fishburger67 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 The only reason I keep Lovers Comfort is because I like the sex interaction between husband & wife or courting npc is there any mod out there that does the same I know that Lovers Comfort is not the greatest when it comes to stability. Sex Slaves has the same random sex options as Lovers Comfort (I added that because I was dumping Lovers Comfort). It doesn't have the same spouse dialog. Also, you can turn off lovers comfort until you get out of the dungeon. That will reduce the papyrus load considerably. Make sure you are using Sexlab Aroused Redux and turn cell scans down to once every 500 seconds (max setting).
Slammer64 Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 You'll have to have one of the follower overhauls uman2631, EFF,UFO or AFT, IMHO EFF works best both for handling followers and this mod. The cell search won't do anything till you aquire some sex slaves, and as for male characters that's whose the mod is intended for.
fishburger67 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 A couple of questions... #1 Is it all right to have the slaves wear arm and leg cuffs or does that mess with the thing about them not wearing clothes? #2 Just for fun I have enslaved both Mia and Allison and one of my regular followers. I'm now trying to get Vernor to make a sex slave out of another follower and I don't get the dialogue. Is there a waiting period between making followers into sex slaves? The MCM shows me as having the correct number of followers in the cell with Vernor and he does talk to me, but I don't get the line where I can ask him to make a follower into a slave. 1. Should be OK to wear zaz stuff. 2. You can have up to 5 slaves hanging in the cell. The issue will likely be that the slave candidates were not in the cell when the scan went off for non-slave followers. I am moving that scan spot today and that should hopefully fix your issue.
fishburger67 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 You'll have to have one of the follower overhauls uman2631, EFF,UFO or AFT, IMHO EFF works best both for handling followers and this mod. The cell search won't do anything till you aquire some sex slaves, and as for male characters that's whose the mod is intended for. All true, Male followers are ignored. However, I like AFT the best for it's compatibility. I am considering adding a note the the maine page the UFO is not supported.
fishburger67 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 Dont understand how to get past Tzallaman. I get that I'm supposed to have 2-5 female followers. But I can't have more than 1 follower at a time. Does this mod require one of the follower overhauls? Or is there supposed to be some other method of getting followers that I'm not seeing? Also, in the MCM I see an option about cell searching related to orgies. I activated it, but I see no particular effect. Is something supposed to be happening? Some dialog? I play a male character, does that matter? Yes, you must have a follower mod to get through the main quest. If you don't want a follower mod, there is a Wyre Bash option. There are also several simple follower mods. I personally like AFT because it doesn't give me ANY TROUBLE with other mods. Slammer likes EFF for the same reason, but I found EFF a bit hard to get used to. You only get dialog options related to cell scans with sex slaves. They are the only ones that use it today. I am adding spouse options if your a female that will use cell scans, but they do not exist right now. Works for males and females, but in my opinion, the "Its a Trap" scene (which you haven't seen yet is nicer if your a female.
sou2k2 Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 I've finished bonding Mia but after sex she is forever stuck at some moaning "oohhh ahhh oohhh" etc i haven't managed to leave that situation, how can i unlock the dremora to train my companions? Tbh i don't care about her.
nyctophilia Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 I've finished bonding Mia but after sex she is forever stuck at some moaning "oohhh ahhh oohhh" etc i haven't managed to leave that situation, how can i unlock the dremora to train my companions? Tbh i don't care about her. After bonding, BJ, she should go into the ecstasy phase. If she doesn't, she'll be stuck in the way that you have described. When that happens, walk up to Volkar he'll have the dialogue "I cannot complete the bond with <her name> can you help me."
chajapa Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Just reporting an interesting issue. I use AFT for followers. I had successfully trained Mia and Allison. Mia went fine. Allison got stuck after the bonding BJ and Volkar helped me complete the bond. Upstairs, I had Vernor train on of my followers (Alise). I took her back to Winterstone Castle (nice home, by the way) and left her there. Then I went to Vernor to get him to train another follower (Cassida). He didn't have the dialogue for training. I waited. I left and re-entered the cell. I waited some more. Vernor was not cooperating. So I took Cassida down to Volkar. Told him I wanted to train a companion. YES! We got Cassida strung up and I beat the hell out of her (kinda weird 'cause I like her) and I got her all the way through the entire thing and completed the bond and everything and..... she disappeared. I could not find her. I finally found her back in Markarth where you find her the first time. She was leaning against a wall in the In. Naked. And I walked up to her and there was the "follow me, I need your help" dialogue. So SOMEHOW.... during, after, or because of, training her to be a sex slave, she was released as my follower. Not a huge deal. But when Vernor trained Alise this didn't happen. I have another follower I'm going to have Volkar help me train and see if the same thing happens. But as you know, training takes a while and I may not be able to get back to this until tomorrow.
