aqqh Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Would be nice if slaves would have some personality. For example for some it would be possible to train them to be more submissive than others. Some time ago i was planning to do that for Vess. Who knows - maybe that would still happen somehow. I use slave tats and you can put tattoos on both yourself and NPC's, that's the purpose of it, it's a pretty cool mod. You don't need another mod to accomplish that. Thus if someone wants to tattoo their slave with that mod they can easily and freely do so. -C Then whats a problem then if anyone can apply whatever tat they want to any NPC? Because i dont rly get it. If this can be done so easily then i dont see a point in adding it to ML by default. Things like that are a matter of personal tastes. So imo it would be better if ppl would do it themselves.
Old Book Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Finally played through using a female character. There was a hell of a lot of dialog I hadn't seen before. On this run through I was running into one bug. If I activated an NPC before that NPC initiated quest dialog (Sasha and the slave trader Dremora), the quest wouldn't fire (Sasha wouldn't tell her story and her quest couldn't be completed, the slave trading dremora wouldn't tell the character to see Volkar). Fixable by reloading and waiting for the NPC to initiate dialog. I suspect this is a problem with my install.
rypley Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 hello,I see on the map a house called "Bulwark Hunting Lodge" I guess it is related to Andrew. A quest ? If so, how do we get ?
fred200 Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Is the Niri voice actress gone for good, or is there still a chance you can cajole some more lines out of her? Like - a lot of lines... Her voice would be hard to find a replacement for, and I really hope to see the Niri part developed.
aqqh Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 hello,I see on the map a house called "Bulwark Hunting Lodge" I guess it is related to Andrew. A quest ? If so, how do we get ? That's a part of upcoming update - its not finished yet. Is the Niri voice actress gone for good, or is there still a chance you can cajole some more lines out of her? Like - a lot of lines... Her voice would be hard to find a replacement for, and I really hope to see the Niri part developed. No idea. Really. When i asked her before it sounded that she is willing to record them. I've sent her first batch of lines like a month ago. Now - last online 21st of june.
fishburger67 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Posted July 16, 2015 chadorjan, on 15 Jul 2015 - 2:29 PM, said: The training of a sex slave takes a long time, even at the lowest setting and it involves rape, whipping and torture. You meant this to appeal to the sadistic nature of a player, and even if you're not sadistic you buy into it because after all it's only a game. And besides, it's not the player, it's the Dragonborn doing all this. But it establishes the Dragonborn as a sadistic, domineering type. After the training the slaves change. They love their master, love sex etc. The slaves change but here's the rub. The Dragonborn is still the same s.o.b. that whipped these girls for days. The Dragonborn hasn't changed. So if this sadistic dom orders a slave to kneel, just how is this immersion breaking? What is immersion breaking is if you couldn't do at least that. You can't expect the player to think sadistic while training and then back to normal as if nothing has happened. Again, I'm not looking for a BDSM relationship with these girls, all I would like to do is to be able to establish my dominance through some simple interactions. edit: If I'm the only one who would like to see this, then let's not do it, so it would be nice to hear from other people. I wasn't talking about the actual idles themselves being immersion breaking. Idles are just that, they put the NPC in some static pose. That works fine when used in a script with some dialog and such but when you do it from an dialog command, they just enter the pose and stay there until another dialog tells them to do something else. That is what I meant by immersion breaking. I like to do stuff as realistic as possible. So, for example, I would want you to tell you slave to beg and then she would kneel and plead with you for something and then do something else on her own to break the idle. That's the kind of thing I am talking about. If you can think up scenes like this that don't involve dialog putting slaves in poses, I'll be happy to add that stuff. If you want your slaves to pose, there are several good pose mods already. Would be nice if slaves would have some personality. For example for some it would be possible to train them to be more submissive than others. Some time ago i was planning to do that for Vess. Who knows - maybe that would still happen somehow. I use slave tats and you can put tattoos on both yourself and NPC's, that's the purpose of it, it's a pretty cool mod. You don't need another mod to accomplish that. Thus if someone wants to tattoo their slave with that mod they can easily and freely do so. -C Then whats a problem then if anyone can apply whatever tat they want to any NPC? Because i dont rly get it. If this can be done so easily then i dont see a point in adding it to ML by default. Things like that are a matter of personal tastes. So imo it would be better if ppl would do it themselves. I agree on all counts Aqqh. It would be absolutely lovely if all the slaves have their own personality traits. Lets talk about it. And yes, if you can easily apply tatoos with the base mod, why spend the time adding something specific to Sex Slaves? Finally played through using a female character. There was a hell of a lot of dialog I hadn't seen before. On this run through I was running into one bug. If I activated an NPC before that NPC initiated quest dialog (Sasha and the slave trader Dremora), the quest wouldn't fire (Sasha wouldn't tell her story and her quest couldn't be completed, the slave trading dremora wouldn't tell the character to see Volkar). Fixable by reloading and waiting for the NPC to initiate dialog. I suspect this is a problem with my install. Thank you sir, I'll have a look at this and see if there is a path where the quests will not start as you describe.
