gooser Posted June 17, 2014 Author Posted June 17, 2014 Actually the code you reference has changed since that time, so I'm not even passing activeName anymore. In fact the fix last time was to do specifically what you suggest. But thanks.
Guest Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Here's the stage list for humans - Vaginal Missionary - 3 Arrak Missionary - 3 Doggy Style - 3 Sideways Fuck - 3 Arrok Sideways Fuck - 3 Hugging Fuck - 3 Standing Fuck - 3 Arrok HugFuck - 3 Arrok Standing Fuck - 3 Zyn Missionary - 4 Zyn DoggyStyle - 4 AP Shoulder - 4 AP Standing - 4 AP Bed Missionary - 5 Arrok Cowgirl - 5 AP Cowgirl - 5 Vaginal Rape Rough Missionary - 3 Zyn Rough Standing - 3 (stage 1 is F>M Oral) Arrok Leg Up Fuck - 4 AP Leg Up Fuck - 4 Anal Arrok Anal - 3 (stage 1 is M>F rimming) Arrok DoggyStyle - 3 Reverse Cowgirl - 3 Arrok Reverse Cowgirl - 3 AP DoggyStyle - 4 Anal Rape Rough Behind - 3 Rough DoggyStyle - 3 Arrok Rape - 3 AP Anal - 4 AP Face Down Anal - 4 AP Holding Leg Up - 4 Oral Arrok Blowjob - 3 Arrok 69 - 4 (stage 1 and orgasm are cunnilingus only, no felatio) AP Blowjob - 4 AP Kneeling Blowjob - 4 AP Standing Blowjob - 4 Oral Rape AP Skull Fuck - 4 Boobjob Boobjob - 3 Arrok Boobjob - 3 AP Boobjob - 4 (stage 4 also has masturbation) Misc AP Handjob - 4 Arrok Foreplay - 3 Arrok Sitting Foreplay - 3 Arrok Standing Foreplay - 3 Bleagh Footjob - 4 Bleaugh Female Masturbation - 4 AP Female Masturbation - 4 Arrok Male Masturbation - 3 Tribadism - 2 (vaginal tags) Arrok Lesbian - 3 (oral/vaginal tags) Zyn Lesbian - 3 (oral/vaginal tags) AP Fisting - 4 Arrok Devils Threeway - 3 (MMF) Arrok Tricycle - 3 (MFF) Zyn Double Penetration - 3 (MMF) Zyn Femdom - 3 (MFF) Zaz Pillory Bound - 5 (vaginal) Pillory Bound (alt) - 3 (M>F oral) Pillory Sex - 6 (vaginal) Pillory Sex (alt) - 6 (vaginal) Pillory Torment - 4 (M>F oral) Pillory Torment (alt) - 4 (spanking on first 3 stages, stage 4 is vaginal with broom) Doggy style (bound) - 3 (anal) Doggy style (two bound) - 4 (anal) Blowjob (bound) - 5 Lesbian (bound) - 4 Lesbian (two bound) - 4 Handjob, Footjob, Masturbation, Fisting & Foreplay tags should be pretty simple to implement, this would allow the relevant animations. The Lesbian animations seem to be loaded with everything, not sure what they'd trigger as. Can't tell though, since not a single FF animation I tried triggered a message. I ensured that the FF txt files were valid, but nothing. Zaz's animations all trigger as the relevant animations and work fine if enabled. In the case of animations with M>F oral, they simply have the Oral tag and will therefore assume the female is the giver. EDIT: Additional note; W&T increase messages work fine, but W&T decrease messages don't appear to use the txt files, instead giving a generic 'PC W&T decrease' message. EDIT 2: Does the arousal.txt file do anything, or is it just for our reference? And what dictates {READINESS} level?
