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in theory if they can work the 3D model Vagina, you can do it on the mouth, or at least a part of it, I think it is possbile

 

 

to me.. it would be enough just to have a little distortion on the cheeks and a little Throat Bulge

 

On second thought, doing throught bulge would be incredibly difficult.

 

You'd need to animate the penis so it actually points and goes down along the throat cavity for something like that gif to happen.

 

 

And I don't think to date someone has figured out how to animate SOS penis seperately -_-...

Though who knows it may be possible. but you would still need required animations (and that's all if someone can figure out the RB structure and constraints for opening closing stuff)

 

 

That is possible, someone even made anims with it recently. Only problem is that SOS uses animations to scale and control the schlong, so any "generic" animation would resize the schlong, not to mention probably bending it any which way...

I've thought about doing something similar for the vag mod, but that would require a shitton of additional scripting (not so many animations, surprisingly, i think SOS has about 5 per shape). And SOS alone is already a borderline performance killer...

 

 

Who might be able to accomplish this ? :)

 

 

 

then its better to just animate the bodies more i guess? see like this when you are making llooove

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFEZrE9Mp_k

 

get those kind of physics, looks like its only hdt cbbe

There is also HDT 7Base Bombshell BETAv4, is UNP body, yuo found here  http://www.loverslab.com/files/download/658-hdt-body/  ^_^

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That is possible, someone even made anims with it recently. Only problem is that SOS uses animations to scale and control the schlong, so any "generic" animation would resize the schlong, not to mention probably bending it any which way...

I've thought about doing something similar for the vag mod, but that would require a shitton of additional scripting (not so many animations, surprisingly, i think SOS has about 5 per shape). And SOS alone is already a borderline performance killer...

 

Wouls it be possible for sos to work any other way?

 

i think a mix of bone scaling and HDT could do it. hdt for length bone scaling for thickness. 

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You'd need to animate the penis so it actually points and goes down along the throat cavity for something like that gif to happen.

 

And I don't think to date someone has figured out how to animate SOS penis seperately -_-...

 

 

Or allow penis to collide with throat canal=(obj/ hdt.coll coding)

if size (girth/length) = X / X then [fill in the line durp] (cheek animation)

if throat threshold = X/X then bulge.true (throat anim)

 

Anyways as the original topic thread, yes I've been thinking about collision for private parts but I'm not a dev or some 3dsmax God. Although I learn on my freetime(which is spent on looking at pretty girls) I do simple java coding for plugins. Would be great if engi god & dev god would see the thread. [Note: using God as a metaphor, because I regard those with incredible skill (especially those amazing 3d demonstration with the collision examples) godly] 

 

Oh and first time posting, been lurking but felt like maybe this might give an idea of a different path for the coding and design. 

 

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Reason- looked at it again, schlong / genitalia mesh would be coming out of it.. Actually can't come up with a solution.

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You'd need to animate the penis so it actually points and goes down along the throat cavity for something like that gif to happen.

 

And I don't think to date someone has figured out how to animate SOS penis seperately -_-...

 

 

Or allow penis to collide with throat canal=(obj/ hdt.coll coding)

if size (girth/length) = X / X then [fill in the line durp] (cheek animation)

if throat threshold = X/X then bulge.true (throat anim)

 

Anyways as the original topic thread, yes I've been thinking about collision for private parts but I'm not a dev or some 3dsmax God. Although I learn on my freetime(which is spent on looking at pretty girls) I do simple java coding for plugins. Would be great if engi god & dev god would see the thread. [Note: using God as a metaphor, because I regard those with incredible skill (especially those amazing 3d demonstration with the collision examples) godly] 

 

Oh and first time posting, been lurking but felt like maybe this might give an idea of a different path for the coding and design. 

 

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Reason- looked at it again, schlong / genitalia mesh would be coming out of it.. Actually can't come up with a solution.

 

 

Just means we'd go balls deep!

 

But yea, gonna keep following this until the based coder gods figure it out.

 

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let's hope either SOS is replaced with a more functional base OR another better penis system is made... possibly with native HDT elements... i can dream....

