Apropos

[Earen]

 

@VladHeterodyne couldn't you somehow mix old JC and .pex (script) files from the new (3.0 version)? If JC version is 3.X then JContainers.log should contain some text saying about 3.X version

 

I don't know if that would work or not, but I have no idea how I'd begin to do that in the first place.

It sounds like it would work, though.

 

 

You seems do not understand. First part of my post is suggestion about source if the issue. I didn't offered to mix anything. And the second describes way to prove suggestion

[VladHeterodyne]

 

You seems do not understand. First part of my post is suggestion about source if the issue. I didn't offered to mix anything. And the second describes way to prove suggestion

 

 

I understood what you meant. I was just saying it's a good idea, but I do not have the skills required to actual do that.

I did not mean to imply that you would be the one to do it, I apologize for not being clear.

Thank you for the suggestion.

[Earen]

 

I understood what you meant. I was just saying it's a good idea, but I do not have the skills required to actual do that.

I did not mean to imply that you would be the one to do it, I apologize for not being clear.

Thank you for the suggestion.

 

JContainers.log is in "\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE\" folder. Just a regular text file

[REALnomad]

I havent any mods use jcontainers before apropos but still textures of wear and tear arent shown on player. I use ningheim race with unpb bbp

[gooser]

I havent any mods use jcontainers before apropos but still textures of wear and tear arent shown on player. I use ningheim race with unpb bbp

 

Can you go into Slavetats and apply any tatoo to the character? I would make sure Slavetats is working as a mod first.

[REALnomad]

Can you go into Slavetats and apply any tatoo to the character? I would make sure Slavetats is working as a mod first.

 

Slavetats works for me. And i have two external tattoos shown in slavetats menu which should be from apropos but not visible.

[gooser]

 

Can you go into Slavetats and apply any tatoo to the character? I would make sure Slavetats is working as a mod first.

 

Slavetats works for me. And i have two external tattoos shown in slavetats menu which should be from apropos but not visible.

 

 

Post a screenshot of your Apropos MCM Wear and Tear Actors page.

[REALnomad]

i tried maximum weariness but still doesnt work

 

 

[gooser]

i tried maximum weariness but still doesnt work

 

 

 

 

Looks like your PC has been having a bit of consensual sex. The textures are only applied for rape/abuse scenarios. See the bottom section? They need to be 4 or above to apply anything. 

[ntblood]

I had to start a new game from other issues and it fixed apropos's messages seeming to be stuck : )

[RockMic]

I really like this mod, especially the system of usury.

[nutluck]

Ok not sure if this is by design, a bug, or a feature that has not yet been implemented yet. I was doing some testing with mods, during the test I noticed that forced sex by large creatures and animals didn't seem to raise the w&t any faster than human sized. So I ran a test, using the command lines I brought in a horse and fought till defeat kicked in, then a gargoyle, a troll and finally a werewolf and the w&t went up but it looked to go up the same as 4 bandits.

 

So thought I would report it, incase it is a bug.

[LibertyPrime]

I know this is probably beyond the scope and limits of this mod, so I'll be satisfied with a simple "no" for an answer, but I'll give it a shot anyway: now that slavetats is optionally integrated, is there any way to make your character get dirtier (as in, literally) and have dirt textures applied to their body the more sex they have? I'm not talking about cum stains all over the body but that would be neat too. SlaveTats already has an optional pack uploaded on the mod's page that adds jizz all over your character's body; however, you have to do it manually.

[gooser]

Ok not sure if this is by design, a bug, or a feature that has not yet been implemented yet. I was doing some testing with mods, during the test I noticed that forced sex by large creatures and animals didn't seem to raise the w&t any faster than human sized. So I ran a test, using the command lines I brought in a horse and fought till defeat kicked in, then a gargoyle, a troll and finally a werewolf and the w&t went up but it looked to go up the same as 4 bandits.

 

So thought I would report it, incase it is a bug.

 

There should be a large difference in W&T. The best way to test this is look at the Apropos log with Debug & Trace enabled. It spits out the specific computations to the log file in good amount of detail.