adiktdtololi Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 ok.. ive played though some of the quest killed Nila/Mila/Lila? cant remember, the girl that was the leader of that underground slavery ring. And decided "im the captain of this shit now". Went to velkor or something and try'd to make the kidnapped nord my slave. Ive been beating and fucking this bitch for 3hours... (real time) and not once did the option change to where i can tell the fucking bitch to masturbate >.>.. Ive try'd changing the girl, try'd Vess still same been beating the shit out of her for 1hour and still no change >.>.... is there a console or setting command to reduce the difficulty of training this damn npc's?? >.>
MallaVelve Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 ok.. ive played though some of the quest killed Nila/Mila/Lila? cant remember, the girl that was the leader of that underground slavery ring. And decided "im the captain of this shit now". Went to velkor or something and try'd to make the kidnapped nord my slave. Ive been beating and fucking this bitch for 3hours... (real time) and not once did the option change to where i can tell the fucking bitch to masturbate >.>.. Ive try'd changing the girl, try'd Vess still same been beating the shit out of her for 1hour and still no change >.>.... is there a console or setting command to reduce the difficulty of training this damn npc's?? >.> Seriously, read the Main Post. This question, and answer, is also all over the forum posts. There is an MCM option to change the time required to make a slave. Also this mod goes by two names SexLab Sex Slaves and Mia's Lair. Even though I answered your question please read the Main Page. It has a ton of useful information and will answer any future questions you may have. If not, ask away.
fishburger67 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Posted July 16, 2015 ok.. ive played though some of the quest killed Nila/Mila/Lila? cant remember, the girl that was the leader of that underground slavery ring. And decided "im the captain of this shit now". Went to velkor or something and try'd to make the kidnapped nord my slave. Ive been beating and fucking this bitch for 3hours... (real time) and not once did the option change to where i can tell the fucking bitch to masturbate >.>.. Ive try'd changing the girl, try'd Vess still same been beating the shit out of her for 1hour and still no change >.>.... is there a console or setting command to reduce the difficulty of training this damn npc's?? >.> Nope, no console command, but there is an MCM menu to decrease the time required from 20 hours to 2. Also, for Mia, make sure you get Volkar to put her on one of the training devices. It lowers their willpower to zero
Leeyds4LLTS Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 Hello everyone =) Thanks to all who work hard to make this such a great mod! I just had to share that I am really enjoying Andrew as a dominant =) I am enjoying how he changes over time!
fishburger67 Posted July 17, 2015 Author Posted July 17, 2015 Hello everyone =) Thanks to all who work hard to make this such a great mod! I just had to share that I am really enjoying Andrew as a dominant =) I am enjoying how he changes over time! Thanks for the kinds words. However, in a month or so, he will be much more dynamic, so stay tuned. I am working on some radiant quests for Sasha and Jenny and as soon as that's done. I'll get back on Andrew.
