fishburger67 Posted September 15, 2015 Author Posted September 15, 2015 I've just played up through putting Mia up in chains and have Jenny, Sasha and Ravencrone in tow. Niri and Vess are still down in their cages. Everything has gone very well with 1.60.2. The only thing I've seen that was an issue (after I remembered to re-run fnis and start again at the gas trap ) is Sasha's masturbation animation ending prematurely - she still has the electric aura and vocalizes but is in a standing idle pose. It's happened both times it's come up. Jenny's ran correctly, but I've only seen it once so far. My questrion is: for me to have the best experience of the new content that's in the pipeline without a restart, what should I avoid doing with the slaves right now? Edit: and, what should I be sure to do? I'm playing as a woman and am inclined to try playing the strong bdsm and/or Andrew line first. We work hard to make sure that each subsequent release is compatible with previous versions. The only caveat is that if you choose to kill one of the NPC (Mia for example), you might not have access to future stuff. If you are playing female and you enjoy hardcore BDSM, try out Volkar. (Maybe try him out once at least anyway.). Andrew is designed to be the best follower possible for female players so long as you like the dominant type. I expect to add a LOT of new content for him in the next release. Jenny and Shasha are the best female companions in Skyrim, and in particular if you have them both in your party. They are kick ass fighters and a huge laugh. Ok, here is a Papyrus log. Just for you to know what i did in the game: I saved a game yesterday inside the Jarl's Longhouse in Falkreath and this game i loaded now, then i just stood there, Andrew kissed my PC and after that i logged out. Not sure which mod does all these Factionchecks before the scene happens, but the scene begins in line 323 i think. Papyrus.0.log Found the problem and uploaded a patch. Get and install it and your problems should be resolved. Hi! Just wanted to thank the team for all the work on this mod. I particularly enjoy Andrew (dom) and Volkar. Running stable with SL 1.60.2, SL Eager NPCs, Submit (dialogue options only ... haven't tested it with the rest of Submit), and AFT. Looking forward to the new Andrew content when it is available. I note that you have graciously provided the instructions and nif files to change the faces for the female slaves; is there any chance you could include Andrew's nif and details? Thanks again to the whole team for all the hard work. Thanks for the kind words. I'll add Andrew to the nif collection sometime soon. If I forget, poke me. is there a way to skip past the rape scene but also send niri and vess to the cells so that only you proceed onwards alone? I think the console command is setstage MiaDungeonCapture 60 That will avoid all that stuff and put you at the stage where you pull the lever to get past the gas trap. This must be done BEFORE triggering the trap to work the best.
Guest Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 hmm, the mod sounds really promising. but i use the UUNP body. i guess the piercings will look weird. someone was working on a conversation. so i wait until it's done.
fishburger67 Posted September 15, 2015 Author Posted September 15, 2015 hmm, the mod sounds really promising. but i use the UUNP body. i guess the piercings will look weird. someone was working on a conversation. so i wait until it's done. I think the piercings will be fine on UUNP. I did not use the nipple piercings just to avoid this problem.
Pinute Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 hmm, the mod sounds really promising. but i use the UUNP body. i guess the piercings will look weird. someone was working on a conversation. so i wait until it's done. The exciters fit just fine on the UNP, UNPB or 7B standard build from UUNP since those three bodies all have near identical waist, butt crack and belly shapes. I'm using them on a UUNP-UNP build with a slightly modified upper body and they fit just like they should. If you modify your naked body by adjusting any of the bodyslide or in game racemorph settings that affect those areas the exciters probably will clip or float away from the body, depending on just what adjustments you make.
Pinute Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 hmm, the mod sounds really promising. but i use the UUNP body. i guess the piercings will look weird. someone was working on a conversation. so i wait until it's done. I think the piercings will be fine on UUNP. I did not use the nipple piercings just to avoid this problem. The WIP mentioned above has nipple (and navel) ornaments that work just fine with UUNP. It's a modification of one built for CBBE bodyslide, which pretty much takes care of most current use cases. When it's done, you will have a whole new world of possible ornamentation for our slaves. I'll post some pictures of Jenny decked out in her regalia later today. On my subject, I'll be giving Andrew a checkout. On another subject, I'm pretty sure you mentioned using sexchange on an npc to test Jenny and Sasha as a male. Would it be necessary to re-run the starting quests after the change, or does it work well if I changed at this point?
aqqh Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 On my subject, I'll be giving Andrew a checkout. On another subject, I'm pretty sure you mentioned using sexchange on an npc to test Jenny and Sasha as a male. Would it be necessary to re-run the starting quests after the change, or does it work well if I changed at this point? why on earth do you want to turn em into males especially that most likely you would just give them male body but their heads would remain female (unless you would do this changes in Creation Kit). it might have been mentioned about how they behave as futanari or something. But into male? i see no point. at all.