 

All the W&T amounts are controlled by the json control file: WearAndTear_Damage.txt.

 

Humanoids generally apply a W&T damage of 20.0, whereas Gargoyles inflict 90.0; horses 160.0.

 

So, a single horse encounter should increase the W&T by 8X what a humanoid would do.

 

The actual amounts vary slightly (+/-) in a random way so no encounter is identical, and if the encounter is aggressive or rape, the amounts are increased. But you can get an idea from the control file how these amounts are based. 

 

How did you test it? I have now played through a third time with a new character level 0 - level 50, using two female followers and it consistently works - although interruptions do occur when the scene is script heavy or stack thrashing occurs (Like with 20+ falmer in alftand animonculory). In script heavy scenarios several scripts can fail, not just Apropos, but also others, like Defeat.

 

Generally to see this in the best neutral location, I would pick a new character, and in the Live Another Life "Prison Cell", use Hentai Creatures (now part of More Nasty Critters) to summon critters and train with them. Be sure to enable Apropos logging for Debug & Trace.

[gooser]

I know this is probably beyond the scope and limits of this mod, so I'll be satisfied with a simple "no" for an answer, but I'll give it a shot anyway: now that slavetats is optionally integrated, is there any way to make your character get dirtier (as in, literally) and have dirt textures applied to their body the more sex they have? I'm not talking about cum stains all over the body but that would be neat too. SlaveTats already has an optional pack uploaded on the mod's page that adds jizz all over your character's body; however, you have to do it manually.

 

I'm not sure what you mean, if you can provide a link to the said textures you are interested in, I can look at them and judge if they make sense to include?

[LibertyPrime]

 

I know this is probably beyond the scope and limits of this mod, so I'll be satisfied with a simple "no" for an answer, but I'll give it a shot anyway: now that slavetats is optionally integrated, is there any way to make your character get dirtier (as in, literally) and have dirt textures applied to their body the more sex they have? I'm not talking about cum stains all over the body but that would be neat too. SlaveTats already has an optional pack uploaded on the mod's page that adds jizz all over your character's body; however, you have to do it manually.

 

I'm not sure what you mean, if you can provide a link to the said textures you are interested in, I can look at them and judge if they make sense to include?

 

 

Well, for the sperm textures:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/download/619-slavetats/

 

(last two files)

 

For the dirt textures, I'm sure I saw some on a SexLab plugin somewhere... I can't seem to find it now. In any case, I'm guessing it wouldn't be so difficult? I'm not every skilled at PS, but would it be possible?

[gooser]

I really like this mod, especially the system of usury.

 

usury = "the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest."

 

?????

[gooser]

 

 

I know this is probably beyond the scope and limits of this mod, so I'll be satisfied with a simple "no" for an answer, but I'll give it a shot anyway: now that slavetats is optionally integrated, is there any way to make your character get dirtier (as in, literally) and have dirt textures applied to their body the more sex they have? I'm not talking about cum stains all over the body but that would be neat too. SlaveTats already has an optional pack uploaded on the mod's page that adds jizz all over your character's body; however, you have to do it manually.

 

I'm not sure what you mean, if you can provide a link to the said textures you are interested in, I can look at them and judge if they make sense to include?

 

 

Well, for the sperm textures:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/download/619-slavetats/

 

(last two files)

 

For the dirt textures, I'm sure I saw some on a SexLab plugin somewhere... I can't seem to find it now. In any case, I'm guessing it wouldn't be so difficult? I'm not every skilled at PS, but would it be possible?

 

 

1. How do these cum textures differ from what SexLab itself applies? How would they be applied by Apropos ? Wouldn't they be redundant with SexLab's application of the "standard textures"?

2. I think the dirt textures you are referring to are part of "Skin Textures"  : http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/835-skintextures/

 

I evaluated those when I initially was looking at textures in general. I didn't know if generally people would be interested in seeing dirt applied when the others were in play.

[RockMic]

 

I really like this mod, especially the system of usury.

 

usury = "the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest."

 

?????

 

ahahahah, sorry for English.

I meant Wear.

