{UPDATE-2017 May 08} Tera Elin Race 2

[PsychoMachina]

The latest update contains sliders for adjusting the hairs.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/33294-new-hdt-ears-tails-elin-dance-xpmse-244-and-new-features-tera-elin-race-2/?p=835024

 

You will need to follow the instructions I posted  Instructions for preparing accessories for the new sliders.   If the hairs appear for the Elins then it's just a matter of editing the hair and hairline meshes to use the CME HAIR node so that they are affected by the hair adjustment sliders.

 

FYI, I can't provide the edited meshes for the SG and KS hairs because they are forbidden to uploading here. 

[MaDuck]

Is it normal, when creating Eli character that she appears in normal sized body and after creating her, she shrinks down to 'normal' size?

 

Also, it seems that SoS and female bodies get bit.. changed when playing as Eli. They get stretched quite alot.

 

I'm using MO, so there shouldn't be anything majorly wrong, unless it's a load order problem?

[PsychoMachina]

Changing sizes during character creation and when exiting from it does happen, but it's uncommon.  The Elins also have a tendancy to "grow" when using the forge, alchemy and enchantment tables.  That is normal because of the race scaling markers set at those places.  The problem is sometimes they can get stuck at human size.  Reloading the last save or even going as far as restarting the game will reset them to normal Elin height.

 

I never tried SOS with the Elins so I can only suggest a possible solution:

1. Update the Elin skeleton with the latest XPMSE (the Elin skeletons are found in MESHES > ACTORS > TERA ELIN).  You will lose the custom nodes and sliders that adjusts the hairs and head accessories.  Also, you will have problems with the ears and tails; no physics, the ears and tails 'floating' on their heads, and tails glitching).

As for load order, I doubt that is the problem, but you can try different 'mod order' (from the left window of MO) such as, in order of least priority > high priority, Sos > Elin race > XPMSE.

 

[MaDuck]

Changing sizes during character creation and when exiting from it does happen, but it's uncommon.  The Elins also have a tendancy to "grow" when using the forge, alchemy and enchantment tables.  That is normal because of the race scaling markers set at those places.  The problem is sometimes they can get stuck at human size.  Reloading the last save or even going as far as restarting the game will reset them to normal Elin height.

 

I never tried SOS with the Elins so I can only suggest a possible solution:

1. Update the Elin skeleton with the latest XPMSE (the Elin skeletons are found in MESHES > ACTORS > TERA ELIN).  You will lose the custom nodes and sliders that adjusts the hairs and head accessories.  Also, you will have problems with the ears; no physics and the ears 'floating' on their heads).

As for load order, I doubt that is the problem, but you can try different 'mod order' (from the left window of MO) such as, in order of least priority > high priority, Sos > Elin race > XPMSE.

 

 

Ah. I meant, that SoS on NPC's was stretched upwards, above their head.

 

And yeah. I'm not sure, if it was after installing Elin (I recall, I deactivated Elin + HDT hair for Elin mods and NPC still were stretched) when this happened, or when I upgraded the XPMSE.

 

edit. Just to be on the safe side (trying to google it atm. too).

 

Right way / safest way to upgrade the XPMSE on Elin race?

 

editedit.

 

Load order

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

Falskaar.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

moonpath.esm

daymoyl.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

EFFCore.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

TERAArmors.esm

TeraElinRace.esm

TeraElin2_AIOHairs_HDT.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Pureweather.esp

FISS.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp

HDTTailsEquipable.esp

AlduinWing.esp

RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

SGEyebrows.esp

TDNEquipableHorns.esp

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp

TMsuicidegirl0.92.esp

BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp

Animated Dragon Wings.esp

Hair Physics Project.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

blessarmors.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

RelightingSkyrim.esp

RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp

SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp

SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp

SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

JKs Skyrim.esp

RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp

SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

TwoRings.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp

Thane's Breezehome - Hearthfire Edition.esp

Artifact Disenchanting.esp

Holidays.esp

CinematicFireFX.esp

Open Cities Skyrim - Holidays.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Cloaks.esp

