Skull Tyrant Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 ok i got the bell thing straightened out, i have some belly jiggle now, but i still dont get the bulge, im not sure what im missing. The bulge happens when you link hdtm.xml to male bodies using SOS. they are though im using male bodies that were posted here on the thread and they have the havok path on them.
blabba Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 they are though im using male bodies that were posted here on the thread and they have the havok path on them. Weird, double check your xml's then and make sure the male variant has SOS bones with collision capsules. And make a note of what layer they are on.Make sure that layer is the same layer the belly on female is on. (Or make sure the SOS layer is on a lower layer number)
Skull Tyrant Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 they are though im using male bodies that were posted here on the thread and they have the havok path on them. Weird, double check your xml's then and make sure the male variant has SOS bones with collision capsules. And make a note of what layer they are on.Make sure that layer is the same layer the belly on female is on. (Or make sure the SOS layer is on a lower layer number) im sorry i have no idea what you mean,
crimsondarkness Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Now go to block details line 4, String Data and click the txt icon. Enter the path where you installed ledo's xml. (eg Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml) [Optionally you can link it to hdtdefaultBBP.xml instead of hdt.xml.] Okay, probably a dum question but when I go to line 4 on the Nistringextradata Block details all that is shown is A update logo no txt icon and can not change or enter anything. Have I gone wrong somewhere. IGNORE I used Nistringsextradata with a s not Nistringextradata with no s.
Cymri Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 they are though im using male bodies that were posted here on the thread and they have the havok path on them. Weird, double check your xml's then and make sure the male variant has SOS bones with collision capsules. And make a note of what layer they are on.Make sure that layer is the same layer the belly on female is on. (Or make sure the SOS layer is on a lower layer number) I'm havin the same deal as SkullTyrant: jiggle jiggle! but no bulge, Got SOS malehands line 4 -> hdtm.xml, and tried femalehead -> hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP, or -> hdt.xml, or bod to either, OR Havok object, OR Havok obj + hdt links on head and/orrrr bod. . . Even tried 7Base HDT bod from the provided nifs in the HDT WW links. . Still nvr get actual bulge, just a little of jiggle, or a LOT (look at it gooooo!) of jiggle, or no even jiggle at all sometimes (that's kinda random; sometimes it just stops jigglin for no reason, then starts heavy again). Sometimes it looks like a little bulge, but then see it rly is just heavy jiggle or the way bod is bent. Is there an other thing can use besides JFF to change the XMPSE belly node name you mentioned, since we have x64 C++ here and can't install the x86 version JFF needs? Have nvr got preggo belly to work either, after a lot of trying. Butterfly TBBP and orig used CHSBHC but went to CBBE straight up to try to get HDT colliion.
blabba Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 im sorry i have no idea what you mean, I can't really explain it too well right now I guess. I'll try finishing my hdt guides and see if that helps, but that might take awhile as I have other stuff to do. I'm havin the same deal as SkullTyrant: jiggle jiggle! but no bulge, Got SOS malehands line 4 -> hdtm.xml, and tried femalehead -> hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP, or -> hdt.xml, or bod to either, OR Havok object, OR Havok obj + hdt links on head and/orrrr bod. . . Even tried 7Base HDT bod from the provided nifs in the HDT WW links. . Still nvr get actual bulge, just a little of jiggle, or a LOT (look at it gooooo!) of jiggle, or no even jiggle at all sometimes (that's kinda random; sometimes it just stops jigglin for no reason, then starts heavy again). Sometimes it looks like a little bulge, but then see it rly is just heavy jiggle or the way bod is bent. Is there an other thing can use besides JFF to change the XMPSE belly node name you mentioned, since we have x64 C++ here and can't install the x86 version JFF needs? Have nvr got preggo belly to work either, after a lot of trying. Butterfly TBBP and orig used CHSBHC but went to CBBE straight up to try to get HDT colliion. Any text editor works. And you should be able to install x86 on a 64 bit computer. Otherwise JFF wouldn't work on my own computer .