[LibertyPrime]

I meant if you can get Apropos to somehow 'manage' cum textures and make them get applied to your character the more 'abused' and 'wore' it gets. SexLab adds sperm textures to your character only after sex. What I mean is that if it would be possible to automatically add the textures linked and make them 'stick' at your character, and only have it be removed when your 'wear and tear' status decreases. At the moment, SexLab has a tiny limit of how much cum textures can last on your character (for good reasons, I'm sure; but with Apropos handling these textures, I'm sure things could go more smoothly).

[nutluck]

Ok I thought it was suppose to, I tested it by just finding a place and then using console command to summon the creatures and letting defeat kick in. Then I would open the MCM menu and check out the rank the W&T abuse was at and it just didn't seem to be going up as much as I thought. I had a character at a level 1 and after a horse, gargoyle that took a double turn, a werewolf and a troll the level was only at 3. I expected it to be higher.

[gooser]

Ok I thought it was suppose to, I tested it by just finding a place and then using console command to summon the creatures and letting defeat kick in. Then I would open the MCM menu and check out the rank the W&T abuse was at and it just didn't seem to be going up as much as I thought. I had a character at a level 1 and after a horse, gargoyle that took a double turn, a werewolf and a troll the level was only at 3. I expected it to be higher.

 

what was 3? Anal? Vaginal? You have to pay attention to the animation tags (I usually hit console to see what is there) to see what area is being affected. Again, without a log file I can't really tell what's going on...

[gooser]

 

Ok I thought it was suppose to, I tested it by just finding a place and then using console command to summon the creatures and letting defeat kick in. Then I would open the MCM menu and check out the rank the W&T abuse was at and it just didn't seem to be going up as much as I thought. I had a character at a level 1 and after a horse, gargoyle that took a double turn, a werewolf and a troll the level was only at 3. I expected it to be higher.

 

what was 3? Anal? Vaginal? You have to pay attention to the animation tags (I usually hit console to see what is there) to see what area is being affected. Again, without a log file I can't really tell what's going on...

 

 

Here's an example:

[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] AproposActorAlias.IncreaseVaginalAbuseWearAndTear(44,TRUE,False,TRUE)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] AproposActorAlias.CalculateIncreasedWearTearValue(44,136)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] AproposActorAlias.CalculateIncreasedWearTearValue final calcuation: 173
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] Yesima: abuse-vaginal Wear & Tear = 173 (value) 5 (state)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] AproposActorAlias.CalculateIncreasedWearTearValue(44,120)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] AproposActorAlias.CalculateIncreasedWearTearValue final calcuation: 172
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] Yesima: creature-abuse-vaginal Wear & Tear = 172 (value) 5 (state)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] Apropos.GetAproposActor(Actor=Yesima)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] Found AproposActorAlias the represents the actor.
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] Vaginal=5(171)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - AbuseVaginal=5(173)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - CreatureAbuseVaginal=5(172)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - DaedricAbuseVaginal=0(0)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] Anal=2(supple)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - AbuseAnal=2(40)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - CreatureAbuseAnal=2(48)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - DaedricAbuseAnal=0(0)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] Oral=2(dilated)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - AbuseOral=2(44)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - CreatureAbuseOral=2(38)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - DaedricAbuseOral=0(0)
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - avg Abuse = 3
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - avg Creature Abuse = 4
[12/02/2014 - 09:14:24PM] - avg Daedric Abuse = 0

[nutluck]

Yeah I don't recall all but I think it was 1 anal and the rest vaginal. but I was just checking, when I get time i will check again and pay more attention to it and see if it was just a fluke, a bug, or me not pay close enough attention. I just expected to see them go up by more than two even if they was split between vaginal and anal on them.

 

Also it was 3 abuse level on both vaginal and anal and both was at a 1.

[nutluck]

Ok I tested it again this morning and this time the abused creature state went up from 0-4 after 4 werewolves. So it seems yesterday was a fluke because today it went up 4 for 4. Yesterday it went up only 3 after 5 times. I went back to the save at 0 and tried it again just to be sure and got 0-4 in 4 with trolls. So not sure what happened yesterday.