xboronx Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Yeah you win, I need to find an adjective that start with D then, not to long. (not Defeat, different mod.) I'm really bad with names. It's long, but what about delightful? Would be a nice word play, delightful dirty deeds, for the player/torturer they are indeed delightful, while from the slave side they are a cruel euphemism Hope your mannequin idea works, would be awesome for us players because i can't think of a solution that would require less micromanagement. You should include a dialogue option though where you can give prisoners special outfits and those should override the mannequin outfits. This way i could dress one or two especially liked or hated prisoners in a special way while the majority wears the standard outfit.
Pinute Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 If I read the previous posts correctly there will be a set of cuffs (or something) that if I can somehow get onto an npc (pickpocket, etc.) that will add them to the enslaved group? Wonderful if so!
zanith86 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Suggestions:- Toggling immortality on slaves/prisoners. I.E. making them human training dummies.- Training option for slaves/prisoners. - Preferably for pleasure; combat; domestic and professions; loyalty/submissiveness; love/respect; hatred/fear- Setting routines/sandboxes for prisoners (I.E. cooks make food when you give them ingredients, tailors make clothes, smiths make collars)- Bondage room using Oli3d's framework.- Feeding room for vampires/werewolves - Bathing/lounging area- A method to name slaves if possible (I think this would be pretty hard) - Different sales prices for slaves/prisoners. I would assume argonians would be the least desirable of slaves, while the most expensive would be either dark elves or high elves (as both are in lore very hard to enslave and very, very proud).- Marking slaves with your ownership. (This I think would be very hard. Maybe a choice between insignias or a choice between a letter?)- Execution room? (Like a pitfall that instantly kills them when you command them to wait there or a wall of spikes flies in and kills them and gets rid of their bodies quickly)- A harem room? Can order the entire room to engage in sexual activity and your character can sit and watch or participate?- Arena option of death by sex? (I.E. whoever orgasms first dies / Frostfall hypothermia style death of both / etc.)- Having an option of inviting high ranking members of society to visit or buy prisoners? (Example: Give Jarls letters and after 7 days they show up in dungeon as a basic companion?)Sorry if some of these have been mentioned or planned. I did try to go through this thread and figure out what has and has not been said. This is a very promising mod and I look forward to it.
Goubo Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 IMHO dress/undress "stuff" is a weak spot in Defeat and it seems it'll be "DD's" too. You see, moded clothing/armors, like UNP Mash Up, uses many slots and as a result Defeat controled "actions" is always played partially dressed (basicly i myself must take of panties, it's litle unimmersive). Yes, if you have 50 slaves your style is MUCH better and easier for players, but still IMHO it's better to leave more freedom to users and set personal approach to each slave (luxury style). Butt it'll be even better if you leave your mannequin and shelf without slot managment. But anyway, this is your mod and i dont think this will be so annoying as it's in Defeat, in wich we all happily playing But I don't get it, in Defeat only basic slot for clothes are supported (for the animation pre-rape), why don't you enable the rest of the clothing slot to undress directly in SL framework? you don't have to undress yourself, why would I rewrite the same script as Ashal for the undressing? And for this mod this will be a basic general clothing for jobs, I could include the most used slot in the system if you wish (Don't know which ones though) I'll include an option to trade with any hideout npcs anyway. Suggestions: - Toggling immortality on slaves/prisoners. I.E. making them human training dummies. - Training option for slaves/prisoners. - Preferably for pleasure; combat; domestic and professions; loyalty/submissiveness; love/respect; hatred/fear - Setting routines/sandboxes for prisoners (I.E. cooks make food when you give them ingredients, tailors make clothes, smiths make collars) - Bondage room using Oli3d's framework. - Feeding room for vampires/werewolves - Bathing/lounging area - A method to name slaves if possible (I think this would be pretty hard) - Different sales prices for slaves/prisoners. I would assume argonians would be the least desirable of slaves, while the most expensive would be either dark elves or high elves (as both are in lore very hard to enslave and very, very proud). - Marking slaves with your ownership. (This I think would be very hard. Maybe a choice between insignias or a choice between a letter?) - Execution room? (Like a pitfall that instantly kills them when you command them to wait there or a wall of spikes flies in and kills them and gets rid of their bodies quickly) - A harem room? Can order the entire room to engage in sexual activity and your character can sit and watch or participate? - Arena option of death by sex? (I.E. whoever orgasms first dies / Frostfall hypothermia style death of both / etc.) - Having an option of inviting high ranking members of society to visit or buy prisoners? (Example: Give Jarls letters and after 7 days they show up in dungeon as a basic companion?) Sorry if some of these have been mentioned or planned. I did try to go through this thread and figure out what has and has not been said. This is a very promising mod and I look forward to it. Most of it is planned actually, damn that amount of work. If I read the previous posts correctly there will be a set of cuffs (or something) that if I can somehow get onto an npc (pickpocket, etc.) that will add them to the enslaved group? Wonderful if so! Yeah, I want to make multiple way for capturing an npc.