Guest Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Log file below, contains both MMF & FF messages failing to appear, as asked for. There are also a couple of MFF animations going off because I forgot to filter them. Apropos.0.7z
gooser Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 gooser, REGRESSION? Male PC deflowers a virgin and HE gets the {CUM} in his {PUSSY} for the first time. I know you've fixed this in the past. ALSO ... MALE PC banging female follower. Her STATS are incrementing, but the WTVAGINAL/WTANAL/WTORAL are still returning "virgin". The "for the first time" message doesn't play again, and the stats show she's incrementing in those "disciplines". Just a token thing. This also happens with male PC banging NPC for the 1st (and 2nd and 3rd) time. 1st time is expected. After that W&T should obviously no longer be calling her a virgin. This is with NO time for degrade and like I said, her STATS are appearing correctly. I haven't run this test against a female PC yet. Chajapa, I have an update that applies to Male PC players only. It affects everything in the MaleActor_Female folder in the db. Basically the {PRIMARY} and {ACTIVE} tags need to be swapped in all instances. This needs to be done to accompany the code changes I've made in the mod. With Notepad++ you can open multiple files and do renames across files (using the Replace All in All Opened Files button) So you could swap the tags with three steps: CTRL-H, rename ACTIVE -> TOPRIMARY rename PRIMARY -> ACTIVE TOPRIMARY -> PRIMARY I've attached a mod update to test, to verify everything before you bother with the edits. You can just backup your current db folder (or rename it something like "db.save") before installing this version of the mod. Apropos_Beta_2014_06_18.MalePCTest.7z
gooser Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 Log file below, contains both MMF & FF messages failing to appear, as asked for. There are also a couple of MFF animations going off because I forgot to filter them. Maybe you attached the wrong apropos log file. I don't see any errors in this.
pinky6225 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Is anyone else having a problem where the names don't appear with the descriptions? Attached are my logs i first noticed it with a whiterun guard not saying the name of the npc the description was for Apropos logs.rar
gooser Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 Is anyone else having a problem where the names don't appear with the descriptions? Attached are my logs i first noticed it with a whiterun guard not saying the name of the npc the description was for Apropos logs.rar Are you using the latest version? That requires any updates you made to the database to have some tags adjusted. {PRIMARY_NAME} => {PRIMARY} {ACTIVE_NAME} => {ACTIVE} {WEARTEAR_ANAL} => {WTANAL} {WEARTEAR_VAGINAL} => {WTVAGINAL} {WEARTEAR_ORAL} => {WTORAL}
pinky6225 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Yeah i'm using the latest version though i did uninstall previous version and then install it, i've clicked refresh synmons quite a few times. I've not made any changes to the mod/mod related stuff myself though - where abouts do i need to add in the tags? Looking in FemaleActor_Male_Anal file in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\Apropos\db\FemaleActor_Male the file says... { "1st Person" : [ "{ACTIVE} slides his cock into my {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} pushes his cock inside my {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} slowly inserts his cock in my {WTANAL} {ASS}." ], "2nd Person" : [ "{ACTIVE} slides his cock into your {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} pushes his cock inside your {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} slowly inserts his cock in your {WTANAL} {ASS}." ], "3rd Person" : [ "{ACTIVE} slides his cock into {PRIMARY}'s {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} pushes his cock inside {PRIMARY}'s {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} slowly inserts his cock in {PRIMARY}'s {WTANAL} {ASS}." ]}
Guest Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Log file below, contains both MMF & FF messages failing to appear, as asked for. There are also a couple of MFF animations going off because I forgot to filter them. Maybe you attached the wrong apropos log file. I don't see any errors in this. You asked for logs with trace enabled earlier. This is for MMF scenes, no messages appear. FF is the same. I checked both .txt files, both valid JSON files.
gooser Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 Log file below, contains both MMF & FF messages failing to appear, as asked for. There are also a couple of MFF animations going off because I forgot to filter them. Maybe you attached the wrong apropos log file. I don't see any errors in this. You asked for logs with trace enabled earlier. This is for MMF scenes, no messages appear. FF is the same. I checked both .txt files, both valid JSON files. I'm sorry, it just didn't look like trace was enabled... usually it spews out tons more info - specific lines that I have added just for that level of verbosity. It should have put in call-level level stuff. Do you also have debug enabled?