Draconic Bloodline.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

fallentreebridges.esp

RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp

SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp

Tera Armor Level List.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

Falskaar - Hearthfire Patch.esp

EFFDialogue.esp

UIExtensions.esp

Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp

FormsEdit.esp

12FemaleBrows.esp

falskaar_loadscreen_fix.esp

MeridaHair.esp

HDT Female Hairstyles.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

CL BladeofSacrifice.esp

CL Nettlebane.esp

Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp

rmp_SolaireFollower.esp

SCO Spring Edition.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp

SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp

Morning Fogs.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

iNeed.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

FalskaarFastTravel.esp

Dark Souls Weapons.esp

iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

EEO patch.esp

Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp

FNISspells.esp

GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp

Real Clouds.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

Supreme Fog.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

TrueStorms.esp

Supreme Storms.esp

TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-Vanilla.esp

Vivid Landscapes.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SSAssist.esp

SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp

SkyUI.esp

SkyTweak.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

Halo's Poser.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

HDT Piercingsets.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp

Enhanced 3rd Person Camera.esp

TERA Weapons.esp

RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp

SOSRaceMenu.esp

TeraElinRaceVoice.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ReProccer.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

 

[PsychoMachina]

Non-Elin NPCs?  Males?  Females?  Sounds like a skeleton issue, but you'll receive better help at the SOS thread.  Like I mentioned before, I know very little about SOS sinced the last I tried it, XPMS Extended was yet to be created.

 

 

[skyrimkillmod]

mod looks great, i did a fresh install and only did the requirements for this mod SKSE+SkyUI+Enhanced Character Edit.  Race does not appear for me QQ D:

[PsychoMachina]

Elin race not appearing when choosing a race in character creation?  They were not loaded into the game.  Check that the master file and any related plugins are activated.

Other than that, I do not know of any other causes that prevents a custom race from appearing in-game.

 

 

[skyrimkillmod]

I checked again and it worked!  TY!

[PsychoMachina]

Good to know.

 

[Vittek]

Has science gone too far?

[Saric92]

I know you said it's required, but will this race work without ECE? I currently use racemenu and have a number of dependent overlays etc that I'd rather not lose out on...so would there be any major/game breaking issues?

[PsychoMachina]

I updated the first post to inform everyone that RaceMenu is compatible with Elin Race 2.  The major difference is some missing face and head customization sliders that is featured when using ECE.

 

ECE => Base race morphs + Special face/head morphs.

RM => Base race morphs only.

 

If you want to see what they look like using either ECE or RM; the main picture of my Elin in the first post was created using ECE, my Elin avatar was created using RM.

 

I could use some assistance with creating the scripts to add the extra sliders to RM.

 

 

 

[lillim]

I am also getting no animations from character models after installing this and running FNIS. I'm just happy I made a back up with MO before trying as even removing the mods did not restore the animations.

 

This persisted through both existing and new saves. Restoring to my backup everything works again but as soon as I install this mod I lose all animations.  

 

Any help is appreciated outside of the usual troubleshooting as I've already tried the common sense bits.  The Elin' look amazing, would love to have them in my game... Not so much without animations lol.

[JaFinmongrab]

I am also getting no animations from character models after installing this and running FNIS. I'm just happy I made a back up with MO before trying as even removing the mods did not restore the animations.

 

This persisted through both existing and new saves. Restoring to my backup everything works again but as soon as I install this mod I lose all animations.  

 

Any help is appreciated outside of the usual troubleshooting as I've already tried the common sense bits.  The Elin' look amazing, would love to have them in my game... Not so much without animations lol.

 

Open up your Skyrim Launcher through Steam and click on [Data Files]

 

Make sure the box for [PC Exclusive Animation Path.esp] is unchecked.

 

Run Skyrim normally.

 

This maybe your problem.

[PsychoMachina]

After installing Elin Idle animation or Elin Dance Idle animation and running FNIS Generator for Users, the Elins do not exhibit the idle animation or stuck in t-pose or is everyone stuck in a t-pose?

 

In the mod list (left window), give the Elin Idle higher priority over any other mods that adds animations. 

Go to MO's Overwrite folder and move all FNIS generated behavior/animation files to a backup location.

Run FNIS and make sure you check the "GENDER Specifics Animation" patch from the list at the bottom half of the Generator window. 

Check MO's Overwrite folder for the newly created files.