Dave0000 Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 i dont know if someone noticed that or already sayd something about it but under download you have load order files... they are completely useles because the ESP file in the archive is a master file so you cant adjust it in mod organizer... i would better prefer a esm master maybe because i used to it. And sometimes if i use dialogue option on npc i dont get any sound, i mean this dialogue (Ooo...).
Pinute Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 On my subject, I'll be giving Andrew a checkout. On another subject, I'm pretty sure you mentioned using sexchange on an npc to test Jenny and Sasha as a male. Would it be necessary to re-run the starting quests after the change, or does it work well if I changed at this point? why on earth do you want to turn em into males especially that most likely you would just give them male body but their heads would remain female (unless you would do this changes in Creation Kit). it might have been mentioned about how they behave as futanari or something. But into male? i see no point. at all. um, 'a male'. Me. Fishburger designed them around being played with a male PC and I want the 'full experience' Edit: ah, I see I said npc when I meant pc. Sorry about that.
fishburger67 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Posted September 16, 2015 hmm, the mod sounds really promising. but i use the UUNP body. i guess the piercings will look weird. someone was working on a conversation. so i wait until it's done. I think the piercings will be fine on UUNP. I did not use the nipple piercings just to avoid this problem. The WIP mentioned above has nipple (and navel) ornaments that work just fine with UUNP. It's a modification of one built for CBBE bodyslide, which pretty much takes care of most current use cases. When it's done, you will have a whole new world of possible ornamentation for our slaves. I'll post some pictures of Jenny decked out in her regalia later today. On my subject, I'll be giving Andrew a checkout. On another subject, I'm pretty sure you mentioned using sexchange on an npc to test Jenny and Sasha as a male. Would it be necessary to re-run the starting quests after the change, or does it work well if I changed at this point? No idea about the sex change stuff. Edit: Oops, didn't see your following post. I frequently use showracemenu to change my PCs default male to female so I can test Andrew. It works fine and as long as you just change the sex, you don't loose anything. i dont know if someone noticed that or already sayd something about it but under download you have load order files... they are completely useles because the ESP file in the archive is a master file so you cant adjust it in mod organizer... i would better prefer a esm master maybe because i used to it. And sometimes if i use dialogue option on npc i dont get any sound, i mean this dialogue (Ooo...). Yep, those files are old. As you noted, the esp is really an esm in disguise and it goes toward the bottom of the other masters.
Dave0000 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 i dont know if someone noticed that or already sayd something about it but under download you have load order files... they are completely useles because the ESP file in the archive is a master file so you cant adjust it in mod organizer... i would better prefer a esm master maybe because i used to it. And sometimes if i use dialogue option on npc i dont get any sound, i mean this dialogue (Ooo...). Yep, those files are old. As you noted, the esp is really an esm in disguise and it goes toward the bottom of the other masters. The loot places it somewhere in the middle... i have changed it now, is that a right position?: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel.esm hdtHighHeel.esm RaceCompatibility.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm SexLab.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm EFFCore.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm SexLabAroused.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Inn Girls Resources.esm Raven UKC.esm paradise_halls.esm BodyTypes.esm RemArmorMulti.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm MiasLair.esp
OldGuy879 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 BugPatch is now available Install this patch over version 5.2. This patch fixes a problem where Andrew acts weird at game startup (what he does weird depends on what you did with him last before saving). This is a manditory download for anyone using Andrew Also updated the home page with warning about using Sex Slaves for Vanilla Bandit Camps, Creature Framework and Immersive Creature, and Sexlab Attraction and Sexlab Approach when using Sexlab 1.6. I personally would avoid using any of these unless you really want the functionality they provide. If you are using them, read OldGuy879's warnings before you decide to keep them. Special thanks to OldGuy879 forfor his work as well as Aqqh and Buffmutti for pointing out a serious bug. You are welcome fishburger I just hope it helps making other gameplay enjoyable without too many problems Sexlab attraction and approach just needs a little love and update then I will try them out again CF and MNC are both getting love and update so perhaps in time they get the bug iron I will note though that I have more then once completed Sexslave without any problems from CF other then some delays or hicups so I will stil be using them in my playthrues Thanks for the quick fix how does Andrew like a Werewolf girl ( lastest char ) I wonder. @fishburger67 I do have a question fishburger how does the NPCs like Jenny and Sasha react to the AFT "transformation" option that there is for vampire and werewolf if you are one ?