Cymri Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Any text editor works. And you should be able to install x86 on a 64 bit computer. Otherwise JFF wouldn't work on my own computer . TY on the text editor. Will look at that! I was told we have x64 C++ already installed for something that it would be baaaad to remove on our PC (IDK what it is myself) so he did not think it was a good idea to try to put x86 in too, but we will look at it. TY!
Skull Tyrant Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 ok i finally got it to work but im having a hard time finding a hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml file that works and doesnt cause belly spasms and the breasts to bounce like jello. can anyone point me to a good one?
bigglebojiggle Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I cant get this to work, I fixed some problems but im not seeing any bulging...I also tried to do this with some creatures following the same format as the SOS male bodies, cant tell if its working Im using dream girl body (with tbbp meshes), just switched out to hdt stable 10-24 (havent used it yet), also using [skeleton]XP32 Maximum Skeleton [X.93ar50]
bigglebojiggle Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Screw it, you have to be some PhD Astrological Physicist to make this crap work
bigglebojiggle Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 1.) Firstly, install the latest SKSE if you have not done so already. Don't forget to install SexLab and run FNIS (and all the other basic sex mods you prefer, like SL Matchmaker). Done, always had SKSE 2.) Then install HDT Physics Extension for Skyrim v12-29 (this is done by pasting the hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll and hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml into your Skyrim/data/SKSE/plugins directory). Also install the hdt.xml and hdtm.xml into the directory. Done (although the closest to success Ive had was with HDT All In One 14.28 version (Edit 4 by Daie) so thats what Im using) 3.) Download and install the HDT Body Customized Bounce Kit. It contains a modified hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml, it goes into the same Skyrim/data/SKSE/plugins directory, when prompted to overwrite, say yes. Tried it and it didnt work, but the HDT package I use has belly support so I would assume this is unnecessary 4.) Install XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended. Remember to select the option for the HDT enabled skeleton. You do not need to delete the skeleton.hkx file in this version in order to get HDT physics to work. Done, got the one from here on loverslab 5.) Install SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim. This is a fairly straightforwards install. Pick any body type and schong as you please. Done, I play as Futas a lot so I leave this on 6.) Install HDT body. I've installed the HDT 7Base Bombshell BETAv4 version in the downloads section. I am not sure about UNP, CBBE etc... bodies. Not sure what the HDT body is, last time I downloaded one it was a hdt.xml and a hdtm.xml file for the HDT folder, Im using Dream Girl (a unp body) that has been updated to tbbp 7.) Now you have to enable HDT collisions on the HDT 7Base body. There is an in depth tutorial here. Done 8.) You now also have to enable collisions in the SOS bodies. open malebody_0.nif and malebody_1.nif and follow the exact same steps in part 7. The difference here is that you link the nif files with hdtm.xml and NOT hdt.xml. (The hdtm.xml files is in the same directory as the hdt.xml file.) Done (they do mean .nif files from the meshes folder right?) So yeah, Im not sure what all Ive done wrong
Cymri Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 In Groovtama's Alpha XPMSE skeleton, the HDT pre-belly node has had a name change to HDT Belly (or something like that) so AFAIK, no current belly enabled hdt.xml's has updated to the new name yet. It's an easy fix though, just use JFF to change "Pre-belly" to whatever the new name is and it should be fine. . . . Weird, double check your xml's then and make sure the male variant has SOS bones with collision capsules. And make a note of what layer they are on.Make sure that layer is the same layer the belly on female is on. (Or make sure the SOS layer is on a lower layer number) OOF-Dah! Them XMLs is mighty busy! Did you mean lines like "<hkobject name="#0123" class="hkpCapsuleShape" signature="0xb58289ff">" ? for da hdtm.xml for male stuff? "<hkparam name="name">NPC PreBelly</hkparam>" (in XPMSE fem skel) "NPC PreBelly Belly" in hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP. So name is correct? HDT.xml had no belly listed, BTW. Did a Find and no "Belly" came up at all. Looked at fem skelly in NifScope. Does it matter that XMPSE's "NPC PreBelly (611)" Collision Object line Ref<NiColliisonObject> has Value "None"? What collision object should I be looking fer in male skelly or HDTM.xml? Sry. Wee bit n00b here.
