Phygnos Posted May 31, 2014 Posted May 31, 2014 Schlongs of Skyrim: The ReSchlonging [Name not final]First, a short history:This started nearly a year ago when I volunteered to convert SoS for a female trans CBBE body. I knew nothing about 3D modeling or modding in general and overestimated my skill level. Fast forward through many months of questions and excellent help from many people on LL or through non-Skyrim guides and it has morphed into an overhaul for everything. CHANGES/FEATURES Initial Test Release (soon) New multi-mesh setup to allow modular customizations [Mesh is subject to change before test release, needs adjusting on its lowest poly level that will be in-game] Armor, accessories, or even changes to the penis mesh itself can now be done without affecting the other areas. This means someone could make an add-on that only adjusts balls, or a viking penis helmet that replaces the end of the penis while keeping everything else unchanged.The edge loops are unchanged between meshes, leaving everything but the body connector (the pink part) as something shared between all races, genders, species and possibly universes. [i am unsure if an equipped item can assume the skin texture of a randomly-assigned mesh system like SoS. If it can't, textures will unfortunately need to be reproduced and blended]While not made for it with it in mind, it's possible that a vagina mesh could be created to fit into the scrotum edge loop for a hermaphroditic appearance. This is a lower priority of mine, but people can volunteer here if they want to create one themselves. Mesh now extends past the perineum to the minimum distance needed to include an anus containing an actual cavity instead of a simple flat area with a drawn texture. Long-term goal is a simple system to control opening and closing of anus. Currently this is above my limited expertise. I realize it looks like a giant opening, but in reality it's quite small. It needs to be open so I (or other modders) can texture it more easily via projection. What's an overhaul without textures? Instead of relying on ports of penises in other formats like I did for much of this project, I've learned to edit textures and project them directly onto meshes, creating what could be considered "HD" textures assembled from reality. This is an example of an old texture map I created: (I now notice that I screwed up erasing part of an old texture on the left area of the frontal scrotum area) Official Release (Pending Groovtama's progress on his skeleton and the results of testing and feedback) Two New Bones There are now Scrotum Left and Scrotum Right bones connected to the parent GenitalScrotum bone. Why? Because... HDT Physics that still allow erection animation The mesh being split into parts should allow physics to be restricted or altered based on equipment changes. You could have a floppy penis but an "armored" scrotum that doesn't move or vice versa. This is possible because of... Changes to bone system via Groovtama First, a quote by the man himself: "Deleted Havok Lagbone Data will be replaced with HDT Physics also should fix problems in SL; Renamed Lagbones to CME bones for Thickness sliders." The bold part is something everyone should be able to understand. Adjustments to thickness without adjusting the length of the penis or other parts of the mesh. This will allow more penis shapes while keeping the modularity of the system. The rest of the quote is more relevant to potential modders as it concerns animations and other stuff. I can't really understand this stuff myself. Long-Term Goals Adjust the "revealing outfit" system of SoS to be better integrated. This is something likely related to scripts and coding and will either take months for me to figure out or someone else can handle it. Creating new items and equipment made for this system and implementing them into the world This already exists in the form Essence of the Dragon dropping off dragons and so on. It's just loot lists and stuff, it shouldn't be too hard apart from creating the stuff in the first place. New Optional Animations that skew to the silly side of things Legends abound for the lost Wangydongy Tribe and their penis-based martial arts... or something. Summary Better Dicks with Fewer Clicks
Exibitions Posted May 31, 2014 Posted May 31, 2014 Why can't this be a thing already. T^T I want to start my new playthrough naooooo
4onen Posted May 31, 2014 Posted May 31, 2014 Huh. Add vaginas (after you figure out anuses) and you'll have to call it Genitals Of Skyrim or Genitalia Of Skyrim. Amazing work. +1
nutluck Posted May 31, 2014 Posted May 31, 2014 Interesting, though I am curious of any problems using three slots might cause with other mods. Will be keeping on a eye on your project.
beta000 Posted May 31, 2014 Posted May 31, 2014 Keeping an eye on this since it looks like it will solve my issue of not being able to create a long schong without it being too thick.
