Apropos - Feature Request and Descriptions Submission

[2dr0b]

 

 

 

Thanks for this, found it quite easy to add your lines to my database with how you have it set up.  There's a *lot* of content here, and lots of new synonyms to mix it up.  I'd recommend more people to check out your file, as a lot of work has obviously gone into it and the way it is presented makes it much easier to add to an existing database without trying to copy/paste between two different sets of text files with the same name.

 

 

Thanks for the kind words. Very glad the spreadsheet works for you, certainly makes it a lot easier for me. There are some great resources for writing that I found, but the forum is not allowing me to post links, maybe in the future.

 

To your other point, I only recently found this forum and spent a bit of time browsing through the 43 odd pages, as you indicated. Would be nice to have a more centralized repository, but I really can't comment on feasibility.

 

Very fun group of people, I've enjoyed reading the various posts. Thanks!

[Leito86]

Finally finished some content to share.

 

Created some txt files for Leito Missionary 1. Thematically, its more loving than anything else. There's a set for Male and Female, with 8 lines per point of view per stage, and included the unique animation txt with all the current ones so you can just open and paste. Feedback is appreciated! I tried to keep the Female Actor files gender neutral since it also triggers if two women are performing the animation (At least for me).

 

Not sure which animation description I'll do next. If you have suggestions on what animation to describe next note my style is more loving and softer than the style of others. Please let me know if it doesn't work or I messed up, because I've never uploaded files before.

 

Z

 

 

Good job.  I always appreciate having some vanilla, non-demeaning descriptions.

[Grimbold the unlovely]

 

Finally finished some content to share.

 

Created some txt files for Leito Missionary 1. Thematically, its more loving than anything else. There's a set for Male and Female, with 8 lines per point of view per stage, and included the unique animation txt with all the current ones so you can just open and paste. Feedback is appreciated! I tried to keep the Female Actor files gender neutral since it also triggers if two women are performing the animation (At least for me).

 

Not sure which animation description I'll do next. If you have suggestions on what animation to describe next note my style is more loving and softer than the style of others. Please let me know if it doesn't work or I messed up, because I've never uploaded files before.

 

Z

 

 

Good job.  I always appreciate having some vanilla, non-demeaning descriptions.

 

I'd love to see your work on the other Leito anims, all of which lend themselves to your excellent writing style. The zj ones would work well too.

[ButchDiavolo]

I can't tell you how much I have appreciated this mod and the work that has gone into it. I wanted to share my own wording preference in the attached.

 

Quick explanation: I use this spreadsheet because it is easier for me to work that way.

Each tab corresponds for an animation category, for example FemaleActor_Male_Vaginal or FemaleActor_Male_Vaginal_Rape and contains columns for each stage.

Each column corresponds to a stage in the referenced animation category.

The text is JSON friendly formatted so that you can copy and paste it right into .txt file.

All text is intended for use with the 3rd Person view.

 

The only exception here is the Synonym tab, which of course, corresponds to some, but not all, entries I tweak in that .txt file.

I haven't gotten around to working out different themes, so all content is there.

 

I just think it is easier to edit and work on one spreadsheet then trying to work across multiple .txt files. This also makes it easier if anyone wants to take a look and see if anything is of interest here.

 

Thanks again, hopefully someone will find something they like!

 

What an exceptionally clever idea! Thanks for that

 

[Grimbold the unlovely]

Please forgive the stupid question (and I hope that this is the right thread in which to ask it, since it does concern the writing of messages).

 

I have recently been experiment with what I thought was a valid format for messages and was envisioned as the way of the future. For unique animations, instead of the form "FemaleActor_fdDoggy" I tried "FemaleActor_Male_fdDoggy" and "FemaleActor_Female_fdDoggy". My aim was to separate lesbian from hetero messages for my female player. But when nothing happens when I try to initiate sex. It looks as if Apropos cannot find or read the files.

 

Have I got the names and/or syntax wrong or am I simply trying to implement a feature that does not yet exist in the mod? I have no trouble with plain old "FemaleActor_fdDoggy". It is when I add the Male and Female that things go south.

[Zoranus]

I don't think it can read them that way yet. It would be useful for separating hetero and homo writing. Though I could use gender neutral writing if Apropos searched for custom animation folders over FemalexFemale, as it'd allow my works for the Leito Lesbian animations to play. Right now the little bit I've written probably won't ever play.

 

And yes, working on other custom animations.