gooser Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 Yeah i'm using the latest version though i did uninstall previous version and then install it, i've clicked refresh synmons quite a few times. I've not made any changes to the mod/mod related stuff myself though - where abouts do i need to add in the tags? Looking in FemaleActor_Male_Anal file in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\Apropos\db\FemaleActor_Male the file says... { "1st Person" : [ "{ACTIVE} slides his cock into my {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} pushes his cock inside my {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} slowly inserts his cock in my {WTANAL} {ASS}." ], "2nd Person" : [ "{ACTIVE} slides his cock into your {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} pushes his cock inside your {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} slowly inserts his cock in your {WTANAL} {ASS}." ], "3rd Person" : [ "{ACTIVE} slides his cock into {PRIMARY}'s {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} pushes his cock inside {PRIMARY}'s {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} slowly inserts his cock in {PRIMARY}'s {WTANAL} {ASS}." ] } What did you upgrade from? It looks like symptoms of the save game holding on to old versions of the token string names. I would try a clean save approach, described on the OP under "Update Instructions". Just unistall the current version, do the clean save stuff, then reinstall the same version.
chajapa Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 gooser, REGRESSION? Male PC deflowers a virgin and HE gets the {CUM} in his {PUSSY} for the first time. I know you've fixed this in the past. ALSO ... MALE PC banging female follower. Her STATS are incrementing, but the WTVAGINAL/WTANAL/WTORAL are still returning "virgin". The "for the first time" message doesn't play again, and the stats show she's incrementing in those "disciplines". Just a token thing. This also happens with male PC banging NPC for the 1st (and 2nd and 3rd) time. 1st time is expected. After that W&T should obviously no longer be calling her a virgin. This is with NO time for degrade and like I said, her STATS are appearing correctly. I haven't run this test against a female PC yet. Chajapa, I have an update that applies to Male PC players only. It affects everything in the MaleActor_Female folder in the db. Basically the {PRIMARY} and {ACTIVE} tags need to be swapped in all instances. This needs to be done to accompany the code changes I've made in the mod. With Notepad++ you can open multiple files and do renames across files (using the Replace All in All Opened Files button) So you could swap the tags with three steps: CTRL-H, rename ACTIVE -> TOPRIMARY rename PRIMARY -> ACTIVE TOPRIMARY -> PRIMARY I've attached a mod update to test, to verify everything before you bother with the edits. You can just backup your current db folder (or rename it something like "db.save") before installing this version of the mod. I just backed up my MaleActor_Female folder and then did the edits on mine. Notepad++ , Find in Files, give it the path and it will do a directory of files without having to open them. And there's a checkbox to do it in subfolders as well I'm learning. I'll try to test this tonight, but I have a couple of RL things that might force me to put it off until morning.
gooser Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Chajapa, Just to be clear, the attached mod update already has the tags swapped. I just provided instructions for you since I know you are into editing your own files. So you could just back up your own day-to-day db folder, update the mod (letting it install the "standard" version of those .txt files), and test with a male PC. If all is good, I will commit the changes into the next official release. And you can then begin retrofitting that one folder of your own db.
chajapa Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 OK... with that update you gave me and the edited maleactor_female files. I just ran through a vaginal sex scenario twice, but it looks like everything is working. Male PC deflowered virgin Properly identified who had cum in their pussy for the first time (and it wasn't HIM!) Second run-through she (his female follower/sex kitten) was properly identified as NOT being a virgin any more. By George I think you've done it! And of course I read your admonishment about using the included files AFTER I had edited mine and run the tests with them. I think the log (with trace on) will show everything working properly chajapa_maleactor_female-log.zip
chajapa Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Let me know if you want me to run this again with your "stock" DB files. I understand why you'd want something more "controlled". I just looked and thought... ahhh... tag swap... I can do that...
