Nexusmods Changing Policies on Adult Content

[Count Chocula]

7 minutes ago, shadowlord445 said:

Man, some of those people in the nexus thread need to chill the fuck out...

Good thing no one here does. Or is that sarcasm, or irony, or whatever? I hope it's sarcasm (or irony or whatever).

Edited July 1, 2025 by chocula

[Count Chocula]

6 minutes ago, HighwayDio said:

I shouldn't have to join a multitude of servers just to get a few mods.

I noted before that this started long ago when Nexusmods implemented their policy of "owning" the mods posted. How many mods now have their latest versions on a discord server? I don't know, but it's more than zero. Maybe at some point discord will start charging money for any level of access that allows posting more than just text messages.

[Blehbreh]

I'm permanently removing my mods from nexus.

[Count Chocula]

23 minutes ago, Blehbreh said:

I'm permanently removing my mods from nexus.

How do you do that, given Nexusmods' policy about that very thing? Did they change their policy or something? Was it never as strict as people made it out to be? Because when you say "permanently delete" that does not sound like "archiving."

Edited July 1, 2025 by chocula

[Grey Cloud]

Man, the Americans over in the Nexus comments section have some weird ideas about the UK and its political situation. 

[belegost]

This isn't only about Nexus, folks. 

 

pornbiz.com has a whole article on the subject. What is means for them, the userbase and all porn websites in general.

[Count Chocula]

This makes total sense from pornbiz: "It [age verification] was never about children. It was always driven by anti-porn crusaders and control-obsessed ideologues."

[Grey Cloud]

There's a lot of disingenuous statements in that pornbiz article not to mention the ad hominem comments about politicians.

[Count Chocula]

Thus I quoted one tiny part that I thought made sense. Leaving out all the alarmist fulminating.

[Blehbreh]

2 hours ago, chocula said:

How do you do that, given Nexusmods' policy about that very thing? Did they change their policy or something? Was it never as strict as people made it out to be? Because when you say "permanently delete" that does not sound like "archiving."

 

 

[Count Chocula]

26 minutes ago, Blehbreh said:

stuff

So does that mean their policy of no deleting mods was never implemented in the way it supposedly was? Or that it was changed?  In any event, I am pretty sure that "deleted" mods are still there. Just not easily accessible outside of a Collection that uses them.

Edited July 2, 2025 by chocula

[Blehbreh]

9 minutes ago, chocula said:

So does that mean their policy of no deleting mods was never implemented in the way it supposedly was? Or that it was changed? Or that "Delete" does not really mean "delete?" I don't see an option that says "Archive." If "Delete" means "Archive," it's still there.

 

It tells you that it cant be undone and perhaps afterward it's archived. So many people have downloaded the mods that it doesn't really matter if they're archived to me at least, the only thing that matters is that users cannot get the file off of nexus anymore. Nexus can just have it in their history until their file storage servers are down; which may be sooner than later, but no users will be able to access it.

[yorpers]

7 hours ago, chocula said:

That started when Nexusmods implemented their "All  your mod are belong to us" policy.

I actually disagree partially. I think it started with DMCA strikes. Lots of it had to do with ports getting taken down from other game studios. That policy was absolutely a second nail in the coffin though.

[Count Chocula]

44 minutes ago, Blehbreh said:

 

It tells you that it cant be undone and perhaps afterward it's archived. So many people have downloaded the mods that it doesn't really matter if they're archived to me at least, the only thing that matters is that users cannot get the file off of nexus anymore. Nexus can just have it in their history until their file storage servers are down; which may be sooner than later, but no users will be able to access it.

This is something you've already thought of, but I'm going to say it anyway. Obviously you can do only as much as Nexusmods will allow if you want to remove a mod from it.

 

Even "deleted" mods can be downloaded if they have made it into a Way Back Machine archive.  Search for "downloading deleted Nexus mods" and you'll get detailed instructions.  But it's not something the casual user is going to get a handle on. 

