Monoman1 Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Cool ok. I'm with you on that. HDT > BBP. SO if it's a choice between them then HDT it is. Are there any plans for a hdt version of the milking machine animation ?
chajapa Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Cool ok. I'm with you on that. HDT > BBP. SO if it's a choice between them then HDT it is. Are there any plans for a hdt version of the milking machine animation ? Not that I'm aware of. I think I remember way back that Zaz tried to get something happening with HDT on them but gave up because it was a nightmare and not working. I've often thought that if you could "pop" the breast bone out and in, that it would kinda look the same, but I may also being showing how extremely naive I am about animations. Keyframed animation I understand... HDT.... not so much I know that in HDT you can reposition things. And in the breast there is a sphere or capsule shape defined. That's what the hand is colliding with when you have HDT hand/breast collision. A sphere in the hand collides with a sphere (or capsule shape) in the breast. You can actually fine tune the collision for larger breasts by changing the capsule size. Ever see a hand sink into the breast before it moves? Usually happens on larger breasts. Or on a small-breasted character, the breast moves before the hand touches it? That breast capsule is the same size in both animations, but it's too small for a large-breasted character and too large for a small-breasted character. Anyways... in my mind (twisted though it may sometimes be...) I would think you could get something similar to the framed animation of BBP while in the milking machines, but it would be a scripted repositioning of parts of the breast.... collision capsule or bone or... I don't know. Then again... if it was that easy, one of the talented animators would have done it I'm sure. So.... I am apparently lacking knowledge
MasterPiece300 Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Excellent work ed, on that update. Tho I have some minor issues -the unmilked debuff does not show unless one has the speed/stamina options turned on. The effects will still take place tho. -PSQ's create penis spells are not recognized as futa only when the sos equippable item is equipped. I'm guessing an edit to PSQ would be needed? -Not sure if its an issue but isn't futa cum supposed to increase arousal and “turn girls into futa” or am I missing something? yes... spell with description is attached to disabled effect, will fix thatprobably yes So, would you say the create penis spells are detectable and is it fixable in your end? Or it must be added to PSQ? On the futa cum, so your saying yes its an issue or yes its suppose to work that way? Any suggestions as to why its not working in my end? Perhaps the unp sos is absolutely required or should it work with the sos equipable shlong? Also the arousal never changes, everything else works (rnd and psq energy changes).
Ed86 Posted June 7, 2015 Author Posted June 7, 2015 Excellent work ed, on that update. Tho I have some minor issues -the unmilked debuff does not show unless one has the speed/stamina options turned on. The effects will still take place tho. -PSQ's create penis spells are not recognized as futa only when the sos equippable item is equipped. I'm guessing an edit to PSQ would be needed? -Not sure if its an issue but isn't futa cum supposed to increase arousal and “turn girls into futa” or am I missing something? yes... spell with description is attached to disabled effect, will fix that probably yes So, would you say the create penis spells are detectable and is it fixable in your end? Or it must be added to PSQ? On the futa cum, so your saying yes its an issue or yes its suppose to work that way? Any suggestions as to why its not working in my end? Perhaps the unp sos is absolutely required or should it work with the sos equipable shlong? Also the arousal never changes, everything else works (rnd and psq energy changes). yes, i would prefer ppl using sos framework instead of creating endless sos mods and patches you need sos full and unp sos, since that part modifies character through sos framework futa cum potions do not increase arousal, they increase exposure
chajapa Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 Ed86, I'm curious.... why did you put the dialogue (for the NPC comments) in Miscellaneous? You're real close to having dialogue milking. I mean, not that I would want people to stop using JUGs, but when an NPC says something like, "Somebody hasn't been milked today!", you could continue that an have the PC answer with something like, "Would you like to do the honors?", NPC replies... "SURE!", and you start the breastfeeding animation. Or.... I'd LOVE to milk you but I don't have a bucket. PC says, I guess you'll have to improvise... and you start a breastfeeding animation. The ONLY problem I see is that you'd need to split the responses... add a condition for NPC IsSex Male for each of the current random comments..... play MF breastfeeding animation Make a duplicate of all 3 random comments and add a condition for NPC IsSex Female (instead of male)..... play lesbian breastfeeding animation I was just poking around in CK and was like.... wow... you're like... THIS close!