[2dr0b]

I can't tell you how much I have appreciated this mod and the work that has gone into it. I wanted to share my own wording preference in the attached.

 

Quick explanation: I use this spreadsheet because it is easier for me to work that way.

Each tab corresponds for an animation category, for example FemaleActor_Male_Vaginal or FemaleActor_Male_Vaginal_Rape and contains columns for each stage.

Each column corresponds to a stage in the referenced animation category.

The text is JSON friendly formatted so that you can copy and paste it right into .txt file.

All text is intended for use with the 3rd Person view.

 

The only exception here is the Synonym tab, which of course, corresponds to some, but not all, entries I tweak in that .txt file.

I haven't gotten around to working out different themes, so all content is there.

 

I just think it is easier to edit and work on one spreadsheet then trying to work across multiple .txt files. This also makes it easier if anyone wants to take a look and see if anything is of interest here.

 

Thanks again, hopefully someone will find something they like!

 

Update to my post with additional synonyms, and unique animation text for some 3jiou animations.

Common Name

3jiou Anal

3jiou Cowgirl

3jiou Doggystyle

3jiou Domination

3jiou Holding

3jiou Laying

3jiou Laying Variant

3jiou Standing

3jiou Standing Variant

 

Same basic idea as before.

More of a selective adaptation of my generic category content to unique situations then completely new content.

Original spreadsheet was becoming a bit large, so I'll make a couple of separate unique animations spreadsheets.

 

Enjoy!

apropos working 20150831.xlsx

apropos working unique animations 20150831.xlsx

[Zoranus]

I'd look at these, but I don't have the software to open up xlsx files at the moment. (Used an online viewer.) Thanks for the showing of the spreadsheet style. I don't mind opening up multiple txt files myself, but definitely makes it easier. If I buy a spreadsheet software, may migrate to the same format. But more likely, and for now, keeping with txt folder up loads.

 

Should have some more descriptions up within 24-48 hours. Probably 48. Plan on modifying/making my own Synonyms too and possible creating new tags more appropriate for the loving theme. If you want any specific animation described for my next upload, let me know and I'll include it. I plan on doing most of them, bar creature animations and three+ people animations and animations described well enough by generic descriptions for the moment. Doing one or two nonconsensual ones too, might be in the next upload.

[karlpaws]

Google Docs, free, online, should let you open and edit those xlsx (should be a microsoft excel, 2010 or later, XML format, iirc).

 

You can also download the Open or Libre office packages for free and handle them just as well.  Those are what I'm most familiar with.  I know there are other free office packages out there but not sure how good they are.  Libre's been my production package for over a decade.

[2dr0b]

Google Docs, free, online, should let you open and edit those xlsx (should be a microsoft excel, 2010 or later, XML format, iirc).

 

You can also download the Open or Libre office packages for free and handle them just as well.  Those are what I'm most familiar with.  I know there are other free office packages out there but not sure how good they are.  Libre's been my production package for over a decade.

 

 

I'd look at these, but I don't have the software to open up xlsx files at the moment. (Used an online viewer.) Thanks for the showing of the spreadsheet style. I don't mind opening up multiple txt files myself, but definitely makes it easier. If I buy a spreadsheet software, may migrate to the same format. But more likely, and for now, keeping with txt folder up loads.

 

Should have some more descriptions up within 24-48 hours. Probably 48. Plan on modifying/making my own Synonyms too and possible creating new tags more appropriate for the loving theme. If you want any specific animation described for my next upload, let me know and I'll include it. I plan on doing most of them, bar creature animations and three+ people animations and animations described well enough by generic descriptions for the moment. Doing one or two nonconsensual ones too, might be in the next upload.

 

Sorry the spreadsheets (workbooks really I suppose I should say) are making trouble. I can post some .txt files, I just don't think it's the easiest way to handle it. I assume that most paying attention to this topic have some sort of custom database they like already. Like many, I'd imagine, I started with some of the great resources here and am building off that. I can put up my database if that's easier, maybe when I'm done working through a few more things.

 

Thanks, looking forward to your update!

[Zoranus]

I managed to view the spreadsheets, no problem.

 

Only managed 2/3s of what I wanted to upload. Was working on ArrokLegUp as a non-consensual and Leito's Lesbian 1, but only halfway done with one and a quarter with the other. Also did not finish my synonym list. Will put those in a separate update I guess with anything else I've finished at that time. These surprisingly take hours to finish as you have to find the way to say the same thing several times (Which takes about 4 minutes per text file at the minimum, which is about 30 minutes per animation). and then make sure they work, which takes about 30 minutes too.

