Apropos

[gooser]

FYI. B3lisario discovered a intra-Skse bug between Jcontainers and PapyrusUtil that is causing SOS to lose stuff and has reported to Jcontainers plugin author. Fun fun

[siron13]

hi i have all the requirements when the game starts and i go to the mod configuratio nemu the mod is there i click on it and brings only the picture nothing else and also can't find thel log file can you help?

[chajapa]

log file should be where your Skyrim logs are. On Win7 that's in Documents/mygames/skyrim..... and then look for a folder called User

[chajapa]

gooser,

 

REGRESSION?

Male PC deflowers a virgin and HE gets the {CUM} in his {PUSSY} for the first time.

 

 

I know you've fixed this in the past.

 

ALSO ... MALE PC banging female follower. Her STATS are incrementing, but the WTVAGINAL/WTANAL/WTORAL are still returning "virgin". The "for the first time" message doesn't play again, and the stats show she's incrementing in those "disciplines". Just a token thing. This also happens with male PC banging NPC for the 1st (and 2nd and 3rd) time. 1st time is expected. After that W&T should obviously no longer be calling her a virgin. This is with NO time for degrade and like I said, her STATS are appearing correctly.

 

I haven't run this test against a female PC yet.

 

 

[aloevera5]

FYI. B3lisario discovered a intra-Skse bug between Jcontainers and PapyrusUtil that is causing SOS to lose stuff and has reported to Jcontainers plugin author. Fun fun

 

Thanks for the update.  I am glad to see I am not losing my mind.  All these WIP's, beta's and alphas all over are bound to have issues

[SecretzRUs]

hi i have all the requirements when the game starts and i go to the mod configuratio nemu the mod is there i click on it and brings only the picture nothing else and also can't find thel log file can you help?

 

I have this same problem as well...anyone know what's going on?

[chajapa]

 

hi i have all the requirements when the game starts and i go to the mod configuratio nemu the mod is there i click on it and brings only the picture nothing else and also can't find thel log file can you help?

 

I have this same problem as well...anyone know what's going on?

 

 

Try going into console and typing:

setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

 

Then WAIT while MCM re-registers the mod interfaces.

 

To the best of my knowledge (and I've used this command several times for several reasons) running that command won't HURT anything, but it seems to straighten out some conditions like.... having 2 SexLab entries in MCM (only one of which works) and other oddities.

[RDKateran]

 

hi i have all the requirements when the game starts and i go to the mod configuratio nemu the mod is there i click on it and brings only the picture nothing else and also can't find thel log file can you help?

 

I have this same problem as well...anyone know what's going on?

 

 

When I had this problem it turns out I was using the wrong version of SKSE.  Might want to double-check that you've got the alpha build and not the stable build.

[Quisling]

 

FYI. B3lisario discovered a intra-Skse bug between Jcontainers and PapyrusUtil that is causing SOS to lose stuff and has reported to Jcontainers plugin author. Fun fun

 

Thanks for the update.  I am glad to see I am not losing my mind.  All these WIP's, beta's and alphas all over are bound to have issues

 

 

So, to get past the disappearing schlongs...

 

install JContainers-0.66-to-0.67.1-TRANSITION.

Load latest save.

Save again.

Replace JContainers-0.66-to-0.67.1-TRANSITION with JContainers-0.67.1.

Load latest save.

 

Haven't checked how RPT copes with the new JContainers though, as I'm trying to keep an eye on the football.

 

[Earen]

Not 100% positive, but Earendil switched internally to a different Json parser in the last version of JContainers, which I know was causing another mod author some grief. 

 

Earendil, do you see this? I can get this file to validate against jsonlint.com, and also the JSTool plugin in Notepad++.

 

Chajapa,

 

you might try changing line #36

 

From

"{PRIMARY}’s {PADJ} {PUSSY} is full of {COCK}.",

To

"{PRIMARY}'s {PADJ} {PUSSY} is full of {COCK}.",

Notice the difference in the apostrophe character.

unsure if this makes sense now as issue seems to be fixed, just dropped note -  i'm uploaded json validator for batch file validation

[silentdark]

It's a very nice mod.

I've translated it to chinese for personal use.

Can I share the translated version to our local bbs?

I request your permission.

[RFLillian]

Can anyone tell me why my game crashes when I go to refresh the synonyms list? According to jsonlint.com the list is valid, so I'm not sure what's going on?