 

@JaFinmongrab

So there is a conflict with PC Exclusive Animation Path?

 

I'll have to look into this.

Okay, why is it when I try to post a new comment, it appends to my last comment?????

[Mephykuns]

Hey hey psycho, are you gonna make a similar loli race like this in fallout 4? or just port it? or is that asking to much? I spoiled the shit outta myself with cute little elin, it would be really awesome to see it in Fallout 4.. Also uhh is it possible to turn this into a npc follower with all the customizations on it?

[PsychoMachina]

For the past 3 weeks, I have been entertaining the thought of introducing the Elins and whatever other Tera race to Fallout 4, but with a steampunk/cyberpunk theme.

 

But I think there might be a setback regarding small and loli races. 

 

 

Starting @5:11.  If this is in the final release then loli races just won't work, except if they are an unplayable race.

 

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You should be able to create Elin 2 npcs, the method would not be all too different than with Elin 1. 

[Mephykuns]

So no sliders equals no lolis? D: 

 

Hmm I would love to be able to make a elin 2 follower with the customization i used on mine but theres a slight pause when loading characters morphs or whatever and im sure it wont port over, i kinda witnessed it when i cloned elin 2 with the hdt hair spazzing out.

[JaFinmongrab]

After installing Elin Idle animation or Elin Dance Idle animation and running FNIS Generator for Users, the Elins do not exhibit the idle animation or stuck in t-pose or is everyone stuck in a t-pose?

 

In the mod list (left window), give the Elin Idle higher priority over any other mods that adds animations. 

Go to MO's Overwrite folder and move all FNIS generated behavior/animation files to a backup location.

Run FNIS and make sure you check the "GENDER Specifics Animation" patch from the list at the bottom half of the Generator window. 

Check MO's Overwrite folder for the newly created files.

 

@JaFinmongrab

So there is a conflict with PC Exclusive Animation Path?

 

I'll have to look into this.

Okay, why is it when I try to post a new comment, it appends to my last comment?????

 

I don't know for sure if the idle animation specifically is in conflict but drawing from experience in the past with other animation mods, sometimes when you install an animation mod in general, even when you update FNIS, Skyrim will default enable [PC Exclusive Animation Path]. I'm not sure why but it drove me nuts and led to headaches and a lot of unnecessary clean installs before discovering this.

 

This particular case could be sometime different entirely but I always check and make sure this item is disabled whenever installing any kind of new animation mod.

 

As for why LL keeps appending new posts to your last comment, I can't say but I know often when I click on a recent post in my notifications, it sends me to the beginning of the thread rather than to that post.

 

[PsychoMachina]

So no sliders equals no lolis? D: 

 

Hmm I would love to be able to make a elin 2 follower with the customization i used on mine but theres a slight pause when loading characters morphs or whatever and im sure it wont port over, i kinda witnessed it when i cloned elin 2 with the hdt hair spazzing out.

 

Nothing to do with lack of sliders.  My understanding is that the starting character is married with children and the man and woman, you choose to play, in the vid are husband and wife.  See now the shitstorm if either character is or appears underage.

 

The pause when fiddling with the sliders is caused by the game loading the data instead of caching everything at the start, that is, if you are using RM or Precache Killer.

The HDT hair will spaz when using showracemenu, but return to normal when exiting to the game.  If you mean the hairs spaz when an npc is using it, there may or may not be a fix for that.  I have not been keeping up with an new changes with HDT.

 

 

 

After installing Elin Idle animation or Elin Dance Idle animation and running FNIS Generator for Users, the Elins do not exhibit the idle animation or stuck in t-pose or is everyone stuck in a t-pose?

 

In the mod list (left window), give the Elin Idle higher priority over any other mods that adds animations. 

Go to MO's Overwrite folder and move all FNIS generated behavior/animation files to a backup location.

Run FNIS and make sure you check the "GENDER Specifics Animation" patch from the list at the bottom half of the Generator window. 

Check MO's Overwrite folder for the newly created files.

 

@JaFinmongrab

So there is a conflict with PC Exclusive Animation Path?

 

I'll have to look into this.

Okay, why is it when I try to post a new comment, it appends to my last comment?????