[Count Chocula]

2 hours ago, yorpers said:

I actually disagree partially. I think it started with DMCA strikes. Lots of it had to do with ports getting taken down from other game studios. That policy was absolutely a second nail in the coffin though.

DMCA strikes have nothing to do with Nexusmods policies. I'm not a digital rights lawyer, but I believe an entity notified of a DMCA violation pretty much just has to comply. I could be  wrong, though. Maybe an entity can easily fight a DMCA takedown request.

 

EDIT: According to nolo.com: "As long as the takedown request follows rules defined by the DMCA, the ISP or website operator is obligated to remove the material and notify the alleged infringer of the removal (via a takedown notice) [my emphasis]." The poster of the content can fight the takedown, but it doesn't sounds like the operator of the service or site can. Which makes sense, because the operator of the service or site has no skin in the game. It's not their content, they're just hosting it. What do they care if it's taken down or not, as long as they are legally OK?

 

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/responding-dmca-takedown-notice.html

Edited July 2, 2025 by chocula

[Dark Spectre]

8 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Yeah. You could end up voting for some one who wants to protect children.

Or encroaching on people's rights.  Besides, isn't that the parents' responsibility?

[Count Chocula]

1 hour ago, Dark Spectre said:

Or encroaching on people's rights.  Besides, isn't that the parents' responsibility?

In some alternate reality.

[Blehbreh]

2 hours ago, chocula said:

This is something you've already thought of, but I'm going to say it anyway. Obviously you can do only as much as Nexusmods will allow if you want to remove a mod from it.

 

Even "deleted" mods can be downloaded if they have made it into a Way Back Machine archive.  Search for "downloading deleted Nexus mods" and you'll get detailed instructions.  But it's not something the casual user is going to get a handle on. 

 

As long as it keeps most people from having to submit a government ID to nexus in order to download one of my mods, because heavens know what they will be using that data for. Spoiler, it's not going to be to the benefit of the common man, because it never is.

[travelmedic]

2 hours ago, Blehbreh said:

but no users will be able to access it.

 

Not trying to be argumentative towards you @Blehbreh or give you a hard time, but how does that punish Nexus at all?  It only hurts the casual modder or someone who might be modding their game for the first time.

 

Right now there's no other website that's in a position to compete with Nexus.  Remember when Mod Sanctum was going to be the answer/Nexus killer when the whole ownership thing blew up?  I just checked the site right now and it's "down for maintenance."  They do have a Discord channel with a few big creators on there, but still nothing that's going to threaten Nexus as king of the hill.  Some of the other sites listed in this thread barely have a couple dozen mods uploaded.

 

As far as Discord or Patreon channels go, how do new users even find them?  Again, say what you will about Nexus, at least it's a centralized repository that's easy to find and search.

 

Mod hosting sites seem to be disappearing faster than they appear these days.  Something to consider for the people who just say "someone" needs to make a new site.  If it was that easy, "someone" would have already done it, or this investment group would have made their own instead of buying Nexus.

[Blehbreh]

19 minutes ago, travelmedic said:

but how does that punish Nexus at all?

 

I'm not trying to punish Nexus. I wouldn't want to punish them as they don't seem to have a choice in the matter. I just don't want to contribute to them anymore if they're going in this direction. Things like this make modding more complicated for both users and modders. They continue to push boundaries and even after this, something else will be implemented in the future that take more away from users and modders.

 

Perhaps one day there will be a competitor to Nexus, but it would only be after users and modders can no longer use Nexus to their benefit.

[RomeoZero]

Well considering that Nexus first hired SJW moderators, the modders, including me migrated all the mods to LL, then turned to DEI administration, the media posts migrated to LL, and now they are total NSFW ban stuff cause it hurt some UK muslim feelings under "EU laws" BS or something, giving Nexus ur ID data to get arrested by that thesis. I will see that Loverslab gonna grow REALY BIG, someone just contact Ashal to act quick, for hiring UI scripters and make LL UI the best of Nexusmods can offer to attract the internet masses. And despite the nexusmods veterans, LL veterans are still active and very much love the site and its crazy folks here 😏

Edited July 2, 2025 by RomeoZero

[belegost]

28 minutes ago, RomeoZero said:

hiring UI scripters

And you are, of course, the one that's going to cough up the money for it up front, right?