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let's hope either SOS is replaced with a more functional base OR another better penis system is made... possibly with native HDT elements... i can dream....

We must ask this to Bellisario, or VectorPlexus, it was he who did the original Schlong penis, found here http://www.ladymoiraine.com/forum/index.php?topic=7497.0

 

for make a new native HDT SOS, a special version optimized for doing what everyone expects me to do, for a long time.. the most awaited sex-mod ever of all-time! ;)

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Why not simply change the body texture from a "closed" to an "open" version and not bother with bones and physics at all?

 

Because it'd look like crap, as do most "texture vaginas" which often look like they were simply painted onto the mesh.

 

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Sliding constraints are unsupported right now-I never actually tried to use them on anything until the first test on here. I tried something like that, but the sliding constraints put the bones off in no mans land-wherever the origin point is in the game engine I think.

no other solution..?  :(

 

 

this will never become reality ?

 

 

 

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OMG.... never really saw this before. That looks freaking amazing and enticing...

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Not sure if anyone has covered this yet.

My somewhat stupid self thinks it has come up with a way to show "animated"/"penetrate-able" vagina's / anuses. using Havoc collision physics....

 

if anyone could point me to where this is/was spoken about I would seriously appreciate it.

 

If not/it has not yet bee spoken of, I will empty my mess of a brain onto the keyboard In  an attempt to describe what I'm thinking of right now...

 

(sorry If this confuses anyone, my brain in all knotted right now...)

 

This would allow animators to redo the animations so the SL "Even Actor Height" would be a thing of the past. It would take scripts, I think, to align the collision layers properly, as in they would have to search for the layers. Ooo, that sounds difficult, not impossible.

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Guest kimbale
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Fiddling with it, may need more bones.

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Have been this actually done? o.o

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1118-un7b-a-new-body-replacer-made-by-alan-from-ank/

 

Experiences, anyone?

We just need it to be rigged with HDT_PE. Now that the exterior has been done, a placeholder for the interior can be made easily. Oh boy, our dreams are getting close guys.

 

 

If you can not remove the UNP vagina ftom the body meshe, is half a rip-off..! :-/

 

we will be forced to use only those that hybrid  Alan body and rhat textures.. tortoise on his belly worthy of Schwarzenegger :(

 

deny the possibility of being able to choose which body type have the vagina, impose a single body type and single type of textures, do not see it as something very democratic..?

 

then if she wanted her Sevenbase breast, and the body more skinny and sslender, these features were already present on UNP TM body, which offers a slimmer HQ body and breasts that range from UNP Skinny to UNP 7base

 

when Alan developed in the vagina could predict the Possibility of making a UNP vagina be equipped, I at least can be integrated within other bodys type, as was the original plan of Aegis realisti vagina, which among other things, worked with all the bodies UNP, without altering the mesh of the body, it textures and maps mirror, remained the same as when it was worn, while the vagina CBBEda this point of view was the opposite, did not support TBBP and gave textures and specular maps standard, i do not know if the final version is an CBBE has still these annoying limitations.

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Have been this actually done? o.o

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1118-un7b-a-new-body-replacer-made-by-alan-from-ank/

 

Experiences, anyone?

We just need it to be rigged with HDT_PE. Now that the exterior has been done, a placeholder for the interior can be made easily. Oh boy, our dreams are getting close guys.

 

 

If you can not remove the UNP vagina ftom the body meshe, is half a rip-off..! :-/

 

we will be forced to use only those that hybrid  Alan body and rhat textures.. tortoise on his belly worthy of Schwarzenegger :(

deny the possibility of being able to choose which body type have the vagina, impose a single body type and single type of textures, do not see it as something very democratic..?

 

then if she wanted her Sevenbase breast, and the body more skinny and sslender, these features were already present on UNP TM body, which offers a slimmer HQ body and breasts that range from UNP Skinny to UNP 7base

 

when Alan developed in the vagina could predict the Possibility of making a UNP vagina be equipped, I at least can be integrated within other bodys type, as was the original plan of Aegis realisti vagina, which among other things, worked with all the bodies UNP, without altering the mesh of the body, it textures and maps mirror, remained the same as when it was worn, while the vagina CBBEda this point of view was the opposite, did not support TBBP and gave textures and specular maps standard, i do not know if the final version is an CBBE has still these annoying limitations.