 

According to the crash log, I'm getting a "MannequinActivatorScript" error along with AproposUtil/Config errors. Specifically "[Apropos (E6000D62)]" I wish I could paste the log in here but for some reason I can't copy and paste anything. It's probably something really stupid, but I don't know (both the apropos thing and the copy-paste thing lol).

 

 

Edit:

 

Not sure if this is why it was doing it, but removing a synonym bit with long winded explanations and also changing the "title" of another lets me update the list again. Not sure which did it. The one I tweaked was under "submit", I noticed that word under one of the script files so that might be it.

[aloevera5]

 

 

FYI. B3lisario discovered a intra-Skse bug between Jcontainers and PapyrusUtil that is causing SOS to lose stuff and has reported to Jcontainers plugin author. Fun fun

 

Thanks for the update.  I am glad to see I am not losing my mind.  All these WIP's, beta's and alphas all over are bound to have issues

 

 

So, to get past the disappearing schlongs...

 

install JContainers-0.66-to-0.67.1-TRANSITION.

Load latest save.

Save again.

Replace JContainers-0.66-to-0.67.1-TRANSITION with JContainers-0.67.1.

Load latest save.

 

Haven't checked how RPT copes with the new JContainers though, as I'm trying to keep an eye on the football.

 

 

Correct, I  just tried that and it does keep the SoS and any other data in place.  Seems to do the trick.

[Guest]

A few quick questions/clarifications...

 

• {ACTIVE_NAME} & {PRIMARY_NAME} both simply change to {ACTIVE} & {PRIMARY}, right?
• What should the .txt file name structure be for MMF?
• Boobjob Rape seems to have a .txt.bak file in there as well as .txt, should this be kept?
• {WEARTEAR_VAGINAL} and friends now change to {WTVAGINAL}, right?
• Am I right in saying that all acts now function with Stage 2, etc and simply need the .txt files added?
• What is the change .txt file for? Does this kick in with manual animation changes ('o' hotkey in SexLab), with the AI choosing to change animation (Lover's Victim random chance) or both?

EDIT: Just testing some animations, thought I'd post the relevant findings here for anyone who wants them, save them some time.

 

• Wolf, Canine, Falmer solo, Gargoyle, Troll and Werewolf all have anal tags on some animations, so they'll need anal .txt files.
• Despite Draugr sharing its animations with Falmer, the same animation is flagged as vaginal for draugr. Draugrs have no solo anal animations, although there's a .txt file for them.
• There's a .txt file for horses, but no horse anal animation.
• Chaurus' reverse animation is tagged as anal, but the cock is clearly down the partner's throat, with the Chaurus' mouth on the partner's crotch. An anal .txt file should reflect this, although WT messages and experience will show as anal instead of oral.
• Giant's harassment animation is flagged as vaginal, but the giant uses his finger rather than his cock, which means we get some weird situations with ejaculation messages and descriptions of cocks.
• Horse's oral animation is actually just masturbation for the first 3 stages, with the partner fondling the horse's balls at 4 and shaft at 5, but doesn't actually become oral until stage 6, and I'm not sure Apropos supports a stage 6?

I'm currently working on a new db file for the new Apropos, but my first priority will be conversion, to get the old files working with the new tags and whatnot. That's a lot of replacing tags! Once that's done, I'll start creating stuff for the new features and descriptions.

As always, great work gooser.

[chajapa]

Decauk,

Good Morning!

Yes, ACTIVE_NAME is now ACTIVE and PRIMARY_NAME is now PRIMARY

yes, WEARTEAR_whatever is now WTwhatever

 

I've made stage files for femaleactor_male_vaginal as well as anal to test stuff femaleActor_Male_vaginal_Stage1, ...stage2, ...stage3, etc through stage 5

They work and in the MCM you can turn on and off whatever stages you want to see or not see

 

I haven't tried a stage6 yet, but if there's a 6-stage animation, run it, then look in your Apropos log. It should have a message about not being able to find or read whatever-animation-stage6.txt

 

If you leave them all on, and go start an orgy in Whiterun's market square (Random Sex set to every 45 seconds) the notification area becomes VERY chatty and starts to lag behind the action pretty significantly. So in those situations I turn off everything but stage 4 or something. 

[gooser]

It's a very nice mod.

I've translated it to chinese for personal use.

Can I share the translated version to our local bbs?

I request your permission.