Ed86 Posted June 7, 2015 Author Posted June 7, 2015 Ed86, I'm curious.... why did you put the dialogue (for the NPC comments) in Miscellaneous? You're real close to having dialogue milking. I mean, not that I would want people to stop using JUGs, but when an NPC says something like, "Somebody hasn't been milked today!", you could continue that an have the PC answer with something like, "Would you like to do the honors?", NPC replies... "SURE!", and you start the breastfeeding animation. Or.... I'd LOVE to milk you but I don't have a bucket. PC says, I guess you'll have to improvise... and you start a breastfeeding animation. The ONLY problem I see is that you'd need to split the responses... add a condition for NPC IsSex Male for each of the current random comments..... play MF breastfeeding animation Make a duplicate of all 3 random comments and add a condition for NPC IsSex Female (instead of male)..... play lesbian breastfeeding animation I was just poking around in CK and was like.... wow... you're like... THIS close! well its actually there for few months =) i might finish it this year or someday ... i hope
chajapa Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 If you have your own ideas on what you want to do with it, I'm sure I'll enjoy them. If you want me to send you my script fragments for starting the breastfeeding animations (MF and FF) just say the word and I'll send them in a PM or something. Pretty simple so I'm sure you probably already know exactly how to do it, but.... I'm offering
siwiilast Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 hey Ed86, can you please update your changelog on the first page? thanks!
Shadowscale Posted June 7, 2015 Posted June 7, 2015 hey Ed86, can you please update your changelog on the first page? thanks! To my knowledge it is changed at least on the download page. Just have to scroll all the way down.
MasterPiece300 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 Excellent work ed, on that update. Tho I have some minor issues -the unmilked debuff does not show unless one has the speed/stamina options turned on. The effects will still take place tho. -PSQ's create penis spells are not recognized as futa only when the sos equippable item is equipped. I'm guessing an edit to PSQ would be needed? -Not sure if its an issue but isn't futa cum supposed to increase arousal and “turn girls into futa” or am I missing something? yes... spell with description is attached to disabled effect, will fix thatprobably yes So, would you say the create penis spells are detectable and is it fixable in your end? Or it must be added to PSQ? On the futa cum, so your saying yes its an issue or yes its suppose to work that way? Any suggestions as to why its not working in my end? Perhaps the unp sos is absolutely required or should it work with the sos equipable shlong? Also the arousal never changes, everything else works (rnd and psq energy changes). yes, i would prefer ppl using sos framework instead of creating endless sos mods and patchesyou need sos full and unp sos, since that part modifies character through sos framework futa cum potions do not increase arousal, they increase exposure The properties of futa cum are not really that important but could you at least make it so that the psq's create penis spells are detected? As it stands I would have to go to their inventory and equip the sos shlong in order gain futa cum. If its not to much trouble, that is.
alternateaccounts Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 I'm having an issue where I can't start a new game with the mod loaded. I can however load up a save game and use the console to equip the milking cuirass. I have all the dependencies. Is there something obvious I'm missing, or is it just my horribly long, recently updated mod list?
chajapa Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 Describe what happens when you are starting a new game. ALSO.... just so you know.... it's commonly done to start a new game with only your essential mods activated (race, body, whatever.... but forget about clothes, armors, sexlab and everything having anything to do with sexlab) so you pretty much start as a nearly vanilla game and then you get out of Helgen... save... and then exit, activate your mods, re-enter the game and that last save, configure everything...... NOW you start playing... LOTS of mods will mess with that opening scene when starting a new game. I can't say I've ever seen Milk Mod interfere with it, but many other mods will. So start a new game as basic as you can and then once you're out of Helgen, activate your mods and configure everything.