pinky6225 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Yeah i'm using the latest version though i did uninstall previous version and then install it, i've clicked refresh synmons quite a few times. I've not made any changes to the mod/mod related stuff myself though - where abouts do i need to add in the tags? Looking in FemaleActor_Male_Anal file in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\Apropos\db\FemaleActor_Male the file says... { "1st Person" : [ "{ACTIVE} slides his cock into my {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} pushes his cock inside my {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} slowly inserts his cock in my {WTANAL} {ASS}." ], "2nd Person" : [ "{ACTIVE} slides his cock into your {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} pushes his cock inside your {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} slowly inserts his cock in your {WTANAL} {ASS}." ], "3rd Person" : [ "{ACTIVE} slides his cock into {PRIMARY}'s {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} pushes his cock inside {PRIMARY}'s {WTANAL} {ASS}.", "{ACTIVE} slowly inserts his cock in {PRIMARY}'s {WTANAL} {ASS}." ] } What did you upgrade from? It looks like symptoms of the save game holding on to old versions of the token string names. I would try a clean save approach, described on the OP under "Update Instructions". Just unistall the current version, do the clean save stuff, then reinstall the same version. Tried the above and its now working tested with a couple of male NPC's
gooser Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Here's the stage list for humans - Vaginal Missionary - 3 Arrak Missionary - 3 Doggy Style - 3 Sideways Fuck - 3 Arrok Sideways Fuck - 3 Hugging Fuck - 3 Standing Fuck - 3 Arrok HugFuck - 3 Arrok Standing Fuck - 3 Zyn Missionary - 4 Zyn DoggyStyle - 4 AP Shoulder - 4 AP Standing - 4 AP Bed Missionary - 5 Arrok Cowgirl - 5 AP Cowgirl - 5 Vaginal Rape Rough Missionary - 3 Zyn Rough Standing - 3 (stage 1 is F>M Oral) Arrok Leg Up Fuck - 4 AP Leg Up Fuck - 4 Anal Arrok Anal - 3 (stage 1 is M>F rimming) Arrok DoggyStyle - 3 Reverse Cowgirl - 3 Arrok Reverse Cowgirl - 3 AP DoggyStyle - 4 Anal Rape Rough Behind - 3 Rough DoggyStyle - 3 Arrok Rape - 3 AP Anal - 4 AP Face Down Anal - 4 AP Holding Leg Up - 4 Oral Arrok Blowjob - 3 Arrok 69 - 4 (stage 1 and orgasm are cunnilingus only, no felatio) AP Blowjob - 4 AP Kneeling Blowjob - 4 AP Standing Blowjob - 4 Oral Rape AP Skull Fuck - 4 Boobjob Boobjob - 3 Arrok Boobjob - 3 AP Boobjob - 4 (stage 4 also has masturbation) Misc AP Handjob - 4 Arrok Foreplay - 3 Arrok Sitting Foreplay - 3 Arrok Standing Foreplay - 3 Bleagh Footjob - 4 Bleaugh Female Masturbation - 4 AP Female Masturbation - 4 Arrok Male Masturbation - 3 Tribadism - 2 (vaginal tags) Arrok Lesbian - 3 (oral/vaginal tags) Zyn Lesbian - 3 (oral/vaginal tags) AP Fisting - 4 Arrok Devils Threeway - 3 (MMF) Arrok Tricycle - 3 (MFF) Zyn Double Penetration - 3 (MMF) Zyn Femdom - 3 (MFF) Zaz Pillory Bound - 5 (vaginal) Pillory Bound (alt) - 3 (M>F oral) Pillory Sex - 6 (vaginal) Pillory Sex (alt) - 6 (vaginal) Pillory Torment - 4 (M>F oral) Pillory Torment (alt) - 4 (spanking on first 3 stages, stage 4 is vaginal with broom) Doggy style (bound) - 3 (anal) Doggy style (two bound) - 4 (anal) Blowjob (bound) - 5 Lesbian (bound) - 4 Lesbian (two bound) - 4 Handjob, Footjob, Masturbation, Fisting & Foreplay tags should be pretty simple to implement, this would allow the relevant animations. The Lesbian animations seem to be loaded with everything, not sure what they'd trigger as. Can't tell though, since not a single FF animation I tried triggered a message. I ensured that the FF txt files were valid, but nothing. Zaz's animations all trigger as the relevant animations and work fine if enabled. In the case of animations with M>F oral, they simply have the Oral tag and will therefore assume the female is the giver. EDIT: Additional note; W&T increase messages work fine, but W&T decrease messages don't appear to use the txt files, instead giving a generic 'PC W&T decrease' message. EDIT 2: Does the arousal.txt file do anything, or is it just for our reference? And what dictates {READINESS} level? Hmmm. I regularly see the wt decrease messages from .txt files. I wonder what's up. Arousal.txt was a file i created for my benefit for mod development. Ignore it. FAROUSAL and READINESS are dictated both by the primary female actor's arousal currently. I realize that it is possible folks are applying READINESS as an adjective a primary male partner/creature, so it might be safe to say right now it should be used to modify the female actor's readiness, and not the males. Is that reasonable? otherwise we will need to readiness tag, OR have it dictated by the "average" arousal.