Buffmutti Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Well, installed the Bugfix and now i have to see if this solved the problem. I had to start a new game, because the old ones lead to a CTD whenever i tried to load them.
fishburger67 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Posted September 16, 2015 @fishburger67 I do have a question fishburger how does the NPCs like Jenny and Sasha react to the AFT "transformation" option that there is for vampire and werewolf if you are one ? They should not react at all except that there is dialog in the new release something like "I like you better without all the hair" when doing a werewolf transformation i dont know if someone noticed that or already sayd something about it but under download you have load order files... they are completely useles because the ESP file in the archive is a master file so you cant adjust it in mod organizer... i would better prefer a esm master maybe because i used to it. And sometimes if i use dialogue option on npc i dont get any sound, i mean this dialogue (Ooo...). Yep, those files are old. As you noted, the esp is really an esm in disguise and it goes toward the bottom of the other masters. The loot places it somewhere in the middle... i have changed it now, is that a right position?: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel.esm hdtHighHeel.esm RaceCompatibility.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm SexLab.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm EFFCore.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm SexLabAroused.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Inn Girls Resources.esm Raven UKC.esm paradise_halls.esm BodyTypes.esm RemArmorMulti.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm MiasLair.esp I don't know that it matters in relation to mst of these, just so long as it is below it's dependents.
Czanrei Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 This mod was working great until recently for some unknown reason. Every time any of the slaves in training have an orgasm after the ecstasy spell, the game CTDs. As I mentioned, the game was working great and had no conflicting mods installed and even updated this mod to the current version and it did not fix the problem. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm TERAArmors.esm hdtHighHeel.esm EFFCore.esm AzarHair.esm RaceCompatibility.esm SC_Drow Race.esm SexLab.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm SexLabAroused.esm CreatureFramework.esm HentaiPregnancy.esm Children+SoulGems.esm MiasLair.esp SkyUI.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp TradeBarter.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Footprints.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp Tembtra Thief Armor.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp Cassandra Frost Witch.esp Cum Shot Brothel.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Gwelda Armor Pack.esp TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp FNISspells.esp Animal Tweaks.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp HentaiCreatures.esp Cloaks.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp EFFDialogue.esp UIExtensions.esp Convenient Horses.esp ElementalArrows.esp RavenCastle.esp DA_Skyship.esp kankaraya.esp SamuraiBlades.esp Children+SoulGemsDragonborn.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Neo's Oriental Dress.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp XPMSE.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp elucidator.esp Killable Children.esp DragonsDiversified.esp Dragons Diversified Dragonborn Patch.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp TW3 Ciri.esp sextoys-calyps-2.esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp Sabrina.esp Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp LaraCroftDefaultHair.esp JessicaAlbaDemonHunter.esp MeganFox.esp CiriOutfit.esp Brows.esp Bikini-MTM.esp Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp CiriHair.esp Witcher 3 Style Armor.esp iorvethlightarmor_v_1_3.esp Shields_of_the_northern_kingdoms.esp W2_HelmetPack-2.esp W2_HelmetPack.esp yennefer test.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp zzjayHentaisConversions.esp Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp JContainers-optional_installation_validator.esp SexLab TDFAP - Requiem Blue Aura Fix.esp NewmillerPiercings2.esp NewmillerPiercings3.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp **Edit: removed inactive mods previously listed or mods managed by Mod Organizer, i.e.; HighResTexturePack01-03 & Unofficial High Resolution Patch**
aqqh Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 This mod was working great until recently for some unknown reason. Every time any of the slaves in training have an orgasm after the ecstasy spell, the game CTDs. As I mentioned, the game was working great and had no conflicting mods installed and even updated this mod to the current version and it did not fix the problem. which version of sexlab do you have installed? because a few other ppl mentioned a CTD after masturbation scenes already so it doesnt sound like just skyrim being skyrim anymore.
