SexLab Sex Slaves 6.2 December 06, 2016

[swmas]

 

 

No I mean mechanically, how does it work code-wise, what does the mod do to turn NPC into slaves, is it possible to do with console commands?

 

It applies sexslave faction, changes outfit. Guess it can be done via console tho i've never tried it.

Basic problem you would face trying to do so on for example Elisif - this wont stop her from following her vanilla daily routine.

So she would still spent her time in blue palaceand even if you recruit her as follower she most likely be comming back to blue palace

but i guess she would serve you sexually whenever you ask for it.

Also for elisif changing her relationship rank (and this may happen - i'm not sure) makes a mess with vanilla quests.

 

I guess.  i've never tried it.

 

 

I know, I changed her relationship with submit's dialogue option and I couldn't become thane so yeah it does screw up quests.

I don't want Elisif following me around I just want to give the imperial scums the queen they deserve.

[Sacremas]

I can confirm that it breaks various quests, for Elisif if you raise her disposition without doing the Wolf Skull quest she thinks you've done it and gives you the horn, if you'd make her a sex slave it would break that whole questline incuding getting Proudspire, and presumably break the final quest of Stormcloak Civil War as well, and maybe break Diplomatic Immunity. Elenwen is even worse, you break Diplomatic Immunity and you break the later part of negotiatng as well if she doesn't do what she normally should during that meeting (which is heavily scripted and can break very easily). Generally unless you plan on ignoring the rest of the game and just focusing on your sex slaves, don't take ANY essential-marked NPC at all, just 'disposable' ones that you could have just slaughtered if you wanted to, like for example Ysolda or Taarie (minor, useless quests).

 

If you want to make sweet luvin to Elisif check out Sexlab Solutions (sex reward every night after 12 after handing in the Horn) or even better Amorous Adventures for an awesome questline about her (voiced sex dalogue, multiple sex scenes, and in the end you can request sex from her as well as muliple other NPCs like Jordis and Sybille Stenthor at any time, like asking to fuck them up the ass and having them reply in the original voice actor's voice "make it hurt, but not too much").

[darkminxi]

So I added a potion from the console, drank it, and I'm totally confused. Volkar says he branded and pierced my pussy (um, dude, I don't have one of those). The journal says I'm supposed to read a contract, but I don't have one of those either.  There seem to be two "Bondage Contract" items available, they look like copies of one another, and they say "between 'Master' and ..." that's it, no more text.

 

I'm just going to leave this alone. I'm not sure it's actually a quest I'm interested in, and I don't really understand how this is supposed to work for a male PC.

 

I think, like Fishburger said, giving yourself a potion might have messed things up somewhat.

 

Also, I'm very sorry, I've been testing this with only my female character that I play. I was actually going to roll a male character to run through it and see what bugs etc I could find today.

 

Before we developed Volkar and his questline, there wasn't really too much content in the mod for a female player - unless they had lesbian tendencies and/or liked to rape and be raped and have sex with female NPC's.

 

The whole Volkar quest-line is predominately for females. Fish asked me to tell him what I, as a female player would like to see in the mod.

He's such a nice guy, he wanted to put in more content for female players so we could have as much fun playing the mod as male players.

You see, for males, they have their slaves and their slave training. Their naked sex-hungry slaves wandering around the Pleasure Palace that will do their bidding. They can drag innocent female NPC's down to Volkar's area and chain them up and turn them into sex-slaves.

You can still play around in the Pleasure Palace and your slaves if you don't want to "deal" with Volkar.

As a female player, with a female character, I DID want to "deal" with Volkar, very much so and I want to continue "dealing" with him for the rest of my gameplay in Skyrim.

But I totally understand why you do not. (I'm assuming) you're male with a male character, I'm female with a female character. We developed Volkar for females.

 

 

Volkar is exactly as I wanted him to be, his dialogue, his actions, the questline, the consequences of being enslaved by him, everything about this character and his quests are essentially what I wanted in Mia's Lair.

So for me, everything is quite perfect.

 

 

For a male PC, it's supposed to be essentially the same as a female PC, but Volkar does his "thang" on your female follower instead of you, the player.

It's not a questline you NEED to do - there is the option not to proceed down this submissive path with him, just don't ask him for "training" more than once, else he "assumes" your character is submissive and that's when you find yourself in the situation of being forced to submit to him in the end.