kenrio19 Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Man was this mod hard to make it work properly, took me like 4 hours or something. And for those who asked if it was possible to do it with an unpb body mesh yes it's possible I'm currently using it, you just need b3lisario's pregnant meshes for the belly bone. BTW people having belly issues, mine got solved by installing lastest stable hdt. Also femalehead.nif only worked with Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml And if everything seems fine and you don't see the belly bulge try position the D with PageUp and PageDown, only works correctly if it's well positioned. Cheers.
Kbyf Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 will it work in the future with futy \ female - female?
spartan40 Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Sorry if this has been asked; but does anyone think that we could apply the same method of "attaching" a collision XML file to a creature "feature" and cause similar "collisions" between creature and female?
creaps Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Has anyone got it working for CBBE for belly bulging ? if so can you share your file's please ( or is this working only with certain mods if so can you pm them to me along with the files that work with it to get belly bulge)
Derpakiin Posted July 3, 2014 Author Posted July 3, 2014 6.) Install HDT body. I've installed the HDT 7Base Bombshell BETAv4 version in the downloads section. I am not sure about UNP, CBBE etc... bodies. Not sure what the HDT body is, last time I downloaded one it was a hdt.xml and a hdtm.xml file for the HDT folder, Im using Dream Girl (a unp body) that has been updated to tbbp So yeah, Im not sure what all Ive done wrong This is where you made the mistake, the HDT body is a sevenbase body mesh and not a hdtm.xml file. Unfortunately the belly distortions will only work with this HDT 7B version of the body and it will not work with your Dream Girl body.
Eikichi Onizuka Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 6.) Install HDT body. I've installed the HDT 7Base Bombshell BETAv4 version in the downloads section. I am not sure about UNP, CBBE etc... bodies. Not sure what the HDT body is, last time I downloaded one it was a hdt.xml and a hdtm.xml file for the HDT folder, Im using Dream Girl (a unp body) that has been updated to tbbp So yeah, Im not sure what all Ive done wrong This is where you made the mistake, the HDT body is a sevenbase body mesh and not a hdtm.xml file. Unfortunately the belly distortions will only work with this HDT 7B version of the body and it will not work with your Dream Girl body. For have the belly bulge ("distorsion") on different body/shape, use the UNP Bodyslide v0.5 and update HDT bodyslide v1.4. find all on LL forum here some screens with UNP Topmodel bodyshape Belly bulge work fine!
Cymri Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 Has anyone got it working for CBBE for belly bulging ? if so can you share your file's please ( or is this working only with certain mods if so can you pm them to me along with the files that work with it to get belly bulge) Don't think CBBE worx w/it. Nearly considering going to the modded new UNP bod w/the animated uknowwhat, as that should work w/it, but it means changing ALL my armor mods, which we combined into 1 huuuge mod. >.<
Derpakiin Posted July 9, 2014 Author Posted July 9, 2014 6.) Install HDT body. I've installed the HDT 7Base Bombshell BETAv4 version in the downloads section. I am not sure about UNP, CBBE etc... bodies. Not sure what the HDT body is, last time I downloaded one it was a hdt.xml and a hdtm.xml file for the HDT folder, Im using Dream Girl (a unp body) that has been updated to tbbp So yeah, Im not sure what all Ive done wrong This is where you made the mistake, the HDT body is a sevenbase body mesh and not a hdtm.xml file. Unfortunately the belly distortions will only work with this HDT 7B version of the body and it will not work with your Dream Girl body. For have the belly bulge ("distorsion") on different body/shape, use the UNP Bodyslide v0.5 and update HDT bodyslide v1.4. find all on LL forum here some screens with UNP Topmodel bodyshape 2014-06-12_00028.jpg 2014-06-12_00031.jpg 2014-06-16_00008.jpg Belly bulge work fine! I was meaning that bigglebojiggle used a default UNP mesh that didn't come with belly rigging. I don't know if other UNP bodies with belly rigs exist but I do know that the 7B HDT body in the downloads can support it. In any case, can you help provide a link to the belly-capable UNP body for bigglebojiggle to try?