Tensu_Makadi Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 - Arena option of death by sex? (I.E. whoever orgasms first dies / Frostfall hypothermia style death of both / etc.) Now see this idea sounds like it could be fun/funny but impossible to implement with the current sexlab framework and plugins out there if I'm not mistaken. Also the punishment just sounds like a horrible idea maybe loser get sent to some sort of torture chamber. With some mod that add in some truly interesting means of torturing npc with some sort of noticeable effect, other then what I have seen in other mods and with the assassins guilds torture victims where all is done is just bashing on the helpless victim, this could be very fun for sadist but again I'm pretty sure this is impossible as at best its just hey lets use slave torture victim A as a punching bag, slave torture victim B as an archery target, oh and hey lets test our new blade on slave torture victim C. Meh boring now if it can be implemented I'd rather have something like hey lets take Vampire Slave torture victim and tie them up under this covered grate and during the day remove the cover and hear them cry and beg for mercy as the sun bares down on them, and lets take enslaved former "Jarl and High Queen" Elisif and strap her water wheel and hear her beg for forgiveness, oh and can't forget former "Jarl" Ulfric Stormcloack lets just go ahead and put him in this iron maiden and slowly bleed out.... ah screw it him we can put to the guillotine for all I care I have little desire to keep men alive. Oh and yes I know I kept saying hear them beg and while this could kind of be done with voice clips already in the game to a point I'm thinking more like just text or something that you can "hear/read" kind of like I get with bandits when and can see their little talking to themselves dialog before I actually hear them as I'm sneaking up behind them to slit their throats. Summing it up again... -um yea I'm just evil and sadistic at times and if you feel like reading that and adding any of it in your probably a monster and all the little electronic data people (think of poor Bob, Dot, and Enzo, if you get that reference congrats!) in my computer are going to despise you as I torture them all day long
zanith86 Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 I don't know if you've seen this? I think it might help you with the markings and branding of your prisoners/slaves.http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25398-slavetats/
Aethyri Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 I know this has to already have been said or at least thought once or twice, but every single time I see this thread I think of this and sing it in my head. Dirty Deeds.
Regallag the Perv Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 I know this has to already have been said or at least thought once or twice, but every single time I see this thread I think of this and sing it in my head. Dirty Deeds. Yeah, I think the same thing. What about using it for a name? Diry Deed Done Dirt Cheap, DDDDC for short. Or, even shorter, 4DC.
DonQuiWho Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 > Goubo A quick request, if it's practicable without undue extra work? Any chance that you could put in an adjoining, largish, EMPTY room - the decor can match the rest of what you have planned to keep it as simple as possible - one which we could furnish ourselves with oli3d's working furniture, when his mod is fully up and running? One of the rooms from the existing Hideout, , like the one with the cupboards would do, as long as the floorspace were clear. Would us the chance for a little bit of personalised RP creativity.... Here's hoping....
Seraphim's Call Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Iike the idea. I also second having your char be imprisoned there. I read someone mentioned the thing implementing beastiality. Wondering what animals besides dogs and horses would be added? Would he interesting to have spiders or even Chaurus there. Hell, possibly add in Daedra and werewolves
xboronx Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 I read someone mentioned the thing implementing beastiality. Wondering what animals besides dogs and horses would be added? Would he interesting to have spiders or even Chaurus there. Hell, possibly add in Daedra and werewolves Don't forget my beloved sabre cats They will be used as punishment if my slaves refuse to become proper catgirls .
dje34 Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Cela m'a l'air pas mal du tout ! J'attends la sortie pour donner mon opinion. Seems not bad at all to me ! Waiting for the release to give my opinion.