sou2k2 Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 I've finished bonding Mia but after sex she is forever stuck at some moaning "oohhh ahhh oohhh" etc i haven't managed to leave that situation, how can i unlock the dremora to train my companions? Tbh i don't care about her. After bonding, BJ, she should go into the ecstasy phase. If she doesn't, she'll be stuck in the way that you have described. When that happens, walk up to Volkar he'll have the dialogue "I cannot complete the bond with <her name> can you help me." He doesn't have that option, he just walks away when i tell him to check the slave
fishburger67 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 Thanks for the feedback you guys, will have a look next week at this followerCompatibility mod. In the meantime, perhaps you guys might conside AFT? A quick test with old save with sexslave uninstalled then reinstalled. Good news is, it works. But, as I got stuck at that "no whipping" scene again (even with vanilla companions.....), what's the setstage commands so that I can by-pass it? If your stuck at the whipping, I don't think setstage will help you, but the stage where you are free is 60. If you wait an hour or so and download version 26, I just changed it so if you setstage 60, you will be freed and the level will be enabled. I have not tested this, so you can be the guinea pig.
fishburger67 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 I've finished bonding Mia but after sex she is forever stuck at some moaning "oohhh ahhh oohhh" etc i haven't managed to leave that situation, how can i unlock the dremora to train my companions? Tbh i don't care about her. After bonding, BJ, she should go into the ecstasy phase. If she doesn't, she'll be stuck in the way that you have described. When that happens, walk up to Volkar he'll have the dialogue "I cannot complete the bond with <her name> can you help me." He doesn't have that option, he just walks away when i tell him to check the slave Post a papyrus log as an attachment.
fishburger67 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 Just reporting an interesting issue. I use AFT for followers. I had successfully trained Mia and Allison. Mia went fine. Allison got stuck after the bonding BJ and Volkar helped me complete the bond. Upstairs, I had Vernor train on of my followers (Alise). I took her back to Winterstone Castle (nice home, by the way) and left her there. Then I went to Vernor to get him to train another follower (Cassida). He didn't have the dialogue for training. I waited. I left and re-entered the cell. I waited some more. Vernor was not cooperating. So I took Cassida down to Volkar. Told him I wanted to train a companion. YES! We got Cassida strung up and I beat the hell out of her (kinda weird 'cause I like her) and I got her all the way through the entire thing and completed the bond and everything and..... she disappeared. I could not find her. I finally found her back in Markarth where you find her the first time. She was leaning against a wall in the In. Naked. And I walked up to her and there was the "follow me, I need your help" dialogue. So SOMEHOW.... during, after, or because of, training her to be a sex slave, she was released as my follower. Not a huge deal. But when Vernor trained Alise this didn't happen. I have another follower I'm going to have Volkar help me train and see if the same thing happens. But as you know, training takes a while and I may not be able to get back to this until tomorrow. When you train a slave, the may no longer be a follower. You have two choices, let her go back to what she was doing or (back to Markarth in this case) or be a follower in which case I call the vanilla makeFollower() function.
dragenx Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Dose anyone know Jenny Windlow ID can't find her anywhere in Mias Castle or Dungeon I got her loose now I don't see her anywhere xxxx299A Not working I looked in the TES5Edit it show her as 6400299A try to move to her where ever she is what do I need to do to move to her or have her move to me ?
fishburger67 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 Uploaded Version 26 1. This version contains new dialog options for female players with their spouse and male sex slave. 2. Changed the dungeon so that players enter into an area with more room for followers. Also moved the triggers to scan for followers way in. The hope is that followers will be near the player when they enter the trigger and so they will be recognized by Volkar. As you enter the dungeon, you pass through a wide area that used to have skeletons in it. When you get to the end of the room, turn around and make sure your followers are with you. 3. Added some code so that if you issue setstage 60 on MiaDungeonCapture, you will be freed from the hanging position. However, be prepared for a fight with no weapons against a tough foe. (Might be best to go into god mode).