Czanrei Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 This mod was working great until recently for some unknown reason. Every time any of the slaves in training have an orgasm after the ecstasy spell, the game CTDs. As I mentioned, the game was working great and had no conflicting mods installed and even updated this mod to the current version and it did not fix the problem. which version of sexlab do you have installed? because a few other ppl mentioned a CTD after masturbation scenes already so it doesnt sound like just skyrim being skyrim anymore. I currently have Sexlab 1.59. I have tried other saves not using any content from Mias Lair and the game does not CTD. Granted, I have not tried having a character masturbate outside of Mias Lair so there is that.
Czanrei Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 I now tried having a character masturbate outside of Mias Lair in another part of the world on a different save and the game did not CTD as before on the other save. Edit: I have updated Sexlab to 1.6 and still having CTD inside Mias Lair.
fishburger67 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Posted September 18, 2015 I now tried having a character masturbate outside of Mias Lair in another part of the world on a different save and the game did not CTD as before on the other save. Edit: I have updated Sexlab to 1.6 and still having CTD inside Mias Lair. 1.6 is a bit more load on your system. Move back to 1.59c. Except for Dual Sheath Redux, I don't see any mods I recognize as problematic. For that reason, try cleaning your save with PDT first to see if that clears things up for you. If not, try removing Dual Sheath. If that does not work, try posting your load order on Sacremas's forum and see if he has any advice.
cecik Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 @Czanrei Took a quick glance at your loadorder and noticed 2 things which raised my eyebrows. I suggest you make the following changes in your loadorder: - place 'MoreNastyCritters.esp' before 'SexLabNudeCreatures.esp' - place 'dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp' before 'XPMSE.esp' I'm not saying this will solve your current problem with the CTD's, but it will most likely prevent other issues in future
Czanrei Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Thanks for everyone's advice so far. I have downloaded PDT and looking into that. I also changed my load order Cecik. I had originally been relying on LOOT to adjust my load order, but will give this a try.
pewp43 Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 I've been searching for over an hour now and can't find it anywhere. I need the QuestID for "On the Trail..." It doesn't show up in ShowQuestTargets and no matter how creative I am using search engines I can't find it in the forums. Vess is halfway through training but the "On the Trail..." quest is still at "Take Vess to Volkar and begin her training." All I need to do is SetStage in order to fix it but I can't for the life of me find the ID anywhere. Please help.
HounDog Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 This mod was working great until recently for some unknown reason. Every time any of the slaves in training have an orgasm after the ecstasy spell, the game CTDs. As I mentioned, the game was working great and had no conflicting mods installed and even updated this mod to the current version and it did not fix the problem. which version of sexlab do you have installed? because a few other ppl mentioned a CTD after masturbation scenes already so it doesnt sound like just skyrim being skyrim anymore. I've had this issue since the earliest versions but the occurrence is not consistent so i never reported it, For example at some point i casted lust explosion on 8 actors at the same time and had no issue, but on the other hand it is not possible for me to go through a full training session in volkars dungeon whitout the game crashing at least twice. In another ocasssion i had one of the girls start an orgy on a packed tavern (10 actors or so + my party of 4) so there was a lot of stuff going around and the game only crashed when one of the slaves went into ecstasy. i always know when it is ecstasy related because the CTD occurs in the middle of the solo animation and not at the beginning as most other sexlab ctds occur. I noticed that using space to advance the scene or reducing the time of the individual stages worsens the issue so as a workaround i usually wait the full 2 minutes before doing any interactions on NPCs that go through ecstasy. I do not think it is related to the masturbation event but to the magic/electricity effect the spell adds but as i said, it is not consistent enough for me to provide useful information.