 

 

You can think that way, but I think not. Simple because this guy ain't talking only. There you go, it could be in its Alpha phase, but you have to acknowledge that its actually here, not in some discussion, not in some fancy images. I've been hearing this bull about a "realistic vagina that reacts with collision!" since more than half-a-year ago, and for god sakes, this thread is nearly 4 months old. Imagine how long, if Alan, an Chinese/Asian modder wouldn't have bothered making this, the English-speaking modding community would take to make this? Seeing from how they usually roll, taking HDT and expanding it, and some examples I can't get from the top of my head, they aren't the type to "create" stuff. They're good at expanding it, due to the amount of users, but they don't create.

 

I use the CBBE body (bodyslide) primarily, and I dislike SevenBase personally, but with this, finally we can take the next step:

 

First step, discuss about the damn vagina

           -"Realistic Vagina" project started by Aegis (cannot be rigged, static) <----- sheit

           - This thread (dead)

Second step, create an Alpha of the damn vagina,

           - UN7B

Third step, test for the damn vagina

Fourth step, expand onto different bodies for the damn vagina

 

The point being, this is progress, not dwindling at step one and seeing no relative progress but extended it to the next month. And if your dissatisfaction is larger than this happy-feeling I'm getting from finally shit being done, then what the heck, you ask for too much.

 

But off course, until we see for ourselves in-game, this hype was just a hype.

 

We shall see the glass half full or half empty ?

 

There is no doubt that the modders Europeans and Americans are a little bit sleeping on this side, but.. the Real problem is that few people really believe they are among the modders, not that they are not intereteed to have a realistic HDT vagina HDT, the point is that nobody has fully understood 100% how to make it open close without resorting to traditional composing animation each frame for 60fps, until now.. let's give him a bit of confidence!

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Would be nice if there was a CBBE Version.  I have always liked 7Base and UNP with Realistic Skin but I got tired of the Neck seams...  So, if anyone knows who or when a CBBE Version is going to be released I would greatly appreciate it.  Feel free to PM me, and thank you...  :(

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You can think that way, but I think not. Simple because this guy ain't talking only. There you go, it could be in its Alpha phase, but you have to acknowledge that its actually here, not in some discussion, not in some fancy images. I've been hearing this bull about a "realistic vagina that reacts with collision!" since more than half-a-year ago, and for god sakes, this thread is nearly 4 months old. Imagine how long, if Alan, an Chinese/Asian modder wouldn't have bothered making this, the English-speaking modding community would take to make this? Seeing from how they usually roll, taking HDT and expanding it, and some examples I can't get from the top of my head, they aren't the type to "create" stuff. They're good at expanding it, due to the amount of users, but they don't create.

 

I use the CBBE body (bodyslide) primarily, and I dislike SevenBase personally, but with this, finally we can take the next step:

 

First step, discuss about the damn vagina

           -"Realistic Vagina" project started by Aegis (cannot be rigged, static) <----- sheit

           - This thread (dead)

Second step, create an Alpha of the damn vagina,

           - UN7B

Third step, test for the damn vagina

Fourth step, expand onto different bodies for the damn vagina

 

The point being, this is progress, not dwindling at step one and seeing no relative progress but extended it to the next month. And if your dissatisfaction is larger than this happy-feeling I'm getting from finally shit being done, then what the heck, you ask for too much.

 

But off course, until we see for ourselves in-game, this hype was just a hype.

I don't understand where al this negativity came from, there's no need for it. seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

 

These people are also working on realistic vagina for CBBE, they said they want to implement HDT penetration too:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/18250-rel-beta-realistic-genitalia-for-cbbe/

Correct, Kimbale has been doing some work on it recently.