 

This update includes Leito Missionary 2, and three foreplay descriptions to accommodate the already existing female ones (3j Massage, Arrok Sitting, and Leito Kissing 1.). Because I'm updating my synonym list, I'm not using them much at the moment, rather the descriptions I Plan to use for the synonyms to fit the style.

 

This also includes the previous Leito Missionary, I plan to update again in a week or less. Thanks for using these if you are!

 

 

 

ZoranUpdate2.7z

[Leito86]

Good stuff Zoranus.  Keep it up!

[chimiz]

Absolutely huge fan of this mod, it is fantastic for adding a great layer of immersion to the game. Although when doing some edits to the txt, I noticed that the text cuts off if it's a little short. I tried turning off segmenting to make the text change size instead, but there was no change. The text was still the same size, with cut off messages. Is there any solution to that?

 

As for some suggestions;

 

-Would it be a huge undertaking to increase the limit on how long the messages can be displayed?  If multiple things are happening, 10 seconds can be a bit short.

-Would it be possible to allow for multiple messages from the same stage, spaced out some? For example if you make the stages last longer through SexLab, that one text appears at the start and disappears quickly, leaving you with "silence" for a longer time, sometimes!

[karlpaws]

Absolutely huge fan of this mod, it is fantastic for adding a great layer of immersion to the game. Although when doing some edits to the txt, I noticed that the text cuts off if it's a little short. I tried turning off segmenting to make the text change size instead, but there was no change. The text was still the same size, with cut off messages. Is there any solution to that?

 

As for some suggestions;

 

-Would it be a huge undertaking to increase the limit on how long the messages can be displayed?  If multiple things are happening, 10 seconds can be a bit short.

-Would it be possible to allow for multiple messages from the same stage, spaced out some? For example if you make the stages last longer through SexLab, that one text appears at the start and disappears quickly, leaving you with "silence" for a longer time, sometimes!

 

With the new message widget system, only so many characters can be displayed, the rest of the line is cut off.

 

In the MCM, you can set how long messages are displayed.

 

I would also love a multi message per stage system, but there could be a lot of problems implementing such a thing.  For one, I think it would involve a timer, meaning more scripts, meaning more potential problems. As it is now, when the stage changes, new line is printed. You would have to have new stage, new line, wait # seconds, check if stage changed, print new line, interrupt for new stage line, etc.

 

Guess I'd rather have complete same sex support first, and then maybe some futa/female as dominant support. Several mods, like Dangerous Nights, have an option where a female NPC can rape a male PC, or follower I think, and that would mean different dialog than would normally be found in a MaleActor_Cowgirl_Rape_Stage# file.

 

I have NO idea how that would be handled though... unless we go to a Female_MaleActor_Rape_animationname_Stage# format, with the Actor tag representing where the PC is and Female/Male tag for the NPC.  I think that was suggested for the Male_MaleActor or FemaleActor_Female samesex handling.

[Zoranus]

You can sort of do this with unique animations.

 

So presently, if a woman rapes a man, they play non-aggressive messages. If you know you only want an animation for rape, you can create the non-aggressive messages to suggest she is raping the male with your standard FemaleActor_AnimationName_Stage#. What you use for the text file can then be non-consensual. A temporary work around until there exists something in the present time.

 

So in the meantime, if there are any animations that come out that feature aggressive women, I can add them to my to do list.

[2dr0b]

Happy to share my now complete database. The zip file contains organized .txt files as well as the excel workbooks I've posted previously.

 

EDIT: I have uploaded a new file which fixes a few minor issues including corrected registration names and Stage1 animation texts. Seems to be working fine for me now.

 

This is a large make over which includes many new and updated synonyms:

 

 