Thanos Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 > If you can think up scenes like this that don't involve dialog putting slaves in poses, I'll be happy to add that stuff. Just some thoughts regarding this: Idle markers in the palace which are tied to some submissive poses might be an idea. Like kneeling or lying on the floor spots around the beds or in front of the throne or maybe a "dominant" looking statue with the praying idle in front. Could be used by any idling npc in the area (which might be good or bad, depending on what you like). Also something I'd find interesting but might be hard to do: Having the slaves kneel or sit on the floor when the player sits on a chair/throne. I've noticed that the Vilja mod seems to recognize when you sit on a throne since she actually says something like "I bow to your honor my jarl" in those cases. Also when you sit on a chair or throne you can tell her to sit on your lap, which serves no purpose besides roleplaying but it is a cool feature. Maybe something the slaves could do without any new dialogue is using specific "seductive" idles during their lines that try to convince you to "do something naughty"? > If you want your slaves to pose, there are several good pose mods already. Out of curiousity: Do you know any you could recommend? There's the FNIS-spell addon for simple posing (sadly hard to navigate poses and not really immersive imho) and "I'll take the display model" which I like but is more of a permanent "stay in that pose forever" mod for decorating places with prisoner type NPCs.
Old Book Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 I am working on some radiant quests for Sasha and Jenny This is great news. If you are adding these, could you share some of what you have in mind?
fishburger67 Posted July 17, 2015 Author Posted July 17, 2015 I am working on some radiant quests for Sasha and Jenny This is great news. If you are adding these, could you share some of what you have in mind? Sorry, but you won't have to wait long. God willing and the creek don't rise, I'll have it done next week assuming the voice acting is finished. > If you can think up scenes like this that don't involve dialog putting slaves in poses, I'll be happy to add that stuff. Just some thoughts regarding this: Idle markers in the palace which are tied to some submissive poses might be an idea. Like kneeling or lying on the floor spots around the beds or in front of the throne or maybe a "dominant" looking statue with the praying idle in front. Could be used by any idling npc in the area (which might be good or bad, depending on what you like). Also something I'd find interesting but might be hard to do: Having the slaves kneel or sit on the floor when the player sits on a chair/throne. I've noticed that the Vilja mod seems to recognize when you sit on a throne since she actually says something like "I bow to your honor my jarl" in those cases. Also when you sit on a chair or throne you can tell her to sit on your lap, which serves no purpose besides roleplaying but it is a cool feature. Maybe something the slaves could do without any new dialogue is using specific "seductive" idles during their lines that try to convince you to "do something naughty"? > If you want your slaves to pose, there are several good pose mods already. Out of curiousity: Do you know any you could recommend? There's the FNIS-spell addon for simple posing (sadly hard to navigate poses and not really immersive imho) and "I'll take the display model" which I like but is more of a permanent "stay in that pose forever" mod for decorating places with prisoner type NPCs. I like the idea of kneeling when the master is sitting on a a throne and it is fairly easy to detect. The only issue is getting the kneeling to take place without markers. I'll have to check into that. I can actually detect lots of things like using a forge or alchemy table or being in a certain place or sitting in a chair etc.
olonolo Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 I wasn't talking about the actual idles themselves being immersion breaking. Idles are just that, they put the NPC in some static pose. That works fine when used in a script with some dialog and such but when you do it from an dialog command, they just enter the pose and stay there until another dialog tells them to do something else. That is what I meant by immersion breaking. I like to do stuff as realistic as possible. So, for example, I would want you to tell you slave to beg and then she would kneel and plead with you for something and then do something else on her own to break the idle. That's the kind of thing I am talking about. If you can think up scenes like this that don't involve dialog putting slaves in poses, I'll be happy to add that stuff. If you want your slaves to pose, there are several good pose mods already. Okay Fish, fair enough and I understand what you're saying. For me to think up ideas along the lines that you're suggesting I would have to know what assets are available, and be tech savvy enough to know what is possible. That's not going to happen because I'm about as green as you can get. Not to mention if it would involve voice acting, and I know you don't like using Fuz. My main thought was to throw some dominant/submissive content into the game, so perhaps in a simplistic way I thought of adding a few idles- slave tied up by the bed, kneeling by your chair, that sort of thing.