Eikichi Onizuka Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 6.) Install HDT body. I've installed the HDT 7Base Bombshell BETAv4 version in the downloads section. I am not sure about UNP, CBBE etc... bodies. Not sure what the HDT body is, last time I downloaded one it was a hdt.xml and a hdtm.xml file for the HDT folder, Im using Dream Girl (a unp body) that has been updated to tbbp So yeah, Im not sure what all Ive done wrong This is where you made the mistake, the HDT body is a sevenbase body mesh and not a hdtm.xml file. Unfortunately the belly distortions will only work with this HDT 7B version of the body and it will not work with your Dream Girl body. For have the belly bulge ("distorsion") on different body/shape, use the UNP Bodyslide v0.5 and update HDT bodyslide v1.4. find all on LL forum here some screens with UNP Topmodel bodyshape 2014-06-12_00028.jpg 2014-06-12_00031.jpg 2014-06-16_00008.jpg Belly bulge work fine! I was meaning that bigglebojiggle used a default UNP mesh that didn't come with belly rigging. I don't know if other UNP bodies with belly rigs exist but I do know that the 7B HDT body in the downloads can support it. In any case, can you help provide a link to the belly-capable UNP body for bigglebojiggle to try? is very easy to have other body with belly bounce and belly bulge, not only 7base.. Install this "HDT BodySlide v1.4" http://www.loverslab.com/files/download/658-hdt-body/ Intall and use UNP bodyslide v0.5 http://www.loverslab.com/topic/11468-bodyslide-unp-v04-30-sliders/?do=findComment&comment=254938 Select a sliderset UNP HDT body and UNPB preset or UNP Topmodel prest, click on Build this Body Done! Ps: for HDT PE I use the Daiemonic Edit5 for 14-28, you find the link on my signature
CharlieFoxxx Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 I have a question is there a way to get this to work with creatures as well?
Txa Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 I have a question, I've followed each step so far perfectly, but when it comes to step 7, I don't have a femalehead.nif in my folders, would a different mod change this? Edit: Nvm found my problem after a couple of hours of trying to get this to work it finally does, however I did need to start a new character, nevertheless its working.
Derpakiin Posted July 20, 2014 Author Posted July 20, 2014 I have a question is there a way to get this to work with creatures as well? Indeed you can: I've managed to get Werewolf collisions to work thanks to help from TheOniNinja. I will attach my compiled files for you guys to test out. Please note that you must wear the HDT havok object (invisible armor) and this requires SOS to work. In order to find the HDT Havok object to wear, open the console and type 'help hdt' and add the code in for the item. Special thanks to Daiemonic's post here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27122-hdt-collisions-hair-physics-now-with-belly-support-updated-just-another-hdt-xml-file/ Download it here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16683090/temp/Skyrim/COMBINED%20PACK%20HDT%20werewolf%20collisions%207B%20SOS.rar
Eikichi Onizuka Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 Download it here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16683090/temp/Skyrim/COMBINED%20PACK%20HDT%20werewolf%20collisions%207B%20SOS.rar Not work well with new HDT PE 14.28 By Daiemonic, here.. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27122-hdt-collisions-hair-physics-now-with-belly-support-updated-just-another-hdt-xml-file/page-1
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