Soulgem Oven III

[Yuni]

/me makes all the 'woohoo' noises. "We're so close to release that it's in beta! Hooray! Thank you for your hard work!" =D *random mega-snug on darkconsole*

[sidfu]

dont forget to give us update notes for the beta that way we can test any fixx u do or know something is fixed and we dont have to look for it

[AuronXCZE]

Btw small update for everyone, do not use SGO with RND 2.2 otherwise your body will bug out on body scale update.

[darkconsole]

Btw small update for everyone, do not use SGO with RND 2.2 otherwise your body will bug out on body scale update.

 

that sounds wrong.

[Pinute]

 

Btw small update for everyone, do not use SGO with RND 2.2 otherwise your body will bug out on body scale update.

 

that sounds wrong.

 

 

RND 2.0+ (a reworking of the the original RND) scales the body based on over/under eating. It should only affect weight, though. I use iNeed nowadays when I'm playing hard core so I've not actually messed around with this one.

[darkconsole]

 

 

Btw small update for everyone, do not use SGO with RND 2.2 otherwise your body will bug out on body scale update.

 

that sounds wrong.

 

 

RND 2.0+ (a reworking of the the original RND) scales the body based on over/under eating. It should only affect weight, though. I use iNeed nowadays when I'm playing hard core so I've not actually messed around with this one.

 

 

then its still sounds wrong, because sgo doesn't touch the weight slider, because touching the weight slider causes the game to fuck up and lag.

[Reesewow]

Gave the beta a shot, and it looks good so far.  Scaling worked fine on npc or PC and there are lots of toggles and options in the MCM menu to play with to tailor the mod to specific preferences.  

 

The only minor issue I could report is that there is a notification after sex that the various types of semen effects were added to your character (squirting ect), which should probably be invisible to the player as they aren't items you can use and are only for the visual effect.

 

I'd love to see the inflation options fleshed out more down the road/later versions, if only so that this mod could replace Fill Her Up in my load order.  Looking forward to the full release!

 

 

[darkconsole]

 

The only minor issue I could report is that there is a notification after sex that the various types of semen effects were added to your character (squirting ect), which should probably be invisible to the player as they aren't items you can use and are only for the visual effect.

 

 

beta has debug messages enabled by default on the debug tab in mcm.

[Darth Omix]

Okay so I have next to no idea how to work Bodyslide and OutfitStudio and all that, but I'm slowly getting into Unified UNP, so could anyone give me some pointers of what to do to get the recommended belly weights to try out the beta?

 

Edit for clarification: I'm basically trying to figure out how to tack the belly onto a 7B Bombshell preset but I'm flailing around in the dark and can't find a guide that makes any sense.

[darkconsole]

i think i just realised what is happening for the people who think its for some reason too ahrd to get pregnant even with 100% - and i think i did it in purpose and am going to keep it this way. the fertility cycle i think can take it below 100%

[Pinute]

Okay so I have next to no idea how to work Bodyslide and OutfitStudio and all that, but I'm slowly getting into Unified UNP, so could anyone give me some pointers of what to do to get the recommended belly weights to try out the beta?

 

Edit for clarification: I'm basically trying to figure out how to tack the belly onto a 7B Bombshell preset but I'm flailing around in the dark and can't find a guide that makes any sense.

 

If you use UUNP and build the 7B Bombshell preset the belly will grow with pregnancy/cum inflation. There's no need to do anything extra.

[MeMe]

I looked at your code, amazing work. I actually laughed at the part that syncs your followers' fertility cycles to yours, I hope that makes it into SGO3 stable.

 

And if you do eventually find an animator for the dual actions, maybe you can request pregnant waddling animations that optionally replace walk and run when the move speed debuff is active. It's not important but I think it'd be fun.

 

help me think of immersion messges. i want to have at least 10 for each kind, both for player and not player. player messages should be from first person perspective, not player messages should be third person and use % to denote where the character's name should go.

 

Silly idea, 50% chance to replace "breasts" with "boobs", "tits" or rarely "udders" for some variety.

Not so silly idea, an option to show NPC comments only for relationship rank 4 npcs and/or followers.

And feel free to edit these. Hopefully this gives you even more ideas.

 

OnGemFull (Player)

Msg 3 could use a comma: "Ugh,"

"It feels like my belly's dropping... my gems must be ready."

"The gems inside me feel huge! They must be fully grown."

"If I don't give birth soon, I'll barely even be able to waddle!"

"I couldn't fit another gem in my belly if I tried."

"The gems inside my belly rearrange to be a little more comfortable."

"I feel like a beached whale with this enormous belly!"

 

OnGemFull (NPC)

"%'s belly almost seems ready to burst!"

"% is so big that she seems ready to give birth at any moment."

"It looks like %'s belly is dropping... her gems must be ready."

"If % doesn't give birth soon, she'll barely even be able to waddle!"