    "{ACCEPT}" :     "{ACCEPTED}" :     "{ACCEPTING}" :     "{ACCEPTS}" :     "{AMPLE}" :     "{ASHAMED}" :     "{ASS}" :     "{BITCH}" :     "{BITCH2}" :     "{BOOBS}" :     "{COCK}" :     "{COCKSIZE}" :     "{CUM}" :     "{DEMANDS}" :     "{DOLL}" :     "{FEAR}" :     "{FFAMILY}" :     "{FORCE}" :     "{FORCED}" :     "{FORCES}" :     "{FORCING}" :     "{FUCK}" :     "{FUCKED}" :     "{FUCKING}" :     "{FUCKS}" :     "{HELPLESSTO}" :     "{HEAVING}" :     "{HUGE}" :     "{HYSTERICALLY}" :     "{INSERTS}" :     "{JIGGLE}" :     "{JIGGLES}" :     "{JIGGLING}" :     "{LOUDLY}" :     "{MEEK}" :     "{MEEKLY}" :     "{MFAMILY}" :     "{MMOANS}" :     "{MNONFAMILY}" :     "{MOAN}" :     "{MOANING}" :     "{MOANS}" :     "{MOUTH}" :     "{PENETRATING}" :     "{PENETRATE}" :     "{PENETRATES}" :     "{PLAYTHING}" :     "{PLEASURE}" :     "{PUSSY}" :     "{RAPE}" :     "{RAPED}" :     "{RAPES}" :     "{RESIST}" :     "{RESISTAGAINST}" :     "{RESISTANCE}" :     "{RESISTED}" :     "{RESISTING}" :     "{RESISTS}" :     "{RESTRAINT}" :     "{REVEALING}" :     "{REVEALS}" :     "{ROUGH}" :     "{ROUGHLY}" :     "{SHAME}" :     "{SHIVER}" :     "{SHIVERING}" :     "{SHIVERS}" :     "{SLUTTY}" :     "{SOFT}" :     "{STROKE}" :     "{STROKES}" :     "{STUPID}" :     "{THRUST}" :     "{THRUSTING}" :     "{THRUSTS}" :     "{TRIES}" :     "{TRY}" :     "{TRYING}" :     "{WET}" :     "{WHORE}" :     "{YIELD}" :     "{YIELDED}" :     "{YIELDING}" :     "{YIELDS}" :

 

 

 

As well as many unique animations:

 

 

    "amSleeping" : true,     "AP Shoulder" : true,     "APLegUp" : true,     "ArrokBlowjob" : true,     "ArrokBoobjob" : true,     "ArrokCowgirl" : true,     "ArrokDoggyStyle" : true,     "ArrokHugFuck" : true,     "ArrokOral" : true,     "ArrokRape" : true,     "ArrokReverseCowgirl" : true,     "ArrokSideways" : true,     "ArrokStanding" : true,     "DarkInvestigationsBlowjob" : true,     "DarkInvestigationsDoggystyle" : true,     "fdCowgirl" : true,     "fdDoggyStyle" : true,     "fdLegUp" : true,     "fdRCowgirl" : true,     "leito69" : true,     "leitoAggressiveBlowjob" : true,     "leitoAggressiveMissionary" : true,     "leitoAggressiveMissionaryAnal" : true,     "leitoAnalPowerbomb" : true,     "leitoBlowjob" : true,     "leitoBlowjob2" : true,     "leitoBlowjob3" : true,     "leitoCowgirl" : true,     "leitoCowgirl2" : true,     "leitoDoggy" : true,     "leitoDoggy1" : true,     "leitoDoggy2" : true,     "LeitoDoggyAnal" : true,     "leitoDoggyAnal1" : true,     "leitoDoggyAnal2" : true,     "leitoRCowgirl" : true,     "leitoSpooning" : true,     "leitoStanding" : true,     "MitosHugBehind" : true,     "MitosLapLove" : true,     "mitosPound" : true,     "MitosReachAround" : true,     "MitosReverseCowgirl" : true,     "MitosStanding" : true,     "MitosTease" : true,     "SexLabAggrBehind" : true,     "SexLabAggrDoggyStyle" : true,     "SexLabAggrMissionary" : true,     "SexLabDoggyStyle" : true,     "SexLabHuggingSex" : true,     "SexLabReverseCowgirl" : true,     "SexLabSideways" : true,     "SexLabStanding" : true,     "zjAnal" : true,     "zjCowgirl" : true,     "zjDoggy" : true,     "zjDomination" : true,     "zjHolding" : true,     "zjLaying" : true,     "zjLayingVar" : true,     "zjStanding" : true,     "zjStandingVar" : true,     "ZynDoggystyle" : true,     "ZynMissionary" : true,     "ZynRoughStanding" : true,     "ZynStanding" : true,

 

 

 

Finally in the spirit of the exciting election season in the US, I've included a few easter eggs which I hope will provide a light to moderate chuckle. They are probably a lot more funny if you just them them happen, but you can search the .txt files if you must. They are not in the excel workbooks.

 

Please enjoy!

I would be very grateful if you all would kindly point out any errors encountered.

 

Older Posts for reference:

 

 

 

I can't tell you how much I have appreciated this mod and the work that has gone into it. I wanted to share my own wording preference in the attached.