alternateaccounts Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 I'm having an issue where I can't start a new game with the mod loaded. I can however load up a save game and use the console to equip the milking cuirass. I have all the dependencies. Is there something obvious I'm missing, or is it just my horribly long, recently updated mod list? I found the problem, it was the hearthfires patch esp. after disabling it everything worked fine.
bullyboy8 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 I can't get my PC to trigger any of the milking animations (I'm male). My male and female follows get milked fine (although I wish the "Add 1 bottle of X" would appear periodically, rather than only after the milking is finished). I've tried the Dwemer machine and the Orc camp one - but by PC just sits in them and they never start milking. I've waited an hour for the polling interval (not sure if that affects animations)...
chajapa Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 I can't get my PC to trigger any of the milking animations (I'm male). My male and female follows get milked fine (although I wish the "Add 1 bottle of X" would appear periodically, rather than only after the milking is finished). I've tried the Dwemer machine and the Orc camp one - but by PC just sits in them and they never start milking. I've waited an hour for the polling interval (not sure if that affects animations)... They should start being milked right after they enter the machine. Try the machine in Riverwood, or the 2 behind the forge area in Whiterun. If those aren't working, you have something out of whack. Wait.... you try to milk a male PC? I've never done that so I have no idea if that works.
bullyboy8 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 I can't get my PC to trigger any of the milking animations (I'm male). My male and female follows get milked fine (although I wish the "Add 1 bottle of X" would appear periodically, rather than only after the milking is finished). I've tried the Dwemer machine and the Orc camp one - but by PC just sits in them and they never start milking. I've waited an hour for the polling interval (not sure if that affects animations)... They should start being milked right after they enter the machine. Try the machine in Riverwood, or the 2 behind the forge area in Whiterun. If those aren't working, you have something out of whack. Wait.... you try to milk a male PC? I've never done that so I have no idea if that works. Whiterun's has the same issue - the PC just sits there and no animations start. I would have assumed that the mod just wasn't compatible with males - if not for the fact you can milk male followers (cuirasses have penis pumps and you get semen).
Ed86 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Posted June 9, 2015 I can't get my PC to trigger any of the milking animations (I'm male). My male and female follows get milked fine (although I wish the "Add 1 bottle of X" would appear periodically, rather than only after the milking is finished). I've tried the Dwemer machine and the Orc camp one - but by PC just sits in them and they never start milking. I've waited an hour for the polling interval (not sure if that affects animations)... They should start being milked right after they enter the machine. Try the machine in Riverwood, or the 2 behind the forge area in Whiterun. If those aren't working, you have something out of whack. Wait.... you try to milk a male PC? I've never done that so I have no idea if that works. Whiterun's has the same issue - the PC just sits there and no animations start. I would have assumed that the mod just wasn't compatible with males - if not for the fact you can milk male followers (cuirasses have penis pumps and you get semen). you are doing something wrong, i've just made new male character and everything works, animations play
Rock-underdriver Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Hey ed i'm just having a little trouble with the mobile milking option when i turn it off it will stay off for about 5 mins and then turn itself back on without being in the mcm menu. the same thing will happen if i change difficulty but the difficult doesn't altar requirements just reverts to saying normal. i'm asking here because i wouldn't know who else to ask because it seems to have started when i installed latest version
chajapa Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Ed86- Bug.... I think... Using 2015-06-07 version In MCM under Debug Milk Maid If you have more than 4 maids, it no longer scrolls the names so you can see the additional maids. I'm not sure when it started as I haven't had more than 4 in a while. Today I tried 6 and I can only see the first 4 in that Debug Milk Maid popup where you choose the maid. The additional maids ARE showing up in the Overview on the right hand side. So they exist, and MME knows they exist, it just isn't showing them to me in that one spot.
