Amorous Adventures [v3.4] (2018/06/02)

[Pillock69]

On 7/22/2018 at 5:04 AM, KravisGile said:

I'm unsure if this is mentioned already.  I skimmed through posts for the past few weeks and didn't see it.

 

The new Elisif quest (Body Double) has a bug once you're completed.  It appears that the alias of the lover still hits Jarl Elisif the Fair when you're asking "New Elisif" the "How are you doing, Elisif?" dialogue.  If they're near each other and you ask New Elisif that you need her touch, SexLab will initiate with the Jarl Elisif instead.  You could also be at the Imperial training area with New Elisif and if you ask her to follow you to somewhere private, you'll eventually see the Jarl Elisif appear in the distance running to you while New Elisif just stands there.

 

I've loaded the .esp up in CreationKit and tried to look for where you're designating Elisif's "myLover" alias after BodyDouble completes, but I cannot find it.  Otherwise, I'd fix it myself.

 

Overall I thoroughly enjoyed the new quest.  The whole "pit fighter" stuff was a bit of a stretch, but it doesn't come close to the Wabbajack silliness that Idgrod the Younger's quest reveals. 

 

On 7/22/2018 at 5:54 AM, SleepyJim said:

I've had this happen as well. I married the follower Elisif and set her up in Breezehome. One time she was in an inconvenient part of the house - too dark and cluttered - so I told her to come with me somewhere private so we could have more room. After exiting dialogue the other Elisif walked in the front door and she was following me instead.

On 7/22/2018 at 9:50 AM, FoxFingers said:

 

 

Appreciate the feedback on the Elisif Quest (as selected by the contest winner).  I'm glad you overall found it an enjoyable addition to this Mod.  Thank you!

 

The quest in the Creation Kit you would likely want to make a fix in is "AmorousAdventuresLoverDialogueElisif".

 

If you want to create a Bug-Fix version of this Mod and upload it to maintain - be the owner of - that's great.  You have my full permission, blessing, etc. 

 

Thanks! 

Has anyone looked at a fix for this? I had a look in the CK found the above quest, and I have absolutely no idea what I should be looking for, or what needs to be changed. I hope it gets fixed as it otherwise mars a great mod.

 

[Thenryb]

19 hours ago, Pillock69 said:

 

Has anyone looked at a fix for this? I had a look in the CK found the above quest, and I have absolutely no idea what I should be looking for, or what needs to be changed. I hope it gets fixed as it otherwise mars a great mod.

 

I tried to bumble through the CK but simply lack the knowledge to know what to do to fix it. For now if my pc has Elisif as a follower and wants to couple with her NEVER ask her to follow you somewhere first. That is where the problem occurs. The Follower Elisif does not follow in response to that dialogue but the Bard Pretender will show up instead. It may take awhile. In my game, the bard pretender came all the way to my home in Solstheim. Fortunately, I made a save just prior to that. Just choose "I need your touch" and never "follow me somewhere private for lovemaking".

[Pillock69]

5 hours ago, Thenryb said:

I tried to bumble through the CK but simply lack the knowledge to know what to do to fix it. For now if my pc has Elisif as a follower and wants to couple with her NEVER ask her to follow you somewhere first. That is where the problem occurs. The Follower Elisif does not follow in response to that dialogue but the Bard Pretender will show up instead. It may take awhile. In my game, the bard pretender came all the way to my home in Solstheim. Fortunately, I made a save just prior to that. Just choose "I need your touch" and never "follow me somewhere private for lovemaking".

Thanks, a pity the author retired before fixing this bug.

[Thenryb]

5 hours ago, Pillock69 said:

Thanks, a pity the author retired before fixing this bug.

I imagine he could fix it quite easily but if he did, the requests for this and that would probably resume and he would have to re-retire. I know there are others who could fix it, but maybe fear that they would be expected to support the mod if they uploaded the fix. Skyrim players are insatiable.

[Pillock69]

8 hours ago, Thenryb said:

I imagine he could fix it quite easily but if he did, the requests for this and that would probably resume and he would have to re-retire. I know there are others who could fix it, but maybe fear that they would be expected to support the mod if they uploaded the fix. Skyrim players are insatiable.