 

Thanks for asking. It might be better to wait a little until the database authoring/editing is closer to be finished. RIght now there are at least three-four people working on some creative contributions!

[gooser]

A few quick questions/clarifications...

 

• {ACTIVE_NAME} & {PRIMARY_NAME} both simply change to {ACTIVE} & {PRIMARY}, right?
• What should the .txt file name structure be for MMF?
• Boobjob Rape seems to have a .txt.bak file in there as well as .txt, should this be kept?
• {WEARTEAR_VAGINAL} and friends now change to {WTVAGINAL}, right?
• Am I right in saying that all acts now function with Stage 2, etc and simply need the .txt files added?
• What is the change .txt file for? Does this kick in with manual animation changes ('o' hotkey in SexLab), with the AI choosing to change animation (Lover's Victim random chance) or both?

EDIT: Just testing some animations, thought I'd post the relevant findings here for anyone who wants them, save them some time.

 

• Wolf, Canine, Falmer solo, Gargoyle, Troll and Werewolf all have anal tags on some animations, so they'll need anal .txt files.
• Despite Draugr sharing its animations with Falmer, the same animation is flagged as vaginal for draugr. Draugrs have no solo anal animations, although there's a .txt file for them.
• There's a .txt file for horses, but no horse anal animation.
• Chaurus' reverse animation is tagged as anal, but the cock is clearly down the partner's throat, with the Chaurus' mouth on the partner's crotch. An anal .txt file should reflect this, although WT messages and experience will show as anal instead of oral.
• Giant's harassment animation is flagged as vaginal, but the giant uses his finger rather than his cock, which means we get some weird situations with ejaculation messages and descriptions of cocks.
• Horse's oral animation is actually just masturbation for the first 3 stages, with the partner fondling the horse's balls at 4 and shaft at 5, but doesn't actually become oral until stage 6, and I'm not sure Apropos supports a stage 6?

I'm currently working on a new db file for the new Apropos, but my first priority will be conversion, to get the old files working with the new tags and whatnot. That's a lot of replacing tags! Once that's done, I'll start creating stuff for the new features and descriptions.

As always, great work gooser.

 

Hi Decauk,

String ACTIVE_NAME_TOKEN             = "{ACTIVE}" ; token that represents the name of the active participant
String PRIMARY_NAME_TOKEN            = "{PRIMARY}" ; token that represents the name of the 'primary' participant
String WEARTEAR_ANAL_TOKEN           = "{WTANAL}" ; description of the current anal wear/tear
String WEARTEAR_VAGINAL_TOKEN        = "{WTVAGINAL}"
String WEARTEAR_ORAL_TOKEN           = "{WTORAL}"
String BOOBS_TOKEN                   = "{BOOBS}" ; synonym for boobs
String ASS_TOKEN                     = "{ASS}"
String MOUTH_TOKEN                   = "{MOUTH}"
String PUSSY_TOKEN                   = "{PUSSY}"
String COCK_TOKEN                    = "{COCK}"
String STRAPON_TOKEN		     = "{STRAPON}"
String MALE_CUM_TOKEN                = "{CUM}"
String FEMALE_CUM_TOKEN              = "{PUSSY_JUICE}"
String READINESS_TOKEN               = "{READINESS}"
String FEMALE_AROUSAL_TOKEN          = "{FAROUSAL}"
String MALE_AROUSAL_TOKEN            = "{MAROUSAL}"

MMF should be in the place of Vaginal, Anal, etc.

 

FemaleActor_Male_MMF.txt

FemaleActor_Male_MMF_Orgasm.txt

FemaleActor_Male_MMF_Rape.txt

FemaleActor_Male_MMF_Rape_Orgasm.txt

FemaleActor_Male_MMF_Stage1.txt

FemaleActor_Male_MMF_Stage2.txt

FemaleActor_Male_MMF_Stage3.txt

FemaleActor_Male_MMF_Stage4.txt

FemaleActor_Male_MMF_Stage5.txt

 

The .bak can be deleted. Vestigial packing artifact.

 

*Change*.txt is an idea I'm toying with, specifically a file for Animation Change events.

 

Current Animation Change events are not displaying anything.

 

Wolf, Canine, and Werewolf should already be in place thanks to Susanoo07. Haven't looked too deeply into their contents.

 

HorseDoggystyle has the anal tag.

 

HorseGroping has 7 stages - I will expand Apropos.