 

OnGemProgress (Player)

"My belly feels heavier... A gem must have grown."

"A gem shifted inside me... It feels bigger than before."

"My belly wobbles as a growing gem moves inside it."

 

OnGemProgress (NPC)

"% shifts her weight to better carry her growing belly."

"%'s belly wobbles as a growing gem moves inside it."

"%'s belly has definitely grown bigger than before."

 

OnMilkFull (Player)

Msg 7 typo: "thirsty"

"My full breasts are attracting a lot of attention."

"I can't go much longer without being milked!"

 

OnMilkFull (NPC)

"%'s full breasts are making everyone nearby a bit thirsty."

"A thin stream of milk is dribbling from %'s breasts."

"%'s heavy breasts look like they're in need of a good milking."

"% is attracting a lot of attention with her full breasts."

"% doesn't look like she can go much longer without being milked."

 

OnMilkProgress (Player)

Msg 2 could use a question mark.

"I feel a little more pressure inside my breasts."

"My breasts look and feel a little swollen."

"My thoughts briefly drift to being milked."

"I can definitely feel more milk inside me than before."

 

OnMilkProgress (NPC)

"%'s breasts look noticeably fuller."

"%'s breasts seem a little swollen."

"% looks like she's probably carrying a fair amount of milk in her breasts."

"%'s breasts seem to hang a little more heavily on her chest."

 

OnSemenFull (Player)

"My balls need relief, and soon!"

 

OnSemenFull (NPC)

"% is standing a bit uncomfortably."

 

OnSemenProgress (Player)

Msg 0 needs a period.

"My balls feel refilled and ready to go."

"My balls feel a lot less drained."

"I think my balls are ready for another round."

 

OnSemenProgress (NPC)

Uhhh... I'm really not sure what to write for this one.

"%'s balls have probably refilled a bit." ???

 

[darleath]

One fast question, is there a relationship between SkyUI and UIExtensions? By having a fast look over both nexus entries they seem to ignore each other, but I wouldn't want to crash my game for the wrong reasons (specially now that the pregnant nodes work. Dunno how it fixed itself...)

[Kelinas]

If I wasn't still fighting to get HDT and Mod Orginizer to work, I'd totally be rebuilding my SoulGem Oven/Untamed playthrough again ;-;

[bytion]

tested beta, it seems I can't find the same option for anal pregnancy as in SGO 2, cum inflation works on its own, but when combine with pregnancy, the belly node just freak out in my game, it grows randomly for everyone......

[chajapa]

When her boobs are full she says something about wondering if anyone is thirsty. Maybe it's time to add in a dialogue option for breastfeeding.

 

Just Sayin'. ....

 

In current stable, we can toggle scaling for this node or that node on or off and still keep gems or milk progressing. Is there a way to do that in the betas?

[Darth Omix]

 

Okay so I have next to no idea how to work Bodyslide and OutfitStudio and all that, but I'm slowly getting into Unified UNP, so could anyone give me some pointers of what to do to get the recommended belly weights to try out the beta?

 

Edit for clarification: I'm basically trying to figure out how to tack the belly onto a 7B Bombshell preset but I'm flailing around in the dark and can't find a guide that makes any sense.

 

If you use UUNP and build the 7B Bombshell preset the belly will grow with pregnancy/cum inflation. There's no need to do anything extra.

 

 

I'm going to be completely honest, I know I have Bodyslide downloaded/installed/etc because I've fiddled with it and I have a UUNP Morphs tab in Racemenu, so does that basically mean I have it working...At least to some extent?

[chajapa]

OK tested with the updated version. 

Male PC, female follower (Eryniel Elf. She uses vanilla follower mechanics, has her own meshes, but I replace them with UUNP Special in the correct shape for her)

 

It was INCREDIBLY hard to get her pregnant. With the pregnancy chance on 100%, cycle set down to 7 days, and fertility multiplier on x2, I fucked her REPEATEDLY for 7 days. No pregnancy. We were both pretty tired.

 

So I tried fucking Sigrid in Riverwood a bunch of times just because she's such a bitch and..... no pregnancy.

 

I upped the fertility multiplier to x10 and Sigrid got a new gem 5 out of 7 tries.

Went to Eryniel again and results were the same. 5 out of 7 tries.

 

So pregnancy is not for sure even with stuff maxed in your favor. I really don't see this as a problem. Just relating my observation of what's happening for me in game.

 

INFLATION

Not working.

I could sometimes see the belly kind of fluttering slightly like it WANTS to inflate, but it never does. The leak effect is there. No cum inflation testing on Eryniel and on Sigrid.

BOTH of the test subjects are pregnant now and I waited..... and their bellies expand for pregnancy. So it's not a problem with skeleton or mesh. 

Is it possible that cum inflation is somehow fighting with pregnancy belly expansion?

 

DEBUG MESSAGES

 

If I play my female PC, I see the debug messages about her belly and boobs. So the debug messages are working for female PC.