 

Quick explanation: I use this spreadsheet because it is easier for me to work that way.

Each tab corresponds for an animation category, for example FemaleActor_Male_Vaginal or FemaleActor_Male_Vaginal_Rape and contains columns for each stage.

Each column corresponds to a stage in the referenced animation category.

The text is JSON friendly formatted so that you can copy and paste it right into .txt file.

All text is intended for use with the 3rd Person view.

 

The only exception here is the Synonym tab, which of course, corresponds to some, but not all, entries I tweak in that .txt file.

I haven't gotten around to working out different themes, so all content is there.

 

I just think it is easier to edit and work on one spreadsheet then trying to work across multiple .txt files. This also makes it easier if anyone wants to take a look and see if anything is of interest here.

 

Thanks again, hopefully someone will find something they like!

 

Update to my post with additional synonyms, and unique animation text for some 3jiou animations.

Common Name

3jiou Anal

3jiou Cowgirl

3jiou Doggystyle

3jiou Domination

3jiou Holding

3jiou Laying

3jiou Laying Variant

3jiou Standing

3jiou Standing Variant

 

Same basic idea as before.

More of a selective adaptation of my generic category content to unique situations then completely new content.

Original spreadsheet was becoming a bit large, so I'll make a couple of separate unique animations spreadsheets.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

Apropos DB 20150808_2.7z

[Zoranus]

Thanks for the upload. Do you plan on sending some of these to first/second person?

 

 When the Themes get more developed I may use yours under one of the theme sections.

 

Progress note: Almost done with Leito Lesbian 1 (2 more lines per stage left) and finished my synonym changes. Added tag {LOVER} and tag {RAPIST} for my upcoming non-consensual ones. Kept some of the descriptors as they were but changed a lot of others to keep the theme to a softcore. To keep the pitinonconsensual soft, portraying the aggressor as a bad guy and the woman more pitiable/seeking revenge rather than wants to be in her situation. Its slow progress because I work on the animations when they play in my game, and Leito Lesbian one doesn't always come up.

 

And I thought about doing a more extensive synonym list like you did 2dr0b, but I like playing with my lines more for alliteration/assonance/flow and its hard to get that with random selection, so my tag use will probably be pretty low.

 

I might also start adding soon to the general FemaleActor_FemaleActor lines and release my own loving theme while we wait for the standard one, since I have some practice now.

[karlpaws]

You can sort of do this with unique animations.

 

So presently, if a woman rapes a man, they play non-aggressive messages. If you know you only want an animation for rape, you can create the non-aggressive messages to suggest she is raping the male with your standard FemaleActor_AnimationName_Stage#. What you use for the text file can then be non-consensual. A temporary work around until there exists something in the present time.

 

So in the meantime, if there are any animations that come out that feature aggressive women, I can add them to my to do list.

 

I am not sure that Sexlab is able to sort animations based on male or female aggressor.   If so, what you suggest would be an easy option. I rather wish Sexlab itself, and some other mods like Defeat or Leveling would have such an option... Leveling does have a toggle that lets you pick if the female PC is in the Male context or not, and equips or not a strapon.

 

My head canon would operate that the female knocks down her bandit victim, hits him with her dovah or vampire magic to enthrall and arrouse him, and then goes for a ride on his pogo stick. (So, mostly cowgirl animations.... which I could just rewrite and then change animation till I get the right ones, but that has seemed to screw up other things in the past. Might be time to try that again.)

[2dr0b]

Thanks for the upload. Do you plan on sending some of these to first/second person?

 

 When the Themes get more developed I may use yours under one of the theme sections.

 

Progress note: Almost done with Leito Lesbian 1 (2 more lines per stage left) and finished my synonym changes. Added tag {LOVER} and tag {RAPIST} for my upcoming non-consensual ones. Kept some of the descriptors as they were but changed a lot of others to keep the theme to a softcore. To keep the pitinonconsensual soft, portraying the aggressor as a bad guy and the woman more pitiable/seeking revenge rather than wants to be in her situation. Its slow progress because I work on the animations when they play in my game, and Leito Lesbian one doesn't always come up.

 

And I thought about doing a more extensive synonym list like you did 2dr0b, but I like playing with my lines more for alliteration/assonance/flow and its hard to get that with random selection, so my tag use will probably be pretty low.

 

I might also start adding soon to the general FemaleActor_FemaleActor lines and release my own loving theme while we wait for the standard one, since I have some practice now.