 

It's possible for us to add tags in Apropos that we think are appropriate, and then provide description for those scenarios.

 

For instance these are the current modifications made through SexLab's API:

    RemoveTags("FalmerHolding",         Strings("Gangbang"))
    AddTags("FalmerHolding",            Strings("Falmer"))
    RemoveTags("FalmerMissionary",      Strings("Gangbang"))
    AddTags("FalmerMissionary",         Strings("Falmer"))

[gooser]

gooser,

 

REGRESSION?

Male PC deflowers a virgin and HE gets the {CUM} in his {PUSSY} for the first time.

 

 

I know you've fixed this in the past.

 

ALSO ... MALE PC banging female follower. Her STATS are incrementing, but the WTVAGINAL/WTANAL/WTORAL are still returning "virgin". The "for the first time" message doesn't play again, and the stats show she's incrementing in those "disciplines". Just a token thing. This also happens with male PC banging NPC for the 1st (and 2nd and 3rd) time. 1st time is expected. After that W&T should obviously no longer be calling her a virgin. This is with NO time for degrade and like I said, her STATS are appearing correctly.

 

I haven't run this test against a female PC yet.

 

Can you turn on trace and provide a log file? thanks.

[gooser]

gooser,

 

REGRESSION?

Male PC deflowers a virgin and HE gets the {CUM} in his {PUSSY} for the first time.

 

 

I know you've fixed this in the past.

 

ALSO ... MALE PC banging female follower. Her STATS are incrementing, but the WTVAGINAL/WTANAL/WTORAL are still returning "virgin". The "for the first time" message doesn't play again, and the stats show she's incrementing in those "disciplines". Just a token thing. This also happens with male PC banging NPC for the 1st (and 2nd and 3rd) time. 1st time is expected. After that W&T should obviously no longer be calling her a virgin. This is with NO time for degrade and like I said, her STATS are appearing correctly.

 

I haven't run this test against a female PC yet.

 

The "standard" (whatever that means) file:

{
    "1st Person" :
    [
        "I cum inside {ACTIVE}'s {PUSSY}.",
        "My hot {CUM} fills {ACTIVE}'s {PUSSY}.",
        "I blow a thick load into {ACTIVE}'s {PUSSY}."
    ],
    "2nd Person" :
    [
        "You cum inside {ACTIVE}'s {PUSSY}.",
        "Your hot {CUM} fills {ACTIVE}'s {PUSSY}.",
        "You blow a thick load into {ACTIVE}'s {PUSSY}."
    ],
    "3rd Person" :
    [
        "{PRIMARY} cums inside {ACTIVE}'s {PUSSY}.",
        "{PRIMARY}'s hot {CUM} fills {ACTIVE}'s {PUSSY}.",
        "{PRIMARY} blows a thick load into {ACTIVE}'s {PUSSY}."
    ]
}

Can you post yours if you have modified it?

[Guest]

Horse Doggystyle? Is that animation in stock SexLab? I checked both horse animations, both show in console with Vaginal tags, am I missing an animation?

[gooser]

Horse Doggystyle? Is that animation in stock SexLab? I checked both horse animations, both show in console with Vaginal tags, am I missing an animation?

 

Yes. Stock SexLab 1.57. What version are you using? Do you have some other mods that are adding animations? I know some mods have shown up on LL lately that add animations to the stock SexLab ones.

 

There are two animations for horses added in 1.57

	RegisterAnimation("HorseDoggystyle")
	RegisterAnimation("HorseGroping")

function HorseDoggystyle(int id)
	sslBaseAnimation Base = Create(id)

	Base.Name = "(Horse) Doggystyle"

	Base.SoundFX = Squishing
	Base.SetRaceIDs(Horses)

	int a1 = Base.AddPosition(Female, addCum=Anal)
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Doggystyle_A1_S1")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Doggystyle_A1_S2")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Doggystyle_A1_S3")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Doggystyle_A1_S4")

	int a2 = Base.AddPosition(Creature)
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Doggystyle_A2_S1", 45.0, rotate=180.0)
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Doggystyle_A2_S2", 45.0, rotate=180.0)
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Doggystyle_A2_S3", 45.0, rotate=180.0)
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Doggystyle_A2_S4", 45.0, rotate=180.0)