 

 

I don't know for sure if the idle animation specifically is in conflict but drawing from experience in the past with other animation mods, sometimes when you install an animation mod in general, even when you update FNIS, Skyrim will default enable [PC Exclusive Animation Path]. I'm not sure why but it drove me nuts and led to headaches and a lot of unnecessary clean installs before discovering this.

 

This particular case could be sometime different entirely but I always check and make sure this item is disabled whenever installing any kind of new animation mod.

 

As for why LL keeps appending new posts to your last comment, I can't say but I know often when I click on a recent post in my notifications, it sends me to the beginning of the thread rather than to that post.

 

 

 

I take it PCEA is something you use, but considering your problem, you need to deactive it whenever running FNIS.  Not sure if this will help, but go to C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Skyrim and open PLUGINS.txt with Notepad.  If you see PCEA on the listing, delete it and save the file.  The only reason to leave it on the list is if you need to keep it at a certain load order so that CK or TES5edit doesn't show an error .

I add the RaceCompatibility master followed by the ElinRace master to the plugin list or else CK and TES5edit will try to load the Elin before RaceCompatibility.

[Mephykuns]

Nothing to do with lack of sliders.  My understanding is that the starting character is married with children and the man and woman, you choose to play, in the vid are husband and wife.  See now the shitstorm if either character is or appears underage.

 

Im pretty sure most of the tumblr crowd already hates the heterosexual marriage beginning intro, and there will probably be mods that will change them into a gay/lesbian couple and to avoid the whole underage thing... alternate start mod... or say fuck it and ignore the hate from creating loli/shota couple races

[lillim]

 

 

Open up your Skyrim Launcher through Steam and click on [Data Files]

 

Make sure the box for [PC Exclusive Animation Path.esp] is unchecked.

 

Run Skyrim normally.

 

This maybe your problem.

 

 

I don't use PCEA a good thought for those that do and run into this though.

 

After installing Elin Idle animation or Elin Dance Idle animation and running FNIS Generator for Users, the Elins do not exhibit the idle animation or stuck in t-pose or is everyone stuck in a t-pose?

 

In the mod list (left window), give the Elin Idle higher priority over any other mods that adds animations. 

Go to MO's Overwrite folder and move all FNIS generated behavior/animation files to a backup location.

Run FNIS and make sure you check the "GENDER Specifics Animation" patch from the list at the bottom half of the Generator window. 

Check MO's Overwrite folder for the newly created files.

 

 

Everyone is stuck in a T-pose. I've tried putting the animations at the bottom of my load order as well as your other suggestions with no result.  I'll be dissecting my mods over the next few days and try to find the cause/conflict and post back with results. 

 

If you've any other ideas, thanks in advance otherwise I'll just keep digging around until I find whats up.

[PsychoMachina]

In case your problem is somehow related to BSA files, here is the idle animation using loose files.

 

OPTION-ANIMATION_TeraElin2_Idle-v1.0_LooseFiles.7z

 

Remove the original Elin animation files, run FNIS generator, install the loose files version of the idle animation, and run FNIS again.

 

 

[SSmotzer]

 

Nothing to do with lack of sliders.  My understanding is that the starting character is married with children and the man and woman, you choose to play, in the vid are husband and wife.  See now the shitstorm if either character is or appears underage.

 

 

Aren't Elin some kind of ageless, genderless furry creatures made up of a Goddess's essence?

What's to say a masculine Elin and a feminine Elin can't come together and raise a newly "born" Elin?

 

I mean, in the latest episodes of Steven Universe, on Cartoon Network, we clearly see Ruby and Sapphire, two ageless child like beings of a genderless by feminine alien race, totally making out.

 

https://youtu.be/cDXsXNJZRIU?t=2m30s

 

And yes, the red and blue children fusion made out, like fusion dancing from Dragon Ball, only a lot more interesting.

 

Can't recommend Steven Universe enough btw.

[PsychoMachina]

http://tera.wikia.com/wiki/Elin

 

They are ageless, child-like, female humanoids with no 'masculine' counterparts.  I use to think the Popori were the male counterparts, but it turns out the Elins and Popori are two separate races.

The Elin were created by the goddess Elinu, but they do not have a life cycle (i.e. conception - birth - growth - reproduction - death).