If I play my male PC and use Eryniel and Sigrid as test subjects... no messages. Their boobs and bellies are expanding over time as expected, but no messages for NPCs are showing up in notification area.

 

I would attach a papyrus log, but I looked at it and there is absolutely nothing when searching for "sgo" except for some errors related to JUGs still looking for sgo_questcontroller and/or sgo_questmenu (because I haven't changed JUGs for SGO3 yet)

[EvilReFlex]

@chajapa: Are you using Sexlab v1.60.2?

 

Impregnating and cum inflation works fine for me in the new SGO beta. 

[chajapa]

@chajapa: Are you using Sexlab v1.60.2?

 

Impregnating and cum inflation works fine for me in the new SGO beta. 

 

yes, SL 1.60.2

 

OH.... and no other mods that scale belly. 

 

I'm TESTING with a configuration that has Milk Mod Economy in it, but that doesn't scale belly at any point and actually neither of the girls are milk maids yet. So it's just SGO3.

 

XPMSE 3.20

Racemenu 3.3.0

SKSE 1.7.3

 

cum inflation just not happening.... at least the actual inflation part isn't happening. Everything else as far as node scaling seems to be working. 

 

 

[Darth Omix]

 

 

Okay so I have next to no idea how to work Bodyslide and OutfitStudio and all that, but I'm slowly getting into Unified UNP, so could anyone give me some pointers of what to do to get the recommended belly weights to try out the beta?

 

Edit for clarification: I'm basically trying to figure out how to tack the belly onto a 7B Bombshell preset but I'm flailing around in the dark and can't find a guide that makes any sense.

 

If you use UUNP and build the 7B Bombshell preset the belly will grow with pregnancy/cum inflation. There's no need to do anything extra.

 

 

I'm going to be completely honest, I know I have Bodyslide downloaded/installed/etc because I've fiddled with it and I have a UUNP Morphs tab in Racemenu, so does that basically mean I have it working...At least to some extent?

 

 

I have a theory of how to alleviate my own problem and will report after testing. My general belief is that because my vanilla armor replacers have their own femalebody_0.nif and female_body_1.nif they're messing things up. Gonna swap them for UUNP Bodyslide replacers that are roughly the same and see if that rectifies it.

[darkconsole]

One fast question, is there a relationship between SkyUI and UIExtensions? By having a fast look over both nexus entries they seem to ignore each other, but I wouldn't want to crash my game for the wrong reasons (specially now that the pregnant nodes work. Dunno how it fixed itself...)

 

the only relationship is i think expired was somehow involved with skyui at some point. uiextensions... extends.

[Darth Omix]

 

One fast question, is there a relationship between SkyUI and UIExtensions? By having a fast look over both nexus entries they seem to ignore each other, but I wouldn't want to crash my game for the wrong reasons (specially now that the pregnant nodes work. Dunno how it fixed itself...)

 

the only relationship is i think expired was somehow involved with skyui at some point. uiextensions... extends.

 

 

Yeah it seems a common misconception, I was once guilty of it myself, that SkyUI, UIExtensions, and Extended UI would all conflict out the ass, but they all can be run together since they do different things really.

[chajapa]

I think I figured out what I'm seeing with the cum inflation...

 

If I set it to HOLD.... it will inflate and hold. 

 

If I disable that HOLD... the belly node pops in and out and eventually goes back to normal. I think I may be seeing all of the node updates as the cum leaks out, like remove this transform and add this transform (if that's even how it's being done). 

 

The problem with leaving it on hold is that now all NPCs will hold.... forever... because they can't use the squirt shout

 

 

[darkconsole]

 

 

 

Yeah it seems a common misconception, I was once guilty of it myself, that SkyUI, UIExtensions, and Extended UI would all conflict out the ass, but they all can be run together since they do different things really.

 

 

"Extended UI" probably will conflict maybe a little I dont know. but it has not been updated for SkyUI 5 yet which probably matters since it lists SkyUI 4 as a dependency.

 

 

I think I figured out what I'm seeing with the cum inflation...

 

If I set it to HOLD.... it will inflate and hold. 

 

If I disable that HOLD... the belly node pops in and out and eventually goes back to normal. I think I may be seeing all of the node updates as the cum leaks out, like remove this transform and add this transform (if that's even how it's being done). 

 

The problem with leaving it on hold is that now all NPCs will hold.... forever... because they can't use the squirt shout

 

i been thinking about your problems and the only thing i can come up with... would you consider your computer to be "good" ? - the only thng i can really think of is maybe it just cant handle the "smooth animation" i do on the cum inflation because this is what you should be seeing. e.g. "update the node really fucking fast over and over to provide the illusion of animation"

 

 

if your racemenu and or standalone nioverride are up to date, that is. else i may have to add an option to disable the smooth transition to let it pop to where it needs to go.