WaxenFigure Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Played with it for a bit today, have some suggestions: Add the SexlabNoStrip keyword to the pussy piercing jewelry the sex slaves wear, nobody would take off such arousing jewelry before having sex. Add a MCM slave status page, pick a slave (like Sexlab allows you to select which set of animations you are selecting) and set the status fields to show information on each sex slave so you can take the appropriate next action with each (would be a great place to show a status of training). Perhaps it would be nice to add a scene for training so each training cycle could be done by starting a scene that can just be watched (perhaps other people should weigh in with their opinions about whether they're prefer a watchable scene or doing it all themselves). The Dungeon sequence could be worked on more to make each segment look and act less like the sources you took them from but that should go way DOWN on the priority list of changes. I liked the new gas/rape sequence in the dungeon but there wasn't an explanation of why you needed an antidote vs your followers. Perhaps at the point where he notes you didn't feel the whipping properly would be good time to insert a bit more explanation. The drug was given to you to remove your magic, shouting abilities and your will. At some point the drug would have wear off naturally so you are expected to watch your followers be tortured to death instead of being made into slaves themselves in order to help break you before the drug wears off. It's a new drug he invented himself which also might explain why you can't get any for training your own slaves later (making an opening for you to discover the recipe as a later addition to the mod).
fishburger67 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 Played with it for a bit today, have some suggestions: Add the SexlabNoStrip keyword to the pussy piercing jewelry the sex slaves wear, nobody would take off such arousing jewelry before having sex. Add a MCM slave status page, pick a slave (like Sexlab allows you to select which set of animations you are selecting) and set the status fields to show information on each sex slave so you can take the appropriate next action with each (would be a great place to show a status of training). Perhaps it would be nice to add a scene for training so each training cycle could be done by starting a scene that can just be watched (perhaps other people should weigh in with their opinions about whether they're prefer a watchable scene or doing it all themselves). The Dungeon sequence could be worked on more to make each segment look and act less like the sources you took them from but that should go way DOWN on the priority list of changes. I liked the new gas/rape sequence in the dungeon but there wasn't an explanation of why you needed an antidote vs your followers. Perhaps at the point where he notes you didn't feel the whipping properly would be good time to insert a bit more explanation. The drug was given to you to remove your magic, shouting abilities and your will. At some point the drug would have wear off naturally so you are expected to watch your followers be tortured to death instead of being made into slaves themselves in order to help break you before the drug wears off. It's a new drug he invented himself which also might explain why you can't get any for training your own slaves later (making an opening for you to discover the recipe as a later addition to the mod). Fabulous ideas all Waxen. The dungeon torture scene took like a week and I don't expect many to go through it again. I particularly like the mcm menu option because users are always asking about it. Also, which "dungeon sequences" are you talking about? As far as I know, they are all original except for the fact that the dungeon itself started from a vanilla one.
WaxenFigure Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 ... Also, which "dungeon sequences" are you talking about? As far as I know, they are all original except for the fact that the dungeon itself started from a vanilla one. The various parts of the dungeon look and act too much like the dungeons they were copied from. Adjusting those cells to look different (add/remove more items) and have different battles in them would make them less "familiar". Again, that's something for a later time when you're looking to polish the mod and not while you're still looking to add features etc.
fishburger67 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 ... Also, which "dungeon sequences" are you talking about? As far as I know, they are all original except for the fact that the dungeon itself started from a vanilla one. The various parts of the dungeon look and act too much like the dungeons they were copied from. Adjusting those cells to look different (add/remove more items) and have different battles in them would make them less "familiar". Again, that's something for a later time when you're looking to polish the mod and not while you're still looking to add features etc. Ah yes, your are right, this one started from a vanilla one and I left it mostly intact.