FauxFurry Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 I'm just providing the obligatory "Keep It Up!" and "Coming Soon. Tee hee!" messages that all such posts must have.
Guest Xxxxxxxx4688 Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Remember toprovide the futa version too! No balls and vag in between anus and the schlong.
AggieBear Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 AWESOME. WISH LIST uncircumcised genital piercing (PA, guiche, frenum, scrotal piercings) hair on scrotum even hairier bodieshair on shoulders and back more hair on stomach hair on buttocks
CuddleBear92 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 looks great so far. i just hope we will be able to remove the scrotum completely at one point. @"Adjustments to thickness without adjusting the length of the penis or other parts of the mesh." this will also mean that we can make them thinner aswell cant wait to see it in action myself. always thought they where too thick when you try to make them long >____< just want them long and thin, is that so bad? XD also cant agree more with uncircumcised versions and no balls Futa aswell >____<
Phygnos Posted June 3, 2014 Author Posted June 3, 2014 I've received a few comments and PMs about the slot system so it's unfortunately going to be down to 2 slots at most. [bandolier and Frostfall were both mentioned] I'll just be more reliant on Groovtama's bone changes. Remember toprovide the futa version too! Don't worry, I am. I'm going to be in talks with those "realistic CBBE genitalia" people. AWESOME. WISH LIST uncircumcised genital piercing (PA, guiche, frenum, scrotal piercings) hair on scrotum even hairier bodieshair on shoulders and back more hair on stomach hair on buttocks (in order) -Unfortunately, any sort of retracting behavior is way above my expertise if Vectorplexus himself can't do it. It's either always "on" or "off". I can make some textures for it, however, but keep that in mind. -Yep -I plan on trying it, but at the moment I don't know how to do 2D hair. I just can't make it look like hair instead of paint. I don't know how people do it. (3D hair is an option, but that's something to do in the future, IF I can make it look right) - The rest: This is something aforementioned Vectorplexus is already doing. However, he hasn't been online in 2 months: http://www.ladymoiraine.com/forum/index.php?topic=7497.0 (NSFW link, naturally) If anyone has been in contact with him please let me know.
aidcampbl Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Looks awesome. I am consistently amazed at the talent and commitment of this modding community.
Phygnos Posted June 8, 2014 Author Posted June 8, 2014 "So what did you do this Saturday?" Oh I spent 4 hours obsessing over the topology of the anus. It's beautiful in form and pure simplicity. I no longer walk among men, but among the gods. This is an old chart but this is still generally the plan for differentiating differences between penises: (It's hard to see,but the "Gnarled" shape is meant to look engorged and imperfect) It's a naming convention similar to what you see in D&D or dungeon crawlers. As you can see there's a lot of fantasy involved, but I will also maintain a more realistic version without extreme veins or penises as thick as arms. The last column for shape should hopefully be done with groovtama's new bone setup instead of the mesh itself, hopefully eliminating the need for multiple mesh types to allow for full armor/accessory compatibility between shapes. There will be other differences between the penises like the glans or scrotum shape, but the item names would just become so long and bloated that they are best left unnamed.
Jarka Ruus Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 "So what did you do this Saturday?" Oh I spent 4 hours obsessing over the topology of the anus. Untitled1.png It's beautiful in form and pure simplicity. I no longer walk among men, but among the gods. This is an old chart but this is still generally the plan for differentiating differences between penises: (It's hard to see,but the "Gnarled" shape is meant to look engorged and imperfect) Untitled.png It's a naming convention similar to what you see in D&D or dungeon crawlers. As you can see there's a lot of fantasy involved, but I will also maintain a more realistic version without extreme veins or penises as thick as arms. The last column for shape should hopefully be done with groovtama's new bone setup instead of the mesh itself, hopefully eliminating the need for multiple mesh types to allow for full armor/accessory compatibility between shapes. There will be other differences between the penises like the glans or scrotum shape, but the item names would just become so long and bloated that they are best left unnamed. Well, that looks absolutely awesome! I have a question if you don't mind: will there still be room for further ingame customization through a race menu plugin?