 

I'm not too keen on first/second person myself. I don't know that I'd really be interested in doing that, I'd rather work on improving what I have.

 

I know what you mean with synonyms. I also really enjoy your writing style. It is hard to come up with options that work well. One thing I'll note is that I think if they are done well and cover enough of a phrase you can substitute "themed" synonym sets and get a different tone. I am drawn to their role in centralizing control of content, it is fun.

 

Looking forward to your future updates!

[karlpaws]

You can sort of do this with unique animations.

 

So presently, if a woman rapes a man, they play non-aggressive messages. If you know you only want an animation for rape, you can create the non-aggressive messages to suggest she is raping the male with your standard FemaleActor_AnimationName_Stage#. What you use for the text file can then be non-consensual. A temporary work around until there exists something in the present time.

 

So in the meantime, if there are any animations that come out that feature aggressive women, I can add them to my to do list.

 

 

I had another thought, that I just realized might work for me, maybe... but might not work for others.

 

I was going to suggest making a batch file to change the name of a theme folder, and having all of the dominate female dialog files a level up and outside of the theme folder.

 

Then I realized that the bat files you can run from the console are just within the game... but I could make windows bat files and run them from the 2nd computer I use sometimes to edit dialog files while in the game, where I can test them.

 

I guess waiting for on the fly theme changing or some better sexlab options is required.

 

 

Happy to share my now complete database. The zip file contains organized .txt files as well as the excel workbooks I've posted previously.

This is a large make over which includes many new and updated synonyms:

Finally in the spirit of the exciting election season in the US, I've included a few easter eggs which I hope will provide a light to moderate chuckle. They are probably a lot more funny if you just them them happen, but you can search the .txt files if you must. They are not in the excel workbooks.

 

Please enjoy!

I would be very grateful if you all would kindly point out any errors encountered.

 

 

 

 

I did download your package last night and took a look at it. Since I primarily write for 1st person for female pc and 2nd for male pc.  Your 3rd person kinda doesn't fit but I do like a lot of your lines and might use some of them myself.  The synonym system you have is inspiriational, and I might use quite a few of those tags.

 

I had thought about using some some kind of phrase system, since single word replacement didn't seem to make that much if a different tone. Your style helps me think about that though, since you replace so many words and came up with a lot of synonyms.

 

Gotta say though, your character is apparently a married woman with family issues, and getting nailed by her brother's boss wouldn't work in a lot of situations.

 

That is something I kinda wish something could use though, since Skyrim does have relationship tags.  Would be really interesting if apropos could pick up on that and the location, or if a mod framework could take that and supply it to other mods.

[Zoranus]

To clarify what I mean above, because it does work, just with faults, not sure if you understood it:

 

Sexlab/Apropos at the moment has female aggressor playing normal files from the female folder or the female_unique animation folder. If you know that you will only use say ap cowgirl for aggressive animations, write all your non-aggressive text files as if they are aggressive. Yes, the same file can play even in normal situations when it's consensual as well, but that's the caveat.

 

So female actor_apcowgirl_stage number txt file? Write your lines as if it is aggressive.

 

I think if using defeat and you toggle it as aggressive in sexlab mcm, you can at least make individual animations work this way.

 

I've no investment in it personally and would rather wait for an implementation that works smoothly. But if we do get animations that work for an aggressive female context, I'll use my above system to describe the unique animation.

[2dr0b]

 

You can sort of do this with unique animations.

 

So presently, if a woman rapes a man, they play non-aggressive messages. If you know you only want an animation for rape, you can create the non-aggressive messages to suggest she is raping the male with your standard FemaleActor_AnimationName_Stage#. What you use for the text file can then be non-consensual. A temporary work around until there exists something in the present time.

 

So in the meantime, if there are any animations that come out that feature aggressive women, I can add them to my to do list.

 

 

I had another thought, that I just realized might work for me, maybe... but might not work for others.

 

I was going to suggest making a batch file to change the name of a theme folder, and having all of the dominate female dialog files a level up and outside of the theme folder.

 

Then I realized that the bat files you can run from the console are just within the game... but I could make windows bat files and run them from the 2nd computer I use sometimes to edit dialog files while in the game, where I can test them.

 

I guess waiting for on the fly theme changing or some better sexlab options is required.

 

 

Happy to share my now complete database. The zip file contains organized .txt files as well as the excel workbooks I've posted previously.