fishburger67 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 This mod was working great until recently for some unknown reason. Every time any of the slaves in training have an orgasm after the ecstasy spell, the game CTDs. As I mentioned, the game was working great and had no conflicting mods installed and even updated this mod to the current version and it did not fix the problem. which version of sexlab do you have installed? because a few other ppl mentioned a CTD after masturbation scenes already so it doesnt sound like just skyrim being skyrim anymore. I've had this issue since the earliest versions but the occurrence is not consistent so i never reported it, For example at some point i casted lust explosion on 8 actors at the same time and had no issue, but on the other hand it is not possible for me to go through a full training session in volkars dungeon whitout the game crashing at least twice. In another ocasssion i had one of the girls start an orgy on a packed tavern (10 actors or so + my party of 4) so there was a lot of stuff going around and the game only crashed when one of the slaves went into ecstasy. i always know when it is ecstasy related because the CTD occurs in the middle of the solo animation and not at the beginning as most other sexlab ctds occur. I noticed that using space to advance the scene or reducing the time of the individual stages worsens the issue so as a workaround i usually wait the full 2 minutes before doing any interactions on NPCs that go through ecstasy. I do not think it is related to the masturbation event but to the magic/electricity effect the spell adds but as i said, it is not consistent enough for me to provide useful information. That "magic effect" is nothing more than a vanilla ShockFxShader. Nothing complex about it at all. You, and everyone else with the issue has a papyrus overload issue. Here is the sum total of the script involved. Note that my code ends when Sexlab masturbation starts: event OnEffectStart(actor target, actor caster) ; Attempt to register the targeted actor into our Slots array on the other script. ;debug.notification("Lust Explosion effect ended") SexLabFramework sl = SexLab as SexLabFramework Actor[] sexActors = new Actor[1] sexActors[0] = target ;;sexActors[1] = PlayerRef leActor = target ;sexActors = SexLab.SortActors(sexActors) Debug.SendAnimationEvent( target, "IdleForceDefaultState") sslBaseAnimation[] anims = new sslBaseAnimation[1] if(target.GetLeveledActorBase().GetSex() == 0) pSexSlaveFramework.randomSexForTwo(caster, target) else RegisterForModEvent("StageStart_LEMasturbate", "LEMasturbateStageStart") RegisterForModEvent("OrgasmStart_LEMasturbate", "LEMasturbateFinished") anims[0] = SexLab.GetAnimationByName("Bleagh Female Masturbation") int id = sl.StartSex(sexActors, anims, allowBed=false, hook="LEMasturbate") pSexSlaveFramework.playSexSounds(leActor) endif endEvent You will also note that "playSexSounds" is also running, but it is a simple voice moan. I've been searching for over an hour now and can't find it anywhere. I need the QuestID for "On the Trail..." It doesn't show up in ShowQuestTargets and no matter how creative I am using search engines I can't find it in the forums. Vess is halfway through training but the "On the Trail..." quest is still at "Take Vess to Volkar and begin her training." All I need to do is SetStage in order to fix it but I can't for the life of me find the ID anywhere. Please help. The quest id you seek is AQSS_MiaVessInter. The stage you are at is 342. I expect that you need to finish the Volkar training for the stage to advance, but Aqqh would have to confirm that.
aqqh Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I've been searching for over an hour now and can't find it anywhere. I need the QuestID for "On the Trail..." It doesn't show up in ShowQuestTargets and no matter how creative I am using search engines I can't find it in the forums. Vess is halfway through training but the "On the Trail..." quest is still at "Take Vess to Volkar and begin her training." All I need to do is SetStage in order to fix it but I can't for the life of me find the ID anywhere. Please help. The quest id you seek is AQSS_MiaVessInter. The stage you are at is 342. I expect that you need to finish the Volkar training for the stage to advance, but Aqqh would have to confirm that. 340 - decide what to do with vess 342 - take her to Volkar if you decide to enslave her as soon as you pass her over to volkar quest should advance to 350 (if you got Niri around) or 400 (if not). 400 is just a cleanup which leads to 500 - quest complete. so pewp43 - if you started her training and quest did not advance to "decide what to do with Niri" or complete then either something did not work properly or you somehow have started Vess training in unintended way. I guess if you do setstage aqss_miavessinter 350 (or 400) it should work fine.
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