 

Several thousand dollars in fact. We want good scripters, to turn LL UI into the best of Nexusmods can offer to attract internet masses. Plus casual few hundred per month in order to cover the cost of increased traffic.

 

Right?

Edited July 2, 2025 by belegost

[travelmedic]

3 hours ago, Blehbreh said:

 

I'm not trying to punish Nexus. I wouldn't want to punish them as they don't seem to have a choice in the matter. I just don't want to contribute to them anymore if they're going in this direction. Things like this make modding more complicated for both users and modders. They continue to push boundaries and even after this, something else will be implemented in the future that take more away from users and modders.

 

Perhaps one day there will be a competitor to Nexus, but it would only be after users and modders can no longer use Nexus to their benefit.

 

I agree with you that Nexus doesn't seem to have a choice but to do something.

 

Where maybe we are on a different wavelength is any potential future competitors.  Any site that can rival Nexus is going to be subject to the same laws and regulations that Nexus is.  Taking mods off of Nexus and migrating them to NotTheNexus.com won't change much if NotTheNexus also has to have age verification.

 

In the meantime, removing mods doesn't even give people the option to decide if they're comfortable with age verification or not.  They are deprived of mods that they might enjoy with no recourse.

 

All of this is irrelevant though until we see what form this age verification is going to take.  For some sites on the internet right now, it's as simple as clicking a button attesting to the fact that you're at least 18 years of age, or you have to enter a (fake) birthdate that would make you at least 21 years old.  No government IDs involved.  Not saying whatever comes to Nexus will be that basic, but right now a lot of this talk is nothing but speculation.

[Miauzi]

Well - the "culture war" of the conservatives who live forever "in the past" is entering the next round.

 

Of course, it's not about, and never has been about, protecting children... that's just the argument that's been constantly upheld for ages - meant to cover up one's own "bigotry" and "sexual repression."

But it's precisely these bigoted and repressed people who are so easily influenced and steered in the desired direction precisely because of their unfulfilled sexuality... that's exactly what the three major religions of the book do... a "sexual" frustration quickly turns into a "general" frustration!

 

In the western part of Germany in the 1970s, young heterosexual couples were insulted by "older" people on the public street when they kissed. Next to it, in the newspaper and magazine sales stand, the naked women's breasts of serious political magazines were displayed... and the largest daily newspaper ("BILD") was actually purchased by 30% of buyers solely because of the "full-body nudes" on the back page!

 

That we have a graphical browser for the internet? I'm not the only one who thinks we have the porn industry to thank for it!

 

Since precisely this bigoted conservatism will increasingly lead to, for example, sex education no longer being taught in schools... but children are "naturally curious" - they will seek out "alternative" sources of information... and age restrictions have never been a serious obstacle.

But this mechanism has been known for as long as I've been on this planet at the age of 63... so the whole "child protection" thing is simply an abuse of children for a backward-looking political agenda.

 

And as for Nexus... well, "pirate sites" are becoming increasingly interesting again - because it's obviously easier to navigate to them than digging through "Patreon" or even "Discord"... especially since there's a language barrier for quite a few people whose native language is NOT "English."

 

The fact that the Nexus comment section is being massively used for hate attacks against mod authors... well, hardly anyone writing here seems to be aware of that... but many a good mod author has completely withdrawn from modding because of these constant attacks!

For me, that's much more tragic than a possible age check with a "personal document"!!

[Guest]

There is not one of the Son of a bitches writing and passing these laws that haven't been to Epstein's ranch, or any of a number of Sex Clubs/Parties to oogle, awe and be a pervert themselves. 

Only the Rich and Powerful are able to cover those actions up so they can cast the finger at everyone else and say Naughty, Naughty.