Sure I guess, but it was the last quest, why wasn't it fixed in testing before being published? It's not like it's conflicting with another mod, I can understand he'd never retire if he kept fixing these types of issues like some other mods have. He's even pointed to where you should look to fix it, more or less saying it's a fault with the mod. Otherwise he would've said it works fine,it must be a mod conflict.

Don't get me wrong I greatly appreciate all the work and effort that has been put into creating and supporting this mod over many years. I've messed with the CK myself, I know it can be a bitch to get things right. It's just a shame this quest wasn't finished.

[Gulfwulf]

Okay, I *think* I've fixed this issue. I can't be 100% certain because I haven't done Elsif's quest yet. Anyway, included in the archive is a new AA esp and a new script along with its source. Just overwrite when asked and the body double should be used instead of the "real" jarl. Let me know if anybody runs into any issues. Thanks.

 

Elsif update.7z

[Pillock69]

1 hour ago, Gulfwulf said:

Okay, I *think* I've fixed this issue. I can't be 100% certain because I haven't done Elsif's quest yet. Anyway, included in the archive is a new AA esp and a new script along with its source. Just overwrite when asked and the body double should be used instead of the "real" jarl. Let me know if anybody runs into any issues. Thanks.

 

Elsif update.7z

Thank you very much. It appears to work fine a bit of a double up of the "How are you" question once she's followed you somewhere private it doesn't lead into I need your touch etc. but not a big deal. I did try both Elisif's and all ok. I know this error was a minor issue that could've been easily sidestepped, but annoying nonetheless. Now about the Serana problem? Just kidding, again thanks a lot.

[Thenryb]

1 hour ago, Gulfwulf said:

Okay, I *think* I've fixed this issue. I can't be 100% certain because I haven't done Elsif's quest yet. Anyway, included in the archive is a new AA esp and a new script along with its source. Just overwrite when asked and the body double should be used instead of the "real" jarl. Let me know if anybody runs into any issues. Thanks.

 

Elsif update.7z

It is working fine for me. Thanks for doing this. Yes, after you have led her to the spot you want and tell her it is a good spot for lovemaking, you basically start over with the "how are you dialogue", but that is the way it is for all AA lovers (at least in my game ever since I installed the mod).

[Gulfwulf]

16 minutes ago, Thenryb said:

It is working fine for me. Thanks for doing this. Yes, after you have led her to the spot you want and tell her it is a good spot for lovemaking, you basically start over with the "how are you dialogue", but that is the way it is for all AA lovers (at least in my game ever since I installed the mod).

 

59 minutes ago, Pillock69 said:

Thank you very much. It appears to work fine a bit of a double up of the "How are you" question once she's followed you somewhere private it doesn't lead into I need your touch etc. but not a big deal. I did try both Elisif's and all ok. I know this error was a minor issue that could've been easily sidestepped, but annoying nonetheless. Now about the Serana problem? Just kidding, again thanks a lot.

Ah..hum. I think I may know what the problem is, but it'll require some more digging. Basically what I did was copy the "follow me" dialog branch and assigned it to the body double instead of the actual jarl. If the above happens with every lover, then it may be a bigger issue than what this one was.

 

By the way, what's the Serana problem? I don't mind fixing bugs, but I need a pretty detailed report of what the problem is: what the actual issue is, what dialog is associated with it, what action(s) cause the issue, what quest(s) is/are running, etc. I'm going to be starting Serana's quest after I finish with The Companions and get Aela as a follower, so I can do some testing on my own if need-be. I did the first quest way back when, but haven't done the second one yet (the one with Nazeem and his wife).

[Pillock69]

3 hours ago, Gulfwulf said:

 

Ah..hum. I think I may know what the problem is, but it'll require some more digging. Basically what I did was copy the "follow me" dialog branch and assigned it to the body double instead of the actual jarl. If the above happens with every lover, then it may be a bigger issue than what this one was.

 

By the way, what's the Serana problem? I don't mind fixing bugs, but I need a pretty detailed report of what the problem is: what the actual issue is, what dialog is associated with it, what action(s) cause the issue, what quest(s) is/are running, etc. I'm going to be starting Serana's quest after I finish with The Companions and get Aela as a follower, so I can do some testing on my own if need-be. I did the first quest way back when, but haven't done the second one yet (the one with Nazeem and his wife).

There is no Serana problem, I was just kidding, Thenryb suggested that people may not post a fix in fear of being bombarded with other issues.

[Gulfwulf]

Good.  I'll see if I can fix the dialog issue later, but don't expect it to come any time soon.