rockitten Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Uploaded Version 26 1. This version contains new dialog options for female players with their spouse and male sex slave. 2. Changed the dungeon so that players enter into an area with more room for followers. Also moved the triggers to scan for followers way in. The hope is that followers will be near the player when they enter the trigger and so they will be recognized by Volkar. As you enter the dungeon, you pass through a wide area that used to have skeletons in it. When you get to the end of the room, turn around and make sure your followers are with you. 3. Added some code so that if you issue setstage 60 on MiaDungeonCapture, you will be freed from the hanging position. However, be prepared for a fight with no weapons against a tough foe. (Might be best to go into god mode). Just done a quick test for the setstage command: Good news: Yes, the lever shown up and you get released. Bad news: you are still in the blurred vision and cannot move......... Therefore, to make this works, remember to use that concole command BEFORE enter the dungeon so the lever and the guy are present at the right start and just by-pass the whole gased scene. In fact, I found this trick also works to avoid the "forever gased" glitch on some scripted followers that you cannot dismiss (eg. Serana) or for anyone with don't what his/her bitches being screwed by anyone other than him/herself. I have test that by bringing in the whole squad of customed modded chicks (Vilja, sofia, Arissa, Virconia, ANNA NPC, Cerwiden, Mirissi...etc), in ver 2.5 many of them will get stucked on that (gased animations) once you get passed that cell check point. In ver 2.6 with console command used, they followed me the whole durgeon without issues...... By the way, I have somewhat found what messed up my vanilla follower to have the whipping works (milk maid), so I would say the whole whipping scene works (tested on both ver2.5 and 2.6) even on a heavily modded save and involved reinstall the mod to have to MCM menu show up....as long s you don't bring in any non-vanilla follower Nice work, fishbruger67. This mod and the Amorous adventures is probably the 2 best quest sexlab mod so far. And to give my support, I will keep a save before entering the dungeon for more mod testing in the future. Some suggestion for future changes: 1. change the minimum training time to 1 (so, 30 minutes?) on MCM for some inpatient souls (and for testing works) 2. Move that enchantment table in the Mia castle 90 degrees to that adjacent side of the wall. It is overlapping with the chair......... - By the way, is there any extra dialog between Alicia pain slut and this mod? And, if I ask Jenny Winglow follow me (after she get released but before I confront Mia), will that be any issue?
fishburger67 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 Uploaded Version 26 1. This version contains new dialog options for female players with their spouse and male sex slave. 2. Changed the dungeon so that players enter into an area with more room for followers. Also moved the triggers to scan for followers way in. The hope is that followers will be near the player when they enter the trigger and so they will be recognized by Volkar. As you enter the dungeon, you pass through a wide area that used to have skeletons in it. When you get to the end of the room, turn around and make sure your followers are with you. 3. Added some code so that if you issue setstage 60 on MiaDungeonCapture, you will be freed from the hanging position. However, be prepared for a fight with no weapons against a tough foe. (Might be best to go into god mode). Just done a quick test for the setstage command: Good news: Yes, the lever shown up and you get released. Bad news: you are still in the blurred vision and cannot move......... Therefore, to make this works, remember to use that concole command BEFORE enter the dungeon so the lever and the guy are present at the right start and just by-pass the whole gased scene. In fact, I found this trick also works to avoid the "forever gased" glitch on some scripted followers that you cannot dismiss (eg. Serana) or for anyone with don't what his/her bitches being screwed by anyone other than him/herself. I have test that by bringing in the whole squad of customed modded chicks (Vilja, sofia, Arissa, Virconia, ANNA NPC, Cerwiden, Mirissi...etc), in ver 2.5 many of them will get stucked on that (gased animations) once you get passed that cell check point. In ver 2.6 with console command used, they followed me the whole durgeon without issues...... By the way, I have somewhat found what messed up my vanilla follower to have the whipping works (milk maid), so I would say the whole whipping scene works (tested on both ver2.5 and 2.6) even on a heavily modded save and involved reinstall the mod to have to MCM menu show up....as long s you don't bring in any non-vanilla follower Nice work, fishbruger67. This mod and the Amorous adventures is probably the 2 best quest sexlab mod so far. And to give my support, I will keep a save before entering the dungeon for more mod testing in the future. Some suggestion for future changes: 1. change the minimum training time to 1 (so, 30 minutes?) on MCM for some inpatient souls (and for testing works) 2. Move that enchantment table in the Mia castle 90 degrees to that adjacent side of the wall. It is overlapping with the chair......... - By the way, is there any extra dialog between Alicia pain slut and this mod? And, if I ask Jenny Winglow follow me (after she get released but before I confront Mia), will that be any issue? Yes, there is a small bit of additional dialog, but not enough to make a replay worth it (unless you can get the "Its a trap" scene to work. I never get tired of watching that.) And yes, you can fire and rehire Jenny. But why, she is a kick ass killer, especially if your health gets below 25%. Am I the only one who likes her looks? I have heard additional feedback that she is hideous.