 

May I draw your attention to THIS little gem here:

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27122-hdt-collisions-hair-physics-now-with-belly-support-updated-just-another-hdt-xml-file/page-16?do=findComment&comment=821687

 

Just look at the *.gif file posted there, it says it all, Daiemonic has done it again ^_^

...beautiful...

 

EDIT:

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/32094-coming-soon-my-sos-overhaul/

looks like were getting a "Modular SOS Overhaul" which will have HDT compatibility.

Guest kimbale
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You can think that way, but I think not. Simple because this guy ain't talking only. There you go, it could be in its Alpha phase, but you have to acknowledge that its actually here, not in some discussion, not in some fancy images. I've been hearing this bull about a "realistic vagina that reacts with collision!" since more than half-a-year ago, and for god sakes, this thread is nearly 4 months old. Imagine how long, if Alan, an Chinese/Asian modder wouldn't have bothered making this, the English-speaking modding community would take to make this? Seeing from how they usually roll, taking HDT and expanding it, and some examples I can't get from the top of my head, they aren't the type to "create" stuff. They're good at expanding it, due to the amount of users, but they don't create.

 

I use the CBBE body (bodyslide) primarily, and I dislike SevenBase personally, but with this, finally we can take the next step:

 

First step, discuss about the damn vagina

           -"Realistic Vagina" project started by Aegis (cannot be rigged, static) <----- sheit

           - This thread (dead)

Second step, create an Alpha of the damn vagina,

           - UN7B

Third step, test for the damn vagina

Fourth step, expand onto different bodies for the damn vagina

 

The point being, this is progress, not dwindling at step one and seeing no relative progress but extended it to the next month. And if your dissatisfaction is larger than this happy-feeling I'm getting from finally shit being done, then what the heck, you ask for too much.

 

But off course, until we see for ourselves in-game, this hype was just a hype.

I don't understand where al this negativity came from, there's no need for it. seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

 

 

Chill dude, that wasn't even negative. If you read the post properly you can tell that I'm pretty happy with the current progress of creating this "collision" enabled vagina. If you still don't get it, I was being positive. And if that still doesn't get through you, then I'll say it again: I'm happy when I wrote that post.

 

If you hate to see me convince this thick head to see this progress as a step forward instead of copy-pasting that daz3d (hopefully) vagina import in his every post and complain about how the vagina on UN7B looks bad compared to the static screens of private content that will never be released, then you tell him instead. I'm seeing this guy go on and on about some delusional bull and so I decided to wake him up.

 

Anyways, come back when you're not drunk.

 

 

 

 

These people are also working on realistic vagina for CBBE, they said they want to implement HDT penetration too:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/18250-rel-beta-realistic-genitalia-for-cbbe/

 

Nope, just Chuck Testa.

 

I AM working on this. And considering i worked on that CBBE vag mod too, i consider "these people" still working on this. Anyways, i'm looking forward to Phygnos' SOS overhaul too, it would mean modular hdt pussy for everyone (any body type with SOS slot).

 

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Chill dude, that wasn't even negative. If you read the post properly you can tell that I'm pretty happy with the current progress of creating this "collision" enabled vagina. If you still don't get it, I was being positive. And if that still doesn't get through you, then I'll say it again: I'm happy when I wrote that post.

 

If you hate to see me convince this thick head to see this progress as a step forward instead of copy-pasting that daz3d (hopefully) vagina import in his every post and complain about how the vagina on UN7B looks bad compared to the static screens of private content that will never be released, then you tell him instead. I'm seeing this guy go on and on about some delusional bull and so I decided to wake him up.

 

Anyways, come back when you're not drunk.

 

Wow, do you not have a shared of decency?

 

-"Realistic Vagina" project started by Aegis (cannot be rigged, static) <----- sheit

"sheit"

 

- This thread (dead)

This thread is far from dead.

 

"Nope, just Chuck Testa."

Wrong again.

 

Dont insult me.

 

 

 

 

 

I AM working on this. And considering i worked on that CBBE vag mod too, i consider "these people" still working on this. Anyways, i'm looking forward to Phygnos' SOS overhaul too, it would mean modular hdt pussy for everyone (any body type with SOS slot).

Thanks for the update Kimbale.

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