This is a large make over which includes many new and updated synonyms:

Finally in the spirit of the exciting election season in the US, I've included a few easter eggs which I hope will provide a light to moderate chuckle. They are probably a lot more funny if you just them them happen, but you can search the .txt files if you must. They are not in the excel workbooks.

 

Please enjoy!

I would be very grateful if you all would kindly point out any errors encountered.

 

 

 

 

I did download your package last night and took a look at it. Since I primarily write for 1st person for female pc and 2nd for male pc.  Your 3rd person kinda doesn't fit but I do like a lot of your lines and might use some of them myself.  The synonym system you have is inspiriational, and I might use quite a few of those tags.

 

I had thought about using some some kind of phrase system, since single word replacement didn't seem to make that much if a different tone. Your style helps me think about that though, since you replace so many words and came up with a lot of synonyms.

 

Gotta say though, your character is apparently a married woman with family issues, and getting nailed by her brother's boss wouldn't work in a lot of situations.

 

That is something I kinda wish something could use though, since Skyrim does have relationship tags.  Would be really interesting if apropos could pick up on that and the location, or if a mod framework could take that and supply it to other mods.

 

I'm with you on the relationship information API, that would be great. The other thing I'd like, while we are on the subject, is a quick few lines which would indicate the surface (a bed or the ground). I think this could feasible because sex lab already handles beds, so no need to pull new data. The idea is that I found myself frequently noting when the participants dropped to the ground, or lay down etc. I would want to say something, 'PC lays down on the {GROUND}' where {GROUND} returns whether it is a bed or the floor.

 

As to the content, yea what can I say, I'm less concerned with "immersion."

 

The synonyms are a lot of fun. Working with the text in a few excel files vs many .txt documents made this a lot easier as I could make match changes and see how they looked. If you do come up with some I’d love to see those.

 

Sorry about the first/second person bit. It would be fairly quick to change the text, it’s really the process of applying that data into all the text files which seems a bit daunting to me. I tried to play around with access to get it to spit out a properly formatted .txt file but no luck. If there is a more intelligent means of doing this I'd love to learn about it.

[karlpaws]

 

 

You can sort of do this with unique animations.

 

So presently, if a woman rapes a man, they play non-aggressive messages. If you know you only want an animation for rape, you can create the non-aggressive messages to suggest she is raping the male with your standard FemaleActor_AnimationName_Stage#. What you use for the text file can then be non-consensual. A temporary work around until there exists something in the present time.

 

So in the meantime, if there are any animations that come out that feature aggressive women, I can add them to my to do list.

 

 

I had another thought, that I just realized might work for me, maybe... but might not work for others.

 

I was going to suggest making a batch file to change the name of a theme folder, and having all of the dominate female dialog files a level up and outside of the theme folder.

 

Then I realized that the bat files you can run from the console are just within the game... but I could make windows bat files and run them from the 2nd computer I use sometimes to edit dialog files while in the game, where I can test them.

 

I guess waiting for on the fly theme changing or some better sexlab options is required.

 

 

Happy to share my now complete database. The zip file contains organized .txt files as well as the excel workbooks I've posted previously.

This is a large make over which includes many new and updated synonyms:

Finally in the spirit of the exciting election season in the US, I've included a few easter eggs which I hope will provide a light to moderate chuckle. They are probably a lot more funny if you just them them happen, but you can search the .txt files if you must. They are not in the excel workbooks.

 

Please enjoy!

I would be very grateful if you all would kindly point out any errors encountered.

 

 

 

 

I did download your package last night and took a look at it. Since I primarily write for 1st person for female pc and 2nd for male pc.  Your 3rd person kinda doesn't fit but I do like a lot of your lines and might use some of them myself.  The synonym system you have is inspiriational, and I might use quite a few of those tags.

 

I had thought about using some some kind of phrase system, since single word replacement didn't seem to make that much if a different tone. Your style helps me think about that though, since you replace so many words and came up with a lot of synonyms.

 

Gotta say though, your character is apparently a married woman with family issues, and getting nailed by her brother's boss wouldn't work in a lot of situations.

 

That is something I kinda wish something could use though, since Skyrim does have relationship tags.  Would be really interesting if apropos could pick up on that and the location, or if a mod framework could take that and supply it to other mods.

 

I'm with you on the relationship information API, that would be great. The other thing I'd like, while we are on the subject, is a quick few lines which would indicate the surface (a bed or the ground). I think this could feasible because sex lab already handles beds, so no need to pull new data. The idea is that I found myself frequently noting when the participants dropped to the ground, or lay down etc. I would want to say something, 'PC lays down on the {GROUND}' where {GROUND} returns whether it is a bed or the floor.