[Reesewow]

8 hours ago, Gulfwulf said:

Ah..hum. I think I may know what the problem is, but it'll require some more digging. Basically what I did was copy the "follow me" dialog branch and assigned it to the body double instead of the actual jarl. If the above happens with every lover, then it may be a bigger issue than what this one was.

I don't think this is an issue per say - that is the way the lovers dialogue has always worked AFAIK.  You can ask a lover to follow you somewhere, and once you ask them to stop following you can go back into her lovers dialogue manually, but I don't recall it ever linking up directly.  The other way to have them stop following was to talk to a second lover and request a threesome.

[FoxFingers]

11 hours ago, Gulfwulf said:

Okay, I *think* I've fixed this issue. I can't be 100% certain because I haven't done Elsif's quest yet. Anyway, included in the archive is a new AA esp and a new script along with its source. Just overwrite when asked and the body double should be used instead of the "real" jarl. Let me know if anybody runs into any issues. Thanks.

 

Elsif update.7z

 

9 hours ago, Thenryb said:

It is working fine for me. Thanks for doing this. Yes, after you have led her to the spot you want and tell her it is a good spot for lovemaking, you basically start over with the "how are you dialogue", but that is the way it is for all AA lovers (at least in my game ever since I installed the mod).

 

Nice work Gulfwulf!

 

Naturally, if you would like to begin a bug fix version of this mod to maintain, you are more than welcome to.

 

Thanks!

[FoxFingers]

14 hours ago, Pillock69 said:

Sure I guess, but it was the last quest, why wasn't it fixed in testing before being published? It's not like it's conflicting with another mod, I can understand he'd never retire if he kept fixing these types of issues like some other mods have. He's even pointed to where you should look to fix it, more or less saying it's a fault with the mod. Otherwise he would've said it works fine,it must be a mod conflict.

 

Don't get me wrong I greatly appreciate all the work and effort that has been put into creating and supporting this mod over many years. I've messed with the CK myself, I know it can be a bitch to get things right. It's just a shame this quest wasn't finished.

 

Naturally, I was waiting to see if a worthy hero would appear to provide a fix.  And, lo, one did.

[Gulfwulf]

4 hours ago, FoxFingers said:

 

 

Nice work Gulfwulf!

 

Naturally, if you would like to begin a bug fix version of this mod to maintain, you are more than welcome to.

 

Thanks!

Pfft. This was a 2 minute fix...after I figured out how you had everything setup. I can't complain because I'm sure my modding habits would be hard for others to understand.

 

As I said before, I don't mind fixing bugs, but I need detailed reports on what the bug is that don't include someone just saying "this quest is broken!" or something similar.

[Pillock69]

9 hours ago, Reesewow said:

I don't think this is an issue per say - that is the way the lovers dialogue has always worked AFAIK.  You can ask a lover to follow you somewhere, and once you ask them to stop following you can go back into her lovers dialogue manually, but I don't recall it ever linking up directly.  The other way to have them stop following was to talk to a second lover and request a threesome.

I do remember in the past having to ask "How are you going" a 2nd time after following, but recently it changed to: (Don't quote me on the exact wording)

Player - "How are you"

Player - "Follow me somewhere private"

Player - "This look like a good spot"

Lover - "So many things we could do here"

Player - "I need your touch" or "I just want to watch" or a threesome if talking to a 3rd.

Lover - "It gives me shivers just thinking about it" 

This is true for Lydia, Annekke, Aranea Ienith. (3 of 4 I tested it on)

But Serana did work the original way. But I do realise that Serana is more of a unique NPC compared to the others.

This is not a complaint just an observation. Maybe it is a load order issue, but in both panels (MO) this mod is the last one to load.

[53army]

Havent played skyrim for a while and there's an update for my fav mods, too bad rikke story only available when you join Imperial, i hope somebody will make a version where you can save her and hold her as a prisoner instead if you join Stormcloak. Ah , almost forget, thanks for your hard work FoxFingers

[kelly143]

hey.... so... im very far in the game and completed almost all quest + mod quests... do i really need to start a new game for this? or?....

[Reesewow]

2 minutes ago, kelly143 said:

hey.... so... im very far in the game and completed almost all quest + mod quests... do i really need to start a new game for this? or?....