germanicus Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Am I the only one who likes her looks? I have heard additional feedback that she is hideous. hahahahhaa - it looks so. my favorites are Nimphadora and that black girl. I love them.
rockitten Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Just completed slave training of Mia, as it is my first ever completed a play-through of this part of the mod, some feeling: 1. Now I totally understand why so many feedback about the training needs more favoring and be shorter. Compare with the exciting capture scene, it is........ I mean, a "REAL" training should be, I beat her, I put plugs into her so she can get excited but not organism, hang her up and lock her into the cells. I take a nap, come back and she beg for sex. Virginal first, from normal positions to more insulting styles like doggy style, then anal, then those racks, wheels....etc and finally, when you think she is ready (so she won't bite) and we play oral and group sex. Even at the shortest time setting, repeating the same sex animation so many times is no fun at all....... 2. Probably we need a MCM menu for sex slave management similar to the milk maid mod. Especially for an option to disable a particular sex slave status of a NPC as it is somewhat an irreversible process at the moment. 3. How come there is no inventory management dialog option for Mia after she has become a sex slave? 4. It should be the master/madam to control when the slave can have sex, not the slave. As least a MCM menu to switch the forced sex off please..... 5. Many be this mod should really make a good use for those devious devices stuff. So far many of those toys only works on PC but not NPC. But for a mod like this, we should really be able to make those plugs, cuffs, gags, pony boots, dog tail (force the slave to claw on four)....etcs works on sex slaves. After, that's what sex slave suppose to wear. And you have already have the script for a forced AI already.
uman2631 Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 So thanks for the previous help on AFT. That worked. Some minor incompatibilities with Alicia. Also, I accidentally made Alicia my sexslave with this mod. So far it seems to be okay, but dialog now takes a long time to open. I shouldn't have done that. My biggest beef is that I really wish that there was more support for male slaves with male PC (and actual male slaves in Sanguine's castle). Even if you dont have voiced dialog, some of the basic options should be there, like seduce orgy, group sex that allows all male characters, etc. It doesnt have to be that different, just a few choice words here and there would have to change. I'd even be okay if the dialog was gender wrong, if the options were still there (although it would be best if there was a least a little gender awareness/compatibility). In any event, I did manage to get my follower into the male slave faction, but I had to use console to do it, Volkar would not recognize him as a valid follower. The gas trap was awesome. Good job with that! Training Mia was a bit of a pain (took at least 3 hours of dedicated time w/ MCM setting=4), but in the end I got it to work and it was fine. I dont mind inconveniences.
uman2631 Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Re: comments on looks ... some of the girls look great, some dont. Maybe it depends on what face mods you have? Like my Jenny and Mia are beautiful. But Nymphadora looks pretty hideous, and I think her name is Kelly or something (the one that the player thinks is a "kid"), is truly hideous, because her hair is a grey frazzled mess. Far from looking like a kid, she looks ancient.
nyctophilia Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Am I the only one who likes her looks? I have heard additional feedback that she is hideous. hahahahhaa - it looks so. my favorites are Nimphadora and that black girl. I love them. Re: comments on looks ... some of the girls look great, some dont. Maybe it depends on what face mods you have? Like my Jenny and Mia are beautiful. But Nymphadora looks pretty hideous, and I think her name is Kelly or something (the one that the player thinks is a "kid"), is truly hideous, because her hair is a grey frazzled mess. Far from looking like a kid, she looks ancient. To each their own..... You can always change their attributes (hair, face morphs etc.) via the CK. You can also use the Template Data-> ActorBase to copy the Traits of a vanilla or mod added NPC. Personally, I think they all look unique, except Allison of course. In fact, Jenny's face could look like a 100 year old prune (even though I do find her attractive). It's that soft sexy voice that does it for me!
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