	Base.AddTag("Gone")
	Base.AddTag("Creature")
	Base.AddTag("Bestiality")
	Base.AddTag("Dirty")
	Base.AddTag("Doggystyle")
	Base.AddTag("Horse")
	Base.AddTag("Anal")

	Base.Save(id)
endFunction

function HorseGroping(int id)
	sslBaseAnimation Base = Create(id)

	Base.Name = "(Horse) Groping"

	Base.SoundFX = None
	Base.SetRaceIDs(Horses)

	int a1 = Base.AddPosition(Female, addCum=Oral)
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Groping_A1_S1")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Groping_A1_S2")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Groping_A1_S3")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Groping_A1_S4")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Groping_A1_S5")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Groping_A1_S6")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a1, "Horse_Groping_A1_S7")

	int a2 = Base.AddPosition(Creature)
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Groping_A2_S1")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Groping_A2_S2")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Groping_A2_S3")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Groping_A2_S4")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Groping_A2_S5")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Groping_A2_S6")
	Base.AddPositionStage(a2, "Horse_Groping_A2_S7")

	Base.AddTag("Panicforever")
	Base.AddTag("Creature")
	Base.AddTag("Bestiality")
	Base.AddTag("Groping")
	Base.AddTag("Fondling")
	Base.AddTag("Horse")
	Base.AddTag("Oral")

	Base.Save(id)
endFunction

All from sslCreatureAnimationDefaults.psc.

[Guest]

Yep, you're right. I was assuming the default horse animation was vaginal, which it isn't. This means there's not actually a vaginal horse animation...

I might just use the horse anal files as vaginal, doesn't make sense not to have it.

 

On another issue, I can't seem to get the MFF messages to work. File is named exactly as you listed, just tried opening message with a simple 'MFF test' as the actual message, file checks out as a valid JSON file, but nothing. Any ideas?

 

EDIT: Some more tests, and it seems that the stage messages don't distinguish between consensual and rape. This means any messages used need to fit both scenarios.

 

Also, managed to confirm that the dragon's 2nd animation is indeed flagged as oral and works fine with Apropos.

 

I also can't seem to work out a simple way to use Notepad++ to verify if a file is valid or not. Am I missing something simple? I'm sure it must be more straightforward than I'm making it. I've decided to get round to installing it simply due to the sheer volume of text files now being used (which is still a good thing!).

[Earen]

 

On another issue, I can't seem to get the MFF messages to work. File is named exactly as you listed, just tried opening message with a simple 'MFF test' as the actual message, file checks out as a valid JSON file, but nothing. Any ideas?

 

validating json file with executable i uploaded recently may help

[silentdark]

 

It's a very nice mod.

I've translated it to chinese for personal use.

Can I share the translated version to our local bbs?

I request your permission.

 

Thanks for asking. It might be better to wait a little until the database authoring/editing is closer to be finished. RIght now there are at least three-four people working on some creative contributions!

 

 

Thanks a lot.  Keep up the good work you're doing and I'll wait for the stable release.

[gooser]

Yep, you're right. I was assuming the default horse animation was vaginal, which it isn't. This means there's not actually a vaginal horse animation...

I might just use the horse anal files as vaginal, doesn't make sense not to have it.

 

On another issue, I can't seem to get the MFF messages to work. File is named exactly as you listed, just tried opening message with a simple 'MFF test' as the actual message, file checks out as a valid JSON file, but nothing. Any ideas?

 

EDIT: Some more tests, and it seems that the stage messages don't distinguish between consensual and rape. This means any messages used need to fit both scenarios.

 

Also, managed to confirm that the dragon's 2nd animation is indeed flagged as oral and works fine with Apropos.

 

I also can't seem to work out a simple way to use Notepad++ to verify if a file is valid or not. Am I missing something simple? I'm sure it must be more straightforward than I'm making it. I've decided to get round to installing it simply due to the sheer volume of text files now being used (which is still a good thing!).

 

I use the plugin JSTool which is free - it has Json viewer and Json formatter menus. However, I have found that not all Json validation is equivalent. I have had some validate in JSTool/Notepad++ and fail in jsonlint.com and vice versa. Perhaps the best option is to use the json formatter tool Earendil just uploaded. I don't know how it works yet.

 

I didn't know how far to take stage messages. So yes, they do not distinguish between consensual and rape. I figured that the player would see some kind of rapey message for the initial animation message, and the stage wouldn't have to make such additional statements. But that can change...

 

I'll look into MMF.