There is quite a fun quest after you get to the contract stage. So (when the bugs are fixed), if you felt like it, you could go down this route to just see how the Volkar story pans out, should you have any interest in it.

If not, it's probably best to wait for the bugs to get fixed and for the extra content to be released.

I'll do my best to spot bugs when I go in as a male character. I haven't done this, not even once yet - so again, I apologise.

 

 

 

There are plans to introduce another NPC into Mia's Lair who is not there "for the ladies", so to speak, and you won't find yourself in a situation where you have to submit to HER (unless you want to).

I won't say more right now, because I don't want to spoil it, but maybe that would be more your cup of tea than Volkar.

 

 

 

I can only say sorry again for not testing yet as a male character, but I'm working on it!

[aqqh]

So for me, everything is quite perfect.

And that's why you wrote those 26 things that you want improved? 

[edgarrice]

No need to apologize, Darkminxi. As I said, now that I've dabbled in the quest I just don't think it is to my liking. Which is fine. I find the whole "I trained your surrogate, so that means YOU are a submissive" to be terribly confusing, I'm not sure it works at all. Well, now I know and I'll just leave it be.

 

As to the potion not appearing, I started version 3.5 at character level 15, now I'm level 67 and as the hobbits would say "filling up the corners" before I put this character to rest. It could just be an artifact of introducing version 4.1 long after I did the quests in 3.5, and thus not worth debugging. If it works at all for other people it probably works just fine.

[germanicus]

Darkminxi - some weeks ago i tested male character training his slave with Volkar. I'm quite impressed with the way you did it. I PMed my impressions and some small, rather decorative suggestions (corrections) to Fishburger. I was very pleased with what I saw. Have had no single error or glitches or anything similar during the quest. The dialog lines were perfect.  Therefore, all compliments for your work.

[darkminxi]

 

So for me, everything is quite perfect.

And that's why you wrote those 26 things that you want improved? 

 

Lol, shhhhhhh!

 

No need to apologize, Darkminxi. As I said, now that I've dabbled in the quest I just don't think it is to my liking. Which is fine. I find the whole "I trained your surrogate, so that means YOU are a submissive" to be terribly confusing, I'm not sure it works at all. Well, now I know and I'll just leave it be.

 

Well I am sorry you didn't enjoy the Volkar stuff, but hopefully you will enjoy the new content when it's released!

 

It's great to have all the feedback though, because it really helps to know what players like/dislike.

Fishburger's gone to a great deal of effort listening to suggestions and trying to cater for different users with different tastes and I know there's more great stuff to come which will hopefully be more to your liking!

I do hope you come back and check it out when it's released and continue with the criticism/feedback, because positive or negative, it all helps.

 

Darkminxi - some weeks ago i tested male character training his slave with Volkar. I'm quite impressed with the way you did it. I PMed my impressions and some small, rather decorative suggestions (corrections) to Fishburger. I was very pleased with what I saw. Have had no single error or glitches or anything similar during the quest. The dialog lines were perfect.  Therefore, all compliments for your work.

 

That's good to know! I'll still take a look as a male character, so hopefully I won't find too much that needs fixed. Thanks very much for the compliment.

[edgarrice]

Still running Beta 11.

I went back to a save prior to installing 3.5 and am replaying.

Male PC.

It seems like Jenn should have more to say about Marta being sacrificed. Once she is done making the bond she drops straight into standard slave behavior. She should probably walk up to the body and say a tearful goodbye, and tell you to take her amulet if you haven't already.

When I first encountered Vernor there as a dialog option to tell him I wanted one in my mouth and another in my pussy. I'm guessing that shouldn't appear yet, and only for a female PC.

I don't think Sasha should come up and initiate a conversation as soon as I walk in. I've just got Jenn and have Mia in tow and really have my hands full. I think waving frantically and the journal entry should be plenty.

 

EDIT : I don't have Alicia with me, so it seems really odd for Mia to mention her. Also, I'm down by the door, yet Mia is talking to me from the room above. I should be able to see her before she starts talking. Perhaps just position her at the bottom of the stairs in front of the door?

[Sacremas]

I haven't tried it recently so I don't know how Andrew works, so this may be covered already, but some female on male dominatrix action would be good next whenever Fish is done with his break after the final release of this version. Wouldn't mind submitting to some light to medium femdom fun with a female dremora, and really would not mind being able to enslave male characters as a female.