gooser Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Btw, Decauk, I'm going to add logic so the wt increase/decrease messages at least will not show during combat, or if the player is searching ("red dots") for enemies. I think there was another suggestion along these lines, but I can't find it nor remember it.
gooser Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Also, the stage file naming format: FemaleActor_Draugr_Vaginal_Stage5.txt FemaleActor_Draugr_Vaginal_Rape_Stage5.txt etc. FemaleActor_Draugr_GangBang_Stage2.txt FemaleActor_Draugr_GangBang_Rape_Stage2.txt etc. FemaleActor_Male_Anal_Rape_Stage4.txt FemaleActor_Male_Anal_Stage4.txt etc.
woody1213 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 If I wanted to change an animations tag from vaginal to anal or vice versa, which file would I need to change besides sslCreatureAnimationDefaults would I need to change for it to reference the correct txt file in the db folder? I've already changed the tags in sslCreatureAnimationDefaults, rebuilt the animation registry, and refreshed Apropos, but it is still showing Vaginal versus Anal. Obviously, I'm missing something
Guest Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Log file below, contains both MMF & FF messages failing to appear, as asked for. There are also a couple of MFF animations going off because I forgot to filter them. Maybe you attached the wrong apropos log file. I don't see any errors in this. You asked for logs with trace enabled earlier. This is for MMF scenes, no messages appear. FF is the same. I checked both .txt files, both valid JSON files. I'm sorry, it just didn't look like trace was enabled... usually it spews out tons more info - specific lines that I have added just for that level of verbosity. It should have put in call-level level stuff. Do you also have debug enabled? Yeah, everything is turned on. I imagine something about the mod isn't working correctly for these two new messages, unless someone else has had them working? I tried the naming schemes you posted for rape stages, still just plays consensual. Or have I misunderstood, and this is just the planned naming scheme? I included a screenshot, this is what I get instead of W&T decrease messages. Increase ones work fine. Since this is working for you, I assume I've done something wrong. Maybe I'll just reinstall Apropos.
gooser Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Decauk, That is a debug-only message. It is just there to let me know that the algorithm for decreasing the W&T is running. Not always will a decrease in the W&T "raw value" equate to a decrease in the state/index. So an actor might at any time have, for instance: vaginal W&T value: 1500 state: 9 The state values are what is used to look up the display text (0-9) The computation is run, by default, every 12 in-game hours. When it runs, it keeps track of how long the actor has gone without that body part being bothered. If they continue to have sex in that body part, it resets the algorithm. Anything over 799 in the raw value equates to a state of 9 (battered). So if an actor has a value of 2000, it will take some time before it even decreases to a point where it will reach only 8 (under 800). Basically with each run, I keep track of the number of undisturbed "passes", so as time passes each 12 hour time period can degrade the W&T faster based upon the degrade factor. A degrade factor of 1.0 would yield a linear degrade over time, higher than 1.0 (i.e. 1.2) would yield a non-linear, but exponential degrade. So the longer you wait without molesting your "parts", the faster they recover. Hope that helps. I think I will move that message you screenshotted to the Skyrim console (~).
gooser Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 If I wanted to change an animations tag from vaginal to anal or vice versa, which file would I need to change besides sslCreatureAnimationDefaults would I need to change for it to reference the correct txt file in the db folder? I've already changed the tags in sslCreatureAnimationDefaults, rebuilt the animation registry, and refreshed Apropos, but it is still showing Vaginal versus Anal. Obviously, I'm missing something Look at AproposAnimationPatchups.psc It's there specifically so you don't have to touch the SexLab scripts.
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