Nayrbefeek Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Iike the idea. I also second having your char be imprisoned there. I read someone mentioned the thing implementing beastiality. Wondering what animals besides dogs and horses would be added? Would he interesting to have spiders or even Chaurus there. Hell, possibly add in Daedra and werewolves Maybe link it with estrus chaurus?
Lucky7 Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Will there be a way to mark certain NPC as "off limits" to the guards and slaves? I don't want to go to the trouble of killing half my guards because I found them sleeping with my fave NPC.
Goubo Posted January 20, 2014 Author Posted January 20, 2014 Will there be a way to mark certain NPC as "off limits" to the guards and slaves? I don't want to go to the trouble of killing half my guards because I found them sleeping with my fave NPC. Sure, should be easy to add.
nordwhore Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Just an idea, but how about a system where a female player becoming a successful slaver starts to inspire jealousy in her guards/rivals. 'We dominate these whores all day every day why do we have to take orders from one?' sort of thing and eventually it leads to a rebellion/invasion with the goal of turning the female slaver into a slave. Then you either have to escape and start again (perhaps pursued by your former lackeys who overthrew you/switched sides) or retake your old operation by showing them who's boss.
Goubo Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 Will need to into account every kind of NPC that is currently in the hideout as guard, this is a LOT of work, or I could introduce a recruit system where you can recruit generic underpaid thugs that have a chance of rebellion, I'll see that aspect when all the basics of the mod are done. The idea is interesting though, the guard that success to enslave the player could take the lead until the player escape and kill him, I'm currently doing some player as slave quest for Defeat so I can see it happen.
xboronx Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I like the idea of guard rebellion very much, but i also understand it is lot of work. Some suggestions on that idea nontheless: -Since the guards get salaries you might include 2 or 3 payment levels: low, standard, generous. They modify the rebellion chance, +10% for low, 0 for standard, -10 for generous If you can't pay your guards salaries, lets assume checked weekly, they get +15% rebellion chance for each unpaid salary until they get paid -special guards which can't rebel because they can't get corrupted, but are difficult to obtain. A good example would be dwemer machines, they will be only loyal to you, but have the disadvantage that they are not very useful for slave training/torture
nordwhore Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Will need to into account every kind of NPC that is currently in the hideout as guard, this is a LOT of work, or I could introduce a recruit system where you can recruit generic underpaid thugs that have a chance of rebellion, I'll see that aspect when all the basics of the mod are done. The idea is interesting though, the guard that success to enslave the player could take the lead until the player escape and kill him, I'm currently doing some player as slave quest for Defeat so I can see it happen. Thanks for considering it. It would be great for people (like me) who roleplay bad female characters, getting our comeuppance every now and then. If the guard rebellion path is too much work, what about focusing on a rival slaver? He could even mention having some of your guards on side but it's just a dialogue thing? Your operation gets attacked by rivals periodically and if you lose you get enslaved. Then perhaps you have to bide your time doing slavey things until you can escape and take back your operation? Edit: Actually it sounds like it could mesh rather well with what you plan for defeat. If you just have Dirty Deeds then you can become a slaver,get overthrown and enslaved maybe. But with Defeat you could be defeated, enslaved, escape and come back and take over the operation.
doan77 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Why not beast guard ? Like troll/ werwolf/ vampire /draugr /falmer. I think falmer could make a Lore friendly slaver faction.
rerun1983 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 This sounds like a good concept. If you're doing a player as slave quest, could you perhaps do the main PC taking over a pre-existing guild - perhaps a small one? You could either kill or enslave the existing master/mistress themselves. Also, as doan77 suggested, would you include using them as feeding slaves for vampires, or chewtoys (and so forth) for werewolves? You could turn it into a den for your own pack of either as guards...it's making me think of some mods where you can infect others with your type. More to chew on (if you'll pardon the pun)
Scow2 Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Will there be a way to have sex not matter?I prefer a blend of female and male guards, and prefer male dancers to females. Why must only straight males be pleased?
Zalzany Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 This is so what I was looking for skyrim. It bests anything else I have seen granted only thing comparable is the slavers mod for New Vegas where you actually have a camp you run, and that is in alpha for the second more bad ass version. Can't wait to see this one release.
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