 

No need to pull out the strap-on for the femdom stuff though unless you really want to, that's the lazy way out, a more appealing version for me is some whipping, pain, bondage, use that Extacy spell to force erection, then bring in female after female (or single invicible demonic female) to fuck him raw until he begs for no more sex. Yes that's highly possible, believe me, the penis is not nearly as invincible as Sexlab Wear and Tear pretends, problem is mainly keeping it erect through that as even viagra fails at some point, but with magic that's not a problem anymore! Other options is lots and lots of forced oral on the domme until you're just worn tired and numb, both possibilites interspaced with some whipping and humiliation inbtweeen. Not that a little pegging isn't fun at times, it's just that too many seems to think it's the only way to do the femdom thing.

[edgarrice]

Not that it's a big issue, but the crafting room in Mia's palace could use a wood chopping block. You need firewood for arrows.

 

I was a little surprised that I didn't return Marta's amulet to the Battle-Born guy when I got my reward. Seems like it should have some purpose, maybe giving to Jenn as a keepsake.

 

Finished through enslaving Mia and returning Allison for cash. No further issues.

[fred200]

I would like to take issue with those folks saying don't enslave important NPCs.

I have enslaved important NPCs like Elisif, Serana, Cerwiden, and Mavis with no issues at all.

The Sex Slave faction just adds dialogue options that normally don't affect quests or jobs.

Serana was a slave from the time of discovery through completion of the Vampire line, including her conversion to human. No problems.

Cerwiden, know to be problematic with mods that affect scripts, also is no problem at all. (well, I do have her last in my load order)

If there is a problem with the slave following you after dismissal, any mod that lets you assign a home fixes it. I did set Mavis' home to her home in riften, and she still hangs out in the Bee and Barb. Same for Vex in the Thieves Guild. No effect on Quests.

Easiest way to grab a temporary follower for enslaving is Puppet Master. That works on everyone.

Some fools like Frea and Mjoll volunteer to follow you after the right quest lines.

My best advice is make a save and try the NPC of interest. If you have problems, reload that save. Nothing to lose.

 

Edited to add: I have used a number of "slave" mods. A slave faction is by far the best, least disruptive technique I have seen.

I love that it can be reversed simply by removing that faction.

The worst slave mod disabled the unique NPC and moved in a clone. That one was definitely disruptive.

[fishburger67]

Input requested

 

We are very close to release.  However, there have been several comments about the inappropriateness of the Volkar dialogue for male players.   Because I won't be able to add new scenes and such for male players without breaking save games, I only have one option here and that is to remove the ability of male players to do the volkar quest line.

 

I personally, as a male player with only male toons, I would not do the Volkar quest myself  except for the fact that I get a sex slave and some niffy armor and it's a pretty fun quest.  So, I don't mind taking out all that work.

 

What do you guys think?  Take it out for male players or leave it EXACTLY AS IT IS WITH NO CHANGES.

[fishburger67]

 

Still running Beta 11.

I went back to a save prior to installing 3.5 and am replaying.

Male PC.

It seems like Jenn should have more to say about Marta being sacrificed. Once she is done making the bond she drops straight into standard slave behavior. She should probably walk up to the body and say a tearful goodbye, and tell you to take her amulet if you haven't already.

 

Really good idea,  Really really good idea.  I love this.  She does have some tearful Marta dialog at various places around Skyrim, but this scene could be a real tear jerker.

 

When I first encountered Vernor there as a dialog option to tell him I wanted one in my mouth and another in my pussy. I'm guessing that shouldn't appear yet, and only for a female PC.

This has already been reported and I thought fixed, I'll check it again.  It is for female players with a male follower.

 

 

I don't think Sasha should come up and initiate a conversation as soon as I walk in. I've just got Jenn and have Mia in tow and really have my hands full. I think waving frantically and the journal entry should be plenty.

 

I agree.  I'll see if I can fix this before release.

 

 

EDIT : I don't have Alicia with me, so it seems really odd for Mia to mention her. Also, I'm down by the door, yet Mia is talking to me from the room above. I should be able to see her before she starts talking. Perhaps just position her at the bottom of the stairs in front of the door?

This was just lazy on my part.  I have said the exact same thing to myself a dozen times.  Alas, time is limited and believe it or not, this was a complex encounter that currently works and I am loath to try and change.