For a first time installing AA?  You don't *need* to start a new game - only a few of the quests can't be completed if you start them after the vanilla quests are done.  Namely all of the Riften quests and Serana's quests I believe will not start if you've done that content I believe, there are probably a few others.

 

However, if you want to actually *enjoy* this mod fully - you should do it on a new game.  Almost all of the quests tie in directly with the vanilla quest content, so if you install it on a completionist game you will spend a lot of time just listening to dialogue and having steps auto-complete and fast travelling to the next NPC to talk to.  You won't really have much "gameplay", and the girls will probably sounds mildly insane as they jump from major plot points in a few clicks.

[kelly143]

12 hours ago, Reesewow said:

For a first time installing AA?  You don't *need* to start a new game - only a few of the quests can't be completed if you start them after the vanilla quests are done.  Namely all of the Riften quests and Serana's quests I believe will not start if you've done that content I believe, there are probably a few others.

 

However, if you want to actually *enjoy* this mod fully - you should do it on a new game.  Almost all of the quests tie in directly with the vanilla quest content, so if you install it on a completionist game you will spend a lot of time just listening to dialogue and having steps auto-complete and fast travelling to the next NPC to talk to.  You won't really have much "gameplay", and the girls will probably sounds mildly insane as they jump from major plot points in a few clicks.

dang..... i thought they just add new quests  ."having steps auto-complete"  you mean that they will automatically become my lover ? do they have a "kiss only function"? or is it basically just like sexlab romance but with a storyline and quests?

[Reesewow]

24 minutes ago, kelly143 said:

dang..... i thought they just add new quests  ."having steps auto-complete"  you mean that they will automatically become my lover ?

I mean that for lovers that have vanilla quests involving them, often the AA quest will be built assuming you are meeting them for the first time and haven't done their quest yet.  These lovers have steps in their "lover" quest that ask you to go do vanilla quests - if those quests are already done that step will complete immediately.  For instance Aela's quest starts normally when you first join the Companions but you can still do it if you already completed the Companions questline.  She will talk to you like you aren't the Harbinger in her lovers quest dialogue and reference vanilla quest events as if they just happened as you talk to her.

 

Either way, try it out, it is still one of the best mods out there.

[kelly143]

54 minutes ago, Reesewow said:

I mean that for lovers that have vanilla quests involving them, often the AA quest will be built assuming you are meeting them for the first time and haven't done their quest yet.  These lovers have steps in their "lover" quest that ask you to go do vanilla quests - if those quests are already done that step will complete immediately.  For instance Aela's quest starts normally when you first join the Companions but you can still do it if you already completed the Companions questline.  She will talk to you like you aren't the Harbinger in her lovers quest dialogue and reference vanilla quest events as if they just happened as you talk to her.

 

Either way, try it out, it is still one of the best mods out there.

well, i think its fine as long as i can fully finish her AA quests and all. how about serana? i read its kind of complicated that you should start dawnguard and all. can i still complete it even i i finished dawnguard? or is it completely closed off?

[Gulfwulf]

1 hour ago, kelly143 said:

well, i think its fine as long as i can fully finish her AA quests and all. how about serana? i read its kind of complicated that you should start dawnguard and all. can i still complete it even i i finished dawnguard? or is it completely closed off?

I believe it's completely closed off because the quests start when you release her from her coffin.

[jpee1965]

Relax In Peace Fox!  You rocked!!

[scorpionlord69]

This really is an awesome mod.

 

That said, I was hoping someone could give me some insight. All the quests have worked so far, with the exception of one. Serana's Mark of Dibella quest, which for some reason simply won't trigger.

 

I've checked and made sure that both Nazeem and Ahlam are alive and well. Dawnguard questline is done. The previous Amorous quest, The Arts of Dibella, was completed successfully. GetStage on SexLabAmorousAdventuresDLC1_Arts is at 200. However on SexLabAmorousAdventuresDLC1_Mark it is at 0. Have tried setting the stage on the Mark of Dibella, doesn't work. I've completed the Annekke and Sylgja amorous quests with Senna, so they're tagged as lovers already.

 

One thing I do note, is that Serana's dialogue includes the option "Let's talk about the Dibellan arts." ---the same line that starts and continues the Arts of Dibella amorous quest. Upon completing that quest line, the dialogue option remains every time I talk to Serana. Not sure if that's supposed to be there.

 

Any help would be appreciated.