adiktdtololi Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 ok.. ive played though some of the quest killed Nila/Mila/Lila? cant remember, the girl that was the leader of that underground slavery ring. And decided "im the captain of this shit now". Went to velkor or something and try'd to make the kidnapped nord my slave. Ive been beating and fucking this bitch for 3hours... (real time) and not once did the option change to where i can tell the fucking bitch to masturbate >.>.. Ive try'd changing the girl, try'd Vess still same been beating the shit out of her for 1hour and still no change >.>.... is there a console or setting command to reduce the difficulty of training this damn npc's?? >.> Seriously, read the Main Post. This question, and answer, is also all over the forum posts. There is an MCM option to change the time required to make a slave. Also this mod goes by two names SexLab Sex Slaves and Mia's Lair. Even though I answered your question please read the Main Page. It has a ton of useful information and will answer any future questions you may have. If not, ask away. O_O.. ive checked the MCM.. there wasnt any option like a slider or anything of that description in the options for this mod... i only saw checkbox and thats it O_O.... Update: welp.. that was weird after you saying there was more options i checked and i didnt see anymore.. so i friking un-installed and reinstalled the mod + SKSE and it finally friking showed up >.>
SkyRyder93 Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 yeah Jenny and sasha are my favorite girls linda is also good but her moans of pleasure are mainly mixtures of sasha and jenny's still love em
MallaVelve Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 ok.. ive played though some of the quest killed Nila/Mila/Lila? cant remember, the girl that was the leader of that underground slavery ring. And decided "im the captain of this shit now". Went to velkor or something and try'd to make the kidnapped nord my slave. Ive been beating and fucking this bitch for 3hours... (real time) and not once did the option change to where i can tell the fucking bitch to masturbate >.>.. Ive try'd changing the girl, try'd Vess still same been beating the shit out of her for 1hour and still no change >.>.... is there a console or setting command to reduce the difficulty of training this damn npc's?? >.> Seriously, read the Main Post. This question, and answer, is also all over the forum posts. There is an MCM option to change the time required to make a slave. Also this mod goes by two names SexLab Sex Slaves and Mia's Lair. Even though I answered your question please read the Main Page. It has a ton of useful information and will answer any future questions you may have. If not, ask away. O_O.. ive checked the MCM.. there wasnt any option like a slider or anything of that description in the options for this mod... i only saw checkbox and thats it O_O.... Update: welp.. that was weird after you saying there was more options i checked and i didnt see anymore.. so i friking un-installed and reinstalled the mod + SKSE and it finally friking showed up >.> good to hear!
magicrealm Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 would be nice to have an option when to start the quest. getting a letter from the jarl just started in riverwood is as senseless as the vanilla dlc letters. house carl i need your body appears even if npc dialogues are disabled in mcm. if that is on purpose, i dont understand the purpose.
Fredfish Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 Getting the letter right at the start was to allow the testers to start Mia's Lair easily on a new game rather than power level up to level 15. I assume it will be changed back at some later date to better match the players level.
aqqh Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 At some point i will make starting quest more friendly for low level characters (and introduce a new actor). This letter would be simply rewritten - Jarl would be looking for skilled individuals to assist her in a matter of grave importance. She would have no idea that you are a dragonborn. Instead of a letter written personally to you it would be a message to all adventurers of Skyrim.
Old Book Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 Maybe instead of a letter it could be a bounty note handed out by innkeepers? Or just found in various inns, and the quest starts when you read the note?
aqqh Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 Would work just as well. Courier dialogue of "letter from friend of yours" wont fit anymore anyway.
xsorab2 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I have an idea! Since you found a fitting voice actor for sanguine, how about an expansion for main quest "A night to remember"? I mean its "Night" to remember
fishburger67 Posted July 18, 2015 Author Posted July 18, 2015 I have an idea! Since you found a fitting voice actor for sanguine, how about an expansion for main quest "A night to remember"? I mean its "Night" to remember Sounds like a good idea. Aqqh has one thing going and I have two. After we get those done, perhaps we can do something with that.
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