Ed86 Posted June 10, 2015 Author Posted June 10, 2015 Hey ed i'm just having a little trouble with the mobile milking option when i turn it off it will stay off for about 5 mins and then turn itself back on without being in the mcm menu. the same thing will happen if i change difficulty but the difficult doesn't altar requirements just reverts to saying normal. i'm asking here because i wouldn't know who else to ask because it seems to have started when i installed latest versionhm...seems something wrong with script or save, i guess clean save or removing milk* scripts with savetool will fix that
Rock-underdriver Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Hey ed i'm just having a little trouble with the mobile milking option when i turn it off it will stay off for about 5 mins and then turn itself back on without being in the mcm menu. the same thing will happen if i change difficulty but the difficult doesn't altar requirements just reverts to saying normal. i'm asking here because i wouldn't know who else to ask because it seems to have started when i installed latest versionhm...seems something wrong with script or save, i guess clean save or removing milk* scripts with savetool will fix that did a clean save to see if that would fix it a little while after the post it seemed to have made it a rare occurrence so far after 10 hrs of playing with MME on it has happened about 6 times i think
Ed86 Posted June 10, 2015 Author Posted June 10, 2015 Hey ed i'm just having a little trouble with the mobile milking option when i turn it off it will stay off for about 5 mins and then turn itself back on without being in the mcm menu. the same thing will happen if i change difficulty but the difficult doesn't altar requirements just reverts to saying normal. i'm asking here because i wouldn't know who else to ask because it seems to have started when i installed latest versionhm...seems something wrong with script or save, i guess clean save or removing milk* scripts with savetool will fix that did a clean save to see if that would fix it a little while after the post it seemed to have made it a rare occurrence so far after 10 hrs of playing with MME on it has happened about 6 times i think hm... yes theres error in script, if you have 5 milk it turns on :/ ill totally remove that option in next version
MasterPiece300 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Alright got some bugs to report - I did some testing with exhaustion debuffs and it seems that they get this debuff during living armor milking sessions regardless if they exceed the pain gain threshold or not. And they get both exhaustion and mental exhaustion at the same time but I’m guessing this second part may be intended. - exhaustion debuffs are not removed when its timer expires. - when simple milk is turned on all normal milk gained become race milk. But this could be intended? Now these are just some minor suggestions. - why not make the living armors forced milking chance adjustable? - Instead of having basic living armor the same as EC+ but with milking animation, why not have it as passive milking with no animations? - May I also suggest an increase in the energy given to the succubus from futa/semen bottles to lets say 200? energy received seems a bit to low at higher succubus rank. Possibly make it adjustable? On a side note I also have the same issue as rockoverlord23 (the second issue). Although it does stay on the actual value I set it to be, the option shows as its normal.
Ed86 Posted June 10, 2015 Author Posted June 10, 2015 Alright got some bugs to report - I did some testing with exhaustion debuffs and it seems that they get this debuff during living armor milking sessions regardless if they exceed the pain gain threshold or not. And they get both exhaustion and mental exhaustion at the same time but I’m guessing this second part may be intended. - exhaustion debuffs are not removed when its timer expires. - when simple milk is turned on all normal milk gained become race milk. But this could be intended? Now these are just some minor suggestions. - why not make the living armors forced milking chance adjustable? - Instead of having basic living armor the same as EC+ but with milking animation, why not have it as passive milking with no animations? - May I also suggest an increase in the energy given to the succubus from futa/semen bottles to lets say 200? energy received seems a bit to low at higher succubus rank. Possibly make it adjustable? On a side note I also have the same issue as rockoverlord23 (the second issue). Although it does stay on the actual value I set it to be, the option shows as its normal. intended ill check that i dont remember, probably is intended since simple milk only have name changed and variable hp/sp/mp regen, so "normal" milk doesnt make much sence dont know, i like random with chance increasing the fuller milk maid breasts are erm... dont quite understand why do this, you came here for milking right? you can always interrupt milking animations ill think about it, maybe will make a persentage of max energy
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