 

As to the content, yea what can I say, I'm less concerned with "immersion."

 

The synonyms are a lot of fun. Working with the text in a few excel files vs many .txt documents made this a lot easier as I could make match changes and see how they looked. If you do come up with some I’d love to see those.

 

Sorry about the first/second person bit. It would be fairly quick to change the text, it’s really the process of applying that data into all the text files which seems a bit daunting to me. I tried to play around with access to get it to spit out a properly formatted .txt file but no luck. If there is a more intelligent means of doing this I'd love to learn about it.

 

 

There have been a few times when I've debated just swapping to 3rd person based on the troubles I've had phrasing things, especially around pronouns and such. First / second person just lets me re-use a lot of the same lines, and swap a him to a her... and then use the same DB for a male playthrough or female. I just swap which voice I'm using.

 

I'm not sure if there is a surface reference in the game anywhere, but you could assume ground or floor based on indoors or out, and "bed" is or could be known based on whether one is used or not.  Type might even be availble, based on the furniture.. I think you can find out if a bed is hay pile, bedroll, low class bed, or high class.  There is another person working on usable furnature, for the animations that use them.  He's trying to avoid spawning a chair in the middle of a room, or out in the forest, for the seated blowjobs, over the knee spankings, and such. Seems like he's having some success, though there were problems detecting a chair in the room, and then making it so the sex anim used it, and random NPCs did not (2 guys in the chair, for example, and only one of them spanking the female ).

 

The synonym thing gelled a little when I was reading through your lines, and you had a "No what would my {family} say?" "Who do you think I paid" line.  Having lines like "No, not in my {ass}" is what I've had, but a "No, {reasons}" could include "I'm late to see the Jarl" "There's a dragon coming" "I think I hear howling" "You gotta pay extra for that", and similar.

 

 

[karlpaws]

To clarify what I mean above, because it does work, just with faults, not sure if you understood it:

 

Sexlab/Apropos at the moment has female aggressor playing normal files from the female folder or the female_unique animation folder. If you know that you will only use say ap cowgirl for aggressive animations, write all your non-aggressive text files as if they are aggressive. Yes, the same file can play even in normal situations when it's consensual as well, but that's the caveat.

 

So female actor_apcowgirl_stage number txt file? Write your lines as if it is aggressive.

 

I think if using defeat and you toggle it as aggressive in sexlab mcm, you can at least make individual animations work this way.

 

I've no investment in it personally and would rather wait for an implementation that works smoothly. But if we do get animations that work for an aggressive female context, I'll use my above system to describe the unique animation.

 

I think I got what you were trying to say, just didn't take the time to type out all of why what I do means it wouldn't work.

 

I'm also looking for a good, proper implentation, to automate what I haven't bothered much to do manually.

 

 

I don't use just certain animations for female raping male, since I don't know of a good way to do that.  Unless I get more familiar with mods like Sexlab tools, or something else that can let me quickly pick animations, I don't have a way better than hitting O to cycle through animations.

 

Depending on how the anim got called, soemtimes I do cycle though and only have 3-4 available. I think that means certain tags were used to select the anim and it just picks based on those.  The few times I have used mods, I had trouble getting them to work, since you either had to hit the key at the right time in the anim, or something else was needed I didn't understand, so it didn't appear to work, or did not do what I wanted.

 

The other thing is, depending on my play, I might have my female PC both jumping on guys, and getting beaten and raped in different encounters, so I can't even write all of the female rape stages as her doing the jumping, and then the male ones as him jumping female NPCs. With better male on male support in Apropos, I could use those files for certain content, and one of the gender switchers pre-combat or pre-rape to determine which files to use.

 

I think it just all comes down to the way Sexlab handles positions and always puts the females in the "recieve" position for aggression, unless they're "in the male position" and using a strapon or futa-cock. If the 0 and 1 positions were defined separately from aggressor and victim, I think the whole system would be easier to write for.... but then I don't think Sexlab was designed with what we want to do in mind at all.

 

So I'll just be patient and hope.

[chainsaw40k]

So I messed around with the scripts a bit and managed to get female on male rape working. I haven't tested it much and the dialogue is just a gender-swapped version of straight male rape (only Anal, Oral and Fisting) but I figured I'd upload it here incase someone was interested.

 

Make sure its positoned  after  apropos in Mod Organizer so it overwrites it.

Apropos FM Rape.zip