 

[Guest Long John]

@fishburger67 - I have an alternative:

 

 

 

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EDIT : I don't have Alicia with me, so it seems really odd for Mia to mention her. Also, I'm down by the door, yet Mia is talking to me from the room above. I should be able to see her before she starts talking. Perhaps just position her at the bottom of the stairs in front of the door?

This was just lazy on my part.  I have said the exact same thing to myself a dozen times.  Alas, time is limited and believe it or not, this was a complex encounter that currently works and I am loath to try and change.

 

 

How about making it so that the dialogue doesn't occur until the player is at the top of the stairs in front of the throne. Also only when she is following the player (following the player check may or may not be simple) if not simple could require it being done in a patch after release.

[blueballbob]

Just got though making Mia a Sex Slave and must say this is one of the best SexLab mods I've played.  You've got voice acting, quests, animations, almost everything!  Bravo!

 

BTW:  I'm using PerkusMaximus with this mod, only issue was I had to disable the Devious and SexSlave mods in MO when running PatchusMaximus, then re-enable them after patching.  Seemed to work fine.

[Sacremas]

I wouldn't recommend running Perkus with Sexlab mods, the scripts in it are horribly bugged and cause stack dumps galore and will kill your game, only use Perkus on a very light load with extremely few script-active mods.

 

 

 

 

As for Volkar's dialogue... I would say lock it for males for now and try to revise it at a later point to be more appropriate, if anything it'll save you heaadaches later on from constant mentions of this in 2-3 pages of this thread. Better to reenable it when it's working as it should for everyone.

[edgarrice]

Volkar : I vote to release it as is. Mention potential issues in the release notes and gather feedback. It seemed so terribly broken for me that I expect it was something about dropping it into my existing game.

[Guest Long John]

@fishburger67 - Maybe not the player acting as a sex slave (if male at the moment) with the inappropriate dialog. Though another female NPC could be trained with the player talked through the process by Volkar. But the additional sex slave and armor is a nice bonus for the male character, the rest of the questline other than PC sex slave (if male) is great.

 

Keep the rest of Volkar questline (if PC male) but train another female NPC as a sex slave in a "training lesson" (replaces male player character) in current upcoming 4.x release. At least until additional appropriate male sex slave dialogue can be added that way inappropriate phrases can be avoided.

[fishburger67]

@fishburger67 - Maybe not the player acting as a sex slave (if male at the moment) with the inappropriate dialog. Though another female NPC could be trained with the player talked through the process by Volkar. But the additional sex slave and armor is a nice bonus for the male character, the rest of the questline other than PC sex slave (if male) is great.

 

Keep the rest of Volkar questline (if PC male) but train another female NPC as a sex slave in a "training lesson" (replaces male player character) in current upcoming 4.x release. At least until additional appropriate male sex slave dialogue can be added that way inappropriate phrases can be avoided.

 

Thanks for the feedback Long John.  So far it seem pretty universal to keep the male part in.  I guess I am going to do a survey of the dialog and see if I cannot replace the female phrases with gender neutral or add male phrases by chopping up what we have with Audacity.

 

[Kageryu]

Leave Volkar's bit as is. It's really fun to see Volkar train another NPC for you but I just want that part to be worked out. Maybe you can have the NPC take the potion at the end instead of you and have her become the actual sex slave.

[Guest]

Are we voting?

I sort of got addicted to volkahar and his buddies.

OK Nargor is a little strange....

The part about not showing up in a week just started,  I'm on a biggie time consuming quest, but he dragged me back in..

 

I'm anxious to trigger the sanguine-contract-tearing up thing, and then come back (willingly).

except my errand to go see vernor is broken, and he does not know what I want.

Hello? I don't want to buy any slaves vernor, what do you want??

Except the dialogue isn't there, so he mocks my sweetrolls and mumbles something about milk.

 

MIAFINDTABITHA, I think..."rescue the virgin"

Mia's dead, I'm supposed to talk to vernor, vernor's clueless.

I'm guessing I have to setstage-something...

Standing next to Vernor and typing "setstage miafindtabitha 10" started the quest.

Why I'm still writing this is,

why didn't vernor know why I was there? The quest had obviously started (Volkar sent me). The quest was at stage 0.

[Guest]

Input requested

 

We are very close to release.  However, there have been several comments about the inappropriateness of the Volkar dialogue for male players.   Because I won't be able to add new scenes and such for male players without breaking save games, I only have one option here and that is to remove the ability of male players to do the volkar quest line.

