time arrived, during my fisrt approach to the Fort?

 

It seems that the only one legionair at Cottonwood allowed to ask me "Which business you have here?" comes nearby me too late and all other legionaires are "running" to fuck me before him. Trigeer problems? Timing problems? Whatever?

[Roarke]

I know you guys are discussing bugs and fixes. I think it's awesome that the working girl perks got an update. Now instead of showing an error, the perks have an actual icon on them. I am going to see if I can collect them all.