Illuminati Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 Seriously can't wait until HDT Shlongs. Can't wait for Futa version as well. Keep it up man.
ZigNewton Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 Despite knowing full well why I'm excited about this, my level of said excitement for this made me double-check my sexuality. I am freaking psyched that you're back and reclaiming the helm of SS SOS, I hope it's as modular as you intend for it to be! Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be over here cheering you on with my pelvis.
uman2631 Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 one thing that I really wish would happen here would be "jiggly" schlongs. We have jiggly boobs with movement, but dammit, no matter how fast I run, my schlong barely moves! I wanna see those schlongs flop around like they really would!
Phygnos Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 Well, that looks absolutely awesome! I have a question if you don't mind: will there still be room for further ingame customization through a race menu plugin? Yes, but I've done exactly 0 research into that. There are enough RaceMenu add-ons already that mess with bones and such. I b3lsario should have some in his own SoS thread in the Downloads section. They seem simple enough (at least as it concerns simple size manipulation) so it'll come once the other stuff is done. one thing that I really wish would happen here would be "jiggly" schlongs. We have jiggly boobs with movement, but dammit, no matter how fast I run, my schlong barely moves! I wanna see those schlongs flop around like they really would! Yep, that's what the HDT thing does. I don't have the link offhand, but there are already some HDT files for it. The problem is that it cancels out SoS's own animations like for erections so it's a bit of a catch-22. As for progress report, I've at 3 penis textures and 3 scrotum textures along with the "base" and one anus. I'm thinking really hard on how to salvage this Slot system. The physics part makes it really complicated because meshes themselves need to switch in order to link to the path to HDT instead of SoS.
Jarka Ruus Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Well, that looks absolutely awesome! I have a question if you don't mind: will there still be room for further ingame customization through a race menu plugin? Yes, but I've done exactly 0 research into that. There are enough RaceMenu add-ons already that mess with bones and such. I b3lsario should have some in his own SoS thread in the Downloads section. They seem simple enough (at least as it concerns simple size manipulation) so it'll come once the other stuff is done. one thing that I really wish would happen here would be "jiggly" schlongs. We have jiggly boobs with movement, but dammit, no matter how fast I run, my schlong barely moves! I wanna see those schlongs flop around like they really would! Yep, that's what the HDT thing does. I don't have the link offhand, but there are already some HDT files for it. The problem is that it cancels out SoS's own animations like for erections so it's a bit of a catch-22. As for progress report, I've at 3 penis textures and 3 scrotum textures along with the "base" and one anus. I'm thinking really hard on how to salvage this Slot system. The physics part makes it really complicated because meshes themselves need to switch in order to link to the path to HDT instead of SoS. I do use b3lisario racemenu plugin, that's why I was asking. Nice to know it's planned. About adding hdt, I did use the hdt sos add-on and it looked nice, though it is very glitchy and in the end the extra-effort to implement it might not be worthy.
ZigNewton Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I had an idea, you probably thought of this already. You know how when a Draugr Deathlord flings you across the room and the game switches you into ragdoll mode for a short time before your animations kick back in? Is there a way to make a similar "switch" like that but only for the schlong? Like the schlong would just be in "ragdoll" mode until erection behaviors are called in? I'm personally not too concerned about having floppy schlong physics, but it was just a thought. Even if it's possible, it sounds like it would be thick on scripts...
b00marrows Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Ah yes, this could be yet another step for better sex in skyrim. here's to HDT penetration! Also the modular nature will allow for a lovely futanari penis for all body's *shed's tear of joy*
uman2631 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 can anyone give a link to the already existing hdt sos that was mentioned a few posts ago?
Muppit Show Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Any news on the next update ? Just wanted to see how's your progress and status is all
Jarka Ruus Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 can anyone give a link to the already existing hdt sos that was mentioned a few posts ago? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/20211-sos-schlong-for-females-unp/page-29?do=findComment&comment=686419
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