 

I personally, as a male player with only male toons, I would not do the Volkar quest myself  except for the fact that I get a sex slave and some niffy armor and it's a pretty fun quest.  So, I don't mind taking out all that work.

 

What do you guys think?  Take it out for male players or leave it EXACTLY AS IT IS WITH NO CHANGES.

 

well if you find another way to do the dark posasion quest then maybe. otherwise no... and do something with that virgin cant be that she only leaves like that.

 

[fishburger67]

Are we voting?

I sort of got addicted to volkahar and his buddies.

OK Nargor is a little strange....

The part about not showing up in a week just started,  I'm on a biggie time consuming quest, but he dragged me back in..

 

I'm anxious to trigger the sanguine-contract-tearing up thing, and then come back (willingly).

except my errand to go see vernor is broken, and he does not know what I want.

Hello? I don't want to buy any slaves vernor, what do you want??

Except the dialogue isn't there, so he mocks my sweetrolls and mumbles something about milk.

 

MIAFINDTABITHA, I think..."rescue the virgin"

Mia's dead, I'm supposed to talk to vernor, vernor's clueless.

I'm guessing I have to setstage-something...

Standing next to Vernor and typing "setstage miafindtabitha 10" started the quest.

Why I'm still writing this is,

why didn't vernor know why I was there? The quest had obviously started (Volkar sent me). The quest was at stage 0.

 

 

 

Input requested

 

We are very close to release.  However, there have been several comments about the inappropriateness of the Volkar dialogue for male players.   Because I won't be able to add new scenes and such for male players without breaking save games, I only have one option here and that is to remove the ability of male players to do the volkar quest line.

 

I personally, as a male player with only male toons, I would not do the Volkar quest myself  except for the fact that I get a sex slave and some niffy armor and it's a pretty fun quest.  So, I don't mind taking out all that work.

 

What do you guys think?  Take it out for male players or leave it EXACTLY AS IT IS WITH NO CHANGES.

 

well if you find another way to do the dark posasion quest then maybe. otherwise no... and do something with that virgin cant be that she only leaves like that.

 

 

The tabitha quest gets started the SECOND time you tell volkar you are back for more training AFTER you drink the potion.

[fred200]

Conflicting mods:

One final note about Elisif - she is a very popular target for sex mods.

These include Sex Slaves, Amorous Adventures, and Captured Dreams.

While these all work well together, and don't damage any Quests or dialogues, they do work somewhat at cross-purposes.

Sex slaves and Amorous adventures both make her available for sex.

Captured dreams leaves her in an unremovable chastity belt.

[Guest]

 

Are we voting?

I sort of got addicted to volkahar and his buddies.

OK Nargor is a little strange....

The part about not showing up in a week just started,  I'm on a biggie time consuming quest, but he dragged me back in..

 

I'm anxious to trigger the sanguine-contract-tearing up thing, and then come back (willingly).

except my errand to go see vernor is broken, and he does not know what I want.

Hello? I don't want to buy any slaves vernor, what do you want??

Except the dialogue isn't there, so he mocks my sweetrolls and mumbles something about milk.

 

MIAFINDTABITHA, I think..."rescue the virgin"

Mia's dead, I'm supposed to talk to vernor, vernor's clueless.

I'm guessing I have to setstage-something...

Standing next to Vernor and typing "setstage miafindtabitha 10" started the quest.

Why I'm still writing this is,

why didn't vernor know why I was there? The quest had obviously started (Volkar sent me). The quest was at stage 0.

 

 

 

Input requested

 

We are very close to release.  However, there have been several comments about the inappropriateness of the Volkar dialogue for male players.   Because I won't be able to add new scenes and such for male players without breaking save games, I only have one option here and that is to remove the ability of male players to do the volkar quest line.

 

I personally, as a male player with only male toons, I would not do the Volkar quest myself  except for the fact that I get a sex slave and some niffy armor and it's a pretty fun quest.  So, I don't mind taking out all that work.

 

What do you guys think?  Take it out for male players or leave it EXACTLY AS IT IS WITH NO CHANGES.

 

well if you find another way to do the dark posasion quest then maybe. otherwise no... and do something with that virgin cant be that she only leaves like that.

 

 

The tabitha quest gets started the SECOND time you tell volkar you are back for more training AFTER you drink the potion.

 

 

shit, there is more than just the rescue of her?